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    I'll tell you what the second biggest problem is right now in Pakistan cricket

    We genuinely lack a world class batsman and we lack a world class bowler.

    No Amir is not a world class bowler but is getting there.

    All the top teams has one or two world class batsman. Real match winners. We don't have any. England have Joe Root as their world class batsman and Morgan and co who are match winners. West Indies have Gayle etc and India have.... you get the point.

    Kindly watch a recent interview of Imran's in India from a few days ago and he nails this point.

    A lot of you in your heads think we have world class or match winning players.

    We don't.

    Temperament also goes along way in making a world class player as does consistency. Imran had it, Waqar had it, Miandad had it, Wasim had it.

    Afridi is a prime example at the sort of mediocrity and inconsistency that the Pakistani public has wholeheartedly accepted over the last ten years.

    Younis Khan was a good player but not world class. Yusuf the same.

    We made them out to be world class just to make ourselves feel good. They were very good players but not good enough to make us the best of the best.

    There are no world class or potentially world class players coming through in Pakistan. Domestic cricket is dead and the spin bowlers either chuck the ball and the batsmen are lacking in technique, you wouldn't believe.
    Last edited by Warrior; 27th March 2016 at 03:40.

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    I agree that we don't have any world class player right now. Our bowling attack was overrated.

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    'They were very good players but not good enough to make us the best of the best.'

    Very well said this, it has weight and can be debatable. Our best is yet to come.

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    Younis Khan and Yousaf are world class players. We just need to find our own Kohli, smith, williamson or root.

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    Younis and Yousuf are world class mate. Younis is bad in ODIs though


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    Younis Khan and Yousaf are world class players. We just need to find our own Kohli, smith, williamson or root.
    Yousif isn't playing anymore. YK was only world class in tests. If you ask me, we have never really produced a batsman of the level of Kohli.

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    Younis and Yousaf were World class players. Junaid Khan is a World class player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Younis and Yousuf are world class mate. Younis is bad in ODIs though
    No I disagree.

    They are world class in your book not mine.

    Zaheer Abbas and Miandad were world class not Younis and Yousuf. My benchmark for world class is very high.

    Anyway this thread isn't about them two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohaib Shah View Post
    Younis and Yousaf were World class players. Junaid Khan is a World class player.
    Junaid Khan world class?

    I'm sure I'm not the only one rolling on the floor laughing after reading that.

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    What is the biggest problem?


    Frank Skinner: Pakistan looked better than this when they were trying to lose.

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    The second biggest problem is that we don't have world class players? Whats the first biggest problem then?

    Maybe this is the problem identification that results from all these PCB panels. "Our extensive investigations reveal that we lack world class players in our team. We have concluded that this is the reason why we are not performing well."

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    We have world class player in afridi. It's a shame so many people underestimate his value to the team

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    We all know what the first biggest problem is. It's been discussed over the last few days.

    I don't want to set off the explicit language triggers on PP if I start talking about it.

    You can read clean language versions in other threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    Yousif isn't playing anymore. YK was only world class in tests. If you ask me, we have never really produced a batsman of the level of Kohli.
    Completely agree, I was going to say a similar thing regarding not producing a batsman at the level of Kohli in my original post.

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    ... 3rd biggest is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    ... 3rd biggest is?
    This thread is discussing the 2nd biggest problem not the 3rd.

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    In other news, the sky is blue today as well.... grass expected to be green tomorrow

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    There is an even bigger problem : we produce good talent every now and there & if we groom them well, invest in them, improve their skills & adjust their technics they can become one of the best in the world. But again, our system is so corrupt that nobody wants to invest in any player. If a player performs well good for him, if he faces any issues, drop him because its all his problem & HIS only.
    Look what happend to Nasir Jamshed, he was on his way to become the next Saed Anwar but as soon as he started struggling he was all on his own. He should have been helped by coaches, mentored correctly, retrained in camps etc... BUT NO.

    Junaid Khan, Sohaib Maqssod, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq & many other talented players have been victims of this bad system of coaching and mentoring.

    Next on the list are : Babar Azam, Sharjeel Khan, Harris Sohail, Mohammad Amir, Rizwan, Imad Wasm.
    All of these have the potential to become world class, but they probably never will because they won't be groomed & mentored as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    Yousif isn't playing anymore. YK was only world class in tests. If you ask me, we have never really produced a batsman of the level of Kohli.
    Loool I know that he's retired but I just wanted to state the obvious. The closest batsman we've had who had the same consistency as Kohli was probably Saeed Anwar or Zaheer Abbass. Other than that we haven't produced many at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Younis and Yousuf are world class mate. Younis is bad in ODIs though
    Yousaf was one. He has won or drawn gamea on his own. Meanwhile younis only fieasted tons over flat tracks and easy oppositions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    Loool I know that he's retired but I just wanted to state the obvious. The closest batsman we've had who had the same consistency as Kohli was probably Saeed Anwar or Zaheer Abbass. Other than that we haven't produced many at all.
    We had that sense of reliability when Inzi was on song.

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    and....

    Amir is over rated: 4 matches, 15 overs, 3 wickets, avg 40, econ almost 8
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    We lacked 2 specialist spinners. Dont over analyze. Heck even nz bowled what 15 overs of spin yesterday? They even opened the bowling with a spinner.

    Imad when he came in vs nz and aus was able to contain both teams. Imagine 2 specialist spinners instead of 2 pacers.

    Would be chasing around 160 in last 2 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post

    Younis Khan was a good player but not world class. Yusuf the same.

    We made them out to be world class just to make ourselves feel good. They were very good players but not good enough to make us the best of the best.

    There are no world class or potentially world class players coming through in Pakistan. Domestic cricket is dead and the spin bowlers either chuck the ball and the batsmen are lacking in technique, you wouldn't believe.

    What did we do is made horrific characters, who could care less for the country, our chief batsmen and start giving them unreasonable, unwanted credit. Point is that to have batsmen like Root, Amla etc, you need to start with players like YK and Yousuf(who play for scoring runs for their team,not for fame or money) and specifically groom them inspite of our domestic. Talent and stroke making ability is secondary to having dignity and honesty enough to atleast make player play for the team and not chicken out.

    Shafiq and Alam are two players like this currently, i am sure will find more if someone wants to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anakin View Post
    and....

    Amir is over rated: 4 matches, 15 overs, 3 wickets, avg 40, econ almost 8
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    Where is Ashwin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Of The Stars View Post
    Where is Ashwin?
    One game remaining bro...

    All Indian trundlers did better than an ATG

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    Younis is a good batsman, not world class by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anakin View Post
    One game remaining bro...

    All Indian trundlers did better than an ATG

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    22 runs from his first over

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    Quote Originally Posted by anakin View Post
    One game remaining bro...

    All Indian trundlers did better than an ATG

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    Not all, you got this wrong.

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    All the problems of fitness , politics , bad selection and grouping were there in the past as well but back then we had worldclass players hence we used to win more than lose now days we lack quality cricketers hence the decline.

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