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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    look at his last picture, so fake

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    3 more days. Conservatives are ahead in the poll currently. Liberals can win this if NDP voters switch and vote Liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    All religious headgears and symbols. Their province, their rules. Those rules were brought in by elected people.
    Yeah but debate and protests are part of democracy too, so people should protest who don’t agree with it, similar to how Unions do across Canada against the elected govns..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    3 more days. Conservatives are ahead in the poll currently. Liberals can win this if NDP voters switch and vote Liberals.
    Liberal + NDP coalition is going to happen. This Election is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    How will lives change for Desi's, Muslims in the event of a conservative victory?
    Nothing, probably less Indian students from India will get accepted to work after coming as international students. Conservatives are now the centrist government. Also Scheer is more popular because he has family, kids, against abortion against LGBT and so desis support him. About 2 years ago he was apeearing on Rebel Media(border line Neo Nazi media). Lives of Desi and lives of Muslims are two different things. The Canadian muslims integrate very well compared to the British or elsewhere so it was never a problem. Also Muslim community has a big support from wait a minute..........the LGBTQ community which is superweird lol. It is confusing, at worst there will be less immigrants from India and Pakistan which is okay because I feel there are way too many immigrants coming from India and at once. There needs to be some regulation lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    Nothing, probably less Indian students from India will get accepted to work after coming as international students. Conservatives are now the centrist government. Also Scheer is more popular because he has family, kids, against abortion against LGBT and so desis support him. About 2 years ago he was apeearing on Rebel Media(border line Neo Nazi media). Lives of Desi and lives of Muslims are two different things. The Canadian muslims integrate very well compared to the British or elsewhere so it was never a problem. Also Muslim community has a big support from wait a minute..........the LGBTQ community which is superweird lol. It is confusing, at worst there will be less immigrants from India and Pakistan which is okay because I feel there are way too many immigrants coming from India and at once. There needs to be some regulation lol.
    You are correct. Scheer is quite centrist. It shouldn't be too big of a problem for Muslims and other minorities.

    Let's see what happens.
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    Supporters at a Conservative Party rally in Richmond Hill, ON chanted “Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!” after Conservative leader Andrew Scheer began talking about the Liberal Party and corruption.

    “When we form government, I will hold a judicial inquiry into his scandal to get to the bottom of what he’s done,” said Scheer, referring to Liberal leader Justin Trudeau and the SNC-Lavalin affair.

    The crowd started chanting “Lock him up!”

    Realizing what was happening, Scheer began to change the chant to “Vote him out!”

    “Well well let’s – we’re going to the get to the bottom of this scandal, we’re going to vote him out,” Scheer said. “Vote him out! Vote him out!”

    The crowd appeared to pick up the revised chant.

    Some Conservative supporters in the room later told a Global National reporter that hearing the ‘Lock him up!’ chant made them feel uncomfortable.

    The Conservative campaign told Global News that the Richmond Hill rally was the largest rally they’ve had so far in the campaign, with more than 2,000 people. Global News could not independently verify that estimate.

    Scheer’s campaign has long focused on accusing Liberal leader Justin Trudeau of ethical lapses. Earlier this week, on Wednesday, Scheer vowed to impose massive fines on politicians who break Canada’s ethics laws.

    The words from Saturday night’s Conservative rally are reminiscent of the “Lock her up!” chants that U.S. President Donald Trump supporters aimed at Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election, when Trump accused Clinton of destroying emails in a congressional probe.

    In December 2016, a “lock her up” chant was also directed at Alberta Premier Rachel Notley. At the time, several provincial and federal politicians denounced the chant as inappropriate.

    Recent polls have placed the Conservatives and Liberals in a close race.

    In response to a media request by Global News about the chant at Scheer’s rally, Liberal campaign spokesperson Zita Astravas said: “We are staying focused on electing a government that will make life more affordable, fight climate change, get guns off our streets and stop Conservative cuts.”

    When asked about the “lock him up” chant and its resemblance to the “lock her up” line that Trump supporters have chanted at Clinton, Scheer’s press secretary said in an email: “Mr. Scheer recognized the chant from a small number of attendees was inappropriate and quickly directed the crowd to chant ‘vote him out.’”
    Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/6056190/c...-him-up-chant/.



