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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    just to add. Pakistan played some useless under 23 asia cup type tournament before imam was selected for Pakistan...even there he was barely batting at 70. There are always questions of what to do with wrongly selected players, but as always pakistani selectors will leave these decisions till too late.
    I couldn't find the scorecards of this absurd tournament but 70? Shameful.

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    I don't think he did out of nepotism.

    He's not an angel. But he's been guilty of stacking accumulators in the squad before because of his lack of strategy and understanding of modern ODIs. He most likely just saw the numbers of the kid and threw him in. Him, Sarfraz and Mickey for whatever reason are not willing to try Babar / Hafeez / Sarfraz himself as openers, and the domestic scene is mostly barren. Sahibazada has only played a handful of games.

    I blame his lack of foresight and planning than his nepotism. if he keeps this up he'll be forgotten amongst the Iqbal Qasims and Haroon Rasheeds.

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    Our bench strength was non-existent. We need some hitters and some pace bowlers on the bench. Not Nawaz. We needed Mukhtar, Maqsood, Sahibzada and Ahmed Bashir. Players that give us something different to our current squad. Like some other Pakpassioners we have too many accumulators in the line up besides Fakhar at the top order we don't have other hitters. Shadab, Faheem and Hasan come to late in the order. Malik on hits spinners and the others to have the power or muscle to hit the big ones. What makes it worse is that they can't rotate strike either, something that NZ where doing tremendously well. Our team needs some to fixing up.

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    Revolutionary strikes again. What a squad selected for the T20 series.

    Inzamam is dishonest and corrupt. Needs to be sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Revolutionary strikes again. What a squad selected for the T20 series.

    Inzamam is dishonest and corrupt. Needs to be sacked.
    Dont think he is dishonest and corrupt. He just doesnt want to leave the team entirely in the hands of youngsters. He will always select the likes of hafeez, malik, shehzad and a couple of other seniors. Just not enough guts. Mohammad nawaz is one of his bigger blunders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Revolutionary strikes again. What a squad selected for the T20 series.

    Inzamam is dishonest and corrupt. Needs to be sacked.
    Probably for the first time in my life and hopefully the only time I agree with you. It is pure politics, crony build-up what inzamam is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Dont think he is dishonest and corrupt. He just doesnt want to leave the team entirely in the hands of youngsters. He will always select the likes of hafeez, malik, shehzad and a couple of other seniors. Just not enough guts. Mohammad nawaz is one of his bigger blunders.
    Man, no one else takes T20Is as seriously as we do. Wish we could move on beyond the likes of Hafeez and Malik, at least in this format.


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    As long as his friends and favorites are happy, who cares about competing?

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    The Champions Trophy has bought the Revolutionary time till the World Cup, so he can continue with his corrupt ways and ensure that we crash out of the World Cup in humiliating fashion.

    That is exactly what is going to happen because he is going to persist with the squad that fluked the Champions Trophy.

    The next WT20 - whenever it is - is also going to be a disaster.

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    @Bilal7 you canít justify this squad man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    @Bilal7 you canít justify this squad man...
    He declared Inzamam as the greatest CS in Pakistan history before he announced a single squad. He will justify the selections of course.

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    Sarfraz and Mickey deserve some blame as well, along with Inzi. They keep mentioning the need to be aggressive and adapt to modern standards, yet they don't stand up against the selection of Hafeez, Shehzad, Amin, Harris etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Sarfraz and Mickey deserve some blame as well, along with Inzi. They keep mentioning the need to be aggressive and adapt to modern standards, yet they don't stand up against the selection of Hafeez, Shehzad, Amin, Harris etc.
    I saw Inzi recently speak here in Canada. Someone asked him a question and he talked about the modern game being more aggressive. Yet, players who play aggressive and overlooked again and again.

    Fakhar just got lucky to play in CT cause they had too.

    Squad selection makes no sense. I still think Inzi prob has a soft spot for guys like Hafeez that he played with and is basing his judgment on what Hafeez did in the nets 10 years ago.


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    He's got no clue. Absolutely none.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    I saw Inzi recently speak here in Canada. Someone asked him a question and he talked about the modern game being more aggressive. Yet, players who play aggressive and overlooked again and again.

    Fakhar just got lucky to play in CT cause they had too.

    Squad selection makes no sense. I still think Inzi prob has a soft spot for guys like Hafeez that he played with and is basing his judgment on what Hafeez did in the nets 10 years ago.
    Hafeez was shunted early during Inzamamís reign and didnít get a look in until 2010. I donít think Inzamam honestly rates him as a player, but Hafeez is getting a free ride because of his seniority.

