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    Is Trick-or-treating Haram/Halal?

    For those of you that are not familiar with Halloween, stop living under a rock Just kidding . No really, stop. No seriously, who doesn't know what Halloween is?

    Anyhoo, Halloween is a yearly celebration that occurs every October 31st, where kids (and or adults ) basically annoy the heck out of people's home and ask for candy, better known as trick or treat. Here in Canada, we've even got ourselves a little jingle: Trick-or treat, (smell my feet) give me something good to eat, not too big not too small, just the size of Montreal

    When I was just a little wittle boy, I used to always envy other kids/ and fellow classmates carrying garbage bags full of candies and chocolates while I was not permitted to go trick or treating (though I did go out a couple times without my parents knowing and hid the candies under my bed )

    Now you may ask why was I not allowed to trick or treat? Well, ever since I was a little boy, I used to go to this madrassah run by this Indian teacher, and we used to be his favorite pupils, not by choice . See, this Indian teacher, or Molana as I address him, was quite close to my family (still is) and my father and mother took his word for everything. Now, I do respect him, and he is very knowledgeable, but he would always tell us to NEVER go trick or treating.

    His reasoning? He felt that the act of trick-or treating was similar to that of begging or asking for food, and it is not pleasant in the eyes of Allah, as we have more than enough to provide for ourselves. Also, he said that it is not one of Islam's holidays/celebrations and so we shouldn't indulge in it. Fair enough, as a little boy, who was I to judge his reasoning and at the time, it felt pretty logical.

    As October 31st is tomorrow, I want to know from you fellow PPers, what is your take on Halloween, have you ever went trick-or-treating? Is it indeed haram?

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    Awh man, smiley's messed up the format. Oh well. Oh ya forgot to mention, kids also dress up in costume (a witch, batman lol, etc) while they trick or treat.


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    It depends on what you interpret it as and what your intention is.

    This is what Wikipedia describes it as (not the most reliable source I know lmao, but in a general sense):

    The eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the three-day observance of Allhallowtide, the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the faithful departed believers
    If you "celebrating" Halloween has to do with the above definition, then yes it can be haram as you are taking part in another religion indirectly when it compromises Islamic values. We don't have a day for remembrance for Sahaba (RA) nor even our own Prophet PBUH, so how can we and why should we engage in remembrance of Christian martyrs?

    Now of course, if your "celebration" of Halloween is nothing more than giving candy to kids or going to a costume party, then it is okay IMO as it's more to do with leisure than you doing something religious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Here in Canada, we've even got ourselves a little jingle: Trick-or treat, (smell my feet) give me something good to eat, not too big not too small, just the size of Montreal
    Replace Montreal with Donegal and you literally have the same one Irish kids use. And considering we invented Hallo'ween its safe to say we came up with it first. You owe us about 350 years of copyright infringement. Cash will do


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    Replace Montreal with Donegal and you literally have the same one Irish kids use. And considering we invented Hallo'ween its safe to say we came up with it first. You owe us about 350 years of copyright infringement. Cash will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    It depends on what you interpret it as and what your intention is.

    This is what Wikipedia describes it as (not the most reliable source I know lmao, but in a general sense):



    If you "celebrating" Halloween has to do with the above definition, then yes it can be haram as you are taking part in another religion indirectly when it compromises Islamic values. We don't have a day for remembrance for Sahaba (RA) nor even our own Prophet PBUH, so how can we and why should we engage in remembrance of Christian martyrs?

    Now of course, if your "celebration" of Halloween is nothing more than giving candy to kids or going to a costume party, then it is okay IMO as it's more to do with leisure than you doing something religious.



    Yeah, this is what I mean. Like all I want to know is whether going to people's homes and asking for candy,alone is haram or not?


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    Halaloween is by definition halal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post

    Yeah, this is what I mean. Like all I want to know is whether going to people's homes and asking for candy,alone is haram or not?
    It's too bad I can't edit my post, wanted to edit that 2nd para, but I'll say it here. It's a tricky question because as outsiders we don't know if engaging in giving candy is taking part in it as a religious sense or not, because you have to understand Halloween predates Christianity and has origins in pagan religions. So is giving candy and going to parties themed for this specific occasions ultimately showing support for those pagan religions? Because more or less this is a "festival of the dead", and as you know, we don't celebrate the dead at all in Islam.

