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    What about Ijaz Ahmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    I also feel his perforamnce in Australia was below par... And I feel he has to go... don't think he is a bad captain, I feel the critics never wanted him in the side..
    I supported him till England tour but he's been terrible in ODIs. He's a star in Tests and where he should focus on.

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    Akmal jaani thora dimaagh istamaal karo


    "Sarfraz is like oxygen for this team" - Misbah-ul-Haq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    I supported him till England tour but he's been terrible in ODIs. He's a star in Tests and where he should focus on.
    Yes his time is up, I have supported him, but he just doesn't look into it anymore

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    :


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    What is with all the injuries? Malik, Imad etc;

    What happened as I missed it.

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    Babar Azam isn't some golden boy, just another player. But defending Azhar Ali and Misbah (in ODIs) while slacking one of the most promising batsman from a country which produces batsmen of poultry calibre is pure bullsh.

    Don't be shocked when people get called out for it.

    Babar himself doesn't have the most amazing power game. But neither do Kohli or Root. What he can do is try to be a player who can score dobules and singles at will and can slide in a four to keep a 100+ strike rate like Kohli. Altho whether he can or not remains to be seen.

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    Umar swinging blindly but at least he is swinging


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    39.3
    Cummins to Umar Akmal, FOUR
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    Cummins to Umar Akmal, no run, slower ball outside off, Akmal slogs and misses

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    what an selfish batting this from Babar azam I would have kicked him out, but really by SK kudos


    jos butler a hockey player???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekpakistani View Post
    dude . Babar is the first pakistani player since 1981 to score a 100 again Australia in Australia .. give some credit where its due ...
    Its a big favor to us when you play half your innings at a strike rate of 60... and end up with a strike rate of 90.. but get out when your main job has to be done... he should become immortal now

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    I also feel his perforamnce in Australia was below par... And I feel he has to go... don't think he is a bad captain, I feel the critics never wanted him in the side..
    You have to set your standard above school cricket.

    Before critics, he should have stepped down before WI Series.

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    MS dhoni would have been very useful here.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haz95 View Post
    Rather than typing 'lol' to what I wrote, why don't you actually expand on whatever nonsense you're trying to insuniate?

    They're all opening batsmen thriving in this era while none of them can last a single over of actual swing and/or seam bowling?
    guptill and sharma's batsman-ship is actually of a very high quality so its ridiculous to club them with sharjeel or hales for that matter

    if you cannot see that i dont need to spell it out and will continue to 'lol'

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    Its a big favor to us when you play half your innings at a strike rate of 60... and end up with a strike rate of 90.. but get out when your main job has to be done... he should become immortal now
    come on .. off the whole team .. you pick on one play who scores a century ..

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    Time for Umar to open. Enough of this rubbish we have at the top.

    Sharjeel
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    Don't save her
    She don't wanna be saved

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    What a catch !!

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    our tail is unusally long today. Match over.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    It will be a daylight robbery if Babar 100 overshadows Sharjeel

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    Rizwan's career is over for the time being I feel. He got a chance in the absence of Sarfraz but can't capitalise

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    Hopefully, they'll pick another one as Sarfu's back-up for ODI.

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    Rizwan has contributed next to nothing with the bat on this tour.

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    What a rubbish player!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Rizwan's career is over for the time being I feel. He got a chance in the absence of Sarfraz but can't capitalise
    Hopefully.......


    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedking View Post
    what an selfish batting this from Babar azam I would have kicked him out, but really impressed by SK kudos
    Reminded me of selfish Dravid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    You have to set your standard above school cricket.

    Before critics, he should have stepped down before WI Series.
    He whitewashed Windies as a captain...helped us qualify for CT 2017... was the reason he was persisted with..

    England the whole team was pretty bad, but we managed to chase 300 in the end...

    Aus was the end of the line, as I predicted it would be for him if he didn't perform...

    It honestly doesn't matter what you do as a captain as long as you score as a batsman to be honest.. this is the culture Pakistan belongs too.

    Azhar has been decent as captain, its just the whole team is pretty bad

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    Rizwan and few others need to be sent back to domestic for a few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser_Soze View Post
    It will be a daylight robbery if Babar 100 overshadows Sharjeel
    Don't worry , no one will remember either of those two innings. Warner scored 170 plus.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    guptill and sharma's batsman-ship is actually of a very high quality so its ridiculous to club them with sharjeel or hales for that matter

    if you cannot see that i dont need to spell it out and will continue to 'lol'
    Indeed. Which is why they're both rivalling Hobbs and Gavaskar as test batsmen.

    If such logic is the case, then Umar Akmal too is a batsman of the utmost highest calibre.

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    Looks like akmal will get a 50 and retain his place. Everything going wrong for Pakistan.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Can we have 3 Sharjeel and 3 Babar Azam for top 6 ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Time for Umar to open. Enough of this rubbish we have at the top.