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    In about 3-4 hours, we should know who our next PM is.

    Results are coming in. 170 seats are needed for majority.

    Here are the latest results:

    Liberals - 10 seats.
    Conservatives - 2 seats.
    NDP - 1 seat.
    Last edited by sweep_shot; 22nd October 2019 at 05:17.



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    Lets see how this goes

    15 lib
    9 con
    1 ndp

    Dont want a colition between ndp and liberals.. libs already destroying the economy

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    Latest:

    Liberals: 24.
    Conservatives: 6.
    NDP: 1.
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    Liberals are going strong which is no surprise. Maybe Trudeau would win majority on its own and wouldn’t necessarily require coalition. But we will see how it goes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    Liberals are going strong which is no surprise. Maybe Trudeau would win majority on its own and wouldn’t necessarily require coalition. But we will see how it goes..
    Yup. So far so good for Liberals.

    I am a bit surprised that Conservatives did so poorly on eastern provinces.

    Here are the present situations:

    Liberals: 48.
    Conservatives: 26.
    Bloc: 8.
    NDP: 6.
    Green: 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Yup. So far so good for Liberals.

    I am a bit surprised that Conservatives did so poorly on eastern provinces.

    Here are the present situations:

    Liberals: 48.
    Conservatives: 26.
    Bloc: 8.
    NDP: 6.
    Green: 1.
    I’m more interested seeing how ON turns out.

    Conservative are dominant in prairie and west.

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    Liberals: 83.
    Conservatives: 54.
    Bloc: 14.
    NDP: 10.
    Green: 1.

    PPC got no seat so far which is good.



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    Liberals: 113.
    Conservatives: 83.
    Bloc: 18.
    NDP: 9.
    Green: 2.
    PPC: 0.

    Liberals are closing in. Can they finish well?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-fraz View Post
    Lets see how this goes

    15 lib
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    1 ndp

    Dont want a colition between ndp and liberals.. libs already destroying the economy
    how? economy is their strong point actually; there are more jobs now and unemployment rate has come down

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    Liberals: 137.
    Conservatives: 99.
    Bloc: 26.
    NDP: 19.
    Green: 1.
    PPC: 0.

    Only 33 more to go for Liberals to win this election.



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    Liberals surely can't lose this now?

    Liberals: 150.
    Conservatives: 118.
    Bloc: 35.
    NDP: 24.
    Green: 3.
    PPC: 0.



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    Maxime Bernier lost. DAMN

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Liberals surely can't lose this now?

    Liberals: 150.
    Conservatives: 118.
    Bloc: 35.
    NDP: 24.
    Green: 3.
    PPC: 0.
    Its a Minority govn..also NDP gotta whopping even in Ottawa , they have become even more negligible, kudos to Canada for not voting for freebies , NDP was upward till 2012 when they won 95, Mulcair is still the best but NDP chose to be radical left,

    Still BC to go so
    Lets see if they beat 51
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    So it’s official. Canada will have LIBERAL Govt.

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    Poll got it wrong (just like 2016 US election). They had Conservatives leading.

    Congratulations to Trudeau.



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    Scheer has more popular vote lol

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    Right-wing People's Party founder loses seat

    Maxime Bernier, leader and founder of the right-wing People's Party of Canada (PPC), has lost the Beauce, Québec, district he has held since 2006.

    He may be the only major party leader to lose his seat in this election. Canadian media report he has been ousted by Conservative Richard Lehoux.

    Bernie founded the PPC in 2018 after he lost the leadership of the Conservative Party to Andrew Scheer.

    He described his party as a grassroots "smart populism" movement.
    Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-50100810.



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    Since the Liberals won’t have an outright majority, will they govern as a minority or will they need to form a coalition?

    In the former scenario, won’t they need to rely on the opposition to not gang up and pass a vote of no confidence and force another election? Then again, given Canadians’ famed politeness, the opposition may consider it rude to do so.

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    So what does a Liberal govt albeit a minority Liberal government mean for Canadian Muslims, Canadian Desi's, regular Canadians?

    More taxes?