    Here's what the Prophet PBUH said about us as Muslims taking part in customs of other religions:

    "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." [Abu Dawood]
    Having read that I guess it pretty much points us to not engaging in it if we want to avoid going on to that haram/makroo border altogether.

    Also, JusReign is all class, his humor is very underappreciated. Basically what desi moms do with eid money instead of candy.
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    Here's what I think about:

    How many times Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) celebrated it?

    And how many times Sahabas (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ) celebrated it?

    And what does the hadith says regarding going outside between Maghrib and Isha?

    Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) said devil eye is more in action at night. Do not go out After Maghrib prayer till Isha... Instead We dress up as a devil and go out. especially in non-Muslim states, we do not know the ingredients of candies our kids are going to receive..

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    Narrated by Al-Bukhaari (3280) and Muslim (2012).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    It's too bad I can't edit my post, wanted to edit that 2nd para, but I'll say it here. It's a tricky question because as outsiders we don't know if engaging in giving candy is taking part in it as a religious sense or not, because you have to understand Halloween predates Christianity and has origins in pagan religions. So is giving candy and going to parties themed for this specific occasions ultimately showing support for those pagan religions? Because more or less this is a "festival of the dead", and as you know, we don't celebrate the dead at all in Islam.

    Here's what the Prophet PBUH said about us as Muslims taking part in customs of other religions:



    Having read that I guess it pretty much points us to not engaging in it if we want to avoid going on to that haram/makroo border altogether.

    Also, JusReign is all class, his humor is very underappreciated. Basically what desi moms do with eid money instead of candy.
    Yeah, it's a pity that he only has 650k subs. Deserves waaay more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbhaz65 View Post
    Here's what I think about:

    How many times Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) celebrated it?

    And how many times Sahabas (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ) celebrated it?

    And what does the hadith says regarding going outside between Maghrib and Isha?

    Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) said devil eye is more in action at night. Do not go out After Maghrib prayer till Isha... Instead We dress up as a devil and go out. especially in non-Muslim states, we do not know the ingredients of candies our kids are going to receive..

    __________

    “When the wings of the night spread – or when evening comes – keep your children in, for the devils come out at that time. Then when part of the night has passed, let them go. And close the doors and mention the name of Allah, for the shaytaan (devil) does not open a closed door. And tie up your water skins and mention the name of Allah, and cover your vessels and mention the name of Allah, even if you only put something over them, and extinguish your lamps.”

    Narrated by Al-Bukhaari (3280) and Muslim (2012).
    Interesting. How about when teachers would give me candy on Halloween in class. Do I take them? Do I say no? Or do I take them and throw them out/hand to other kids later on ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Interesting. How about when teachers would give me candy on Halloween in class. Do I take them? Do I say no? Or do I take them and throw them out/hand to other kids later on ?
    Well, I guess you can take it then if they are offering you themselves.

    But I believe that the point of discussion was going trick-or-treating after the evening time, and asking for candies and stuff yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbhaz65 View Post
    Well, I guess you can take it then if they are offering you themselves.

    But I believe that the point of discussion was going trick-or-treating after the evening time, and asking for candies and stuff yourself.
    In any case, I'm too old to go trick-or-treat. What do you do when you have kids ringing your doorbells on Halloween?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    In any case, I'm too old to go trick-or-treat. What do you do when you have kids ringing your doorbells on Halloween?
    Best solution would be to not open the door .


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    So, your parents didn't allow you to ask for eidi either?


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    Quote Originally Posted by endymion248 View Post
    So, your parents didn't allow you to ask for eidi either?
    Actually no, if I'm being reaaaaally honest. Never have I ever asked ANYONE for Eidi. The only Eidi I would get was when someone close would offer me, to whom I couldn't say no, and when my parents would give me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Interesting. How about when teachers would give me candy on Halloween in class. Do I take them? Do I say no? Or do I take them and throw them out/hand to other kids later on ?
    You take them and give to others. I have read a hadeeth about Prophet been gifted silk, he gave it to some meccan muskrk or something. Don't remember exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatoo View Post
    You take them and give to others. I have read a hadeeth about Prophet been gifted silk, he gave it to some meccan muskrk or something. Don't remember exactly.
    Was just a hypothetical scenario. Sadly, teachers don't give candies in colleges