    Sharjeel
    Umar
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    Sharjeel
    Umar
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    Haris
    Sarfy (c/Wk)
    Shahzaib
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    Imad
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    Would try this.


    Pakistan is that kid who never studies for his exams but is surprised when he fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    He whitewashed Windies as a captain...helped us qualify for CT 2017... was the reason he was persisted with..

    England the whole team was pretty bad, but we managed to chase 300 in the end...

    Aus was the end of the line, as I predicted it would be for him if he didn't perform...

    It honestly doesn't matter what you do as a captain as long as you score as a batsman to be honest.. this is the culture Pakistan belongs too.

    Azhar has been decent as captain, its just the whole team is pretty bad
    So you don't count Babar's performances against West Indies, infact you take away his 100's vs WI when it comes to his average in every debate, yet here you are waxing lyrics about Azhar by bringing up the whitewash vs WI. The whitewash which was largely helped by Babar.

    Have some shame and show SOME objectivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    guptill and sharma's batsman-ship is actually of a very high quality so its ridiculous to club them with sharjeel or hales for that matter

    if you cannot see that i dont need to spell it out and will continue to 'lol'
    Want to add that I'd rather see Rohit and Guptill bat in full flow than Root, Kane or Smith at their best. Both are just something else when in full flow and can hit some glorious sixes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Looks like match over for Shoaib Malik hope it's not to serious.

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    Looks like a face saving career saving knock by Umar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekpakistani View Post
    come on .. off the whole team .. you pick on one play who scores a century ..
    I get it he scored a century... but people in his defence say 'he is young' which honestly pisses me off.. this excuse doesn't come up for anyone else, alot of people have debut'ed for Pakistan.. when you reach International stage, whether you are young, or old, your performance is equal.. you both have the same responisbility as 9 others in the team..

    This rate is not on.. if you want to anchor, anchor it correctly.. getting out after reaching a 100 is as criminal as getting someone else out by playing slowly to get to into a respectable score for yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saqib View Post
    Looks like match over for Shoaib Malik hope it's not to serious.
    How far behind is your stream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Rizwan has contributed next to nothing with the bat on this tour.
    smashes a lot of myths

    for longest time (Eng tour, wi series) PP hipsters wanted him to replace 'slow, can't-handle-pressure' Sarfaraz and couldnt help but cry on the injustices being meted out to Rizwan and how a potential world class player was not being played due to 'karachi quota'

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    time for moral victory time .. can we score 300 ?

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    Akmal playing for a ticket to Barbados


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    Umar should close his eyes and slog a few out of park.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    I get it he scored a century... but people in his defence say 'he is young' which honestly pisses me off.. this excuse doesn't come up for anyone else, alot of people have debut'ed for Pakistan.. when you reach International stage, whether you are young, or old, your performance is equal.. you both have the same responisbility as 9 others in the team..

    This rate is not on.. if you want to anchor, anchor it correctly.. getting out after reaching a 100 is as criminal as getting someone else out by playing slowly to get to into a respectable score for yourself
    Your last two lines I agree with completely.

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    Umar akmal finding some form it seems

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    2 in a row


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    India scored 271 chasing 372 against Australia in Australia ...can we beat that?


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    So you don't count Babar's performances against West Indies, infact you take away his 100's vs WI when it comes to his average in every debate, yet here you are waxing lyrics about Azhar by bringing up the whitewash vs WI. The whitewash which was largely helped by Babar.

    Have some shame and show SOME objectivity.
    Yes yes... Babar was star of the series... We are talking about Azhar's captaincy here..

    People also forget about Azhars 100 in the final game... that didn't make much news either..

    He's been very poor as a batsman for most people

    I am reminded almost everyday about Babar's 3 100s against WI...and he is once in a generation talent
    Last edited by waleed88; 26th January 2017 at 11:04.

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    Want Umar to score a quick fire 50+

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    If Amir can chip in with a 20 ball 35, it will become interesting.


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    Any update on Malik's Injury ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    He whitewashed Windies as a captain...helped us qualify for CT 2017... was the reason he was persisted with..

    England the whole team was pretty bad, but we managed to chase 300 in the end...

    Aus was the end of the line, as I predicted it would be for him if he didn't perform...

    It honestly doesn't matter what you do as a captain as long as you score as a batsman to be honest.. this is the culture Pakistan belongs too.

    Azhar has been decent as captain, its just the whole team is pretty bad

    Even you could lead PAK to 3-0 against that WI lot - 10 men was more than enough.

    Regrading your last line, I actually think exactly opposite - kick out Azhar, MoHa, Rizwan & Wahab, if required Malik as well - pick Sarfy as Captain & Amir as deputy; pick proper replacements for those 5/6 - still it's quite a decent unit.