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    not a good election for Liberals; they are on track of losing 20 seats from previous elections; also they are in danger of losing the popular vote; Justin Trudeau has been lucky to still win this election

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    So, it’s official we will have Liberal minority Govt. As per stats minority government usually last 18-24 months. Million dollar question, will this new govt last 4 years or we will see early elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Since the Liberals won’t have an outright majority, will they govern as a minority or will they need to form a coalition?

    In the former scenario, won’t they need to rely on the opposition to not gang up and pass a vote of no confidence and force another election? Then again, given Canadians’ famed politeness, the opposition may consider it rude to do so.
    liberals have to make coalition with some party to survive either Bloc Quebec (french culture nationalists) or NDP (extreme left)

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    I don't like NDP. It is a far-left party.

    Bloc is good. Liberals should make coalition with them.



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    Desi girls are drooling over adam-van-koeverden, Milton always makes me laugh, this was gonna happen!

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    A bit of trivia I just remembered: Trudeau’s father, the famed ex-PM Pierre Trudeau, was arrested in Pakistan in 1948. He wasn’t even 30 then and was still twenty years from being PM. He had made the mistake of entering Pakistan from India without a valid visa.

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    158 and 121 now lol

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    Jane Philpott stand up for justice and lost; Canada no different than India / Pakistan in this regard lol. Lets see what the other woman Jody Wilson-Raybould does who also stand up for justice
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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    liberals have to make coalition with some party to survive either Bloc Quebec (french culture nationalists) or NDP (extreme left)
    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    I don't like NDP. It is a far-left party.

    Bloc is good. Liberals should make coalition with them.
    What makes the NDP “far” left? Genuinely left-wing, certainly, but people make them sound like the second coming of the Bolsheviks.

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    How is CTV saying Jagmeet is the winner of this election when the seats would be less than last results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    What makes the NDP “far” left? Genuinely left-wing, certainly, but people make them sound like the second coming of the Bolsheviks.
    NDP annoys me because they prolonged a strike when I was in college. It delayed my graduation by one month.

    NDP is way too pro-union. I am more of a centrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    NDP annoys me because they prolonged a strike when I was in college. It delayed my graduation by one month.

    NDP is way too pro-union. I am more of a centrist.
    Are you talking about Strike in colleges in mid 2012?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    Are you talking about Strike in colleges in mid 2012?
    Fall 2017.

    Many students had to retake the semester due to stupidity from NDP.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    NDP annoys me because they prolonged a strike when I was in college. It delayed my graduation by one month.

    NDP is way too pro-union. I am more of a centrist.
    Yes I agree with you. NDP are bunch of cry babies. If someone propose a bill that doesn’t suit their agenda they will throw tantrum. Even recently when Doug Ford introduced a bill, NDP started throwing tantrum and were actually escorted by officers.

    ‘My way or the highway‘ kinda attitude is what always makes me never vote for them.

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    Lisa Rait was so graceful in defeat, where is this attitude during pre election among conservatives.

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    I'm proud of my Canadian brothers for keeping Scheer out of the office. Hope Liberals form an alliance with the NDP. I really do feel bad for Jagmeet, I would've voted for NDP but Scheer is a clown and I didn't want to waste my vote.


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    "Doug Ford polling somewhere between pink eye and stomach flu."

    Hahahahahahaha


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    Great result for Canada, was actually expecting a conservative win. I'm surprised that Bernier guy lost his seat cause he seems very similar to Trump and I was expecting him to retain his seat based off his populist rhetoric especially in a province like Quebec which isn't the most accepting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    Great result for Canada, was actually expecting a conservative win. I'm surprised that Bernier guy lost his seat cause he seems very similar to Trump and I was expecting him to retain his seat based off his populist rhetoric especially in a province like Quebec which isn't the most accepting.
    His party did not win a single seat. 0 seats. Just take that in.


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul View Post
    His party did not win a single seat. 0 seats. Just take that in.
    That's surprising, I guess all the white nationalists just stuck with the conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    That's surprising, I guess all the white nationalists just stuck with the conservatives.
    Yep, I would've been angry had Scheer won. I'm actually so happy right now.
    Last edited by sweep_shot; 22nd October 2019 at 09:42.


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party has retained power but a narrow election win means he is forced to lead a minority government as prime minister.