    He will not be dropped unless Arthur takes a stand, who was surely behind his axing from the Test squad after the England tour in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    @Bilal7 you canít justify this squad man...
    You want Inzamam to throw youngsters into the line of fire against the likes of Guptil and Boult, in their own backyard?

    Inzamam has dropped non-performing seniors before and he'll do it again. These things do not happen overnight however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    You want Inzamam to throw youngsters into the line of fire against the likes of Guptil and Boult, in their own backyard?

    Inzamam has dropped non-performing seniors before and he'll do it again. These things do not happen overnight however.
    Inzamam has thrown newbies into an ICC tournament before. Where was the line of fire then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paklvr_82 View Post
    @Bilal7

    How can u call someone crook who was convicted by a board had to amend their tribunal in middle of trial in order to protect themselves from subpoenas rofl.
    Rofl u speaking without even basic sense, google Farhan and Mukhtar Ahmed they are better than your flop corrupt selector Inzamam who has selected zero players from outside PSL. Check how many chances Inzamam gave to Ahmed Shehzad that weer accorded to Mukhtar or any other player.
    Imam was dropped twice before he made that 'international hundred' and averaged 36, when Inzamam chose his nephew there were around 4 youngsters in domestic circuit that 40-50 and many more awho averaged higher than his nephew.
    If Inzamam would have had his way convicted jailed player Salman Butt and Karman Akmal would be in the team. This inzamam sent unfit Umar Akmal for Champions Trophy only to be embarassed as Akmal was returned by the coach after failing fitness test.
    Inzamam is the reason there is not one replacement for any batsman, he is being paid for selecting his nephew , an Akmal [Babar Azam], Hafeez and Malik
    Complete nonsense this guy is spewing.
    Sharjeel needs to be completely cleared of any wrongdoing before he can be selected. Simple as that. As for that comment about Butt, you need to provide some proof for this claim of yours but it is evident from this rant of yours that you are incapable of taking accountability for what you say.

    Sahibzada had played about 20 List 'A' matches, last I checked. That is not enough experience for him to be thrown into international cricket. Mukhtar Ahmed is a useless hack that got his chance at the international level but failed. No need to bring him back unless he has substantially improved his game. Shehzad, for all his faults, has international centuries in South Africa and New Zealand. He's certainly better than the likes of Mukhtar Ahmed and Awais Zia which is why he keeps getting recalled.

    No one cares that he was dropped twice. That is a part of the game. What people do care about is that he scored a century on debut, look good on the crease and has a mature head on his shoulders. He clearly deserved his selection based on this alone. If he has scored a duck, then you questioning his place would have made sense.

    Imam, Fahim and Junaid were very left-wing choices made by Inzamam because these guys were arguably not the best domestic performers before their selection but their selection and subsequent success just tells you why Inzamam is being paid to select players and the likes of you pay to make fantasy selections. It's not all about stats. If it were, a computer program would have replaced all of our selectors.

    Kamran was tried out because he was having a great time at the domestic scene. He was selected on merit but after his abysmally bad performances for the national team, was dropped. You look like a fool when you say that Inzamam is "being paid" to select the Akmals in the team when the Akmals are not even in the team.

    Malik averaged how much last year? Are you even capable of remembering what happened before the first two matches in New Zealand? Ask @Mamoon how awesome Malik is. As for Hafeez, he will be dropped for the next tour if he keeps failing with the bat. He couldn't have been dropped without being tried as a specialist batsman first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Inzamam has thrown newbies into an ICC tournament before. Where was the line of fire then?
    There were seniors in the team to guide those guys. The best teams always have a mix of experienced guys and youthful lads. Hafeez should be shortly dropped if he keeps failing and then the only seniors in the team will be Malik (who was absolutely world class in 2017), Sarfaraz (Captain Kewl) and Azhar/Shehzad (who have been decent enough, I think).

    By 2019, I expect only Sarfaraz and perhaps Malik to still be there. The T20 team has even more time to transition because the next tournament is in 2020.

