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  1. #81
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    Australia should invite Bangladesh instead, not a great test team but will give some fight and they can't have the worst and older captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    What kind of logic is this ? England have been beaten 5-0 in two out of their last three tours of Australia - should you stop inviting England for tours ? Ah no, because you want the $$$ for the Ashes so that's OK.

    Should Asian teams stop inviting Australia since they've lost 9 out of their last 9 Tests in Asia ?

    See where this ends up. Chappelli should be pensioned off anyway, seems to be losing his marbles especially after that Rabada village comment.
    Lol what village comment?

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    Firstly, I'm readily accepting of the fact Pakistan have been atrocious in Aistralia in recent years. Its a truly awful record.

    But aren't the double standards interesting ? When an Asian team fails outside Asia - they need to restructure their entire cricket system and cannot be rated as a good side.

    If a Western team loses in Asia, which they have more often than not recently, ah what you gonna do. I guess they're the better side "in THESE conditions" and you know what the Asians are like, they must've doctored the pitches.

    It smacks of a superiority complex and too many Asian fans buy into it. Sadly this is an era of cricket where teams seemingly are lions at home and kittens abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Lol what village comment?
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket...3a781aa5e3f6bd

    FORMER Australian Test captain Ian Chappell has come under fire for a comment that has offended South African viewers watching the first Test at the WACA.

    Chappell was commenting on play for Channel 9 when South African rising star Kagiso Rabada skittled the Australian middle order and snared a five-wicket haul.

    Chappell was full of praise for the talented 21-year-old and joined fellow commentator Ian Healy in labelling the quick a future superstar of the game.

    He said he was stunned by Rabada’s raw talent and pace at such a young age.

    Unfortunately, Chappell didn’t leave it at that.

    When Healy asked him how Rabada could have developed such speed in his bowling, Chappell replied: “You’d have to ask all the batsman in his village”.

    Rabada grew up in Johannesburg where he attended the prestigious St Stithians Boys College. His father is a neurosurgeon.
    Johannesburg must be a pretty big village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket...3a781aa5e3f6bd



    Johannesburg must be a pretty big village.
    What an idiot Is this racism or just stupidity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Let's not kid ourselves.

    If a subcontinent team plays in Sri Lanka, or Bangladesh or even West Indies, nobody really counts it as "away".

    You're not a minnow team. When we mention away, it's clear we mean unfamiliar conditions, which are not similar to the ones found in your home country.

    The only true alien conditions SC teams get are mostly Australia, South Africa and England (when it's swinging). All SC fans consider this criteria as away.

    For Australia, they have the most terrible, horrendous record in their unfamiliar conditions - entire ASIA!

    Don't go for stats blindly.
    Sorry but Australia win more matches away from home than most teams and statistics tell the true story not what people want to make up to make up.

    You can come up with all the excuses but facts are facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    What an idiot Is this racism or just stupidity?
    Well he is Australian, so I won't rule out the first reason


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    What an idiot Is this racism or just stupidity?
    Just sarcasm gone wrong.

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    Why ? Pak did play some decent cricket but the problem was up and down inconsistency. The gap was too big between good and bad cricket.

    This tour came after 7 years in any case and Test cricket Will be even more threatened.

    If anything Pak should be invited every 4 years and then I'm sure it will be more competitive.

    Why does India get invited every 3 years when they are not much better ? Just because it's easy Tv money ?

    Pakistan smashed the Aussies in 2014 in the UAE but no one talkes about not inviting them them then.

    Trust me Chappell has a soft corner for Pakistan but he's only saying these things because he's not happy with the fight they have shown. I know after somehow losing the Sydney 2010 Test he seemed as devestated as the Pak supporters were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Firstly, I'm readily accepting of the fact Pakistan have been atrocious in Aistralia in recent years. Its a truly awful record.

    But aren't the double standards interesting ? When an Asian team fails outside Asia - they need to restructure their entire cricket system and cannot be rated as a good side.

    If a Western team loses in Asia, which they have more often than not recently, ah what you gonna do. I guess they're the better side "in THESE conditions" and you know what the Asians are like, they must've doctored the pitches.

    It smacks of a superiority complex and too many Asian fans buy into it. Sadly this is an era of cricket where teams seemingly are lions at home and kittens abroad.
    quite true. This recent Eng series in India was a great example of that ... Even after Eng got hammered soundly despite winning most tosses and batting first on good batting surfaces and putting up big 1st inngs totals of over 400. It particularly annoys me when the like of Sunny and the shouting Shastri , Ganguly join in and provide more validation to these views by making careless statements. Asian teams/fans are good at scoring self goals.


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    If we aren't competitive in 2019 than surely it would be the End for 5 years atleast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Firstly, I'm readily accepting of the fact Pakistan have been atrocious in Aistralia in recent years. Its a truly awful record.