    His party will claim the most seats in parliament but their second term will be much harder, relying on other parties to pass legislation.

    The Liberals are expected to claim 156 seats, 14 short of a majority.

    His centre-right Conservative rivals are heading for 122 seats, a marked increase from the 95 it held before.

    Monday night's results could be good news for the country's left-leaning New Democratic Party (NDP) and its leader Jagmeet Singh, who could be kingmaker.

    This federal election was seen as a referendum on Mr Trudeau, who endured a bumpy first term, tainted by scandal.

    "You did it my friends. Congratulations!" he told cheering supporters in Montreal.

    Turning to address those across the country who voted for him, he said: "Thank you for having faith in us to move our country in the right direction."

    And to those who did not back him, he promised his party would govern for everyone.

    His weakened grip on power is being seen as a rebuke of his record but the result is bitterly disappointing for Conservative leader Andrew Scheer.

    His party is expected to win the popular vote but failed to translate that support into seats.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50134640


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    Justin Trudeau survives his toughest scare of his political career - this was one election, that Conservative lost, more than Liberals won. A minority Liberal Govt. was expected, but I was expecting a nail biter finish, but Liberals actually has done better than expected.

    Justin Trudeau overturned a disaster of 2011 (Liberals won only 34 seats and for the first time since 1867, ended up as 3rd party in parliament) to a land slide win in 2015 to for a majority Govt. (184 seats - the highest positive swing in history), but this was his acid test - 2nd year syndrome. For last two years, Liberal Party was suffering from internal cracks, controversies and lost almost west Canada beyond Manitoba, but still they are in power only, and only because of GTA - their 50% (79 of their possible 157) seats are coming from Ontario, and an almost clean sweep within GTA. Probably, by now the voter base in GTA has shifted to more than half towards 1st & 2nd generation immigrants and only that has kept Liberals in power - I hope next Trudeau Govt. will remember this; they have been clean swept in mid-west - Alberta, Saskatchewan and lost grounds in BC, Quebec as well to BQ (Bloc Quebecois) - they are 2%+ behind Conservatives on popular vote count; because where they have been swept, it was land slide disaster.

    This was the golden chance for Conservatives, which they failed to capitalize and I expect a long stay for Liberals now - at least for next 2-3 terms and Liberals will form majority Govt. next time. Justin Trudeau will conduct a political suicide if negligence for their part, swings just about few percentage Asian origin votes in GTA towards Tories.

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    Tough luck Jaggi bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    how? economy is their strong point actually; there are more jobs now and unemployment rate has come down
    yes there are more people with minimum wage level jobs. the economy is **** have you seen the dollar? i dont vote based of immigration policies. liberal are ruining the education system by adding in sex studies at an adolescence age.

    fact is we need this pipeline built and need the one to go out east to offset the deficits we are producing Canadians per ratio are the one of the most in debt people in world.

    First we need to make money if want to achieve any of the Green goals. other wise we will have rising taxes and more debt. these taxes will affect the future generation as well as this debt. we need to utilize every natural resource we have to produce more capital and good paying jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-fraz View Post
    yes there are more people with minimum wage level jobs. the economy is **** have you seen the dollar? i dont vote based of immigration policies. liberal are ruining the education system by adding in sex studies at an adolescence age.

    fact is we need this pipeline built and need the one to go out east to offset the deficits we are producing Canadians per ratio are the one of the most in debt people in world.

    First we need to make money if want to achieve any of the Green goals. other wise we will have rising taxes and more debt. these taxes will affect the future generation as well as this debt. we need to utilize every natural resource we have to produce more capital and good paying jobs.
    Trudeau has been pretty vocal about support for pipeline even when grilled by Hasan Minhaj

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Trudeau has been pretty vocal about support for pipeline even when grilled by Hasan Minhaj
    hes had 4 years and nothing has been done... him being vocal and then virtue singling on the other end is whats screwing us over.

    he lost ties with the saudi, uae, america, etc..

    this guy is a joke internationally, no one takes him seriously.

    Mad Max shouldve won the con ticket and been the leader scheer is trash too

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    Face saving speech by Andrew Scheer, fact of the matter is he should be kicking himself for being unable to beat Trudeau who was at his most vulnerable with so many scandals in the last one year, the conservative party really messed this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-fraz View Post
    hes had 4 years and nothing has been done... him being vocal and then virtue singling on the other end is whats screwing us over.

    he lost ties with the saudi, uae, america, etc..

    this guy is a joke internationally, no one takes him seriously.