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Yeah, it's a pity that he only has 650k subs. Deserves waaay more.
    yeah lol, best one IMO was the Indian restaurant one. guy has talent that's for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    yeah lol, best one IMO was the Indian restaurant one. guy has talent that's for sure
    For me, it's this one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Was just a hypothetical scenario. Sadly, teachers don't give candies in colleges
    Go solve probability

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatoo View Post
    Go solve probability
    Have a test coming up soon, so don't mind if I do


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    I want to know from you fellow PPers, what is your take on Halloween, have you ever went trick-or-treating? Is it indeed haram?
    "Halloween" is a portmanteau of All Hallows Day and Samhain (pron. sow-in).

    Samhain is the British Pagan New Year, still venerated by the few people who identify as Pagan. At Samhain the wall between the physical world and the spirit world become thin and the spirits of the ancestors return. By convention the Pagans would leave a small piece of food out for their relatives, else mischief wold be done.

    So you can see that the modern trick-or-treat tradition is an observation of Samhain. We bribe all the little ghosties and witches with sweets, else they play tricks on us. So yep, I would say haram

    When the Christians came to the British Isles, they absorbed Samhain into All Hallows, just as they absorbed Easter and Saturnalia into the death/resurrection of Jesus, and into Christmas.

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    I don't know if the trick - or - treating act itself is haraam or not. However, think about the candies themselves.

    In the western world most of the candies contain gelatine made of pork/pig, in that case the candy is haraam to eat. So, the safer option would be to not engage in trick-or-treating act at all.


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    Never been a fan of trick and treating but Halloween parties are fun for sure.

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    Just do what you want. People can interpret almost anything as being haram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbhaz65 View Post
    Best solution would be to not open the door .
    Then your house will get egged

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    It's best not to get involved, you never know what kind of "sweets" are been given to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    "Halloween" is a portmanteau of All Hallows Day and Samhain (pron. sow-in).

    Samhain is the British Pagan New Year, still venerated by the few people who identify as Pagan. At Samhain the wall between the physical world and the spirit world become thin and the spirits of the ancestors return. By convention the Pagans would leave a small piece of food out for their relatives, else mischief wold be done.

    So you can see that the modern trick-or-treat tradition is an observation of Samhain. We bribe all the little ghosties and witches with sweets, else they play tricks on us. So yep, I would say haram

    When the Christians came to the British Isles, they absorbed Samhain into All Hallows, just as they absorbed Easter and Saturnalia into the death/resurrection of Jesus, and into Christmas.
    Pretty sure Samhain is Irish mate

    Samhain (pronounced /ˈsɑːwɪn/ sah-win or /ˈsaʊ.ɪn/ sow-in[1] Irish pronunciation: [sˠaunʲ]) is a Gaelic festival marking the end of the harvest season and the beginning of winter or the "darker half" of the year
    Historically, it was widely observed throughout Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Man
    You Brits started with Katie Taylor, and now its Hallowe'en. Stop claiming our stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    "Halloween" is a portmanteau of All Hallows Day and Samhain (pron. sow-in).

    Samhain is the British Pagan New Year, still venerated by the few people who identify as Pagan. At Samhain the wall between the physical world and the spirit world become thin and the spirits of the ancestors return. By convention the Pagans would leave a small piece of food out for their relatives, else mischief wold be done.

    So you can see that the modern trick-or-treat tradition is an observation of Samhain. We bribe all the little ghosties and witches with sweets, else they play tricks on us. So yep, I would say haram

    When the Christians came to the British Isles, they absorbed Samhain into All Hallows, just as they absorbed Easter and Saturnalia into the death/resurrection of Jesus, and into Christmas.
    There are pagans in Britain even now? How did they survive for a thousand years?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    I don't know if the trick - or - treating act itself is haraam or not. However, think about the candies themselves.

    In the western world most of the candies contain gelatine made of pork/pig, in that case the candy is haraam to eat. So, the safer option would be to not engage in trick-or-treating act at all.
    Most of what the people give out are not those type of candies. People usually give chocolates/gum etc which doesn't contain gelatin. And you can just check the ingredients to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    There are pagans in Britain even now? How did they survive for a thousand years?
    I've lived in England all my life and I've never seen a Pagan so if they are in UK they are not in England lol.