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    its not corruption, but a tragic mix of defensive mentality and ineptitude.
    his era a captain was largely about giving stability and security to players to give their best before chucking them out, and a blind belief in the magical powers of seniority.
    Wasim as captain carried forward some of Imran's traits in terms of throwing in young guys in the fire for sink or swim. Inzi is more measured and deliberate. The problem is that he is not keeping in mind the well established mediocrity of the established players he keeps on recalling and vital strike rate stats of new players (hence imam's selection).
    Seems like Inzi's MO is to spot key players that look good in domestic cricket, then wait for them to perform in PSL and then debut them thereafter.
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    Not sure you lot can justify calling Inzy corrupt - where's the evidence?
    Im no fan of Hafeez or Malik but what are they doing that's different to any other Pak player over the last 10 years? Getting in then throwing it away!
    Pak cricket domestically isn't competitive so it's very difficult to pull out new players and expect them to perform in NZ.
    I think Inzy is helping build the team - give the guy a break

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    He is the 2nd worst selector after Yes man Mohsin Khan. He has potential to be first (negative way)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hafeez was shunted early during Inzamam’s reign and didn’t get a look in until 2010. I don’t think Inzamam honestly rates him as a player, but Hafeez is getting a free ride because of his seniority.

    He will not be dropped unless Arthur takes a stand, who was surely behind his axing from the Test squad after the England tour in 2016.
    How you rate Sallu, Mohsin, Qasim, Qadir and Moin compare to Inzamam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hafeez was shunted early during Inzamam’s reign and didn’t get a look in until 2010. I don’t think Inzamam honestly rates him as a player, but Hafeez is getting a free ride because of his seniority.

    He will not be dropped unless Arthur takes a stand, who was surely behind his axing from the Test squad after the England tour in 2016.
    Forgot to add Haroon in the list as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    He's got no clue. Absolutely none.
    This!

    Especially his Test selections, if you kinda go through F.C. numbers, his decisions are just down right appalling (to say the least).

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    Sohaib even half fit should have been on NZ tour.

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    I think his T20 squad selection was largely based on the players who were already in NZ. Calling up an entire new set of players for a 3 match T20 series on an away tour doesn't make much sense, so he stuck with the core that was already there and perhaps the management wanted to avoid the hassle of applying for 7-8 new visas. The only new additions are Umar Amin and Shehzad. Hence I'm willing to cut him some slack but yes, this T20 squad is absolutely horrendous and full of accumulators. He can repay this decision by kicking out any players who will fail on this tour and are not suited to ODIs/T20s, especially the likes of Hafeez, Azhar, Shehzad, Imam (not a LOI player) etc.

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    Inzamam was exposed when he sent an unfit Umar Akmal to England for the Champions Trophy, who cleared a fitness test under his supervision.

    Wonít be surprised if he misjudged Maqsoodís fitness; he has no clue about fitness and it was obvious throughout his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    How you rate Sallu, Mohsin, Qasim, Qadir and Moin compare to Inzamam?
    I donít see any difference between Inzamam and the others. However, Inzamam is worse because of the pious image that he has created for himself and his reputation.

    Moin was a relatively better selector and so was Aamer Sohail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savecricket View Post
    Not sure you lot can justify calling Inzy corrupt - where's the evidence?
    Im no fan of Hafeez or Malik but what are they doing that's different to any other Pak player over the last 10 years? Getting in then throwing it away!
    Pak cricket domestically isn't competitive so it's very difficult to pull out new players and expect them to perform in NZ.
    I think Inzy is helping build the team - give the guy a break
    He is morally as corrupt as anyone - though we might not see it in conventional way. To realize that, you have to go back in past and watch the 2nd final of ICL between Lahore Badshah & Hyderabad Heros. Ul Haq was Captain, mentor, spiritual leader of that LB side.

    Then, he facilitated a mutiny against an appointed Captain, when he had no stake in the game - after retirement.

    Taking bribe isnít the only example of corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    He is morally as corrupt as anyone - though we might not see it in conventional way. To realize that, you have to go back in past and watch the 2nd final of ICL between Lahore Badshah & Hyderabad Heros. Ul Haq was Captain, mentor, spiritual leader of that LB side.

    Then, he facilitated a mutiny against an appointed Captain, when he had no stake in the game - after retirement.

    Taking bribe isn’t the only example of corruption.
    If you're referring to oathgate, Shoaib Malik has confirmed that took place was in Mohd. Yousuf's hotel room in Joburg in the 09 CT, not Inzamam's house as is the popular myth.

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    Player Inzi &Co Selects in Deserved to be selected in
    Imam ODIs Tests
    Umer Amin T20's ODIs and Tests
    Harris Sohail T20/ODI/Test Test/ODI
    Hafeez ODI/T20 NONE (until he can bowl)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    If you're referring to oathgate, Shoaib Malik has confirmed that took place was in Mohd. Yousuf's hotel room in Joburg in the 09 CT, not Inzamam's house as is the popular myth.
    May be, didnít read anything on this. By the way, wasnít Malik already ousted in 2009 CT. I think, YK was Captain and Afridi deputy. CT was after T20 WC - Malik led last probably in Jan against SRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clean n cool View Post
    Player Inzi &Co Selects in Deserved to be selected in
    Imam ODIs Tests
    Umer Amin T20's ODIs and Tests
    Harris Sohail T20/ODI/Test Test/ODI
    Hafeez ODI/T20 NONE (until he can bowl)
    HAris cant be in t20.umar can be in odi and test but t20 is not his format.hafeez none.IMAM only tests if sami aslam fails.

