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    @Mamoon, how is Younis Knock a supporting role Knock to Yousuf in those games? He batted up the order and had to battle up against the conditions and the bowling attack and then get going while Moyo batted down the order and came to bat after Butt and Yoni made up for the early breakthroughs in that MCG game.Again in the England series, those knocks weren't supporting roles just because Yousuf scored 20-30 runs more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Context? What context? How much context? Stats can and will never be able to truly capture or describe what goes on the field.

    Watching the game doesn't equate to knowing what's actually happening on the field.
    And just because you know few technicalities of the game doesn't give you the right to deride other's knowledge of cricket.
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    The great player like him needs to be 10000 club list and more .
    Good luck Mr. Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim2Good View Post
    just because Mamoon said so ?
    No, that is my opinion + the general consensus.

    Ask on PP what the best Test innings in Australia has been by a Pakistani batsman in the last 15 years, almost everyone will pick MoYo's 111 at the MCG.

    Not just PP but ask on any cricketing website.

    Same goes for MoYo's innings at Leeds and Lord's. They overshadowed Younis Khan's performance in that series.

    If you are in the very small minority that thinks that Younis Khan's 87 at the MCG was better than MoYo's 111, well then that is your opinion and I respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    @Mamoon, how is Younis Knock a supporting role Knock to Yousuf in those games? He batted up the order and had to battle up against the conditions and the bowling attack and then get going while Moyo batted down the order and came to bat after Butt and Yoni made up for the early breakthroughs in that MCG game.Again in the England series, those knocks weren't supporting roles just because Yousuf scored 20-30 runs more.
    It is not about him scoring 20-30 more runs, it is about the fact that while Younis' innings were about survival, MoYo put on a show and dominated the opposition.

    This is where Younis lags behind batsmen like Moyo and Inzamam. He has never been a dominant player.

    Also, this is the reason why MoYo's knocks in Australia and England are more memorable even though Younis has better average in Australia.

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    Thread toh hit ho gayi.

    And this is before the series even started. Wait till YK smashes Broad and Andy (if he doesn't chicken out) all around the park, much to the disgust of a few PAK fans.

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    Smashing pacers is beyond his capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastManstanding View Post
    And just because you know few technicalities of the game doesn't give you the right to deride other's knowledge of cricket.
    Majority of PPers have neither played the game at decent level nor watched enough, but it will be idiotic to talk about it when I discuss something with others. I played cricket at decent level and followed game closely from late 80s/early 90s. Specially after SA started playing.

    What's going on the field comment cracked me up. Are you taking those comments seriously, lol. Just ignore.


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    Younis proving many wrong already, and this is just the practice match!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Younis proving many wrong already, and this is just the practice match!
    InshAllah he will perform better than this against England main team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Younis proving many wrong already, and this is just the practice match!
    He did well today I will give him credit. But come on bro it's a 2nd eleven attack. Lets wait till he has played the 1st test before getting over excited

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    He deserves credit for today but I'm still not optasmistic he will do well in England. Hope he proves me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He did well today I will give him credit. But come on bro it's a 2nd eleven attack. Lets wait till he has played the 1st test before getting over excited
    Against the same 2nd eleven attack...

    Misbah anda.

    Hafeez & Azhar flopped.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Against the same 2nd eleven attack...

    Misbah anda.

    Hafeez & Azhar flopped.

    Azhar made sure the ball was softer and easier for Younis don't forget that.

    Yes they flopped but not everyone is going to score you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Azhar made sure the ball was softer and easier for Younis don't forget that.

    Yes they flopped but not everyone is going to score you know.
    Yeah, but why undermine the one who did score?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Yeah, but why undermine the one who did score?
    I said he did well bro, I'm not just getting to excited about it. If he had to come in when the ball is new against Broad and Jimmy I wouldn't be confident he could survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I said he did well bro, I'm not just getting to excited about it. If he had to come in when the ball is new against Broad and Jimmy I wouldn't be confident he could survive.
    Strange for people to get excited over Misbah doing well. More such days to come for Younis detractors. Too good a player to miss out. When has he ever failed in Test cricket?

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    So how many innocent spinners did Younis khan beat up today?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Strange for people to get excited over Misbah doing well. More such days to come for Younis detractors. Too good a player to miss out. When has he ever failed in Test cricket?

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    Younis has failed in test matches before don't act like he's perfect. There are some people who just don't like him I don't hate him I just think he has weakness in his batting that haven't been exposed because of playing in the UAE for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Younis has failed in test matches before don't act like he's perfect. There are some people who just don't like him I don't hate him I just think he has weakness in his batting that haven't been exposed because of playing in the UAE for so long.
    When has he? I can't even remember the last series where Younis Khan failed to contribute to our cause.

