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    Wriddhiman Saha - Indian wicket-keeper batsman

    PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad): Wriddhiman Saha has impressed everyone with his neat glovework in the West Indies. He has also contributed handily with the bat, with his maiden century in the third Test at St. Lucia helping India get out of trouble on way to a facile victory.

    The India wicketkeeper received fulsome praise from former West Indies opener Philo Wallace who called Saha 'the best wicketkeeper in the world right now.' "I'm very impressed with Saha and I think he is the best," Wallace, who was also an occasional wicketkeeper himself, told a group of Indian mediapersons.

    Other than Saha's prowess behind the stumps, Wallace is also impressed by the way his career was handled by the cricket board (BCCI), the selectors and the player himself during the six-year period of him being understudy to MS Dhoni. "It was a pretty long wait for Saha as Dhoni was there. But I'm impressed that he was told that his time would come and he waited without losing patience and today he is reaping the rewards," Wallace said. "A lot of times, if a player has to wait for too long, he may lose focus or interest and his career would go down," he added.

    He also felt that Indian cricket has benefitted from BCCI's move to involve former greats in the running of the game. "Your board has put in place a system and involved people like Tendulkar, Ganguly and Laxman. They picked Anil Kumble as coach but most of the support staff from Ravi Shastri's time have been retained which helps maintain continuity."

    Wallace, who played for West Indies in the late 1990s, rued the fact that cricket in West Indies was suffering because of ad hocism and lack of professionalism in the administration as well as in the running of the team. And he agreed with the notion that as far as Test cricket was concerned, Caribbean players were short of skill and attitude.

    "The players should have more pride in their performance. And they should pick the best players to play for West indies. Look how Alzarri Joseph was dropped for this Test (in Port of Spain). He was the most aggressive bowler in the West Indies camp in St. Lucia and bowled fast and in the right areas. The next match, you drop the young man. What will it do to his morale?" Wallace asked.

    http://m.timesofindia.com/sports/ind...w/53777372.cms


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    No match to sir as of now. But signs are good

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    Before I can make sense of Why Saha is the best keeper in the world, can someone tell me, Who the hell is Wallace ????

    Is he the same guy from Braveheart ???
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    Who is Wallace lol?

    Anyways what do Indians think?

    They've been on a whine fest regarding him since he came so he can't be all that good I'm assuming?

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    I always thought of Saha as being a very very ordinary keeper, I need to see him play a couple of games to judge though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Who is Wallace lol?

    Anyways what do Indians think?

    They've been on a whine fest regarding him since he came so he can't be all that good I'm assuming?
    He is the best wicketkeeper in the country. Might not be that good baysman but his wicket keeping skills are second to none. I have heard some professional ex cricketers from other countries say wonderful things about him.

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    He is not even Indian best keeper yaar


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Before I can make sense of Why Saha is the best keeper in the world, can someone tell me, Who the hell is Wallace ????

    Is he the same guy from Braveheart ???
    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Who is Wallace lol?

    Anyways what do Indians think?

    They've been on a whine fest regarding him since he came so he can't be all that good I'm assuming?
    Phillo Wallace was the star of the 1998 Champions Trophy. He scored a powerful knock vs Pakistan and formed a brief opening partnership with Clayton Lambert for WI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Phillo Wallace was the star of the 1998 Champions Trophy. He scored a powerful knock vs Pakistan and formed a brief opening partnership with Clayton Lambert for WI.
    Clearly you missed the point of my post #smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by #GreenRoars View Post
    He is not even Indian best keeper yaar
    He definitely is. His keeping in the last two series to Jadeja an Ashwin has been exemplary. He's got some useful runs in low scoring matches too, so not useless with the bat either.

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    Is it just me that's been incredibly impressed by Shane Dowrich behind the stumps?

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    I like Quinton De Kock

    Seems like a decent keeper and is phenomenal batsman on top of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msb314 View Post
    I like Quinton De Kock

    Seems like a decent keeper and is phenomenal batsman on top of it.
    Same. Quite under-rated come to think of it.

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    Lol even Saha would laugh at this.

    Or is he talking about the keeping skills alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by street cricketer View Post
    Lol even Saha would laugh at this.

    Or is he talking about the keeping skills alone?
    Keeping skills alone. It is between him and Watling if you only consider that.