    Mad Max shouldve won the con ticket and been the leader scheer is trash too
    Its not that easy , every govn would had such issues moving forward, its democracy not sure what you are expecting.

    They have no issues with US as such , Saudi has issues with so many countries, problem is you are expecting Canada to behave like America and throw refugees or pick on its citizens and Canada has never done that whether it was India Khalistan issue, Lankan -Tamil issue or even when its Citizens are involved for example Saudi issue.

    Canada is not a strong country ,it goes more for no conflict neutral role..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Face saving speech by Andrew Scheer, fact of the matter is he should be kicking himself for being unable to beat Trudeau who was at his most vulnerable with so many scandals in the last one year, the conservative party really messed this up
    Yes , both the times when they made their campaign negative in 2015 and now Conservatives lost, they should be more Like Lisa Rait and they would had come near majority

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    Douggie lost Scheer the election, GTA basically flipped the bird at PC with the 905 going completely red

    A lot of people seem to think NDP lost seats because of being too Far-Left (they did well in BC and still held parts of Northern Ontario), but on the contrary if they had picked any other leader that did not wear a turban then they probably wouldn't have lost Quebec that badly. Quebec was not or ever will be ready to vote for a minority, not to mention the Blocs seemed to have had a charismatic leader which resonated well with the Quebec population

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Fall 2017.

    Many students had to retake the semester due to stupidity from NDP.
    That's why I call them the No Direction Party ....they were totally clueless when they were in govt for Alberta and Saskatchewan

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericBrand View Post
    Douggie lost Scheer the election, GTA basically flipped the bird at PC with the 905 going completely red

    A lot of people seem to think NDP lost seats because of being too Far-Left (they did well in BC and still held parts of Northern Ontario), but on the contrary if they had picked any other leader that did not wear a turban then they probably wouldn't have lost Quebec that badly. Quebec was not or ever will be ready to vote for a minority, not to mention the Blocs seemed to have had a charismatic leader which resonated well with the Quebec population
    This.

    GTA is the most superior region in Canada. You take GTA, you take Canada. I'm glad the con man Scheer was shown his real aukaat.
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    Would have been incredibly embarassing if Schreer had become Canada's PM. The man has zero leadership qualities.


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    If Andrew Scheer has any dignity he will resign. Only he could have managed to put Trudeau back into power.

    Middle and lower middle class families get ready to be punished by the Liberal and NDP alliance. The war against small business owners had already began and it will only intensify now. I hope the conservatives try to push through some of their agenda through legislation like 30 years mortgage annomunation, getting rid of the Mortgage stress test when you are renewing your mortgage which is a gift from the Liberal's to the banks, and tax free Parental and Maternity leave which would alleviate some of the pain that working families are going to endure.

    Also with the upcoming burial of Canada's energy sector, raising of the carbon tax and increasing the minimum wage to $15 Canada wide get ready for soaring cost of living and a violatile economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShahKhan007 View Post
    If Andrew Scheer has any dignity he will resign. Only he could have managed to put Trudeau back into power.

    Middle and lower middle class families get ready to be punished by the Liberal and NDP alliance. The war against small business owners had already began and it will only intensify now. I hope the conservatives try to push through some of their agenda through legislation like 30 years mortgage annomunation, getting rid of the Mortgage stress test when you are renewing your mortgage which is a gift from the Liberal's to the banks, and tax free Parental and Maternity leave which would alleviate some of the pain that working families are going to endure.

    Also with the upcoming burial of Canada's energy sector, raising of the carbon tax and increasing the minimum wage to $15 Canada wide get ready for soaring cost of living and a violatile economy.
    What's wrong with a livable wage? US$15 isn't even a livable wage according to most studies let alone CA$15 (US $11) that's lower than Massachusetts's minimum wage of US$12 despite Canada having a higher cost of living.