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    His selection of Mohammad Nawaz for the NZ tour is his worst decision so far as the chief selector.

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    Since both pacers Junaid Khan and Usman were injured so why did not he selected another pacer like Mir Hamza? Instead he selected Mohammad Nawaz the spinner times millions. Cannot believe how bad of a chief selector he has become. Absolutely clueless.

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    Dont get personal with each other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Since both pacers Junaid Khan and Usman were injured so why did not he selected another pacer like Mir Hamza? Instead he selected Mohammad Nawaz the spinner times millions. Cannot believe how bad of a chief selector he has become. Absolutely clueless.
    It's like he only selects players from one pool. Only the PSL can force Inzi to make changes and get some fresh faces in.


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    Time for Sethi to sack this clown. He does not have any clue of domestic cricket. Take Mohammad Wasim or Bazid Khan as selector

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    Inzi got this very wrong

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    As simple is that pakistani senior players/selectors have no shame

    Simple logic is, Pakistani selectors can't see that so called senior batsmen haven't won a single match for Pak..
    if the selectors can't find out when a match is telecast, how can any one expect they will figure out in domestic.
    Bunch of.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohnip View Post
    Simple logic is, Pakistani selectors can't see that so called senior batsmen haven't won a single match for Pak..
    if the selectors can't find out when a match is telecast, how can any one expect they will figure out in domestic.
    Bunch of.....
    What did the youngster beauties do today? Babar, Fakhar, Fahim, Sarfaraz, Shadab and 2017's superstar, Malik should have been enough to chase down 260. Hasan was a little expensive and Amir picked up no wickets. Were these guys wrong selections too?

    Like I said before, don't deflect blame from the players. The selectors can select the likes of Smith and Warner for Pakistan but if the players themselves don't play well, you're not winning a single game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    What did the youngster beauties do today? Babar, Fakhar, Fahim, Sarfaraz, Shadab and 2017's superstar, Malik should have been enough to chase down 260. Hasan was a little expensive and Amir picked up no wickets. Were these guys wrong selections too?

    Like I said before, don't deflect blame from the players. The selectors can select the likes of Smith and Warner for Pakistan but if the players themselves don't play well, you're not winning a single game.
    I second that! Surprised to see that people here are blaming the coach and selectors for the non-performance of the players. Wonder what would these folks comment when the replacements also perform the same way. Captains and Players have to take the full responsibility for this loss and not the coach or selectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    I second that! Surprised to see that people here are blaming the coach and selectors for the non-performance of the players. Wonder what would these folks comment when the replacements also perform the same way. Captains and Players have to take the full responsibility for this loss and not the coach or selectors.
    Blaming Inzi would only make sense if the public enemies were the only ones under-performing, not when the entire team has been listless.


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    Inzi has not been fair to his job and thats disgraceful. He has let the nation down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    You want Inzamam to throw youngsters into the line of fire against the likes of Guptil and Boult, in their own backyard?

    Inzamam has dropped non-performing seniors before and he'll do it again. These things do not happen overnight however.
    We must stop worshiping personalities, praise performances.

    In modern day cricket, no body being selected just because on the basis of so-called "seniority". We have a lot of examples. While Pakistan, we are still facing the myth of seniority.

    Simple formula, who ever score runs, will continue, who ever fails will be dropped. Consistency doesn't means to score 1 fifty in series, consistency means that you are atleast scoring 2-3 fifity plus runs in every 5 matches including a century.

    So far Azhar Ali, Hafeez & Malik aren't scoring runs, they are being picked again and again after continous failures. Drop them (hafeez n malik) bring youngsters inn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Blaming Inzi would only make sense if the public enemies were the only ones under-performing, not when the entire team has been listless.
    i think blaming Inzi isn't enough. Although there was no justifications for the selection of Hafeez, Malik & Nawaz but yes Sarfraz could have done alot on his own.