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    His keeping skills are quite brilliant and while not particularly talented, he can grit it out in the middle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Keeping skills alone. It is between him and Watling if you only consider that.
    I'd suggest alot of the best keepers around aren't actually in the international game because their battings not deemed up to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Keeping skills alone. It is between him and Watling if you only consider that.
    Yeah might be.

    But there are hardly any genuine keepers going around in world cricket these days. Most are picked more for their batting than keeping.

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    Not sure what PPers found offensive in his comment. Based on what I have seen, Saha is a very good keeper. Not sure about the best keeper, but he kept brilliantly during SA series. I saw every ball in that series.


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    Who is the best pure keeper atm?

    De Kock?

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    Congrats To Wriddhiman Saha For Scoring 203* To Chase Down 379 Against Ranji Tophy Winners Gujarat

    Scored a duck for Rest Of India in first innings.

    Walked in at 63-4 in the second innings starring at a target of 379 in 4th innings.

    Slammed a double century to take Rest Of India to a win by 6 wickets.

    Ably supported by none other than the gun Pujara who scored a century in the chase (he top scored for Rest Of India in first innings).

    379/4

    Pujara - 116*
    Saha - 203*

    Yesterday at close of play, Saha's SR was 50s but today by the time the game finished, it was 74.

    Thank God for this knock Saha ji.


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    Good one by Saha. Ironically has come against Patel's side. Btw "gun" Pujara should easily be able to score these runs against the battery of trundlers that Gujarat boasts of.

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    Gun Pujara has scored more amazing runs in Asia than almost all ATGs/Asian bullies.

    On rank turners and against quality spinners.

    So yes, this isn't a big deal for him but yet again he plays a high pressure knock to win the game.

    Unbelievably impactful bat in Asia he is.


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    So that makes it two back to back historic chases in Irani Cup. Last year RoI chased around 500.

    Saha finally coming good with the bat. Not the one you would want to depend on against high quality bowling but he, without a doubt has got great temperament.

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    Not expecting major runs from Saha.

    As long as he chips in with clutch runs here and there, its fine by me. Its also possible that Saha is one of those bats who will look ugly and hopeless at the crease but can make it work. Supreme temperament no doubt.

    Need him for his keeping skills which aren't earth shattering but safe. I feel assured with him behind the stumps.
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    Most natural WK since Rashid. Moves like water behind the stumps and collects them cleanly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Most natural WK since Rashid. Moves like water behind the stumps and collects them cleanly.
    Not good against spin.

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    Biggest dilemma is to whether select Saha who is the better keeper but looks shaky with the bat or Patel who is a drop machine but is a bit more assured with the bat.

    Wonder what the other Indian fans feel about this issue..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion__ View Post
    So that makes it two back to back historic chases in Irani Cup. Last year RoI chased around 500.
    How do you know these things lol? Even Indians aren't so much into domestic cricket.

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    Wicket keeping skills over batting skills for me. Drops costs can be very high. Most times batting can't make up for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    How do you know these things lol? Even Indians aren't so much into domestic cricket.
    Lol I wondered the same as well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeetu View Post
    Wicket keeping skills over batting skills for me. Drops costs can be very high. Most times batting can't make up for it.
    Not much separating the two atm, in terms of keeping, Saha dropped a dolly in the first half hour on day 4 when Kaul was bowling IIRC. In that sense Patel has been more reassuring behind the stumps this home season, Parthiv is also a much better bat & got out to an umpiring howler in the second innings.

    Between the two I'd still go with Parthiv atm, though we seriously need someone more refined & assured behind the stumps even if he's a lesser bat than these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    Not much separating the two atm, in terms of keeping, Saha dropped a dolly in the first half hour on day 4 when Kaul was bowling IIRC. In that sense Patel has been more reassuring behind the stumps this home season, Parthiv is also a much better bat & got out to an umpiring howler in the second innings.

    Between the two I'd still go with Parthiv atm, though we seriously need someone more refined & assured behind the stumps even if he's a lesser bat than these two.
    Your post doesn't make sense. Posters generally agree that Saha is the better keeper than "drop machine" Patel (as per @street cricketer).

    Judging keeping abilities by one drop is absurd. Just quoting one drop to conclude "In that sense Patel has been more reassuring behind the stumps this home season"?

