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    Does a defeat to NZ or an abandoned match effectively end Australia's WT20 campaign?

    With Pakistan, Bangladesh and India (certain defeat) still to come, this match is of great importance to the Aussies.

    The match against NZ was probably one of the two matches they could count on winning, losing this or sharing points could be enough to send the Aussies packing.

    Pakistan have hit form and have shown in the past they are more than capable of beating this Aus side, so that's 2 matches they're going into as underdogs.

    No pressure @Convict


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    Why are you so sure that they will lose against Ind/ Pak?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Why are you so sure that they will lose against Ind/ Pak?
    If there's a hint of turn, these boys will crumble. Just take note of the series in NZ where the wickets were on the slower side.


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    I'd love for us to contribute to an early group stage exit, but if we do get a game, it will likely be reduced game.

    A shortened game will favor Aus.


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    Pakistan will need to play really well to beat Aussies. Its not that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Pakistan will need to play really well to beat Aussies. Its not that easy.
    The Aussies will field a really poor bowling line up and Amir will be way too good for their batsmen.

    Going to love watching Smith, Finch and Warner go up against Amir, it will be great to watch

    I'm sure Smith still remembers Amir well



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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Pakistan will need to play really well to beat Aussies. Its not that easy.
    If AUS bat first on a phatta they will score 200+ and that would seal the game 95%


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    If AUS bat first on a phatta they will score 200+ and that would seal the game 95%
    Aus aren't going to score 200 against an attack that has Amir.

    Even when Amir isn't taking wickets, he is capable of bowling economically.

    4 overs for less than 28 will mean Aus need to score 172+ in 16.

    I don't see that happening.
    Last edited by Aman; 18th March 2016 at 04:15.


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    One match and hopes touching 7th sky let's play against india first than we can think of beating Australia.
    But yes it is such tough group that a single loss or shared points can count big. If you lose 2 matches than its dificult to qualify. since NZ has already won against india and if they win against Au. Than the race will be for second spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    The Aussies will field a really poor bowling line up and Amir will be way too good for their batsmen.

    Going to love watching Smith, Finch and Warner go up against Amir, it will be great to watch

    I'm sure Smith still remembers Amir well
    He's only got 4 overs. Only bowling 2 up front.

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    Inshallah Pakistan smash the Aussies, but if anyone thinks that it will be a walk-over, they are kidding themselves. Australia will no doubt be favorites when we meet, regardless of what happens between now and then.

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    Agree with OP. One of the more sensible posters around. Amir will thrash australia to the point where they will forfeit the world cup and go back home crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    If AUS bat first on a phatta they will score 200+ and that would seal the game 95%
    I would be surprised if AUS reaches 100 against pak

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChachaCricket View Post
    He's only got 4 overs. Only bowling 2 up front.
    2 wickets within 4 overs is more than possible.

    If Amir is bowling well, he could possibly even get a third.


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    Australia can definitely score near to 200 against any attack if the pitch is not giving anything to any kind of bowler (Especially they can do so in some of the flat tracks at their home). But here there is always some vulnerability about their batting and history says they struggle against Ind, Pak & SL.

    NZ was also the same kind of team (or even poorer) but they have developed leaps and bounds, their success is credit to their bowlers, otherwise they would have followed the Aussie suit (as their batsmen more or less play like Aussies)

    I think Pakistan can fancy their chances against these two teams, as Pakistan can plan properly against them now after watching the previous NZ match with India and also today's match!
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    I guess the Australia match will be the biggest test for Amir, if it turns out to be a flat track.

    Australians are the biggest phatta warriors in the world (more than us) and if he manages to get them in a tangle on a flat track, then it would be a fantastic achievement for him.

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    Our bowling attack is overrated.

    Especially our spinners are nothign special and shouldnt trouble Aussies


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    Isn't this the same bowling attack who couldn't take more than a couple of wickets against NZ over 2 T20Is ?


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    Aus will beat India
    India will beat Pakistan
    Pakistan will beat Australia

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    Against Australia in t20 wcs Pakistan usually brings out its A game

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    A/c to Wather. Com
    Rain would stop Round 3 PM (the time match is scheduled to start) because it has been raining since quite alot time I think match can start around 4.30-5 PM so we may have a 12-15 ovr game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Aus aren't going to score 200 against an attack that has Amir.

    Even when Amir isn't taking wickets, he is capable of bowling economically.

    4 overs for less than 28 will mean Aus need to score 172+ in 16.

    I don't see that happening.
    Because Maxwell, Warner, Marsh, Smith, Finch, Faulkner and Hastings can't hit sixes on a phatta against the likes of Afridi and Imad Wasim?

