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  1. #81
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    Mixed opnions it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL_Fan View Post
    What has probably let him down thus far is going for one too many shots. Even when he's in he tends to give it away lot of the time. Just a single 150+ score in 70 odd innings. He's capable of much more than that.
    This more than anything else.

    He's basically a very attacking batsman in LOIs and it doesn't come natural for him to grind out scores in Test cricket. He has improved his temperament very much in Tests, still you will see that he is more of a free flowing batsman who likes to play his shots and ends up perishing a few times in the process by playing one shot too many.

    Just see the highlights of India's last match at Lord's and compare the approaches of Pujara and Kohli in the 1st innings, you will see the difference. Kohli made a quick 25 on that greentop and he actually looked majestic with some eye catching shots. But it was not chance less even before he was finally dismissed. In comparison, Pujara didn't make much runs higher than Kohli's score but he batted resolutely for 20 overs on that green pitch and was dismissed only by a jaffa. I hope Kohli shows more patience in the upcoming season.
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    He'll go down as the greatest batsman in every format of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Whenever Indians score runs the pitch is easy.LOL.

    And while England is a challenge where he has failed,Pakistan is not a benchmark for comparision of Asian batsmen.Kohli may never play a test vs Pakistan ever and still be a ATG.
    You have a right to your opinion, but we're THE team to beat and perform against in Test arena.

    Ask Australia, England, etl al. White wash after white wash, Kohli needs to pass this benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    You have a right to your opinion, but we're THE team to beat and perform against in Test arena.

    Ask Australia, England, etl al. White wash after white wash, Kohli needs to pass this benchmark.
    You are team to beat....On PP that is.


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    I don't see why not, he has all the tools and the drive to succeed

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    Tests or LOIs: Kohli is a world class batsman!

    What a player this guy is! Have been playing T20s all year and come the Test cricket he scores an important ton!

    Is he already the best allround batsman across all formats?


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    Will be an elite test player. Only fools would deny this!

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    This is beastly stuff. I can't take ny more


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    One knock, and the hype guns are out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Of The Stars View Post
    One knock, and the hype guns are out.
    I agree with this.

    Kohli still needs to show more consistency. He should score this way for a few years before he is considered a Champion Test batsman.

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    Ends day 1 @ 143*
    Probably one of his best knocks in test cricket. Was worth staying up late.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Ends day 1 @ 143*
    Probably one of his best knocks in test cricket. Was worth staying up late.
    He had better knocks against Aus and Kiwis.

    Virat was not tested at all today. Boring bowling and defensive fielding.

    Kohli should be disappointed if he does not score 200 against these lallu bowlers.

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    Great knock day.

    This is IMPACT.

    Need Kohli to do more of this in Asia and ATG is there for the taking.


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    He always had the game, it's important he stays there instead of over attacking and throwing his wicket which he did in previous tours after scoring a century.


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    Put his name in a box, dig up a hole in the ground and bury it. Great player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Great knock day.

    This is IMPACT.

    Need Kohli to do more of this in Asia and ATG is there for the taking.
    He will brother. Rahane, Kohli, KL. Your test match batting is comfortable and solid for 5-10 years!

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    He is growing from strength to strength with every passing match.. So glad he is in our team

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    Wow kohli does it again. As a neutral spectator watching him bat is a treat. Yoy know he will punish anything loose. This guy is ridiculously good.


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    It is against WI. I will wait for tougher opponent to label him "good" in test.

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    No one would talk about weak opponents or flat pitches :Misbah

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    He's having quite an incredible year across all formats.

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    he will surely gona be 1 of the greatest indian test batman along with Sachin Dravid gavaskar Laxman but whether he will be as good as dravid or sachin time will say


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    He is a machine, getting better every season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    It is against WI. I will wait for tougher opponent to label him "good" in test.
    Strange, not much attention towards this comment


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    Quote Originally Posted by #GreenRoars View Post
    Strange, not much attention towards this comment
    Maybe because he has already proven himself against tougher opponents.

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    hard to say because he hasn't been amazing in tests and doesn't have a pressure knock that defines a player.. He usually gets runs but can't remember him making a hundred in a testing condition or when the chips were down.. just a regular run getter so far..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sivaji View Post
    hard to say because he hasn't been amazing in tests and doesn't have a pressure knock that defines a player.. He usually gets runs but can't remember him making a hundred in a testing condition or when the chips were down.. just a regular run getter so far..
    His hundred in South Africa was a masterclass when the pitch was a paradise for pace bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    His hundred in South Africa was a masterclass when the pitch was a paradise for pace bowling.
    it wasn't a paradise for bowling.. it was a flat pitch with nothing in for fast bowlers. SA even got over 400 in the last innings. Lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by sivaji View Post
    it wasn't a paradise for bowling.. it was a flat pitch with nothing in for fast bowlers. SA even got over 400 in the last innings. Lols
    You do know that pitches flatten out? SA were bundled for 244 in their first.