    As for their batting, you speak of their performance in the recent Irani match, did you notice Saha averaged 203 and Patel averaged 22?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Your post doesn't make sense. Posters generally agree that Saha is the better keeper than "drop machine" Patel (as per @street cricketer).

    Judging keeping abilities by one drop is absurd. Just quoting one drop to conclude "In that sense Patel has been more reassuring behind the stumps this home season"?

    As for their batting, you speak of their performance in the recent Irani match, did you notice Saha averaged 203 and Patel averaged 22?
    I don't need anyone else's observations when I've seen enough of them myself, Saha since the end of 2015 has not been any safe of a keeper than Parthiv in the year 2016. The year 2004 & his performances back then are over a decade old, they have no bearing on his output today. Saha has never been a safe keeper, he's supposedly the best we've got but that isn't much to hold him in some high esteem.

    Did you also miss his duck in the first innings, or his debut against Steyn in 2010 on a placid Nagpur track, the travails against England? There's a pattern there & I'll let you figure it out, also the track flattened out in the second innings just as it did the last year besides Parthiv got out to a howler, not his fault IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    I don't need anyone else's observations when I've seen enough of them myself, Saha since the end of 2015 has not been any safe of a keeper than Parthiv in the year 2016. The year 2004 & his performances back then are over a decade old, they have no bearing on his output today. Saha has never been a safe keeper, he's supposedly the best we've got but that isn't much to hold him in some high esteem.

    Did you also miss his duck in the first innings, or his debut against Steyn in 2010 on a placid Nagpur track, the travails against England? There's a pattern there & I'll let you figure it out, also the track flattened out in the second innings just as it did the last year besides Parthiv got out to a howler, not his fault IMO.
    PP's poor keeping is not limited to 2004 etc. but also the recent series. This is the opinion of many posters.

    Even if you believe that PP was out to a "howler" in the 2nd innings, even if you remove that "out" from the calculation, it only raises his average for the match to 43 compared to Saha's 203.

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    A quality keeper should be first priority..

    So India's best keeper is Saha..

    De Kock is the current best wkt-keeper in the world though.

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    Outstanding keeper. Test cricket needs specialist Wicket Keepers who do their job brilliantly.

    Parthiv Patel to me has always been a very average WK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketfanfirst View Post
    Outstanding keeper. Test cricket needs specialist Wicket Keepers who do their job brilliantly.

    Parthiv Patel to me has always been a very average WK.
    Don't praise Parthiv Patel so much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    I don't need anyone else's observations when I've seen enough of them myself, Saha since the end of 2015 has not been any safe of a keeper than Parthiv in the year 2016.
    And now over to the chief selector Prasad:

    "Wriddiman Saha was out of the team because of injury and not because he was out of form," Prasad told the Sportstar. "He was the Man of the Match in the Kolkata Test against New Zealand and got a hundred in West Indies. I am happy how Parthiv [Patel] has responded to the call-up.

    "He is a fighter to the core. He single-handedly brought Gujarat from nowhere to being the Ranji champion. He is among our scheme of things. There is just a minor difference between the two. When it comes to Test cricket, it is always the man who keeps better gets the nod.

    "Parthiv's glovework has definitely improved. But Saha has got better hands and that's where he scores little more points than Parthiv. With today's batting, Saha showed why he is the No. 1 keeper-batsman in the country. When he came out to bat yesterday, the team was struggling at 63 for 4 and to take the game away from Gujarat is phenomenal. So it's a healthy competition between the two."

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    Both glove work and umpiring are similar. They are good as long as you don't notice them particularly.

    I haven't seen Saha dropping too many catches except for the match at Rajkot. However Parthiv showed his poor keeping skills in the matches he played. Personally I think Saha should play in India as he is the better keeper especially against spinners. However I would want him to become more consistent with the bat (like he was in the last year) so that we can depend on him when we tour overseas late this year. Guy has a knack of looking very shaky yet being able to play clutch knocks. However my dream keeper bat is Pant provided he is upto the mark with the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by street cricketer View Post
    However my dream keeper bat is Pant provided he is upto the mark with the gloves.
    Not yet. I heard Dravid is working with him on both batting and keeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    Not yet. I heard Dravid is working with him on both batting and keeping.
    In the best possible hands.

    I desperately hope we see him debut tomorrow. Although won't be surprised if he doesn't.

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    So what has been the verdict on Saha so far in this series?

