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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanna_Rascala View Post
    You are right man. Fawad is out of the team because he cannot speak Punjabi and because he's from Karachi.
    Yes
    Younis Khan is from Cheecha watni
    Shahid Afridi is from Gojra
    Khurram Manzoor is from Vehari
    Sarfraz Ahmed is from Sheikhupura

    All speak Punjabi fluently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanna_Rascala View Post
    Yes, don't get me wrong because Ramiz is a joke cricketer but to compare him with Ifti chacha is a bit unfair. Although I understand your point about longevity.
    Once I watching that fool's (Ramiz) interview on TV and he was harping on about how first class standard has always been a joke in Pakistan and how used to score so many tons in a single season just for fun.

    So it got me wondering and I checked his first class stats, that fool has scored more than one ton (a grand total of 2) only once in all of his first class seasons. Barring that earth shattering performance of 2 ton season, he had only managed one ton per season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricfan14 View Post
    The most irritating thing is that NO ONE ASKS SELECTORS TO JUSTIFY!!!!

    Everyone's complaining about Khurram, but it's not like he's failed at the int'l level yet.

    Iftikhar was crap when he was selected and is bad here.
    Iftikhar has been picked for the same reason as Mohammed Nawaz
    Because he played well against the lions

    There are other talents out there like Asif Ali and khalid Latif but maybe the selectors are hoping iftikhar is not just an a team bully


    "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri View Post
    Iftikhar has been picked for the same reason as Mohammed Nawaz
    Because he played well against the lions

    There are other talents out there like Asif Ali and khalid Latif but maybe the selectors are hoping iftikhar is not just an a team bully
    Other players played well against the Lions. Fakhar Zaman should've been selected then, instead of someone we've seen fail and look totally overmatched on the international level

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricfan14 View Post
    Other players played well against the Lions. Fakhar Zaman should've been selected then, instead of someone we've seen fail and look totally overmatched on the international level
    They're still looking for the next hafeez
    I.e a batter at number 3 who can also bowl


    If zaman learnt how to bowl he probably would have been picked


    "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanna_Rascala View Post
    Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen him bat, you would know that he can't play decent pacers. He looks like a real tailender against them like Ifti Chacha
    Yes, he cannot play pacers. That is why, he scored a 63 (90+ strike rate) at Perth against Harris and Johnson. He also scored 64 at the Oval against Anderson, Broad, and Bresnan.

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    Surprise Ahmed should be nowhere our t20 squad, anyone who has any sort of hope from him is having delusions of grandeur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Yes, he cannot play pacers. That is why, he scored a 63 (90+ strike rate) at Perth against Harris and Johnson. He also scored 64 at the Oval against Anderson, Broad, and Bresnan.
    What about his other innings during those series? Or his scores in UAE vs. Australia? It's easy to pick and choose because even someone like Shahzaib Hassan has played in England. Should we get him in the team?

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    Wonderful inning by Iftikhar ... PSL has exposed all big names of domestic T20 cup
    1) Nauman Anwer
    2) Iftikhar Ahmed
    3) Usama Mir
    4) sohail Tanvir
    5) Imran khan 3

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    All batsmen coming through KPK should be ignored from now on, after the experiment with the two geezers (Iftikhar and Mohmand Chacha).

    Rizwan hanging on by a hair's breadth as well.

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    1 match cannot decide. He still was better than Shoaib Malik in this match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    1 match cannot decide. He still was better than Shoaib Malik in this match.
    1 match??? Have you not seen him bat in the other games? I don't even know what to say to that

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    He may surprise us by being even worse than we originally thought


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanna_Rascala View Post
    What about his other innings during those series? Or his scores in UAE vs. Australia? It's easy to pick and choose because even someone like Shahzaib Hassan has played in England. Should we get him in the team?
    You questioned his ability to play fast bowling and I gave two examples where he excelled in challenging conditions against top fast bowling.

    It is funny that other batsmen have failed series after series for years but they were persisted with. However, Fawad failed in just 1 series vs Australia despite having an excellent comeback that year and he was dropped from the WC squad which would have completely demoralized him. He was then brought back for 3 matches vs Bangladesh where mostly all batsman sucked but again Fawad was the first one who was dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Surprise Ahmed should be nowhere our t20 squad, anyone who has any sort of hope from him is having delusions of grandeur.
    Coming from the guy who still has hope for Kami.

    Look I know he's trash. We all do.

    But nothing wrong with hoping.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Coming from the guy who still has hope for Kami.

    Look I know he's trash. We all do.

    But nothing wrong with hoping.
    Hoping for Kami to come through vs Iftikhar to come through is like expecting the sun to rise tomorrow vs pigs to fly.

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    He's utter trash. Don't waste another grand opportunity in trying to win this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Hoping for Kami to come through vs Iftikhar to come through is like expecting the sun to rise tomorrow vs pigs to fly.
    Haven't seen the sun rise in the PSL lately, have we.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    All batsmen coming through KPK should be ignored from now on, after the experiment with the two geezers (Iftikhar and Mohmand Chacha).