    But aren't the double standards interesting ? When an Asian team fails outside Asia - they need to restructure their entire cricket system and cannot be rated as a good side.

    If a Western team loses in Asia, which they have more often than not recently, ah what you gonna do. I guess they're the better side "in THESE conditions" and you know what the Asians are like, they must've doctored the pitches.

    It smacks of a superiority complex and too many Asian fans buy into it. Sadly this is an era of cricket where teams seemingly are lions at home and kittens abroad.
    This goes without saying but we, mainly South Asians, do consider this a blight when we lose abroad. Losing heavily, of course gets harsher reactions especially from the home fans.

    The narrative however these days is that "in these conditions" i.e. Asia where the Asian sides doctor pitches, bunsen burners & raging turners, to beat better oppositions like SA/Eng/Aus & perhaps NZ as well. So they get to say that the conditions or pitches beat them, not the opposition.

    Let's see what Chappel says if the Aussies do 11-nil in India
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0H1T View Post
    This goes without saying but we, mainly South Asians, do consider this a blight when we lose abroad. Losing heavily, of course gets harsher reactions especially from the home fans.

    The narrative however these days is that "in these conditions" i.e. Asia where the Asian sides doctor pitches, bunsen burners & raging turners, to beat better oppositions like SA/Eng/Aus & perhaps NZ as well. So they get to say that the conditions or pitches beat them, not the opposition.

    Let's see what Chappel says if the Aussies do 11-nil in India
    Who needs enemies if asians are dissing against each other saying others home track bullies where as aus and eng celebrate home wins and hype their teams as world beaters particularly england

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    "Australia Should Stop Inviting Pakistan if they play like this" :Chappell

    Been very harsh

    Also says 'Misbah was not inspirational at all.'

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    He's right about the Misbah part.

    Chappell at times talks absolute rubbish.Guess India should stop inviting Australia and Pakistan should stop inviting England to the UAE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Been very harsh

    Also says 'Misbah was not inspirational at all.'
    Will it be a vice-versa thing? I mean Australia would stop touring UAE?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    If we aren't competitive in 2019 than surely it would be the End for 5 years atleast.
    We are there every 5-6 years anyway
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    Well Pakistan toured 5 times in last 20 years..... 1995-6, 1999-2000, 2004-5, 2009-10, 20016-17
    India toured 5 times as well.... 1999-0, 2003-4, 2007-8, 20011-2, 2014-5. Only addition was 2016 ODI series. Otherwise I think its same number of chances that both got.


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    Did he say the same about WI last year?

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    If Australia are still invited to Asia where they are poor, than why will they stop Asian teams from visiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridibans_16 View Post
    Well Pakistan toured 5 times in last 20 years..... 1995-6, 1999-2000, 2004-5, 2009-10, 20016-17
    India toured 5 times as well.... 1999-0, 2003-4, 2007-8, 20011-2, 2014-5. Only addition was 2016 ODI series. Otherwise I think its same number of chances that both got.
    We toured 1991-2 as well.

    Edit - I guess that goes beyond 20 years.

    My bad.


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    He has a point though . I am am a die hard Pakistan fan and I stopped watching after day 3 of Test 2 as i knew then tt it was all over and we would be hammered. We all know it. test 3 was a farce I am told as there was no fight left .

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    Well then Australia would not get to tour anywhere, not even SA after the thrashing they got there in ODI's.

    Maybe Chappel just loves trolling fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva View Post
    Well then Australia would not get to tour anywhere, not even SA after the thrashing they got there in ODI's.

    Maybe Chappel just loves trolling fans.
    The side which went to SA ODIs was honestly an Aussie C team

    I think a full strength one will win easily in ODIs

    They are clearly head and shoulders above any ODI team

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    For all the naysayers: Would Pakistan pull off a draw like this in Australia next year?

    Heck, Australia even won a test on their most recent India tour.

    Also, for next summer, NZ has been picked over Pakistan for Australia to play their boxing day and new year's test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torpedo View Post
    For all the naysayers: Would Pakistan pull off a draw like this in Australia next year?

    Heck, Australia even won a test on their most recent India tour.

    Also, for next summer, NZ has been picked over Pakistan for Australia to play their boxing day and new year's test.
    It's not like Pakistan had a dedicated spot for the boxing day and new year's test.... The opposition for that test match keeps changing.



    Also while we were on the top we nearly pulled off a win(not a draw) last time we were there chasing 450 odd.

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    Pakistan haven't won a Test in Oz even with their star studded past teams.

    2010 Tour some players fixed the Sydney Test and deliberately underperformed. It was horrific.

    2016 Tour Oz declared in 4 out of 5 Test innings played. Hardly a contest. So it will take some performing before Pakistan gets the Boxing Day spots back.


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