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    Trudeau survived because of a weak and ineffective Conservative leader. And desis love Trudeau and voted for him in large numbers. Desis mainly vote based on immigration policies. Canada is a vast country surrounded with different regional needs. I’m happy Trudeau was stopped by Blocs. Another free majority ride would have destroyed Canada beyond repair.

    Conservatives need a new leader - perhaps Peter MacKay, Lisa Raitt or Rona Ambrose. Scheer needs to go. I wanted to vote for Conservatives this time but Scheer never really appealed to anyone in Eastern Canada. He did a clean sweep in Prairies though somehow.

    Trudeau needs to go for sure in next election which may happen in two years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Trudeau survived because of a weak and ineffective Conservative leader. And desis love Trudeau and voted for him in large numbers. Desis mainly vote based on immigration policies. Canada is a vast country surrounded with different regional needs. I’m happy Trudeau was stopped by Blocs. Another free majority ride would have destroyed Canada beyond repair.

    Conservatives need a new leader - perhaps Peter MacKay, Lisa Raitt or Rona Ambrose. Scheer needs to go. I wanted to vote for Conservatives this time but Scheer never really appealed to anyone in Eastern Canada. He did a clean sweep in Prairies though somehow.

    Trudeau needs to go for sure in next election which may happen in two years time.
    I don't think immigration is the main issue - racism and closet white supremacists on the right are the issue. Also lets not forget that South Asians for the most part are not as wealthy or established as European-Canadians and are just as vulnerable to systematic discrimination as any other visible minority group. People usually support liberal political parties because they tend to be in favor of economic policies that benefit the poor and middle classes by taxing the rich and expanding the safety net so assuming they voted for immigration policies couldn't be farther from the truth, if that's how the conservatives think they lost the election and the brown vote well then this result isn't surprising at all. Maybe they need to better understand the needs of all voters rather than the white majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    I don't think immigration is the main issue - racism and closet white supremacists on the right are the issue. Also lets not forget that South Asians for the most part are not as wealthy or established as European-Canadians and are just as vulnerable to systematic discrimination as any other visible minority group. People usually support liberal political parties because they tend to be in favor of economic policies that benefit the poor and middle classes by taxing the rich and expanding the safety net so assuming they voted for immigration policies couldn't be farther from the truth, if that's how the conservatives think they lost the election and the brown vote well then this result isn't surprising at all. Maybe they need to better understand the needs of all voters rather than the white majority.
    I don’t understand why Conservatives are labelled as a right wing party. Its more of a Centre Right party. In 10 Harper years - a steady 250K people per year immigrated to Canada (mainly South Asians). How can you call that anti brown policies? Canada needs Conservatives federally and Liberals provincially.

    Trudeau has brought in extreme left policies which are destroying Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    I don't think immigration is the main issue - racism and closet white supremacists on the right are the issue. Also lets not forget that South Asians for the most part are not as wealthy or established as European-Canadians and are just as vulnerable to systematic discrimination as any other visible minority group. People usually support liberal political parties because they tend to be in favor of economic policies that benefit the poor and middle classes by taxing the rich and expanding the safety net so assuming they voted for immigration policies couldn't be farther from the truth, if that's how the conservatives think they lost the election and the brown vote well then this result isn't surprising at all. Maybe they need to better understand the needs of all voters rather than the white majority.
    I don’t understand why Conservatives are labelled as a right wing party. Its more of a Centre Right party. In 10 Harper years - a steady 250K people per year immigrated to Canada (mainly South Asians). How can you call that anti brown? Canada needs Conservatives federally and Liberals provincially. Conservatives believe in small governments and balanced budgets.

    Trudeau has brought in extreme left policies which are destroying Canada. He tweets out millions. Did you know he gave $12 million or so to Loblaws to buy new fridges? Trudeau has no plans no balance budgets which in the end will result in higher taxes and that will put public services on the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    I don’t understand why Conservatives are labelled as a right wing party. Its more of a Centre Right party. In 10 Harper years - a steady 250K people per year immigrated to Canada (mainly South Asians). How can you call that anti brown policies? Canada needs Conservatives federally and Liberals provincially.

    Trudeau has brought in extreme left policies which are destroying Canada.
    LOL Did you even read my comment? Like I said it even isn't about immigration, there many factors why minorities wouldn't vote for conservatives and it's mostly economic and social reasons.

