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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    If he is playing behind ashwin it shows how the team management thinks of his batting.
    More evidence of your inability to analyze. Ashwin has recently been ranked the world's #1 all-rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    With time, Saha will win all of their hearts.

    Not too long ago, people said there was not much difference between Saha and Parthiv's keeping (not that it was ever true). This is after Saha was in the international circuit for 1.5 years where his keeping was steady with rare screw ups. But from what we recently saw, Saha's keeping has become way better and right now, one could say he is head and shoulders above any keeper in the world (I don't recall anyone being better).

    He ain't going anywhere. He has a lot of heart and I think the more he plays, the better he will perform with the bat.
    Quite right you are SIF

    Interesting that recently playing for ROI, Saha scored a double and Pujara a single. This test we have it reversed, hope their partnership is winning again.

    Time to bring back the following classic posts, Saha trolling his critics again today:


    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    Lets be really honest with his batting. He is a shocking batsman and a tailender.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    His keeping is fantastic but he is a tailender.
    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    However, he is a Tailender batsman. Cannot play spin or pace.
    For the past 6 months our top order and middle order are scoring all the runs and Sah was scoring a few fifties with no pressure on him.
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Well, I'm not impressed with Saha if you want me to be honest. He bats like a tailender and cannot be called a wicket-keep batsman.
    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    Like I said previously, a mental fidgeting (while batting) midget

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    Gun player

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    An old fashion player, concentrating on his first trade, keeping and he is the best. His batting is also more than useful and at par or better ( in tests ) than any WK at the moment. He is hard working and not a flamboyant player. Any team would be lucky to have a player like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    An old fashion player, concentrating on his first trade, keeping and he is the best. His batting is also more than useful and at par or better ( in tests ) than any WK at the moment. He is hard working and not a flamboyant player. Any team would be lucky to have a player like him.
    Think that's a bit optimistic, De Kock and Bairstow are clearly a decent distance ahead right now.

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    They showed a stat

    Till 2015 his batting average was 21

    In last 15 months that has jumped to 47+.

    Thats as goos as you'd expect from a keeper. Already has 3 test 100s, Dhoni in his entire career had 6! Has bailed us out on so many occasions, was a treat to watch him fight today.

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    Clearly an upgrade over Dhoni

    Indian fans must realize how overrated is Dhoni in tests.

    It is laughable to even think of selecting him in an all time Asian Test XI.

    Saha will end up as a better test wicket keeper batsman.

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    I man one of those critics of Saha, but I give credit to him for this innings. He was determined not to throw his wicket away and the influence of Pujara has rubbed on him.

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    This is a dead wicket with nothing for pacers and spinners. He only thing that Saha had to weather was pressure and he did it wonderfully.

    I still stand by my words. Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.

    Once India starts touring, he will look like a walking wicket. So far in this series he has been impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Quite right you are SIF

    Interesting that recently playing for ROI, Saha scored a double and Pujara a single. This test we have it reversed, hope their partnership is winning again.
    Good to see him do so well.

    He was playing (ducking) the Pat Cummins bouncers better than anyone else. He just needs to get past the first 20-30 balls after which he grows in confidence and starts performing.

    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    I man one of those critics of Saha, but I give credit to him for this innings. He was determined not to throw his wicket away and the influence of Pujara has rubbed on him.
    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    This is a dead wicket with nothing for pacers and spinners. He only thing that Saha had to weather was pressure and he did it wonderfully.

    I still stand by my words. Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.

    Once India starts touring, he will look like a walking wicket. So far in this series he has been impressive.
    It's not about dead wicket. It's about pressure too.

    Teams crumble on wickets like these all the time under pressure. When Saha arrived at the crease, we were like 130 runs behind with just 4 wickets to go. To score a 100 from there on is seriously hard especially considering ALL of Aussie bowlers were super tight and at you all the time.

    As for quality knock, check his twin unbeaten 50s against NZ seam attack on a seam friendly pitch.

    Or 100 against WI against Alzarri and Gabriel on a relatively seam friendly track.
    Last edited by sensible-indian-fan; 19th March 2017 at 13:26.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    Think that's a bit optimistic, De Kock and Bairstow are clearly a decent distance ahead right now.
    What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

    If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.
    You are stuck in your make-believe world about Saha and refuse to leave it. This is the same wicket in which Kohli scored 6 and Rahane 17. The Aussie attack is one of the best in the world. It was only due to the super batting by Pujara and Saha that they were ground down.
    Last edited by Napa; 19th March 2017 at 13:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

    If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.
    Please tell me you're kidding? Saha isn't even close to the same class as Bairstow right now. Unsurpising that in the 2 games he played with Saha he out batted (and outkept him) by a country mile, despite facing Ashwin and Jadeja instead of Moeen and Rashid.

