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18th February 2016, 13:53 #1
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Indian Cars and Bikes scene
Couldnt find any thread on this so decided to make a new one.
Our neighbors deserve to know what Indians drive
India has big presence of Japanese cars which capture most of the market in cars segment Maruti Suzuki being the biggest of them all.
Then their are few european and american brands, and finally India has its own huge home grown automobile companies in all the segments.
Recent Delhi Auto Expo showcased a lot of new models which will be launched this year. Finally Indian car scene has matured and international players are taking it seriously too. Gone are the days of rajdoots and ambassadors. Though Bullet still going strong.
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18th February 2016, 13:58 #2
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Tata showcased its new car Prima in jan Delhi auto expo.
Old working horse Tata safari got a new model
Pickup (Xexon)
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18th February 2016, 14:03 #3
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Obviously we drive world's cheapest car Tata Nano too
Mahindra Reva Electric Car "Halo"
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18th February 2016, 14:07 #4
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Great thread, Indians finally picking up their game, padosis might envy us right now
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18th February 2016, 14:09 #5
There was actually a thread on cars but sadly no Indian posters replied on that.Also i think Hyundai has a good penetration of the market probably the best After Sales service too.
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18th February 2016, 14:10 #6
Reva finally getting a decent car out,Mahindra R&D is just killing Tata motors off.
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18th February 2016, 14:51 #7
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18th February 2016, 14:55 #8
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Mahindra Komodo, concept SUV but looks great.
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18th February 2016, 14:57 #9
Don't forget the collaboration of Mahindra-Renault where Mahindra actually picked up a lot and by the time Renault realized it was on losing side Mahindra already had a plan in action.Also they are a very ambitious company now unlike Tata motors,the failure of Quanto was not taken lightly by Mahindra.
(Above source of information on Quanto is from some management people i know in M&M).
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18th February 2016, 14:59 #10
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18th February 2016, 14:59 #11
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All Indian companies have upped the ante, they know they cannot sell the same old crap forever with increased customer awareness. Even company like TVS is investing on RnD and new designs.
TVS Reveals TVS Akula Concept
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18th February 2016, 15:06 #12
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TVS Apache
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18th February 2016, 15:13 #13
Man those are some ugly cars. The bikes are pretty cool though.
Sua cuique voluptas.
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18th February 2016, 15:15 #14
Apache is ripping off from the latest FZ series from Yamaha not to forget Suzuki got something similar as well.
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18th February 2016, 15:19 #15
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Mahindra MOJO
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18th February 2016, 15:24 #17
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Mahindra has a special place in my heart for the two road-trips that I undertook in the last couple of years. First was in the deserts of Rajasthan in a Mahindra Thar and second from Mumbai to Goa in an XUV500.
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18th February 2016, 15:30 #18
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18th February 2016, 15:34 #19
MS Vitara:
Tata Nexon:
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18th February 2016, 15:38 #20
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18th February 2016, 15:39 #21
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Custom bikes and cars are making their presence felt too.
Rajputana Customs based out of Jaipur
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18th February 2016, 15:48 #26
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18th February 2016, 15:50 #27
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Purpose of this thread is not to make anyone jelly, just FYI thread about what Indians drive or gonna drive.
Also you can post any car in India, be it local or foreign owned.
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18th February 2016, 15:52 #28
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Leh is a picturisque location in kashmir where most backpackers or bikers like to go on long drive. its so isolated and high up that some people call it roof of the world too. Mostly buddhist monks live there and i think the name is buddhist too.
3 idiots was shot over there.
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18th February 2016, 16:01 #29
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Recently compact SUV market has really exploded. Its for small families especially in Cities who want SUV but cant afford a big one or to navigate through bad traffic. A lot of companies have taken it seriously and launched their compact suv version
Ford Eco Sport
Mahindra KUV (Compact version of mighty XUV)
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18th February 2016, 16:06 #30
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Chevy Compact SUV
Renault Duster
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18th February 2016, 17:02 #31
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18th February 2016, 17:03 #32
Not a fan of Duster,Prefer eco sport over it or even CRV for that matter.
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18th February 2016, 17:04 #33
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18th February 2016, 20:13 #35
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Feels gooooood , People talking about products I helped create
Thanks guys!!
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18th February 2016, 20:23 #36
Thinking of getting a bike. But afraid as I don't know how to ride one, and in any accident the bike rider suffers the most. The better option is a car, but cannot afford one right now. Will be joining a driving school this weekend, will decide to buy one if I find it easy.