    Haven't been able to watch much of the series, but he seems to taking the plaudits as far as the keeping is concerned.

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    His keeping skills are pretty good. But his batting leaves a lot to prove for.

    Nevertheless, he is still the best India has and should be retained for overseas tours.

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    I can't believe he is in the team when India have players like Rishab Pant in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    I can't believe he is in the team when India have players like Rishab Pant in the country.
    we need a keeper not the statue behind the stump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smbhayi View Post
    we need a keeper not the statue behind the stump!
    I thought he is a keeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    So what has been the verdict on Saha so far in this series?

    Haven't been able to watch much of the series, but he seems to taking the plaudits as far as the keeping is concerned.
    Absolutely stunning keeper.

    Took a clutch catch of Wade towards the end.

    As a bat, he has a lot of heart. If he survives the first 20 balls, he is able to bat properly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    So what has been the verdict on Saha so far in this series?

    Haven't been able to watch much of the series, but he seems to taking the plaudits as far as the keeping is concerned.
    Like I said previously, a mental fidgeting (while batting) midget & his (good) keeping is the only thing keeping him in the squad atm. He's useless with the bat & DRS, Pant or Kishan should be brought in after this home season ends.

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    In many ways he is the Pre- Gilchrist type WK- He is an excellent WK and a solid bat,Someone like Ian Healy comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    I thought he is a keeper?
    Not good enough.

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    Saha is growing on me. His wicket-keeping skills are so far ahead of the rest that it makes up for his batting limitations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Not good enough.
    Oh.

    Well, I'm not impressed with Saha if you want me to be honest. He bats like a tailender and cannot be called a wicket-keep batsman. He can be one of those classic, full time wicket-keepers of the 60's and 70's who only played a good knock once in 3 series.

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    Saha is good keeper. One of the best out there.

    However, he is a Tailender batsman. Cannot play spin or pace. Good for scoring runs against trundlers.

    India should find another replacement for him soon.

    Saha will be badly exposed when India starts touring. For the past 6 months our top order and middle order are scoring all the runs and Sah was scoring a few fifties with no pressure on him.

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    He is a good keeper but literally a tailender against any good bowling.

    He rarely appeals even if he takes a catch and his drs inputs are comical

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    His keeping is fantastic but he is a tailender. Even that hundred he scored against Bangladesh last month was gifted to him by Mushfiqur's clown antics behind the stumps. He should have been stumped when he was batting on 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    I can't believe he is in the team when India have players like Rishab Pant in the country.
    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    Like I said previously, a mental fidgeting (while batting) midget & his (good) keeping is the only thing keeping him in the squad atm. He's useless with the bat & DRS, Pant or Kishan should be brought in after this home season ends.
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Oh.

    Well, I'm not impressed with Saha if you want me to be honest. He bats like a tailender and cannot be called a wicket-keep batsman. He can be one of those classic, full time wicket-keepers of the 60's and 70's who only played a good knock once in 3 series.
    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Saha is good keeper. One of the best out there.

    However, he is a Tailender batsman. Cannot play spin or pace. Good for scoring runs against trundlers.

    India should find another replacement for him soon.

    Saha will be badly exposed when India starts touring. For the past 6 months our top order and middle order are scoring all the runs and Sah was scoring a few fifties with no pressure on him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    He is a good keeper but literally a tailender against any good bowling.

    He rarely appeals even if he takes a catch and his drs inputs are comical
    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    His keeping is fantastic but he is a tailender. Even that hundred he scored against Bangladesh last month was gifted to him by Mushfiqur's clown antics behind the stumps. He should have been stumped when he was batting on 4.
    @sensible-indian-fan seems like all the usual whiners are out again in force complaining about Saha's batting.

    Fact: Saha is the first person to score a century in an IPL final. He averaged 100+ in the NZ series. Before the Australian series he averaged 52+ the last year (some "tailender" that!). Yes, his batting hasn't been great in the Aus series, but the same is true for most of the Indian lineup. "Mental midget" did hit Starc for a sweet six towards the end of India's second innings.

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    Someone should tell Saha that he needs to appeal when the ball hits the pad in front of the wickets.

    Also, Kohli should whip Saha the next time he does not give any input about reviewing the umpires decision.

    Saha is a Clown. He never once helped Kohli with reviewing decisions. Sunny Gavaskar pointed this out many times in the commentary box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Someone should tell Saha that he needs to appeal when the ball hits the pad in front of the wickets.