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    Also not sure I'd be calling averaging over 40 in your first series as a keeper in Asia whilst carrying out a very respectable jobs with the gloves as 'getting smashed' from a batsmans point of view.
    Last edited by HitWicket; 19th March 2017 at 13:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion__ View Post
    Saha without a doubt has got great temperament.
    Every gentle guy is not submissive. You can't ask anything more from him if he is scoring crucial runs and taking important catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    Also not sure I'd be calling averaging over 40 in your first series as a keeper in Asia whilst carrying out a very respectable jobs with the gloves as 'getting smashed' from a batsmans point of view.
    Need I remind you that the result was 4-0. Averages mean little when you are not even able to rescue your team on one occasion from the smashing. On the other hand, when Saha came in to bat yesterday India was staring at defeat and a probable series loss. When he left today India was going for the Test and series win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Need I remind you that the result was 4-0. Averages mean little when you are not even able to rescue your team on one occasion from the smashing. On the other hand, when Saha came in to bat yesterday India was staring at defeat and a probable series loss. When he left today India was going for the Test and series win.
    And from that alone you genuinely believe Saha is a better batsman than Bairstow...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

    If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.
    Bairstow is class man.

    He clicked in SA.

    He played some clutch knocks against Pakistan in Eng.

    Didn't look like a dummy in India. Looked competent but sometimes you don't kick on.

    I would say he is the best batsman among keepers in the world. De Kock is the most ruthless though it remains to be seen how he will fare in different conditions.


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    Despite his recent success,his career average of 29 before this match and above 30 now tells that he is a average player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    And from that alone you genuinely believe Saha is a better batsman than Bairstow...?
    From a Cricinfo article by Brettig "Pujara and Saha went on to a partnership that has redefined the match and possibly the series."

    When was the last time Baristow played an innings of such consequence that it "redefined the match and possibly the series"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Bairstow is class man.

    He clicked in SA.

    He played some clutch knocks against Pakistan in Eng.

    Didn't look like a dummy in India. Looked competent but sometimes you don't kick on.

    I would say he is the best batsman among keepers in the world. De Kock is the most ruthless though it remains to be seen how he will fare in different conditions.
    Bairstow has a very good average of 42 for a wk. Saha's average is considerably lower, but over the last year he has matched Bairstow. Also he comes in late which pushes down his average. In the previous innings he lost runs trying to protect Ishant from the strike. In today's innings he only got out when there was a need to push up the scoring rate towards the end of the innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    From a Cricinfo article by Brettig "Pujara and Saha went on to a partnership that has redefined the match and possibly the series."

    When was the last time Baristow played an innings of such consequence that it "redefined the match and possibly the series"?
    This one? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...h/1029825.html

    Came in at 62/5, departed at 189/6 and saving England from what would have been an embarrassing defeat to Bangladesh.

    Also whilst we're at in then I'll bite, when was the last time Kohli played an innings that redefined a match and the series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Bairstow has a very good average of 42 for a wk. Saha's average is considerably lower, but over the last year he has matched Bairstow.
    Last 12 months :

    Bairstow
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    Average 55.95

    50% of games at home.
    50% of games in Asia.

    Saha
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    Average 47.30

    69% of games at home.
    31% of games in the West Indies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    This one? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...h/1029825.html

    Came in at 62/5, departed at 189/6 and saving England from what would have been an embarrassing defeat to Bangladesh.

    Also whilst we're at in then I'll bite, when was the last time Kohli played an innings that redefined a match and the series?
    Maybe this one... after England pressured India in the first Test, after this Test they were shattered.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...h/1034811.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    Last 12 months :

    Bairstow
    14 games
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    Average 55.95

    50% of games at home.
    50% of games in Asia.

    Saha
    13 games
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    Average 47.30

    69% of games at home.
    31% of games in the West Indies.
    Again, here mere statistics are not enough. The 13 games include raging turners like the first Test against the Aussies at Pune where the entire Indian team scored 105 and 107.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    From a Cricinfo article by Brettig "Pujara and Saha went on to a partnership that has redefined the match and possibly the series."

    When was the last time Baristow played an innings of such consequence that it "redefined the match and possibly the series"?
    SL series last year. 1st and 3rd test:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/913613.html

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/913617.html

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    Wriddhiman Saha better wicket-keeper than MS Dhoni: Sourav Ganguly

    New Delhi: Indian wicket-keeper batsman MS Dhoni is widely considered as the best man behind the stumps not just in India but all over the world, but as far as Sourav Ganguly is concerned, Wriddhiman Saha is even better.