    Rizwan hanging on by a hair's breadth as well.
    Adil Amin is good.

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    Surprise us by being a lot more rubbish then we actually think he is.

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    One more chance?

    Let's see...


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    Let's hope we don't have the chance to find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by sh47 View Post
    Surprise us by being a lot more rubbish then we actually think he is.
    Yup, sounds like a safe bet to me.


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    Instead of betting on a seaming all rounder in england he is betting on a spin bowling all rounder. Probably is impressed by moin ali.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    He may surprise us by being even worse than we originally thought
    hahaha

    Still makes me laugh!


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    In the squad.

    Who knows, an injury or two (hopefully not) and we may see Ifti in whites.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    I wonder what will happen to this forum if he scores a nice fifty in one of the warm ups.


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

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    Well, Arthur has hinted at the legend's selection...


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    OK I'm making a bold claim here - bash me as much as you want - but he will get a 50 here.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    He is an excuse of a cricketer. He is a sort of a batsman that if he scores a 20 odd I will consider it a success.


    If we had to play such a cricketer we should have rather played Imad or Nawaz


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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    He is an excuse of a cricketer. He is a sort of a batsman that if he scores a 20 odd I will consider it a success.


    If we had to play such a cricketer we should have rather played Imad or Nawaz
    Yes, but now that he's in, how about we back him?


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    He's already surprised me by managing to make it into the team


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    Already surprise me when i saw that he is 25 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Yes, but now that he's in, how about we back him?
    There is no point in denying the inevitable, closing eyes and expecting Miracles.

    He's just not good enough and is an undeserving selection to boot. I hope he scores but there is as much chance of that happening as of snow tomorrow in Islamabad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    There is no point in denying the inevitable, closing eyes and expecting Miracles.

    He's just not good enough and is an undeserving selection to boot. I hope he scores but there is as much chance of that happening as of snow tomorrow in Islamabad.
    Have you watched him bat before?


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    This is the supposed ''all-rounder''?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Have you watched him bat before?
    Lots of times. I havent seen a worse batsman in recent times. Even demoting Hafeez to no. 7 would have been better


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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    Lots of times. I havent seen a worse batsman in recent times. Even demoting Hafeez to no. 7 would have been better
    Alright, let's give him an innings or two at the international stage.

    I realize he's a pathetic selection but well, not much we can do but hope.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    OK I'm making a bold claim here - bash me as much as you want - but he will get a 50 here.
    Love your positivity bro. I try to be as positive as you but doesn't work out well tbh.

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    Haha it would be a big 'anda' on the whole of Pakistan!


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.


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    He surprised me by getting selected. We ve gone half way house again. Should have gone with a regular bowler or regular batter. He strikes me as a really reall poor man's hafeez


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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    Lots of times. I havent seen a worse batsman in recent times. Even demoting Hafeez to no. 7 would have been better
    Didn't he do well against the Lions team and score a 50 in the only side match he played?

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    He was playing as the fifth bowler, yet he bowled ONLY two overs in the whole innings

    I don't get the whole point behind Iftikhar Ahmed being in the eleven


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    @Square Drive Well, it's pathetic to see how some people want him to fail. He didn't ask for his selection, selectors and management selected him. He didn't ask them to give him chance in Playing XI. Management gave him.

    Now he is representing Pakistan team, so i wish him all the best and i hope he play a great innings today.


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    He has already surprised us by getting selected. 20+ will be a huge surprise. Just want this to be his last match, we cant carry dead weight beyond this series


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Love your positivity bro. I try to be as positive as you but doesn't work out well tbh.
    Thanks.

    Don't worry - it will work out like it has in the past. When we pull out extraordinary performances out of the blue, I feel like it was all worth it.

    Pessimists end up looking lke idiots then.

    Quote Originally Posted by #GreenRoars View Post
    @Square Drive Well, it's pathetic to see how some people want him to fail. He didn't ask for his selection, selectors and management selected him. He didn't ask them to give him chance in Playing XI. Management gave him.

    Now he is representing Pakistan team, so i wish him all the best and i hope he play a great innings today.
    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Good post.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    Hope justice is served.

    I don't care if he is playing for Pakistan or Turkmenistan.

    Don't have time for Misbah's school friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Hope justice is served.

    I don't care if he is playing for Pakistan or Turkmenistan.

    Don't have time for Misbah's school friends.
    He is 15 years younger than Misbah (Atleast on paper) . Did Misbah buy Sweets for him when he was doing MBA and Ifti was in Grade 1


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    Come on guys! Give him a chance. He can't be worse than Hafeez who had been a walking wicket in this series. It's very unfair to bash someone even before he's faced a ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Thanks.

    Don't worry - it will work out like it has in the past. When we pull out extraordinary performances out of the blue, I feel like it was all worth it.

    Pessimists end up looking lke idiots then.



    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Good post.
    Haha yes need your optimism to work today!

