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  1. #1041
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    Stop jumping the gun guys. Their comments also indicated panic in the way they were lambasting social media.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike! View Post
    Stop jumping the gun guys. Their comments also indicated panic in the way they were lambasting social media.


    They have been saying Friday friday for the last two weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    They have been saying Friday friday for the last two weeks.
    Now people are speculating that's it's been delayed to 24th March because of Census and resolution day. This is getting ridiculous.

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    Qasum ke wasi ter mafaad main aik dafa phr nazrya-e-zarurat ki intehai zerurat he...



    Raise your words, not voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder... (Rumi)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Qasum ke wasi ter mafaad main aik dafa phr nazrya-e-zarurat ki intehai zerurat he...

    Ground being laid for muk muka type decision.


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    Another slap on noora faces





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    The frustration is clearly written on Noora faces after that.

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    In its ruling today CEC Sardar Raza Khan said that the references against Imran Khan and Tareen are unmaintainable and doesn’t qualify for hearing

    But look at the faces and words of PMLN leaders doing PC outside ECP building and you will feel they are the winners here boht himat he bhai inki koi sheram koi haya naam ki cheaz nae?

    This is the biggest slap on Speaker Ayaz Sadiq face he acted as a typical derbari and forwarded Imran and Tareen's references to ECP but rejected the one against Nawaz Sharif.

    and ECP spent 150 days on these references just to tell us they are unmaintainable and doesn’t qualify for hearing?
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    When is the result guys ?? Getting Impatient now

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    When is the result guys ?? Getting Impatient now
    Rumors are its coming out Tom but truthfully cant really say. What I am worried about is Noora's will something idiotic allowing the army to take power which I hope doesn't happen.


    "Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought"-JFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couch Cricketer View Post
    Rumors are its coming out Tom but truthfully cant really say. What I am worried about is Noora's will something idiotic allowing the army to take power which I hope doesn't happen.
    These goons will go to any length to save their 'kingdom', I won't be surprised if they somehow get martial law implemented instantaneously...........

    Noora's have no loyalty to Pakistan whatsoever. they are just loyal to themselves and their party and will sacrifice anything to protect their King....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couch Cricketer View Post
    Rumors are its coming out Tom but truthfully cant really say. What I am worried about is Noora's will something idiotic allowing the army to take power which I hope doesn't happen.
    They're not in a position to do anything. Besides a few goons, N league has no street power if Supreme Court gives a verdict against them.

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    For God's sake WHEN IS THE BLOODY DECISION?

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    I think we all know how dependable the runners are.

    common sense dictates its a win for pmln - they will be emboldened by the decision, and it will be a farcical merry go round between the two sharif and Bhutto dynasties until pakistan becomes a failed state. its difficult to see how Imran picks himself up from this.

    game over!

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    As per Aitizaz Ahsan, since Nawaz Sharif was not called by the supreme court so he is definitely off the hook.

    The only thing remaining to see is if supreme court will punish sons and daughter of Nawaz Sharif.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    As per Aitizaz Ahsan, since Nawaz Sharif was not called by the supreme court so he is definitely off the hook.

    The only thing remaining to see is if supreme court will punish sons and daughter of Nawaz Sharif.
    If Nawaz's children are barred from ever holding office, that would finally split the Sharif clan. Shahbaz will be keen to promote his own children, and it is anybody's guess what Nawaz would try to do in that case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    If Nawaz's children are barred from ever holding office, that would finally split the Sharif clan. Shahbaz will be keen to promote his own children, and it is anybody's guess what Nawaz would try to do in that case.
    I think there is a great chance that Nawaz's children will be barred from ever holding office. If this happen then it will be a just decision by SC. Nawaz's sons are not in politics anyway so this decision will not hurt them. It will hurt the daughter who is already acting like she is the next Prime Minister of Pakistan I would love to see SC put her in her right place. How dumb are other senior politicians of PML-N are to allow her to come forward like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    I think there is a great chance that Nawaz's children will be barred from ever holding office. If this happen then it will be a just decision by SC. Nawaz's sons are not in politics anyway so this decision will not hurt them. It will hurt the daughter who is already acting like she is the next Prime Minister of Pakistan I would love to see SC put her in her right place. How dumb are other senior politicians of PML-N are to allow her to come forward like that?
    But what if only Maryam is barred but not the sons. I will bet the sons will then enter politics. In the supreme national interest of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    But what if only Maryam is barred but not the sons. I will bet the sons will then enter politics. In the supreme national interest of course.
    Hmm all the children are named in Panama so I don't see any reason why SC will only bar one of them? Like what would be the justification of that? Either all should be barred or none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle_Force View Post
    Hmm all the children are named in Panama so I don't see any reason why SC will only bar one of them? Like what would be the justification of that? Either all should be barred or none.
    The SC moves in mysterious ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    But what if only Maryam is barred but not the sons. I will bet the sons will then enter politics. In the supreme national interest of course.
    Even if she is barred her son and daughter are ready because uncles are too busy with their business in london! Her teenage daughter is there with grandfather on every tour and was also there in the UN sitting with NS so i guess she is getting read for her future in politics.