    It's because that's how they describe themselves! LMAO, they're a right wing party, why does that surprise you? Or do you not understand how the left-right political spectrum works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    LOL Did you even read my comment? Like I said it even isn't about immigration, there many factors why minorities wouldn't vote for conservatives and it's mostly economic and social reasons - " vhy r they kaal rite-ving" It's because that's how they describe themselves! LMAO, they're a right wing party, why does that surprise you? Or do you not understand how the left-right political spectrum works?
    Do you live in Canada? I dont think you know what you are talking about.

    Conservatives are a Centre Right party.

    Canadian Conservatives believe in balanced budgets, small governments and fair taxes which result in good public services. If your spending is out of control like Liberals - it puts social services that you are talking about in real danger.

    I spent my 20s in a Conservative era and Canada did just fine. It was the only country which survived the 2008 financial debacle with ease. Our banking system didnt flop like other countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Trudeau survived because of a weak and ineffective Conservative leader. And desis love Trudeau and voted for him in large numbers. Desis mainly vote based on immigration policies. Canada is a vast country surrounded with different regional needs. I’m happy Trudeau was stopped by Blocs. Another free majority ride would have destroyed Canada beyond repair.

    Conservatives need a new leader - perhaps Peter MacKay, Lisa Raitt or Rona Ambrose. Scheer needs to go. I wanted to vote for Conservatives this time but Scheer never really appealed to anyone in Eastern Canada. He did a clean sweep in Prairies though somehow.

    Trudeau needs to go for sure in next election which may happen in two years time.
    Most people voting for the Conservatives had a "yes Schreer stinks but we want change" mindset and that's a horrible thing for any party to deal with. Even worse, Ford completely destroyed their image in Ontario and the results say it all when they got their bums handed to them in the GTA.

    The Conservatives have lost two elections due to poor leadership and that's their own fault. Harper's ridiculously divisive stands in 2015 and now Scheer's mediocrity.

    They need to figure things out or it's going to be another decade of losses.


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    Don't really understand the fear mongering of Trudeau destroying Canada.

    A real example of an area being destroyed is Ontario by our glorious Buck-a-Beer Premier and the idiots who voted for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    What's wrong with a livable wage? US$15 isn't even a livable wage according to most studies let alone CA$15 (US $11) that's lower than Massachusetts's minimum wage of US$12 despite Canada having a higher cost of living.
    $15 is really not a livable wage in major cities like Toronto and Vancouver and to some extent Montreal. A more meaningful approach would be following Germany's approach and creating Government funded trade schools where people can train to become electricians, crane operators, plumbers etc. The way the system is set up now is you have to know someone already in that trade who is willing to accept you as a apprentice which is a totally backward system.

    Also raising the minimum wage should be done gradually, a sudden jump from $11 to 15 and that too Nationwide is devastating to small business owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    That's why I call them the No Direction Party ....they were totally clueless when they were in govt for Alberta and Saskatchewan
    thats a great name for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Do you live in Canada? I dont think you know what you are talking about.

    Conservatives are a Centre Right party.

    Canadian Conservatives believe in balanced budgets, small governments and fair taxes which result in good public services. If your spending is out of control like Liberals - it puts social services that you are talking about in real danger.

    I spent my 20s in a Conservative era and Canada did just fine. It was the only country which survived the 2008 financial debacle with ease. Our banking system didnt flop like other countries.
    I am from Alberta the heart of Conservatives and the federal party is a bunch of white boys who think primarily of white people for their policies. They tolerate minorities as long as the minorities are under their thumb. I am no fan of left wing either but the right wing is the bigger danger to Muslims and minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Do you live in Canada? I dont think you know what you are talking about.

    Conservatives are a Centre Right party.

    Canadian Conservatives believe in balanced budgets, small governments and fair taxes which result in good public services. If your spending is out of control like Liberals - it puts social services that you are talking about in real danger.

    I spent my 20s in a Conservative era and Canada did just fine. It was the only country which survived the 2008 financial debacle with ease. Our banking system didnt flop like other countries.
    Banking system survived thanks to the strict measures implemented during the Liberal Chretien era. Even now the Cons are upset on the Liberal requirement of "stress test" for mortgage loans which prevents people from over leveraging on debt. Think about it. Liberals are trying to stop people from taking on more debt and the Conservatives are against it. Cons believe in few regulations and letting the free market figure it out which turned out great with the sub prime mortgage crisis of 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Do you live in Canada? I dont think you know what you are talking about.