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    I don't think there should be a problem with it, considering the candies are halal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    Pretty sure Samhain is Irish mate
    I think it's common to all the Celtic lands (which England was too until the Saxons invaders started to arrive).

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    There are pagans in Britain even now? How did they survive for a thousand years?
    Yep, there is even a Pagan Federation. Google it.

    Of course it went underground during King James II's time, when a lot of women were burned at the stake, but it was never extirpated and started to make a comeback in the 1950s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I've lived in England all my life and I've never seen a Pagan so if they are in UK they are not in England lol.
    Religion is a private matter for many people.


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    I used to do it when I was younger, I used to enjoy it but can see why now that it isn't looked favourably upon in Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I think it's common to all the Celtic lands (which England was too until the Saxons invaders started to arrive).



    Yep, there is even a Pagan Federation. Google it.

    Of course it went underground during King James II's time, when a lot of women were burned at the stake, but it was never extirpated and started to make a comeback in the 1950s.
    Wow. Good to hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    For those of you that are not familiar with Halloween, stop living under a rock Just kidding . No really, stop. No seriously, who doesn't know what Halloween is?

    Anyhoo, Halloween is a yearly celebration that occurs every October 31st, where kids (and or adults ) basically annoy the heck out of people's home and ask for candy, better known as trick or treat. Here in Canada, we've even got ourselves a little jingle: Trick-or treat, (smell my feet) give me something good to eat, not too big not too small, just the size of Montreal

    When I was just a little wittle boy, I used to always envy other kids/ and fellow classmates carrying garbage bags full of candies and chocolates while I was not permitted to go trick or treating (though I did go out a couple times without my parents knowing and hid the candies under my bed )

    Now you may ask why was I not allowed to trick or treat? Well, ever since I was a little boy, I used to go to this madrassah run by this Indian teacher, and we used to be his favorite pupils, not by choice . See, this Indian teacher, or Molana as I address him, was quite close to my family (still is) and my father and mother took his word for everything. Now, I do respect him, and he is very knowledgeable, but he would always tell us to NEVER go trick or treating.

    His reasoning? He felt that the act of trick-or treating was similar to that of begging or asking for food, and it is not pleasant in the eyes of Allah, as we have more than enough to provide for ourselves. Also, he said that it is not one of Islam's holidays/celebrations and so we shouldn't indulge in it. Fair enough, as a little boy, who was I to judge his reasoning and at the time, it felt pretty logical.

    As October 31st is tomorrow, I want to know from you fellow PPers, what is your take on Halloween, have you ever went trick-or-treating? Is it indeed haram?

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    The reason your Indian teacher (Molana) gave for not celebrating it, is strange.

    As much as I know this is actually a pagan celebration; Oct. 31 was consider the 1st day of year of those pagans and they believe that on this day the spirits of dead people revisit this world and would harm the living so the living would put things outside for the spirits so they dont harm living.

    After Jesus is gone from this world, Christianity become corrupt and start including pagan rituals in it; for example the concept of Trinity is actually a pagan concept which get into Christianity in a different way (instead of 3 big Gods pagan worship, Christianity introduces God, Son and the Holy Spirit). Halloween also first get into Christianity but then I think it was eventually rejected by most christians.

    I would refrain from celebrating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    The reason your Indian teacher (Molana) gave for not celebrating it, is strange.

    As much as I know this is actually a pagan celebration; Oct. 31 was consider the 1st day of year of those pagans and they believe that on this day the spirits of dead people revisit this world and would harm the living so the living would put things outside for the spirits so they dont harm living.

    After Jesus is gone from this world, Christianity become corrupt and start including pagan rituals in it; for example the concept of Trinity is actually a pagan concept which get into Christianity in a different way (instead of 3 big Gods pagan worship, Christianity introduces God, Son and the Holy Spirit). Halloween also first get into Christianity but then I think it was eventually rejected by most christians.

    I would refrain from celebrating it.
    See the thing is, most don't know the origin of Halloween or why it's celebrated. It's just commonly known as a day where kids dress up and trick-or-treat. In that sense then, is it haram/halal?