    For example he could have came at No.3 himself or he could have sent Fahim Ashraf at No.3 after the early fall of Azhar Ali. But he tried nothing may be because of the fear of selfish so-called seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    I second that! Surprised to see that people here are blaming the coach and selectors for the non-performance of the players. Wonder what would these folks comment when the replacements also perform the same way. Captains and Players have to take the full responsibility for this loss and not the coach or selectors.
    Your second and third does'nt matter. The way he has selected Hafeez, Malik, Azam and Shehzad for the T20 series should be investigated. From game point of view how can any selector pick players who have failed to complete 30 runs in average in the whole series, in todays match the team folded on 16 for 6. This is not NORMAL in any sport that a selector gets a free pass. Shoaib Malik averages 9 in New Zealand, Hafeez averaging 15 in this NZ tour, Babar Azam is averaging 6 [with consecutive ducks]. Youngsters and bowlers are making all the runs in the series.
    Their strike rate is even worse. Ahmed Shehzad has a strike rate of 70 in T20, where the world over a player of T20 cant go lower than 100-105.
    Inzamam did not select any replacement for the middle order, only one opener that is his nephew Imam. This issue has lost us the series. There are no resources for the team management, the fans are crying for a lower middle order player to replace the pitiful middle order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    We must stop worshiping personalities, praise performances.

    In modern day cricket, no body being selected just because on the basis of so-called "seniority". We have a lot of examples. While Pakistan, we are still facing the myth of seniority.

    Simple formula, who ever score runs, will continue, who ever fails will be dropped. Consistency doesn't means to score 1 fifty in series, consistency means that you are atleast scoring 2-3 fifity plus runs in every 5 matches including a century.

    So far Azhar Ali, Hafeez & Malik aren't scoring runs, they are being picked again and again after continous failures. Drop them (hafeez n malik) bring youngsters inn.
    I would exclude Malik from the list of non-performing seniors, even though I personally am not a fan. He was great in 2017 and you really cannot justify dropping him even if he fails in the two remaining games. He should be given a longer rope, especially since we cannot go into a World Cup with zero experienced hands.

    Azhar and Hafeez really do need to be dropped. They've failed terribly, albeit so has everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamstead_joy View Post
    Your second and third does'nt matter. The way he has selected Hafeez, Malik, Azam and Shehzad for the T20 series should be investigated. From game point of view how can any selector pick players who have failed to complete 30 runs in average in the whole series, in todays match the team folded on 16 for 6. This is not NORMAL in any sport that a selector gets a free pass. Shoaib Malik averages 9 in New Zealand, Hafeez averaging 15 in this NZ tour, Babar Azam is averaging 6 [with consecutive ducks]. Youngsters and bowlers are making all the runs in the series.
    Their strike rate is even worse. Ahmed Shehzad has a strike rate of 70 in T20, where the world over a player of T20 cant go lower than 100-105.
    Inzamam did not select any replacement for the middle order, only one opener that is his nephew Imam. This issue has lost us the series. There are no resources for the team management, the fans are crying for a lower middle order player to replace the pitiful middle order.
    I think Asad Shafiq should be recalled for ODIs to bat at No.5.

    Sarfraz at No.4 and Babar at No.3 (or vice versa).

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    I think Asad Shafiq should be recalled for ODIs to bat at No.5.

    Sarfraz at No.4 and Babar at No.3 (or vice versa).
    You didn't reply in the other thread when I asked about Asad's strike-rate in the One-Day Cup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    You didn't reply in the other thread when I asked about Asad's strike-rate in the One-Day Cup.
    He indeed might be called - trust me.

    What I hear is that 3 wickets in first 10 overs was because of reckless batting, and that 3 wickets is a bigger concern than 16 runs in first 15 overs (?) - so you never know............

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    He indeed might be called - trust me.

    What I hear is that 3 wickets in first 10 overs was because of reckless batting, and that 3 wickets is a bigger concern than 16 runs in first 15 overs (?) - so you never know............
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    Only Inzamam has the clout and standing in Pakistan cricket to kick out these seniors.

    I don't understand someone who symbolised courage and aggression with the bat with would select such meek and cowardly batsmen. I can understand jelly spined journeymen selectors like Iqbal Qasim and Haroon Rasheed being reluctant to discard high profile names and easily buckling under media lobbying pressure.

    USE your authority after this series, you have credit in the bank after the CT, and say enough is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Only Inzamam has the clout and standing in Pakistan cricket to kick out these seniors.

    I don't understand someone who symbolised courage and aggression with the bat with would select such meek and cowardly batsmen. I can understand jelly spined journeymen selectors like Iqbal Qasim and Haroon Rasheed being reluctant to discard high profile names and easily buckling under media lobbying pressure.