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Indian automotive industry is predominantly for India only...the only other places where their cars can sell in large volumes is Africa, which is yet to happen. To think these cars will be driven around Europe is too far fetched...most Indians would prefer a BMW over an Indian car, and that is a fact.
Kinda funny how people in this thread think this will make Pakistan Jealous...most Pakistanis already invest their money in Toyota/Honda in Pakistan...who would get a Mahindra or Maruti over that??
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18th February 2016, 20:40 #39
WE are long way to go agreed also as the OP already stated its not for making anyone jelly but what we have is a very good and hopefully we will improve on it.Also there is Toyota,Hyundai,Honda,Renault,Ford,Volkswagen selling well in India and we somehow don't let any jap dominate our market which tbh is a disaster for Pakistan as no one is able to penetrate the market because of their monopoly.
Automobile Exports
Indian exports for this product category were $14.5 billion. The 10 countries below imported 47.8% of that total.
1. United States: $1.2 billion (8.4%)
2. Mexico: $1 billion (6.9%)
3. South Africa: $888.8 million (6.1%)
4. United Kingdom: $637.4 million (4.4%)
5. Sri Lanka: $596.9 million (4.1%)
6. Bangladesh: $592.1 million (4.1%)
7. Turkey: $580.4 million (4%)
8. Nigeria: $546.8 million (3.8%)
9. United Arab Emirates: $433.6 million (3%)
10. Colombia: $428.9 million (3%)
http://www.worldsrichestcountries.co..._partners.htmlLast edited by JaDed; 18th February 2016 at 20:41.
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18th February 2016, 20:52 #40
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first of all that jealous comment was joke, secondly Toyota/Honda are not pakistani companies but tata and mahindra are, Indian auto-mobile companies are upping their game and coming out with some good models, can't say the same for pakistani automobile industry
, is there even a pakistani auto-mobile company?
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before you lose your poopoo...just re read what I said. I didn't say Toyo or Honda were Pakistani...nor did I say Pakistan has an automotive industry..
I work in finance so for me it all comes down to value..what I said was...people in Pakistan would rather buy a Japanese car rather than Indian (i.e invest their money in a better product)...and ppl in India would rather buy a German car over Indian.
To you second point of Mahindra and Tata being Indian companies - That is true, and no where did I say they were not...but they serve the Indian market rather than the global automotive demand. Cars manufactured in India by an Indian company are majority of times sold in India only, they have no impact on the worlds automotive supply.
Good try at taking a dig at Pakistan not having an auto industry...but anyone who has studied econ 101 would know that would be a terrible strategy..i.e to kick start an industry that has no relevance to the country, nor do we Pakistanis posses the competitive advantage to build cars. Plus the demand of cars in Pakistan doesn't require locally built cheaper options, like it does in India, hence why you have those manufacturers.
I might not be the most pro India guy on this forum...but to automatically assume I'm trying to take jabs at your automotive achievements is not what I was doing.
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18th February 2016, 22:48 #43
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Pininfarina is an external designer that Ferrari has used for a few of their cars ( I can think of only 3 at the top of my head)....so it's not really a manufacturer...and yes TATA is the holding company for Jags and Ranges but that does not equate to TATA manufacturing any of those cars, or instilling their technology to build them...TATA is simply the parent company that financed these manufacturers when they were in trouble.
If TATA was manufacturing Jags, you could chest thump about it, but they are built end to end in the UK, and will always be UK automotive companies rather than Indian.
That's all what my point was
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18th February 2016, 22:55 #44
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You are kind of right on a few things...Pakistan automotive supply is dominated by the Japanese..primarily because they got there before any other auto manufacturers could. There is a rise in different manufacturers now selling in Pakistan..Porsche, Audi, BMW, Mercedes and co now all of have dealerships...but it is still in early stages.
India can dominate in manufacturing of automotive components, there are already many automotive suppliers with plants in India...but Indian cars will take time (like you said)...their best option is selling in Africa...Indian conglomerates already have active business in Kenya..and that would be the best place to start..just btw Africa is supposed to grow at twice or three times the rate of Europe.
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Dude, anyone will prefer BMW over any local normal car, i mean who in the right mind would get honda, toyota, mahindra if for the same price they can get a high end BMW or Merc.
You are comparing a premium product over a commuters product.
Better comparison is would anyone in India buy a honda, toyota over tata, mahindra just because of quality? Answer may surprise you
Also Indian car market is not 100 years old like other dominant car maker countries, market just opened up and for a new country India is doing pretty good. India already has better reputation in automobiles then China. You cannot expect India to take on America, Germeny, Japan etc in just a decade of innovation while they have been in the forefront since cars were invented.