    Conservatives are a Centre Right party.

    Canadian Conservatives believe in balanced budgets, small governments and fair taxes which result in good public services. If your spending is out of control like Liberals - it puts social services that you are talking about in real danger.

    I spent my 20s in a Conservative era and Canada did just fine. It was the only country which survived the 2008 financial debacle with ease. Our banking system didnt flop like other countries.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    LOL Did you even read my comment? Like I said it even isn't about immigration, there many factors why minorities wouldn't vote for conservatives and it's mostly economic and social reasons.

    It's because that's how they describe themselves! LMAO, they're a right wing party, why does that surprise you? Or do you not understand how the left-right political spectrum works?
    Many Canadian desis think they are safe from white supremacy because of their degrees and suburban homes so they want to vote for Cons for tax breaks on their small businesses and incomes. Harper showed his true colors against minorities and deep cuts in social programs. Doug Ford is another example.

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    Canadian PM Justin Trudeau has ruled out forming a coalition government, after his Liberal party lost seats in Monday's general election.

    The Liberals retained power but fell short of a majority.

    On Wednesday Mr Trudeau said he would be sitting down with other party leaders to discuss parliamentary support for his minority government.

    The prime minister said he remained committed to a controversial oil pipeline expansion project.

    The general election saw the Liberals' representation in the House of Commons reduced from 177 to 157 seats, 13 short of a majority.

    In his first public appearance since then, Mr Trudeau said he would be focusing his legislative efforts on issues like climate change and the cost of living - which many voters who supported other parties made clear they still cared about.

    The Liberal leader struck a conciliatory note, saying that many involved in the divisive election now "regret the tone" of that campaign.

    His Liberal party was completely shut out of two western Canadian provinces - Alberta and Saskatchewan - which nearly exclusively elected Conservative MPs.

    Voters there turned away from Mr Trudeau's party amid complaints that the region's interests are not represented in the capital, Ottawa, and growing talk of "western alienation" in Canada's oil-producing heartland.

    He took an initial step by confirming his government's commitment to the Trans Mountain oil pipeline expansion project, which has faced legal hurdles and opposition from environmental campaigners and some First Nations.

    The prime minister said he would seek to ensure that the region's interests are represented in his cabinet.

    Two Liberal ministers - Saskatchewan MP Ralph Goodale and Alberta MP Amerjeet Sohi - both lost their seats in the Conservative sweep of the Canadian prairies.

    A new cabinet will be sworn-in on 20 November.

    On Tuesday, Mr Trudeau's rivals said it would be up to the prime minister to ensure that parliament will work.

    But they issued few details on the demands they would place on the PM for their support.

    "We're not going to negotiate any of those things today, and we're certainly not going to negotiate any of those in the media," said NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, who could potentially become kingmaker in the House of Commons.

    Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, whose party won a greater share of the popular vote than the Liberals but fewer seats, said it was imperative that Mr Trudeau focused on national unity.

    "We have a divided country," he told journalists on Tuesday. "It is essential for Justin Trudeau to take this seriously, to try to find common ground."
    Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50157893.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    How is CTV saying Jagmeet is the winner of this election when the seats would be less than last results?
    Several days on Jagmeet Singh supporters are acting as if he's played a blinder here - yet his party lost 20 seats and only polled 16% of the national vote (the NDP's worst share of the vote for 15 years).

    Can any Canada based PP'ers help explain the hype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    Several days on Jagmeet Singh supporters are acting as if he's played a blinder here - yet his party lost 20 seats and only polled 16% of the national vote (the NDP's worst share of the vote for 15 years).

    Can any Canada based PP'ers help explain the hype?
    I was speaking to my friend as well and this is what is the conclusion: Even thought they had 90 some seats in 2011 they couldnt be in ruling govn, with 50s in 2015 same result but with 20 something they will be in the ruling govn lol.. so yeah parliamentary democracy there for you...

    I can only feel pity for Thomas Muclair ..


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