    USE your authority after this series, you have credit in the bank after the CT, and say enough is enough.
    The ignorant masses fail to realize that Inzi has been subtly eradicating the seniority culture in the team. Whether it is supporting Sarfaraz Ahmed over Hafeez for the limited overs captaincy, finally perma-retiring Afridi from all formats and not giving into Younis Khan's demands of 'gimme captaincy or I no play'.

    He's given so many youngsters a chance across formats, so much so that our test side is completely TTF-free. The ODI team will rid itself of Azhar and Hafeez soon enough.

    However, those are the limits of his powers. After that, if the promising youngsters being selected continue failing, Pakistan cricket is going to go the way of Sri Lanka, God forbid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The ignorant masses fail to realize that Inzi has been subtly eradicating the seniority culture in the team. Whether it is supporting Sarfaraz Ahmed over Hafeez for the limited overs captaincy, finally perma-retiring Afridi from all formats and not giving into Younis Khan's demands of 'gimme captaincy or I no play'.

    He's given so many youngsters a chance across formats, so much so that our test side is completely TTF-free. The ODI team will rid itself of Azhar and Hafeez soon enough.

    However, those are the limits of his powers. After that, if the promising youngsters being selected continue failing, Pakistan cricket is going to go the way of Sri Lanka, God forbid.
    who are the promising yougsters failed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    who are the promising yougsters failed?
    Don't waste your time. Our friend will defend Revolutionary's honor even if he selects himself at the age of 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamstead_joy View Post
    Your second and third does'nt matter. The way he has selected Hafeez, Malik, Azam and Shehzad for the T20 series should be investigated. From game point of view how can any selector pick players who have failed to complete 30 runs in average in the whole series, in todays match the team folded on 16 for 6. This is not NORMAL in any sport that a selector gets a free pass. Shoaib Malik averages 9 in New Zealand, Hafeez averaging 15 in this NZ tour, Babar Azam is averaging 6 [with consecutive ducks]. Youngsters and bowlers are making all the runs in the series.
    Their strike rate is even worse. Ahmed Shehzad has a strike rate of 70 in T20, where the world over a player of T20 cant go lower than 100-105.
    Inzamam did not select any replacement for the middle order, only one opener that is his nephew Imam. This issue has lost us the series. There are no resources for the team management, the fans are crying for a lower middle order player to replace the pitiful middle order.
    PCB should permanently get rid off Ahmed Shazad, Hafeez, Malik, Akmal Brothers, Wahab Riaz & Sami Aslam from all the formats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The ignorant masses fail to realize that Inzi has been subtly eradicating the seniority culture in the team. Whether it is supporting Sarfaraz Ahmed over Hafeez for the limited overs captaincy, finally perma-retiring Afridi from all formats and not giving into Younis Khan's demands of 'gimme captaincy or I no play'.

    He's given so many youngsters a chance across formats, so much so that our test side is completely TTF-free. The ODI team will rid itself of Azhar and Hafeez soon enough.

    However, those are the limits of his powers. After that, if the promising youngsters being selected continue failing, Pakistan cricket is going to go the way of Sri Lanka, God forbid.
    He must get rid of Hafeez, Malik, Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad & Wahab Riaz.

    Tell which promising youngster has failed ?? ... Babar went unlucky twice in 3 matches, who else you are talking about ? .. Do expect Shadab or Fahim or Hasan to score centuries ?? For God sake brother. Just come out defending so called seniors. See that these so-called seniors has given us in the previous World Cups, ICC tournaments, foreign tours, Nothing they have given but only humiliation.

    Bring back those players who are scoring runs in the domestic. Try them for 4-5 matches. If they fails, drop them also and try another one. Keep repeating this process and those who perform should remain in the team and those who don't perform, should be kicked out. We must stop worshiping seniority and personalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    He must get rid of Hafeez, Malik, Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad & Wahab Riaz.

    Tell which promising youngster has failed ?? ... Babar went unlucky twice in 3 matches, who else you are talking about ? .. Do expect Shadab or Fahim or Hasan to score centuries ?? For God sake brother. Just come out defending so called seniors. See that these so-called seniors has given us in the previous World Cups, ICC tournaments, foreign tours, Nothing they have given but only humiliation.

    Bring back those players who are scoring runs in the domestic. Try them for 4-5 matches. If they fails, drop them also and try another one. Keep repeating this process and those who perform should remain in the team and those who don't perform, should be kicked out. We must stop worshiping seniority and personalities.
    This comment can only be taken seriously if you were joking about recalling Asad Shafiq to the ODI team. Shehzad is a good T20 batsman and Riaz is a good test bowler. No reason to mix formats.

    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    who are the promising yougsters failed?
    Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Fahim, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have all been below par.


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    Ahmed Shehzad is a good T20 batsman?!?