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    Hopefully YK will continue this form. Fact is he has got runs in England before (2006) and he's arguably a better player now. I'm confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    When has he? I can't even remember the last series where Younis Khan failed to contribute to our cause.

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    South Africa 2013. He struggled for most of it barring the centruy he made which was a good knock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    South Africa 2013. He struggled for most of it barring the centruy he made which was a good knock.
    You expect him to score a century in every other match (which he usually does btw)? Why not the same filters for Misbah who you are willing to give an entire series to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    You expect him to score a century in every other match (which he usually does btw)? Why not the same filters for Misbah who you are willing to give an entire series to?

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    No I don't expect him to score a century every match but if he is as good as people make out he shouldbe our top run scorer in this series.

    Misbah is the captain he will get the full series weather I want him dropped or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I said he did well bro, I'm not just getting to excited about it. If he had to come in when the ball is new against Broad and Jimmy I wouldn't be confident he could survive.
    Lol no point in discussing ifs and buts.

    Fact is, Younis can only score against what's put in front of him and he did that, while others got low scores (bar Asad).

    Yes, it remains to be seen how he does in the actual series but this is definitely a good start.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    No I don't expect him to score a century every match but if he is as good as people make out he shouldbe our top run scorer in this series.

    Misbah is the captain he will get the full series weather I want him dropped or not.
    He has been one of the top scorers from either side in most of the series we have played.

    There is absolutely no logic in writing off a legend like YK and promoting Misbah/Azhar as better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Lol no point in discussing ifs and buts.

    Fact is, Younis can only score against what's put in front of him and he did that, while others got low scores (bar Asad).

    Yes, it remains to be seen how he does in the actual series but this is definitely a good start.
    Brilliant start from him tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    He has been one of the top scorers from either side in most of the series we have played.

    There is absolutely no logic in writing off a legend like YK and promoting Misbah/Azhar as better than him.

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    That is in the past broad and Anderson will find weakness in your techniques so let's hope he is at his best.

    I never said Azhar and misbah was better than Younis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    That is in the past broad and Anderson will find weakness in your techniques so let's hope he is at his best.

    I never said Azhar and misbah was better than Younis
    Re-read some of the posts of Younis' detractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Re-read some of the posts of Younis' detractors.

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    I haven't found many who have said Azhar and misbah are better players than Younis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I haven't found many who have said Azhar and misbah are better players than Younis
    Then I guess you revisit earlier threads where Azhar, Misbah and Shafiq are being championed while this guy is being knocked down consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msb314 View Post
    The only thing pathetic I see going on is Misbah playing far past his expiry date despite having been a mediocre player in every format of the game when he steps out of the UAE.

    A poor tactician, a poor match winner and a worse captain.

    He is now doing nothing but holding back the development of Babar and Haris...
    Nonsense to say he's a poor tactician. He virtually talked Saeed Ajmal through every ball in the crucial penultimate over against South Africa in the 2nd ODI in 2013 that won us win a series in SA for the first time ever.

    A poor tactician doesn't lead his domestic teams to numerous tournament victories. His captaining of spinners has generally been excellent as was his captaincy defending low totals in the 2015 WC.

    This forum can be infuriating when people with little understanding of the game throw out unsubstianted, blanket statements like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Then I guess you revisit earlier threads where Azhar, Misbah and Shafiq are being championed while this guy is being knocked down consistently.

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    Think people don't like attitude and antics that's why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Think people don't like attitude and antics that's why
    Two completely different things. Performance should never be judged on the basis of attitude. Younis Khan has a pretty bad attitude problem, but I will never doubt his credentials as a Test batsman.

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    Younis is 1 run away from his 53rd first-class hundred and is closing in on 16,000 first-class runs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Two completely different things. Performance should never be judged on the basis of attitude. Younis Khan has a pretty bad attitude problem, but I will never doubt his credentials as a Test batsman.

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    True but it can put some people off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Nonsense to say he's a poor tactician. He virtually talked Saeed Ajmal through every ball in the crucial penultimate over against South Africa in the 2nd ODI in 2013 that won us win a series in SA for the first time ever.

    A poor tactician doesn't lead his domestic teams to numerous tournament victories. His captaining of spinners has generally been excellent as was his captaincy defending low totals in the 2015 WC.

    This forum can be infuriating when people with little understanding of the game throw out unsubstianted, blanket statements like that.
    A few games here and there do not make a good tactician.