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    All this talk about beating Australia. Their batting wont get run over by any means, Watson showed what he can do against spin in the PSL, Khawaja could be brought in to tackle the spin, maxi and steve smith are both pretty good hitter of spin. We do have a better chance dealing with their bowling than the other two teams left to face. Problem still might be Australia's fielding creating the pressure allowing them to pick wickets. Having said that, I do expect Pakistan to win 2 of the remaining 3 games.

    Referring the original post, Australia really do need to win today, will be very tough to stay alive with a loss to start with in this group. The pressure alone of the must win games can make you do funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    Because Maxwell, Warner, Marsh, Smith, Finch, Faulkner and Hastings can't hit sixes on a phatta against the likes of Afridi and Imad Wasim?
    Yes, and how exactly did they go against the WI in the warm ups?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Messiah View Post
    Agree with OP. One of the more sensible posters around. Amir will thrash australia to the point where they will forfeit the world cup and go back home crying.
    I honestly have no idea whether some of these posters are joking or not. I'm new here so I'll assume that you and others think that our Paks will beat Australia.
    Have Pakistan not given you enough heartache at bombing out miserably time after time, after giving us false hope? Must I remind you about the Asia cup so recently?
    What have we done? Beaten a qualifier.....a minnow? Sure twas a good win and I celebrated long and hard, but now I'm back to reality. The Aussies are so far ahead of us, it's not funny.
    What will you all be saying after Aus smash NZ, and we get smashed by India?
    I refuse to set myself up for dissapointment. I've learnt my lessons from my beloved Green brothers. Australia is a giant.....let's be realistic.

    Inshallah we pull something out of the hat, and inshallah I am proven wrong.....

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    CB saying there hasn't rained yet today,lets see how it goes.


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    Pakistan's only advantages against Australia is off course Amir and that Umar Akmal almost always shows up against them.

    I think a defeat against NZ wont kill Australia off but from a pakistani perspective that's the result we should hope for


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana View Post
    Against Australia in t20 wcs Pakistan usually brings out its A game

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    not really its only really Umar who brings out his A game, though sarfraz seems to like playing the aussies as well. They will most likely blow our top order, malik is a dud against good pace.


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    Does talking big before important matches against Australia guarantee Kiwi failures?

    Well @Aman?

    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?


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    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    Nice thread.

    That's the banter I like

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    140 is a competitive score in Dharamshala


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    Aus batting is too good and should chase it comfortably. They should always win toss and bowl first.


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    Okay. I'll accept responsibility for this


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Okay. I'll accept responsibility for this
    Haha you should be happy the threads got merged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Okay. I'll accept responsibility for this
    Buhahahahha

    Take your own advice.

    Messed up big time not preparing slow wickets for the Tests.

    Hope your boys enjoy the flight home.


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    If it turns then Australia are sunk, as this recently closed out innings showed.


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    Well done @Aman.


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    New Zealand has good bowling unit, good spinners + good pace bowlers (and not just trundlers as sometimes they do possess). That is the reason (+ toss) why they won both the games. Otherwise considering just their batting it is no different from Australia. India would have won the last game at least fighting hard till the end, but NZ bowlers were relentless! Otherwise (without good bowling unit) NZ would have lost both the games (like how they were poor in the previous world cup in SC and also some games against Bangladesh). Toss is also playing vital role! Hence Pak and Bangladesh should target this team more than Aussies.

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    I remember in the 2011 WC, Pakistan demolished Australia and in the very match India whipped them back to Sydney and Melbourne and Wollongong..

    I hope us and the parosis repeat the same feat again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Buhahahahha

    Take your own advice.

    Messed up big time not preparing slow wickets for the Tests.

    Hope your boys enjoy the flight home.
    I'd rather win the tests and to be honest so would you


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I remember in the 2011 WC, Pakistan demolished Australia and in the very match India whipped them back to Sydney and Melbourne and Wollongong..

    I hope us and the parosis repeat the same feat again.
    Kinda random?

    Why Wollongong of all places?


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I remember in the 2011 WC, Pakistan demolished Australia and in the very match India whipped them back to Sydney and Melbourne and Wollongong..

    I hope us and the parosis repeat the same feat again.
    Bhai they have won 5 ODI world Cups. India and Pakistan together have won 3 World Cups and 2 World T20's. Not to mention they smash us regularly in bilateral ODIs as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    I'd rather win the tests and to be honest so would you
    We messed up.

    Next time around, I think KW will be smart enough to know slow turners are the way to go.

    He seems quite the thinker tbh, he isn't one dimensional like McCullum and doesn't pick on reputation.


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    Only our good luck can gain us a victory against New Zealand.


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    lol for the first time Nz spinners looks more potent than ours.

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    Australia's campaign was over from day 1 #neededrain @Convict


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Australia's campaign was over from day 1 #neededrain @Convict
    Oh well.

    Does it make you feel better about the tests?


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Oh well.

    Does it make you feel better about the tests?
    KW's captaincy does.


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