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    Thinking...should I go get a box of assorted chocolates just in case a couple kids ring my bell tonight...hmm..


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    You never went trick o treating, you must have had a ****** life then.................

    Best thing about living in the West was going tricko treating............


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    I have noticed how Trick o Treating has died on in some Parts of Canada, especially in Brampton. Barely anyone decorated there houses or went trick o treating, either because Most Desi's were too selfish to give out Candy, or some people had to bring Religion into a fun activity........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    See the thing is, most don't know the origin of Halloween or why it's celebrated. It's just commonly known as a day where kids dress up and trick-or-treat. In that sense then, is it haram/halal?
    But you know the origin now and so cannot claim ignorance. Its upto you but if I were you I would not do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    But you know the origin now and so cannot claim ignorance. Its upto you but if I were you I would not do it.
    lol. I'm 19, no way am I ever going to go trick-or-treating in the future. Was just a question that came across my mind seeing as it Halloween.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    You never went trick o treating, you must have had a ****** life then.................

    Best thing about living in the West was going tricko treating............
    If that was the best thing about living in the west for you then...lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    I have noticed how Trick o Treating has died on in some Parts of Canada, especially in Brampton. Barely anyone decorated there houses or went trick o treating, either because Most Desi's were too selfish to give out Candy, or some people had to bring Religion into a fun activity........
    That's why you need to go ring the houses in rich neighborhoods


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon786 View Post
    Religion is a private matter for many people.
    True. But it's most of the time not hard to tell what religion a person may be from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    lol. I'm 19, no way am I ever going to go trick-or-treating in the future. Was just a question that came across my mind seeing as it Halloween.
    Regarding your question, this thought came to my mind that the giving things away was a direct part of the pagan ritual so in this sense giving things away today means you are basically participating in that pagan ritual. Do you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    True. But it's most of the time not hard to tell what religion a person may be from.
    I think a white person would struggle to identify a Muslim from a Hindu if the two were not dressed in an explicitly religious manner. Likewise, as most non-Asian people hardly display their religion outwardly, it would be hard to identify an atheist from a Pagan for instance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Regarding your question, this thought came to my mind that the giving things away was a direct part of the pagan ritual so in this sense giving things away today means you are basically participating in that pagan ritual. Do you agree?
    Not necessarily. What If I want to give away candies with the intention of doing it only for Allah, and not the pagan ritual?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon786 View Post
    I think a white person would struggle to identify a Muslim from a Hindu if the two were not dressed in an explicitly religious manner. Likewise, as most non-Asian people hardly display their religion outwardly, it would be hard to identify an atheist from a Pagan for instance.
    Actually I've never been called a hindu nor Sikh or asked if was one but have been asked if I was muslim or not.

    The other part I agree with, the religions seem to be kind of I guess more "tame" in comparison with most eastern/Asian religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Actually I've never been called a hindu nor Sikh or asked if was one but have been asked if I was muslim or not.

    The other part I agree with, the religions seem to be kind of I guess more "tame" in comparison with most eastern/Asian religions.
    I didn't mean from personal experience, was just speaking in the general sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon786 View Post
    I didn't mean from personal experience, was just speaking in the general sense.
    Fair enough.

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    If everything has to be halal or otherwise then we are living in wrong world.
    Not everything is so black and white and if you see everything through the lenses of religion then you have a hard life ahead of you.

    What has fun to do with religion? isnt religoin supposed to be boring

    lets be open minded and enjoy thing we like and not care about things we dont like. dont involve religion in to it, it will only bring more mud slinging to the religoin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Not necessarily. What If I want to give away candies with the intention of doing it only for Allah, and not the pagan ritual?
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    I noticed halloween kinda died out during the recession, barely see anyone decorate houses anymore or kids going out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    You never went trick o treating, you must have had a ****** life then.................
    Well, I never did. It wasn't done in the UK before about 1995.

    We had Bonfire Night, but that seems to have gone out of fashion.

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    I'm seeing a lot of people from my age group going to so many Halloween parties.

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    My costume for the last 2 years. I will wear this year for this year as well. For clubbing use only. Where are my nurse's and schoolgirls at ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    For me, it's this one.

    LMAOOO I love coconut Reign he is so stupid and hilarious.


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