    Her son



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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Even if she is barred her son and daughter are ready because uncles are too busy with their business in london! Her teenage daughter is there with grandfather on every tour and was also there in the UN sitting with NS so i guess she is getting read for her future in politics.



    Her son

    They don't look like they're of age. In the meantime, Shahbaz is waiting in the wings, ready to propel his own kids to the forefront, and his kids are already of age. He will jump at this opportunity.

    If the Sharif clan implodes over this, it would be terrific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    They don't look like they're of age. In the meantime, Shahbaz is waiting in the wings, ready to propel his own kids to the forefront, and his kids are already of age. He will jump at this opportunity.

    If the Sharif clan implodes over this, it would be terrific.
    Yea Hamza is all looking set but there are big differences within the family already according to reports Hamza and Maryam don't even talk to each other and their differences were clear during NA-122 elections and Dherna days.

    There are rumors that SC will order to open Hudaiba case again and that means Shehbaz is in big trouble he was named in that case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Yea Hamza is all looking set but there are big differences within the family already according to reports Hamza and Maryam don't even talk to each other and their differences were clear during NA-122 elections and Dherna days.

    There are rumors that SC will order to open Hudaiba case again and that means Shehbaz is in big trouble he was named in that case.
    Yea Nawaz Sharif could have made life a lot easier for himself by relinquishing power and giving it to Shehbaz/Hamza Sharif during the early stages of Panama. The fact that he didn't highlights that there are some significant differences and trust issues even within the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle_Force View Post
    Yea Nawaz Sharif could have made life a lot easier for himself by relinquishing power and giving it to Shehbaz/Hamza Sharif during the early stages of Panama. The fact that he didn't highlights that there are some significant differences and trust issues even within the family.
    According to a report Nawaz and family asked Shehbaz to step down during dherna so that Qadri can calm down but Hamza and Tehmina Durrani opposed the idea and replied why shehbaz why not bere mian sahab?


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    Excellent Answers!



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    So the judgement is not in the supplementary list for next week either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike! View Post
    So the judgement is not in the supplementary list for next week either.
    Judging by how they are delaying, it seems as if we might be in for a surprise here...... If let's say (And this is a massive massive hypothetical scenario) The supreme court gives some sort of a verdict that totally disqualifies the Sharif Family and the Noora Party in it's totality then I guess the ruling govt could've asked for 'unofficial muhlat' from the SC to get their affairs in order so that they could at least save their lives......

    This could only happen if the SC would convey a rigid stance on the overall morality of the verdict (via back channels ofcourse) and would refuse to bend backwards on the final judgement. The SC knows that there is huge public/peer/army pressure in this high profile case and would tread extremely carefully on the kind of decision it would give in this case.

    This, in my opinion one of the reasons why there is a delay in the final judgement however, this could all be just my imagination running wild and the final decision (like many others in the past ) could be extremely favorable for Badsha Salamat...

    What do you guys reckon ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    According to a report Nawaz and family asked Shehbaz to step down during dherna so that Qadri can calm down but Hamza and Tehmina Durrani opposed the idea and replied why shehbaz why not bere mian sahab?
    this def happened


    #MPGA

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    Every day I hear something new and weird thing is that very very credible and connected sources are telling contradictory things which makes me think that its anybody's guess what the actual ruling is


    #MPGA

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    Keep hearing about some action that will be taken but nothing so far.