    A good tactician should also have the capability to plan for the future which Misbah severely lacked.

    Why did Azhar suddenly become captain after the WC - when he had not even been in the squad for 2 years?

    Why did it take so long for Haris to make his ODI debut when our middle order had been ailing for so long with the likes Amin, Asad Shafiq consistenly playing in our ODI starting XI?

    Why did Yasir not debut earlier when Ajmal was at his peak instead of playing mediocrity like Abdur Rehman?

    Why is Misbah pushing for the selection of Iftikhar Ahmed in our Test XI?

    Regarding the WC - the only low total we defended that could be attributed to Misbah's captaincy was the game vs SAF (even then his poor batting was the reason we got to a low total in the first place). We were miserably poor against Zimbabwe and only got bailed out due to Wahab. Quite frankly, we outbatted UAE and Ireland in games where Misbah did next to nothing and were won due to Shehzad, Sarfraz, Haris and Maqsood's contributions. The less said about the India game the better..

    Misbah did get it right by playing 4 pacers for most of the WC but his defensive field settings were questionable at best. He should have taken the batting powerplays much earlier in several games including the QF vs Australia. As a batsman, he should have been batting at 3 or 4 throughout the WC and accelerated once settled in rather than hide at number 5.

    All in all - our ODI team greatly regressed under him. For those who point out Maqsood, Umer Akmal and Shehzad's loss of form being the reasons - it is the captains responsibility to motivate his players and spend time with them to develop their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It is not about him scoring 20-30 more runs, it is about the fact that while Younis' innings were about survival, MoYo put on a show and dominated the opposition.

    This is where Younis lags behind batsmen like Moyo and Inzamam. He has never been a dominant player.

    Also, this is the reason why MoYo's knocks in Australia and England are more memorable even though Younis has better average in Australia.
    since when strike rate of 60 in test matches have become "innings of survival"? and that too when we are talking about 10 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No, that is my opinion + the general consensus.

    Ask on PP what the best Test innings in Australia has been by a Pakistani batsman in the last 15 years, almost everyone will pick MoYo's 111 at the MCG.

    Not just PP but ask on any cricketing website.

    Same goes for MoYo's innings at Leeds and Lord's. They overshadowed Younis Khan's performance in that series.

    If you are in the very small minority that thinks that Younis Khan's 87 at the MCG was better than MoYo's 111, well then that is your opinion and I respect that.
    I am not arguing about whose innings was better, all I am pointing about YK's healthy contribution from other side as well when MY played those innings which you are trying hard to play down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim2Good View Post
    since when strike rate of 60 in test matches have become "innings of survival"? and that too when we are talking about 10 years ago
    Younis didn't dominate the best bowlers like MoYo. I hope you can recall their performances against Warne.

    Younis was looking to survive while MoYo took him on.

    Barring one or two instances, Younis has not been able to score many runs against pacers.

    I'm not interesting in a statistical discussion, but if we talk stats, Younis' average of 30 against pacers overseas tells us a story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim2Good View Post
    I am not arguing about whose innings was better, all I am pointing about YK's healthy contribution from other side as well when MY played those innings which you are trying hard to play down.
    I'm not playing them down. My point is that in all of these countries, MoYo ended up playing better and more iconic knocks.

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    Ton coming up soon.

    Watch this space.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Ton coming up soon.

    Watch this space.
    Agree!

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    He is ready to give a shut up silence call to his critics with his ton in 3rd Test.


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    Inshallah he returns to form. But honestly not too hopeful but I said before on other threads and this one that he would struggle on this tour. Please prove me wrong Younis!!!!

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    Will act like a kangaroo again this time around.

    Hopefully the Younis chapter ends with this series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Will act like a kangaroo again this time around.

    Hopefully the Younis chapter ends with this series.
    Wrong.

    Instead, he will own the kangaroos come December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Will act like a kangaroo again this time around.

    Hopefully the Younis chapter ends with this series.
    No, he should play Aus series.


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    YK has scored 9 runs off 35 balls so far. He needs to get on. The new ball will be due in 4 overs. If he fails to score today, then it means he is done as a batsman at the international level.


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    The record is in doubt unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by #GreenRoars View Post
    No, he should play Aus series.
    I think if he doesn't score a couple of hundreds in this series he will probably retire because he has looked out of his depth in these conditions thus far, I do feel like he got a couple of big knocks left in him and god willing he can go big and score some runs for the benefit of Pakistan in this series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Will act like a kangaroo again this time around.