    The 2 matches he played against a second string first class level Sri Lanka in UAE, Ahmed Shehzad scored 22 off 32 deliveries with a 68 strike rate in a T20 match and 24 off 27 . He was dropped from the third t20 and Umar Amin [a more odi player than t20] scored with better strike rate.

    Can accept Babar and Amir were below par but they can't be adjudged as youngsters, they are on their 2nd tour and 3rd tour for New Zealand.

    If it was not for Fakhar, Fahim, Shadab and Hassan thanks to our batting lineup Pakistan would've been all out for 120 in the 2nd odi and 90 something in the 1st odi. They rescued Pakistan from a shameful debacle thanks to our seniors Hafeez, Azam, azhar and Malik. Fakhar scored almost 50% of the total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamstead_joy View Post
    @Bilal7

    Ahmed Shehzad is a good T20 batsman?!?

    The 2 matches he played against a second string first class level Sri Lanka in UAE, Ahmed Shehzad scored 22 off 32 deliveries with a 68 strike rate in a T20 match and 24 off 27 . He was dropped from the third t20 and Umar Amin [a more odi player than t20] scored with better strike rate.

    Can accept Babar and Amir were below par but they can't be adjudged as youngsters, they are on their 2nd tour and 3rd tour for New Zealand.

    If it was not for Fakhar, Fahim, Shadab and Hassan thanks to our batting lineup Pakistan would've been all out for 120 in the 2nd odi and 90 something in the 1st odi. They rescued Pakistan from a shameful debacle thanks to our seniors Hafeez, Azam, azhar and Malik. Fakhar scored almost 50% of the total.
    Azam is still a youngster. Our last tour of New Zealand happened last year or so. The bowlers' main job is to take wickets and restrict the scoring which they haven't done very well. I agree that calling Shehzad a "good" T20 batsman was inaccurate. He's decent at best, mostly because he gets fifties with some frequency and also has a T20I ton.

    The whole team has underperformed in New Zealand. Let's not pretend our losses are solely down to Azhar, Hafeez and Malik.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Don't waste your time. Our friend will defend Revolutionary's honor even if he selects himself at the age of 50.
    To be fair, Inzamam's ODI batting in 2005 was more progressive than Azhar Ali in 2018.

    We have somehow gone backwards in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    To be fair, Inzamam's ODI batting in 2005 was more progressive than Azhar Ali in 2018.

    We have somehow gone backwards in time.
    You mean 2015, in 2005 his batting was more progressive than most in this entire galaxy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    To be fair, Inzamam's ODI batting in 2005 was more progressive than Azhar Ali in 2018.

    We have somehow gone backwards in time.

    There is no precedent in the past such biased selections would've been accepted or made.

    The board was much more stable and professional with chairmans [having cricket or strong administrative background] running the organization.
    There is no instance a player like Hafeez and Malik would've even be in the nets where Pakistan's 90s playing XI practiced.
    Shoaib Malik was selected as a bowler all rounder in 99 for injured Saqlain and was dropped later.

    Just check the amount of odis the national team has played, check if there have been any Pakistan A tours planned by the board. It has been a total disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    This comment can only be taken seriously if you were joking about recalling Asad Shafiq to the ODI team. Shehzad is a good T20 batsman and Riaz is a good test bowler. No reason to mix formats.



    Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Fahim, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have all been below par.

    Do you really believe that Wahab Riaz is a good test bowler ?? .. Tell me his single performance in his whole test career (except srilanka and other B grade teams).

    you can't win test matches, unless you have 4 lethal match winning bowlers. Aamir Junaid Hasan and many other bowlers do has that tendancy. Neither we need that match fixer Asif nor we need pathetic Wahab Riaz.

    Asad Shafiq nearly won a Test match for Pakistan against Australia in Australia, something which scraps like Shahzad Hafeez Malik can only dream of. They can only score pipty (50) against Srilanka West Indies Zimbabwe and compare themselves with Kohli. Lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    This comment can only be taken seriously if you were joking about recalling Asad Shafiq to the ODI team. Shehzad is a good T20 batsman and Riaz is a good test bowler. No reason to mix formats.



    Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Fahim, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have all been below par.
    they were still better than the so called seniors....Babar and fakhar have done good job so far and the moment thay failed the result is obvious.fahim.hassan have been top performers.only imam is a bit failue and u know the reason.we need youngsters on merit not 90s openers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    This comment can only be taken seriously if you were joking about recalling Asad Shafiq to the ODI team. Shehzad is a good T20 batsman and Riaz is a good test bowler. No reason to mix formats.



    Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Fahim, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have all been below par.
    If shahzad is a good t20 batsman according to you then the discussion ends here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Azam is still a youngster. Our last tour of New Zealand happened last year or so. The bowlers' main job is to take wickets and restrict the scoring which they haven't done very well. I agree that calling Shehzad a "good" T20 batsman was inaccurate. He's decent at best, mostly because he gets fifties with some frequency and also has a T20I ton.

    The whole team has underperformed in New Zealand. Let's not pretend our losses are solely down to Azhar, Hafeez and Malik.
    Azhar, Hafeez & Malik are the prime culprits.

    Lets see what youngsters and Sarfraz (the king) did :

    Shadab was just outstanding, Fahim Hasan Rumman were giving their best.

    Sarfraz remained unlucky in the first match, while he remained not out in the 3rd ODI.

    Babar remained unlucky twice in 3 matches so far.

    Fakhar was brilliant in the first ODI and got out in the third ODI.

    Imam was just a useless selection. Just because he is nephew of Inzi
    Now come to Azhar Malik and Hafeez :


    Azhar - failed in all 3 ODIs so far.

    Malik - failed in all 3 ODIs so far.

    Hafeez - failed in all 3 ODIs so far. (except that lucky 60). Including an easy drop catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Azam is still a youngster. Our last tour of New Zealand happened last year or so. The bowlers' main job is to take wickets and restrict the scoring which they haven't done very well. I agree that calling Shehzad a "good" T20 batsman was inaccurate. He's decent at best, mostly because he gets fifties with some frequency and also has a T20I ton.

    The whole team has underperformed in New Zealand. Let's not pretend our losses are solely down to Azhar, Hafeez and Malik.
    I have ran out of words
    this effort is simply ludicrous.

    Shehzad made a T20 ton [only once] in 2014 against Bangladesh, and he has made just 4 50s in 4 years against West Indies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. His record against other 7 teams is simply not worth it to even be discussed. His average against New Zealand is pathetic which is why we are questioning the wisdom of Inzamam selecting him. Its more reasonable, Inzamam should select himself based on his performance against New Zealand in 2005/6 if Ahmed Shehzad is being considered for doing something in 2011.

    HE is a completely failed batsman post 2015 still he has been regularly picked for unknown reasons.

    These five Fakhar, Fahim, Hassan, Shadab, Rumman are actually challenging kiwis and doing extra work.
    Where Amir has failed to take any wicket bowling in the wind and still bowling below par. Faheem is actually helping, although they were'nt assigned to bowl with the new bowl spell against the wind and getting Pakistan a wicket. Rumman is a t20 bowler but he has tried to overcome by doing superb death bowling. Shadab Khan is PAkistan's batting backbone in New Zealand if he fails Pakistan even can't complete 100. They are bowling and batting for Pakistan, carrying the shameless seniors on their shoulders.

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    Inzimam should continue. But if sacked, then Rashid Latif should be the Chief Selector.

    Thanx to Inzi bhai for choosing Sarfraz as captain. Thanx to Inzi bhai for selecing young players like Fakhar, Shadab, Hasan, Fahim, Rumman, etc etc. He is gradually taking the seniority myth out of the team. He did brilliantly by dropping Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad, Wahab Riaz,

    I'm thankful to Inzi and hope that he will soon get us rid of Hafeez & Malik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Inzimam should continue. But if sacked, then Rashid Latif should be the Chief Selector.

    Thanx to Inzi bhai for choosing Sarfraz as captain. Thanx to Inzi bhai for selecing young players like Fakhar, Shadab, Hasan, Fahim, Rumman, etc etc. He is gradually taking the seniority myth out of the team. He did brilliantly by dropping Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad, Wahab Riaz,

    I'm thankful to Inzi and hope that he will soon get us rid of Hafeez & Malik.
    Bro, don't mind, you are my good pal and new member here - would you mind to share which PAK city you live or come from?

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    Credit to Inzy for introducing so many youngsters in the team. Aside from a couple of selections, he has been very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Inzimam should continue. But if sacked, then Rashid Latif should be the Chief Selector.

    Thanx to Inzi bhai for choosing Sarfraz as captain. Thanx to Inzi bhai for selecing young players like Fakhar, Shadab, Hasan, Fahim, Rumman, etc etc. He is gradually taking the seniority myth out of the team. He did brilliantly by dropping Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad, Wahab Riaz,

    I'm thankful to Inzi and hope that he will soon get us rid of Hafeez & Malik.
    Malik ain't going anywhere in t20s, hafeez is out already

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    Must continue after this has been declared as the 'Golden Era' of Pakistan cricket.


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