    Also, Kohli should whip Saha the next time he does not give any input about reviewing the umpires decision.

    Saha is a Clown. He never once helped Kohli with reviewing decisions. Sunny Gavaskar pointed this out many times in the commentary box.
    Please stop listening to Sunny gavaskar. He is a joke. One instance he said "Saha - It should be your job to tell the captain". Upon arefully looking at the replay from the other end, one could clearly see that Saha immediately told kohli that it was high. Overall, I agree Saha is unsure and feels pressured. I think eveyone in front of the wicket should call for inside edges (I saw S O Keefe calling an inside edge from short mid wicket).

    So to conclude, I agree Saha needs to improve, Kohli needs to stop feeling pressured by Ashwin and co to go for a review every single ball and finally, one should watch the match on mute when Gavaskar is speaking.


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    Brilliant keeper, not convincing as a batsmen but certainly is a fighter and gives it his all.

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    The best keeper in the world,a shaky starter but still a better bat than Dhoni in tests

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    His wicketkeeping is easily worth an average of an extra wicket taken per innings. His catch of Wade was critical, any one Aussie batsman could have taken them to victory.

    Critics are now reduced to stupid statements like "he doesn't appeal enough". Yeah sure, appeal all the time and annoy the umpires. Nice plan for success.

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    Lets be really honest with his batting. He is a shocking batsman and a tailender.

    If he is playing behind ashwin it shows how the team management thinks of his batting.

    Yeah hitting a full toss for six is his biggest achievement in batting to date.

    If india depends on his batting outside of india then we have no hope

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    His wicketkeeping is easily worth an average of an extra wicket taken per innings. His catch of Wade was critical, any one Aussie batsman could have taken them to victory.

    Critics are now reduced to stupid statements like "he doesn't appeal enough". Yeah sure, appeal all the time and annoy the umpires. Nice plan for success.
    Tell me his performances with the bat against aus, eng, sa.

    He has not lasted an average 20 balls against them. U call him a batsman.

    Yeah ipl is test cricket isnt it? He is the worst keeper batsman i have seen play for india that include ajay ratra, dighe.

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    His wicketkeeping is easily worth an average of an extra wicket taken per innings. His catch of Wade was critical, any one Aussie batsman could have taken them to victory.

    Critics are now reduced to stupid statements like "he doesn't appeal enough". Yeah sure, appeal all the time and annoy the umpires. Nice plan for success.
    What about his shocking keeping against eng? Contributed zilch with the bat, dropped catches.

    Even in this match he didn't appeal convincingly for caught behind of shaun marsh when he gloved to the keeper. India didnt review that decision because of his half hearted appealing

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    In this series also he missed stampings as well and in a low scoring series where every run is vital we r playing with a dud batsman as a keeper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    In this series also he missed stampings as well and in a low scoring series where every run is vital we r playing with a dud batsman as a keeper
    "Dud batsman" was averaging 52+ over the last year before the Australia series. It is foolish to think that any keeper in the world is going to get every stumping and every catch. He will average one or more catch and stumping per innings compared to other Indian keepers.

    All this ranting against Saha is pretty futile. He is an integral part of the Indian team and is going to be for a long time, deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    "Dud batsman" was averaging 52+ over the last year before the Australia series. It is foolish to think that any keeper in the world is going to get every stumping and every catch. He will average one or more catch and stumping per innings compared to other Indian keepers.

    All this ranting against Saha is pretty futile. He is an integral part of the Indian team and is going to be for a long time, deal with it.
    Haha. We will see if he plays a game outside of india like in sa, eng, aus.

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    I thought dhoni was a worse batsman but saha makes him look like bradman in front of him.

    Even dhoni averaged in high 40 s in india

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    I thought dhoni was a worse batsman but saha makes him look like bradman in front of him.

    Even dhoni averaged in high 40 s in india
    Indian selectors are not stupid drama queens and Saha is going to be India's wicketkeepers for a long time. Like I said, deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Indian selectors are not stupid drama queens and Saha is going to be India's wicketkeepers for a long time. Like I said, deal with it.
    We will also voice our opinions on him. Deal with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    @sensible-indian-fan seems like all the usual whiners are out again in force complaining about Saha's batting.