    Hopefully the Younis chapter ends with this series.
    Stop hating. Younis deserves to score 10000 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    Stop hating. Younis deserves to score 10000 runs.
    No he doesn't. We don't have to agree on which players to like and dislike.

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    Alright guys, he's boutta go big iA.

    Watch this space. He will dance his way to a ton which will basically ensure a PAK victory.


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    Younus is averaging Afridi-esque 23 in this series. He is finished. Was never a good player of pace, now reflexes are gone as well. Must retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Alright guys, he's boutta go big iA.

    Watch this space. He will dance his way to a ton which will basically ensure a PAK victory.
    Was right once again, albeit a Test later.

    What a knock. Haters can keep hating but this champ is getting 10k.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tera Gawaandi View Post
    Younus is averaging Afridi-esque 23 in this series. He is finished. Was never a good player of pace, now reflexes are gone as well. Must retire.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Will act like a kangaroo again this time around.

    Hopefully the Younis chapter ends with this series.


    Ok.


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    1 more please
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    1 more please
    His real age must be 41 , so in reality he may already have scored more.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    His real age must be 41 , so in reality he may already have scored more.

    But for records Official Age counts


    Won't be surprisef if He is 5 years elder than his official age

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    He is approaching 10 K fast

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    544 to get. Hope he gets it before the Australia series.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    544 to get. Hope he gets it before the Australia series.
    When are the Tests vs WI scheduled? and Younis Khan has a decent chance of getting to the record before AUS with a series to play against NZ to

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    When are the Tests vs WI scheduled? and Younis Khan has a decent chance of getting to the record before AUS with a series to play against NZ to
    I don't know , most probably in October.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    I don't know , most probably in October.
    why? what's the point of that, my studies start then

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    Well Younis bhai seems to be back.

    Let's see how many runs he can muster up in the next 2 Tests, before flying to NZ.

    Hopefully he gets around 300-350 against WI so he has a remote chance of reaching 10k in NZ.


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    256 RUNS LEFT!!!

    Heading in to the MCG Test.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    256 RUNS LEFT!!!

    Heading in to the MCG Test.
    It'd be great if he can get to that in front of a packed MCG crowd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    It'd be great if he can get to that in front of a packed MCG crowd.
    Yeah but it seems unlikely it would still be a great achievement to get it at SCG.


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    Hopefully he gets it in this series.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    I hate it when people/players put themselves ahead of country or team. YK is one prime example, should have retired 2 years ago. This 10 K should not have cost Pakistan team match after match.

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    Will go the Chanderpaul way..

    Lack of selflessness for record sake coupled with an underwhelming overseas record because of his struggle vs quality pace attack puts him in the same tier as Chanderpaul and a level below Miandad/ Dravid/ Sanga among Asian batsmen.

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    I respect Younis Khan a lot. He has played 204 innings and has scored 9765 runs.

    BTW, the fastest to 10,000 Test runs are Sachin and Lara. Amazingly, they both achieved the feat in exactly 195 innings each.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    I respect Younis Khan a lot. He has played 204 innings and has scored 9765 runs.

    BTW, the fastest to 10,000 Test runs are Sachin and Lara. Amazingly, they both achieved the feat in exactly 195 innings each.
    Oh, Sangakkara as well. He too reached 10,000 runs in exactly 195 Test innings. Ponting achieved it in 196 Test innings.


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    Younis is easily one of the best test batsmen of all time. His ability to play spin is second to none........wow.


    What a player he really is. A true legend of this beautiful game. ✌️✌️

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    I hate it when people/players put themselves ahead of country or team. YK is one prime example, should have retired 2 years ago. This 10 K should not have cost Pakistan team match after match.

    Yeah than not only in our dreams we would have become World Number 1 Test Team for few days.

    2 years ago ? Do you know he averages 55 plus in Test Cricket in last two years ?


    Ohhhh what a treat that double hundred was ? We would have lost that series isn't it ?


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    235 Runs in 3 innings needed which means 1 innings of 150 plus.

    Difficult but not impossible.


    Come on Younis


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    I respect Younis Khan a lot. He has played 204 innings and has scored 9765 runs.

    BTW, the fastest to 10,000 Test runs are Sachin and Lara. Amazingly, they both achieved the feat in exactly 195 innings each.
    With his recent performance, YK is earning more respect in India and losing in Pakistan, wonder why

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    Just to get to 10 K runs if you tarnish your legacy , its not worth it.

    Go with your head high.

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    Can he finally get there today?


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    PCB will want at least one batsman to be in 10 runs club.


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