    Also Adelaide 2nd innings - pure dust bowl.

    Bangalore test against NZ - great pitch for seamers. Southee 7 for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geraltofrivia View Post
    You do know that pitches flatten out? SA were bundled for 244 in their first.

    Also Adelaide 2nd innings - pure dust bowl.

    Bangalore test against NZ - great pitch for seamers. Southee 7 for.
    it was a flat pitch with nothing in for the bowlers and SA not being good enough doesn't change the fact. It was not a masterclass innings(lol how easily people call any knock a masterclass lol) and it wasn't a bowlers' paradise.

    The Australian pitches were all flat with lots of tons..

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    He has played some decent innings.. none of them masterclass.. Masterclass is something like the one KP played against SA, SL or India or the one M Clarke played in SA..

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    Whenever an Indian batsman scores runs, the pitch automatically become flat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sivaji View Post
    He has played some decent innings.. none of them masterclass.. Masterclass is something like the one KP played against SA, SL or India or the one M Clarke played in SA..
    Adelaide 4th innings chase was a masterclass.

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    What's the surprise here. Flatness of pitch has always been determined by the amount of runs Kohli scores.

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    This pitch wasn't that flat imo. Was a bit slow and low but kohli made batting look easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sivaji View Post
    it wasn't a paradise for bowling.. it was a flat pitch with nothing in for fast bowlers. SA even got over 400 in the last innings. Lols
    Would be a good idea if you educate yourself before posting these embarrassing Lols.

    Point is, the ball was swinging miles and Kohli countered that very well. First 2-3 days were the only challenging batting days in that series, and Kohli came out the best batsman from both sides.

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    AB, Virat and Smith will go down as ATG when they retire. Root and Williamson may fall sort for quite a few reasons not going their way.

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    There is a good possibility root will up end scoring more runs than Virat coz of the number of test matches england play in general Unless Virat becomes absolutely gun like Sanga's last 5 years i dont see him going over 10k runs in tests


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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman_DB View Post
    There is a good possibility root will up end scoring more runs than Virat coz of the number of test matches england play in general Unless Virat becomes absolutely gun like Sanga's last 5 years i dont see him going over 10k runs in tests
    English batsman in last few decades have regressed from brilliant to good after 6-7 years of cricket.They dont seem to carry that huge run scoring form.Thats the reason that for 50 years almost no english batsman has retired with a test avg of 50.Root may go the same way.


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    Batting avg is now 46.2

    By end of this tour I hope he finishes around 48 with home season coming up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Batting avg is now 46.2

    By end of this tour I hope he finishes around 48 with home season coming up.


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    And then it will fall back to 46 on our turners.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sivaji View Post
    He has played some decent innings.. none of them masterclass.. Masterclass is something like the one KP played against SA, SL or India or the one M Clarke played in SA..
    Ian Chappell rates Kohli's Adelaide effort as the best 4th innings knock he has ever seen. Enough said.

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    He has all the qualities to become one.. It all depends upon how much hunger he has. I can still see him scoring 12000 plus with 35 plus centuries at 55 average.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    English batsman in last few decades have regressed from brilliant to good after 6-7 years of cricket.They dont seem to carry that huge run scoring form.Thats the reason that for 50 years almost no english batsman has retired with a test avg of 50.Root may go the same way.
    Cook? He might end up his career with a 13k plus runs and a 50 average


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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman_DB View Post
    Cook? He might end up his career with a 13k plus runs and a 50 average
    He hasnt touched 50 for like years.He has been avging in mid to late 40s.Just like KP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    He hasnt touched 50 for like years.He has been avging in mid to late 40s.Just like KP.
    he is an opener hence its bit more difficult and he was going through a slump 2013-2014 now he looks good to take his average into late 40s


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    AB, Virat and Smith will go down as ATG when they retire. Root and Williamson may fall sort for quite a few reasons not going their way.
    I'd replace AB and Kohli with Root and Williamson if we're talking about Tests.

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    If Virat Kohli announces retirement in the next 1 hour,He will still retire as a 2nd tier ATG and will finish way ahead of others in that next tier like Saeed Anwar,Richie Richardson,Dilip Vengsarkar etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman_DB View Post
    he is an opener hence its bit more difficult and he was going through a slump 2013-2014 now he looks good to take his average into late 40s
    So now opener in late 40s equal to 50s?Lets see what he does.I doubt he will finish his career with a avg of 50.


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    I think he will score at least 3 centuries this series.I expect more than three.


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    Ashwin is living on the edge.