    Fact: Saha is the first person to score a century in an IPL final. He averaged 100+ in the NZ series. Before the Australian series he averaged 52+ the last year (some "tailender" that!). Yes, his batting hasn't been great in the Aus series, but the same is true for most of the Indian lineup. "Mental midget" did hit Starc for a sweet six towards the end of India's second innings.
    Yaar. Stop talking about IPL. We've all seen how well some players play in these Twenty20 leagues on flat highways and can't play a single delivery in International cricket. By the way, I remember, before that century he hadn't gotten a FIFTY in 3 seasons. It was just a fluke. Relax.

    As for hitting Starc for a six, you logic defines your ignorance, honestly. How stupid. Absolute tailenders have smacked Wasim Akram for sixes. Does that somehow suddenly transform them into decent Batters? Not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Yaar. Stop talking about IPL. We've all seen how well some players play in these Twenty20 leagues on flat highways and can't play a single delivery in International cricket. By the way, I remember, before that century he hadn't gotten a FIFTY in 3 seasons. It was just a fluke. Relax.

    As for hitting Starc for a six, you logic defines your ignorance, honestly. How stupid. Absolute tailenders have smacked Wasim Akram for sixes. Does that somehow suddenly transform them into decent Batters? Not for me.
    He hit a rank full toss into the boundary ropes and he feels extraordinary about it.

    That is some level of justification for his batting

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    Saha is best WK in India right now, and he can atleast average in high 20s and score 100 once in blue. He needs to improve in terms of DRS stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Saha is best WK in India right now, and he can atleast average in high 20s and score 100 once in blue. He needs to improve in terms of DRS stuff.
    Sir nobody is questioning his keeping. He is the best glove man we got but in a low scoring series where there is plenty of help for bowlers u need a capable batsman and not a 1970 s keeper batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    @sensible-indian-fan seems like all the usual whiners are out again in force complaining about Saha's batting.

    Fact: Saha is the first person to score a century in an IPL final. He averaged 100+ in the NZ series. Before the Australian series he averaged 52+ the last year (some "tailender" that!). Yes, his batting hasn't been great in the Aus series, but the same is true for most of the Indian lineup. "Mental midget" did hit Starc for a sweet six towards the end of India's second innings.
    With time, Saha will win all of their hearts.

    Not too long ago, people said there was not much difference between Saha and Parthiv's keeping (not that it was ever true). This is after Saha was in the international circuit for 1.5 years where his keeping was steady with rare screw ups. But from what we recently saw, Saha's keeping has become way better and right now, one could say he is head and shoulders above any keeper in the world (I don't recall anyone being better).

    I get the feeling that he is performing better with more games under his belt (more confidence & more security of his spot).

    The Renshaw and Wade dismissal were super important the last game.

    With the bat, yes he looks bad for the first 20 balls, but I don't recall any innings of his where he was poor once he survived the first 20 balls. Last game, he played a clutch little knock at the end. We may have won by 75 runs but those runs at the end were golden which gave us the cushion we needed. If someone else had stayed with him, he would have scored more runs too.

    As for better options, its not like we have an Adam Gilchrist waiting in our wings. Let the other contenders get selected for A tours, practice games and prove themselves (with both batting and keeping) and if they do, then its ok to replace Saha.

    Right now, Saha is an important member of our team. He ain't going anywhere. He has a lot of heart and I think the more he plays, the better he will perform with the bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    Lets be really honest with his batting. He is a shocking batsman and a tailender.

    If he is playing behind ashwin it shows how the team management thinks of his batting.

    Yeah hitting a full toss for six is his biggest achievement in batting to date.

    If india depends on his batting outside of india then we have no hope
    if India depends on no. 6/7 bat then surely we've no right to hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    Sir nobody is questioning his keeping. He is the best glove man we got but in a low scoring series where there is plenty of help for bowlers u need a capable batsman and not a 1970 s keeper batsman
    lol for low scoring match we need capable keeper than capable batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smbhayi View Post
    lol for low scoring match we need capable keeper than capable batsman.
    Yeah if u get bundled for 100 runs u need a keeper to bail us with his miracle keeping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    He hit a rank full toss into the boundary ropes and he feels extraordinary about it.
    Your reasoning skills are poor. I did not only mention the six, I have also mentioned his 50+ average over a year. Also add his IPL century and his 203* for ROI scored with Pujara at the other end scoring about 120 etc. etc.

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