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    Iftikhar Ahmed has Opened and has also played at number 3 for Peshawar aswell as Wapda team in FC Cricket.

    He will be Officially 31 years old on 3rd September 2016.


    Before Cricket Archive Edit his profile have a look yourself.

    http://cricketarchive.com/Players/21...44/214544.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Iftikhar Ahmed has Opened and has also played at number 3 for Peshawar aswell as Wapda team in FC Cricket.

    He will be Officially 31 years old on 3rd September 2016.


    Before Cricket Archive Edit his profile have a look yourself.

    http://cricketarchive.com/Players/21...44/214544.html
    but cricinfo shows his age is 26


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mir jibran View Post
    but cricinfo shows his age is 26

    9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

    It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

    Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


    Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


    Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

    Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


    Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

    It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

    Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


    Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


    Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

    Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


    Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.
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    He is going to surprise us with a pair of ducks in this test match and nothing more.


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    Sarfraz should bat ahead of him.

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    Saddens me to see such mediocre players getting preferred over proven performers like Fawad who just can't seem to find a place in any team.

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    Just pretend he never played.


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    He definitely surprised us.....not.

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    Big opportunity missed in not playing Babar Azam.

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    Sad thing is, he looked good till he played that Afridi-esque shot. Same ball that got Misbah out was played efficiently by him. blocked again, straight drive for four then that horrific pull shot.
    Last edited by GudduBadmash; 13th August 2016 at 02:03.

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    well surprised I am guys.


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    One more innings still left guys. Don't doubt the legend's abilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

    It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

    Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


    Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


    Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

    Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


    Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.
    Lowkey he's Ayub Dogar with a different name lol. Looks are the exact same as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swing View Post
    He is going to surprise us with a pair of ducks in this test match and nothing more.
    Wrong. :iftikhar


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    I think he will score some in the 2nd innings , just don't play that awful shot again. One hope is that he doesn't get to bat in the 2nd innings.


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    And finally he as surprised us with the catch and also that priceless celebration from him


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    Quote Originally Posted by #GreenRoars View Post
    And finally he as surprised us with the catch and also that priceless celebration from him
    That celebration goes out to all the haters, ifti read this thread when he woke up this morning

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    Poor delivery.


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    haha he sure did

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    Cricinfo says he's a mere 25 years of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    One more innings still left guys. Don't doubt the legend's abilities.



    Lowkey he's Ayub Dogar with a different name lol. Looks are the exact same as well.



    Wrong. :iftikhar
    Indeed I was, missed his half century by just 46 runs.


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    Feel sorry for him.

    He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

    He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Feel sorry for him.

    He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

    He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.
    You wouldn't think we could beat these guus withe passengers would u lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah View Post
    You wouldn't think we could beat these guus withe passengers would u lol
    Passengers are just passengers. The team carries them but they don't necessarily weigh the team down, especially when people like Iftikhar are concerned.

    What I mean to say is that he is hardly noticed on the pitch. He barely bats for a few deliveries and bowls for a few overs.

    If 2-3 other players show up, they make up for his failures. Players like him attract negative attention only when the team is losing, which he hasn't been a part of so far.

    I'm glad he took a good crucial catch of Cook today though, at least he can take something from this game home, because this may well be his first and last Test cap.

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    What did I tell you folks? He'd win us the series.

    That Cook catch has just won us the match. Not the series though, as he wasn't there in the 3rd Test - but at least made us draw the series.

    What do you think would've happened if Hafeez was at his usual slip position here? A drop and 200 by Cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    What did I tell you folks? He'd win us the series.

    That Cook catch has just won us the match. Not the series though, as he wasn't there in the 3rd Test - but at least made us draw the series.

    What do you think would've happened if Hafeez was at his usual slip position here? A drop and 200 by Cook.
    Harsh. Iftikhar dropped one in first innings too


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Passengers are just passengers. The team carries them but they don't necessarily weigh the team down, especially when people like Iftikhar are concerned.

    What I mean to say is that he is hardly noticed on the pitch. He barely bats for a few deliveries and bowls for a few overs.

    If 2-3 other players show up, they make up for his failures. Players like him attract negative attention only when the team is losing, which he hasn't been a part of so far.

    I'm glad he took a good crucial catch of Cook today though, at least he can take something from this game home, because this may well be his first and last Test cap.
    Yes . I was just having a dig ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Feel sorry for him.

    He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

    He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.
    he was forced unto the team against his will?

    one can feel genuinely sorry for him without turning him into a parody

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    Quote Originally Posted by silent ischemia View Post
    Yes
    Younis Khan is from Cheecha watni
    Shahid Afridi is from Gojra
    Khurram Manzoor is from Vehari
    Sarfraz Ahmed is from Sheikhupura

    All speak Punjabi fluently
    You forgot Asad Shafiq is from toba tek singh

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    I was certainly surprised when he held onto that catch from Cook, and from his celebrations it seems he was surprised too


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I was certainly surprised when he held onto that catch from Cook, and from his celebrations it seems he was surprised too
    Thread vindicated.


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