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    First double century for him in any first class cricket and first double by an India captain overseas


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    hope gets few more in the next 15 tests


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    Kohli will get 300 for sure

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    next target 250 and after that if can accelerate surely a 300 on the cards


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    Kohli can wallop to 50 avg, within this season, if he continues like this

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    It would be a disaster if Kohli didn't average 50 plus in test cricket. Think he will though

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    He will.. too gun a player not to get there. its just a matter of time. Might happen by the end of this season considering they're playing a lot of tests

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    what a missed opportunity could have score few more nevertheless hope its just the start of scoring runs in bulk


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    Relatively much easier to become an all time great batsmen in an era with only a handful quality fast bowlers around and having wickets and rules in favor of batsmen. Kohli never had to face pre ban Asif And Amir at neutral venues in a test match. Their absence definitely helped a lot of batsmen in establishing their credentials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Relatively much easier to become an all time great batsmen in an era with only a handful quality fast bowlers around and having wickets and rules in favor of batsmen. Kohli never had to face pre ban Asif And Amir at neutral venues in a test match. Their absence definitely helped a lot of batsmen in establishing their credentials.
    While i agree that fast bowling stocks are not what it was in 90s and early to mmid 2000s,Fast bowling doesnt finish with Amir and Asif.

    There are the likes of Steyn,Philander,Morkel,Boult,Harris,Starc,Johnson etc againist whom Kohli has score runs.And is likely that in future he will set his record versus Anderson and Broad right as well.And anyways both Amir and Asif are massively hyped on PP as second coming of Wasim and Waqar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    I'd replace AB and Kohli with Root and Williamson if we're talking about Tests.
    Not any particular format just on whole in terms of stature.

    Root is a bit hit and miss and I am not too sure of him but Imo he will most likely reach the level of Cook or KP.

    Williamson lacks the aura and doesn't have the stature like those three.

    Anyways, its a prediction.They have long way to go. Nobody knows where they will end up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Relatively much easier to become an all time great batsmen in an era with only a handful quality fast bowlers around and having wickets and rules in favor of batsmen. Kohli never had to face pre ban Asif And Amir at neutral venues in a test match. Their absence definitely helped a lot of batsmen in establishing their credentials.
    How many of them are ATGs in the so called easier era for batting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    What's the surprise here. Flatness of pitch has always been determined by the amount of runs Kohli scores.
    Then why is he not scoring in WI where even Ashwin and Saha are scoring 100s?

    No harm in accepting that he might not be as good in tests as he is in LOIs.

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    Another poor inning from Kohli - still several leagues below Tendulkar, Dravid, Sehwag, Laxman, Rahane, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Then why is he not scoring in WI where even Ashwin and Saha are scoring 100s?

    No harm in accepting that he might not be as good in tests as he is in LOIs.
    ???
    He scored a double in the first match and 44 in the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Then why is he not scoring in WI where even Ashwin and Saha are scoring 100s?

    No harm in accepting that he might not be as good in tests as he is in LOIs.
    You realise he changed his batting position and came up to accomodate FTB talent Rohit Sharma.Changing of batting position effects a batsman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geraltofrivia View Post
    ???
    He scored a double in the first match and 44 in the next.
    If that's the best he can do against weaker opposition teams in his prime, then I am afraid he is way below the likes of Root and Williamson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    You realise he changed his batting position and came up to accomodate FTB talent Rohit Sharma.Changing of batting position effects a batsman.
    Is not he a natural #3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    If that's the best he can do against weaker opposition teams in his prime, then I am afraid he is way below the likes of Root and Williamson.
    Please tell me you're trolling. What else a batsman can do apart from hitting a double hundred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    If that's the best he can do against weaker opposition teams in his prime, then I am afraid he is way below the likes of Root and Williamson.
    Neither Williamson nor Root have a double hundred in the WI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Is not he a natural #3?
    No. Pujara is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Is not he a natural #3?
    Nopes.He bats no.4 in tests.Tendulkar's position.Brave of him to bat no.3 to give Rohit Sharma a chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geraltofrivia View Post
    No. Pujara is.
    But he is one of the greatest #3 in ODIs. How come he is not good for #3 in tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    But he is one of the greatest #3 in ODIs. How come he is not good for #3 in tests?
    Tendulkar is one of the greatest ODI openers ever,arguably the greatest.Yet he batted no.4 in tests.Test and ODIs are different beasts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandeep View Post
    Please tell me you're trolling. What else a batsman can do apart from hitting a double hundred?
    Don't get me wrong. I am a big Kohli fan. He is probably the best batsman in the world but it is frustrating to see him having no impact in any test series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Tendulkar is one of the greatest ODI openers ever,arguably the greatest.Yet he batted no.4 in tests.Test and ODIs are different beasts.
    That's why a large number of fans rate Dravid higher because #3 is the toughest batting position in tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I am a big Kohli fan. He is probably the best batsman in the world but it is frustrating to see him having no impact in any test series.
    His double hundred resulted in a victory. What else can he do better, you tell me

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    Barring that double century, Kohli was mediocre in this series.


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