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    So they are waiting for 23rd March to be over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike! View Post



    So they are waiting for 23rd March to be over.
    Every week they push the deadline forward


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    Koi sheram koi haya...



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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Koi sheram koi haya...

    Admitting what most of us knew anyway. She has no political nous, no seats...nothing, zilch yet is there in every damned meeting only because she is his daughter.

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    But but but Imran is UTurn Khan!



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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    But but but Imran is UTurn Khan!

    Hahaha This is Gold

    I am sharing this on my social media ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Hahaha This is Gold

    I am sharing this on my social media ...........
    Don't forget to tag Princess Maryam


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    Raise your words, not voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder... (Rumi)

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    I am seriously lost for words now !!! - Does she not know that Qatar is a hereditary Monarchy ???? ????

    What a complete idiot this woman is #smh
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    I am seriously lost for words now !!! - Does she not know that Qatar is a hereditary Monarchy ???? ????

    What a complete idiot this woman is #smh
    Lets see if Media reacts to it or not? I mean PPP and PML-N are the 'defenders of democracy' and they don't even know the diffrence between democracy and monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeraq View Post
    Lets see if Media reacts to it or not? I mean PPP and PML-N are the 'defenders of democracy' and they don't even know the diffrence between democracy and monarchy.
    I remember MNS speaking to UN GA where he said that it's against democracy to increase the number of Veto Countries. That day, I was ashamed that such an incompetent person is our PM.

    Didn't his staff tell him that democracy means dilution of powers. And Power Stagnation is undemocratic.

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    جج صاحب فیصلے پہ کبھی کبھی ٹاکی شاکی مار لیا کریں کہیں پڑے پڑے زنگ نہ پکڑ جائے
    Last edited by WebGuru; 21st March 2017 at 09:30.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    جج صاحب فیصلے پہ کبھی کبھی ٹاکی شاکی مار لیا کریں کہیں پڑے پڑے زنگ نہ پکڑ جائے
    Zung tou already lag hi gaya hai dost


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    جج صاحب فیصلے پہ کبھی کبھی ٹاکی شاکی مار لیا کریں کہیں پڑے پڑے زنگ نہ پکڑ جائے
    One thing is for sure Nawaz Sharif knows when the decision is expected otherwise he wouldn't be having picnic with Qatari leaders. I really hope he does not know the outcome already.

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    how long will they keep us waiting, are they waiting for the hype to die down?


    Those who stand for nothing fall for anything..

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    The rumors say there is a split decision coming, possibly 2-3 or 4-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike! View Post
    The rumors say there is a split decision coming, possibly 2-3 or 4-1.
    In whose favour?


    I don't care whether it is split or un-split.. as long as the right decision has been made. We all know some of the judges are in Nawaz's pocket, it remains to be seen how many.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    In whose favour?


    I don't care whether it is split or un-split.. as long as the right decision has been made. We all know some of the judges are in Nawaz's pocket, it remains to be seen how many.
    From their line of questioning their were 2 that def showed that the $ ruled and the Sharifs had them in their pocket, so it will come down to one judge and his conscious and you know that conscious always plays second fiddle to the $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    From their line of questioning their were 2 that def showed that the $ ruled and the Sharifs had them in their pocket, so it will come down to one judge and his conscious and you know that conscious always plays second fiddle to the $.
    I hope they get humiliated for the rest of their miserable lives if they are willing to sell the future of the nation for a few dollars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
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    I am seriously lost for words now !!! - Does she not know that Qatar is a hereditary Monarchy ???? ????

    What a complete idiot this woman is #smh
    The woman is plain stupid

    An absolute embarassment

    Last week she basically said that since she was Sharifs daughter that meant she was qualified

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    The woman is plain stupid

    An absolute embarassment

    Last week she basically said that since she was Sharifs daughter that meant she was qualified
    She is your next prime minister, unfortunately.