    MS Dhoni's future at least until the 2019 World Cup was recently sorted after head coach Ravi Shastri confirmed his place for the mega event and it hardly seems possible that anyone elese apart from him would take his place behind the stumps in the near future.

    Ganguly, however, opened up on Mahi's place in the showpiece event, saying it's Virat Kohli's trust in him not just as a wicket-keeper batsman but also as a leader that has secured his position in India's World Cup plans.

    “I think so (Dhoni will continue till 2019 World Cup). The best part for Dhoni is Virat Kohli wants him. He’s 36 and he’s not the flamboyant MS Dhoni that we saw in Pakistan in 2004 but he’s a different player now. Kohli needs him not just as a keeper but in the leadership capacity as well; he has got the best view behind the stumps,” said Dada was quoted as saying by India Today.
    Later, the Bengal Tiger drew comparisons between Dhoni and Saha, saying the Men in Blue should keep an eye on the latter, who is better at wicket-keeper than the former.


    “MS Dhoni is different, not the orthodox one but you need to be different to be successful and he has that. He has learnt his craft with time but we must keep an eye on Wriddhiman Saha. He’s better than him at wicket-keeping, the best in the country right now. He bats at 6 or 7 for India so must keep an eye on him,” added Sourav.


    Ganguly then analysed the inclusion of Dinesh Karthik in place of KL Rahul, saying he felt that the selection was not justified and Rahul'd exclusion came as a surprise for him.


    While the Dhoni was going though a rough patch in terms of his batting, chief selector MSK Prasad had called him the best wicket-keeper in the world.
    "We all believe he is still the best wicketkeeper in the world," Prasad had said. "We are only talking and focusing on his batting form. He is an invaluable asset to this team. When it comes to crunch situations, [with] his inputs, I think he has got one of the best brains. He is the best person to guide Virat [Kohli]."


    Considering the way Kohli relies on Dhoni and the two lead other players of the team, it seems highly unlikely that anyone can replace Dhoni in the next 2-3 years.

    http://www.timesnownews.com/sports/a...ganguly/110565

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    Reasonable points from Ganguly. Always ready to speak his mind. However, the time to get rid of Dhoni has elapsed I feel. WC 2019 is less than 2 years away. Just better hope that he doesn't keep declining like he has been for the past 2-3 years or so. Carrying a 38 year old Dhoni with slow keeping reflexes would be a nightmare. He's always been one of the least agile WKs in the world and coupled with his slowing reflexes would be a perfect recipe for some extra byes and missed run outs which might prove to be very costly.
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    Dhoni is a poor keeper in tests. In ODIs, Dhoni is fantastic.

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    Dhoni with slow reflexes ! Are you sure you are actually watching Dhoni and not someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarecut View Post
    Dhoni with slow reflexes ! Are you sure you are actually watching Dhoni and not someone else?
    He is obviously slowing down with age. His performances in the last 2 series have been nowhere near his best, and sadly this is something you can't work on at 36.

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    Wriddhiman Saha hits fastest ever T20 Century

    The 33-year-old scored an astonishing 20-ball 102 for Mohun Bagan in a JC Mukherjee Trophy match against BNR Recreation Club in Kalighat.

    His knock included 14 sixes and four fours, as Mohun chased down the target of 151 in just seven overs.

    Saha took 12 balls to reach his 50 and won the game by hitting six sixes in an over, finishing with a strike rate of 510.

    West Indies batsman Chris Gayle holds the record for the fastest ever T20 century in a professional match, with his 30-ball knock in the IPL in 2013.

    Saha, who will play for Sunrisers Hyderabad when the IPL gets under way on 7 April, has played 32 Tests, his last appearance coming against South Africa in January.

    "I don't know whether this is a record or not. I tried to play different shots and had that in mind ahead of the IPL," Saha told reporters after the match.

    "From ball one I could feel the ball was hitting the middle of my bat and so I went for it."

    source: BBC Sports

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    Lots of Wicket Keepers are in form right now and are in wings (Saha, Pant, Ishan, DK, Sanju... Even Uttappa & Rahul have done well in IPL) I guess Dhoni is safe because of his experience, stardom and maybe wicket-keeping skills! Others have comfortably overtaken him in terms of batting & the demands of modern day!

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    BNR Recreation Club ??

    I dont think this is an official record.

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    Tennis ball tournaments don't count.


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