However, pound for pound Indian bikes can take on any bikemakers in the world.Last edited by Lords; 18th February 2016 at 23:24.
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18th February 2016, 23:24 #46
Yeah Africa is where Indian companies are making money not only in automobile sector but also "beauty products" but oil prices crash has effected Nigeria which is a big market for us hopefully economic activity continues there because Latin America another market of Indian companies has also slowed down.
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18th February 2016, 23:35 #47
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Another compact SUV selling like hot cake is Hyundai Creta
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18th February 2016, 23:44 #48
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New entries in compact SUV segment
Honda BR-V
Vitara Brezza - Maruti New Offering
Datsun Go Cross
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18th February 2016, 23:55 #49
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Get a Scooty, they are as easy to drive as a bicycle, no gears and no hassle. Now a days scooties come with power of bikes and easy to handle.
Gone are the days when scooty was a vehicle of girls, and if you cant buy a car and wont buy a motor bike then scooty is the best choice for you.
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Man i love this bike
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19th February 2016, 00:08 #51
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KTM Duke is another one selling in huge numbers, after Pulser this is new favorite of college kids
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19th February 2016, 00:35 #52
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Another Mahindra in compact SUV segment
TUV 300
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19th February 2016, 07:24 #53
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Buddy, I work for Jaguar... I know how the R&D and manufacturing structure is...
2015 Discovery sport had its 100% R&D done in Indian centers. Jags are being assembled in the Pune plant of Tata.
I am working on Jags scheduled for year 2020.. I have both a TATA ID and a JLR ID, JLR works as a full fledged subsidiary of TATA, albeit with a special status.
As for Pininfarina, it is the most legendary auto design firm in the world, and an Indian company. Its status in auto industry is something very big, and owning that is a huge deal.
PS: I work for an Indian company that makes Jaguar.
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19th February 2016, 07:37 #57
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Some pretty cool vehicles here. But, there was this one bike that looked like it came out in the early 1900's lel. TINDAI RAJPUTANA CUSTOMS GHOSHT
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19th February 2016, 08:09 #61
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Eh before the Japanese, Pakistan's auto market was dominated by the Europeans and the Americans (to a lesser extent).
Ask any Pakistani that grew up in the 50's and 60's. You would have seen more Morris Minor's or Chevy Bel-Air's than Suzukis or Toyotas. My late uncle used to have a split-window VW Kombi van in the early 60's (I still wished it was still kept in the family).
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Two different scenarios imo, Chinese people do sell "Things" that the world wants but in case of automobile its mostly internal for them and on comparative basis Indian automobile parts have better rep than Chinese.
You are right on other things though as such but Chinese automobile isn't big outside China neither is Indian but our reputation is improving although Chinese automobile 'market' is huge and there are many players in it.
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I think we will drift entirely talking about scales of economy of India and China.
As for auto industry, Indian automakers dominate their market far better than the Chinese automkers in their own markets.
and as for the copying part, Copyright infringements and patent violations is not a sign of a credible industry.
In both regards as stated above, Indian automakers are rated better than Chinese ones.
Production wise is a different story altogether.
Anyway the point of the thread was to highlight the milestones and growth of Indian Auto majors, which has been quite spectacular in this century.
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19th February 2016, 11:53 #72
The reason why Chinese cars do not dominate Chinese market is because most Chinese are fascinated by the Western brands.
There is a growing sense of Westernization among Chinese young generation.
And BMW, Ferraris and Mercedes are what younger generations want if they have the money.
My question to u is this
Do Indian rich people prefer homemade cars to Bmw and Mercedes if they have a choice?
Cause in China they don't.
And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....
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Tata didnt finance the Jag company, they own it, entirely two different things. Tata motors are not an investment company. They way Tata has turned Jag around is amazing and a personal success for Ratan Tata who once went to owners of Jag to sell his company and they made fun of him and later he bailed them out by buying their company.
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Talking about Ugly, Mahindra Bolero Attitude is probably the ugliest of all, too plasticky for a offroad rugged vehicle
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Another ugly vehicle is new Tata compact SUV, TATA Nexon
Looks like a plastic toy then a SUV
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I see many ugly cars by Indian companies but i think actually they are good. They are becoming more adventurous and not holding themselves back to work on a crazy idea.
Learning from this will be long term beneficial.
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