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    Princess Maryam is indeed an embarrasment. The thought of her as future PM make me wanna puke. All she does on twitter - along with those Twitter patwaris- is attack Shaukat Khanum hospital. Sadly, her father and uncle never bothered building any good hospitals or focus on healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GujjarLife View Post
    Princess Maryam is indeed an embarrasment. The thought of her as future PM make me wanna puke. All she does on twitter - along with those Twitter patwaris- is attack Shaukat Khanum hospital. Sadly, her father and uncle never bothered building any good hospitals or focus on healthcare.
    and those stupid retweets she do all the time by online patwaris.
    @Syed1 i think you missed there was big drama on Twitter a few days ago when a patwaran on Twitter asked Maryam to gift her the dress she is wearing that new pic and Maryam asked her to send the address she will send her the dress but the real drama started after that all other patwarans and patwaris got jealous and that poor patwaran came under massive attack for getting the special treatment insafians on twitter came to rescure her lol


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    ISLAMABAD:
    All five judges of the Supreme Court who adjudicated the Panamagate case will be back in Islamabad this coming week, raising expectations about the announcement of the much-awaited judgment reserved last month.

    The top court reserved the verdict on February 23 with lead judge Asif Saeed Khosa observing that a short order was not possible due to the sensitivity of the case.

    The past few weeks have made everyone, particularly politicians, very anxious as they are on tenterhooks waiting for the judgment to be announced. Politicians’ future course of action depends on the outcome of the judgment.

    All judges who heard the case were in different registries of the apex court. “[The] main reason for the delay is that these judges could not hold a huddle last week,” sources in the Supreme Court told The Express Tribune.

    Another reason for the delay is that every judge on the bench is giving his individual input in writing, keeping in view the importance of the case. “Normally, one judge writes [a] judgment and his fellow judges endorse it. Here, every member of the larger bench is writing his own note,” the sources said. They told The Express Tribune that all members of the larger bench would hold a meeting in the coming week.

    Last week, three of the five judges – Justice Khosa, Justice Azmat Saeed Sheikh and Justice Ijazul Ahsan – heard cases in the Lahore registry. Justice Gulzar Ahmad was sitting in the Karachi registry while Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan was in the Islamabad registry.

    Meanwhile, the Pakistan Tehreek-e- Insaaf has started showing concern over the delay in the announcement of the judgment. PTI spokesperson Fawad Chaudhry said that although they are aware that it’s not an easy task for the judges to give a verdict in a short period, the party believes that the verdict should be announced without further delay.

    However, a senior PTI leader disagreed with the party’s reaction regarding the delay in the verdict.

    Moreover, former Pakistan Bar Council vice-chairman Barrister Dr Mohammad Farogh Naseem rejected the PTI’s concern in this regard and said: “There is no delay in the verdict. Legally, the Supreme Court is not bound by any time duration regarding announcement of a judgment. However, the SC itself asked high courts to give ruling within three months after reserving it.”

    “I have full confidence in every judge of the larger bench, as all are competent, and there is no doubt about their integrity,” he added.

    Naseem said the judges write additional or dissenting notes in high-profile cases.The petitioners were unable to submit any document to establish that the London properties were directly owned by the prime minister.

    However, the judges may raise a question about ‘conflict of interest’ in their judgment. “[The] chances of dissenting opinions on some points in the judgment cannot be ruled out.”

    A senior official told The Express Tribune that the government has already devised different strategies to deal with any situation arising out after the judgment. Several senior members of the PML-N are admitting shortcomings in the legal strategy in the Panamagate case.

    “I think the Sharif family did a big mistake by delaying the matter and not deciding on the Panama leaks controversy last year. Since April 2016, they had enough time to sort out the issue through various means but they unnecessarily delayed it,” says a member of the PML-N legal team.
    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1365631...eturn-capital/

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    74% of Pakistanis not satisfied with Nawaz Sharif's government according to Express Tribune poll. So far, 25K have voted.


    Sehwag and Steyn are the Best.

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    Justice delayed is justice denied. I hope the judges haven't sold the nation's future for a few dollars. Eagerly waiting for the judgement to come sometime this week.


    Demons run when a good man goes to war

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    74% of Pakistanis not satisfied with Nawaz Sharif's government according to Express Tribune poll. So far, 25K have voted.
    Online polls don't mean much I'm afraid.

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