    Despite Azhar as Captain & those ancient lot - this is probably the best effort by a touring side in AUS since 2012 & surprisingly, Aussies picked their possible best attack for the bi lateral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    Yes yes... Babar was star of the series... We are talking about Azhar's captaincy here..

    People also forget about Azhars 100 in the final game... that didn't make much news either..

    He's been very poor as a batsman for most people

    I am reminded almost everyday about Babar's 3 100s against Australia...and he is once in a generation talent
    You're praising his captaincy by mentioning his whitewash proudly against a team that you dismiss when counting Babar's performances. And the whitewash which would not have been possible by Babar's 100s. Are you blind to your hypocrisy?

    Sharam karo torhi si.

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    Lol

    Is pathetic rizwan already out?

    Seen enough of him

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    Moral victory for us

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    So first target is ......... 271
    Then cross ................ 300


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    Don't understand why they are playing Amir today? May be Rahat is there for practicing Gazal .....

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    Amir joins the Party


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    amir Amir Amir

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    Amir is one of the better strikers of a cricket ball in this team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Even you could lead PAK to 3-0 against that WI lot - 10 men was more than enough.

    Regrading your last line, I actually think exactly opposite - kick out Azhar, MoHa, Rizwan & Wahab, if required Malik as well - pick Sarfy as Captain & Amir as deputy; pick proper replacements for those 5/6 - still it's quite a decent unit.

    Despite Azhar as Captain & those ancient lot - this is probably the best effort by a touring side in AUS since 2012 & surprisingly, Aussies picked their possible best attack for the bi lateral.
    I agree with you to the extent that Azhar's time is up... this was bound to happen eventually.. Pakistani ODI captaincy is always the biggest talking point in cricket's history.. more than even Test Matches...

    Its in ODI where Misbah was bashed, and its in ODIs where Afridi was loved by everyone in the 2011 world cup..

    However its also the most controversial, everyone knows captain can do little to motivate a team that has dejected shoulders..

    Younis KHan had to leave captaincy despite reaching the semi final of 2009 edition of CT.. and won you the WC t20

    Its always the most controversial, most conspired upon, and the most gossiped about by the TV experts..

    Malik was popularly removed from captaincy 1- 1.5 years into his tenure and the 'rebuilding phase' scrapped after the WC 2007

    This Azhar story is nothing new
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    wow.... fireworks everywhere .....


    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Don't understand why they are playing Amir today? May be Rahat is there for practicing Gazal .....
    Yeah man I would have rested Amir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana Mastana View Post
    What is with all the injuries? Malik, Imad etc;

    What happened as I missed it.
    Nobody willing to share anything on this....Okay then!

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    Krlo gall!!!

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    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Umar looked good today. Too bad he has to come in when the game is lost. Has to open


    Don't save her
    She don't wanna be saved

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    akmal over achieved his target .. expected 40 of him .. and he scored 46 ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Umar looked good today. Too bad he has to come in when the game is lost. Has to open
    yeah that might not be a bad idea .. he and sharjeel . can really set the tempo

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    good innings Umar Akmal he has booked his place for WI which is good he is one of our best players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    You're praising his captaincy by mentioning his whitewash proudly against a team that you dismiss when counting Babar's performances. And the whitewash which would not have been possible by Babar's 100s. Are you blind to your hypocrisy?

    Sharam karo torhi si.
    No need to argue with him.He criticize people not because of performance but personal dislike.

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    oh ....we crossed 372 mark.....


    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    You're praising his captaincy by mentioning his whitewash proudly against a team that you dismiss when counting Babar's performances. And the whitewash which would not have been possible by Babar's 100s. Are you blind to your hypocrisy?

    Sharam karo torhi si.
    Whitewash involves the team... cannot be done by one player..

    Azhar was the captain so the credit goes to him,

    Infact the star of the series was Imad and not Babar...

    Our scores were sub 300 in all 3 ODIs..

    If not for Imad, maybe these totals could've been chased down

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    Whitewash involves the team... cannot be done by one player..

    Azhar was the captain so the credit goes to him,

    Infact the star of the series was Imad and not Babar...

    Our scores were sub 300 in all 3 ODIs..

    If not for Imad, maybe these totals could've been chased down
    If not for Babar's centuries our 'sub 300' scores would have been 150, Imad would have been able to done diddy squad.

    You're a little hypocrite is what you are. Every debate you have gone on about demeaning the WI by saying Babar's 100s should not count because they came against the WI and here you are championing Azhar's captaincy against those same opponents.

    I have come across some mind-numbing people on PP, you sir take the bakery.
    Last edited by Pakpak; 26th January 2017 at 11:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    smashes a lot of myths

    for longest time (Eng tour, wi series) PP hipsters wanted him to replace 'slow, can't-handle-pressure' Sarfaraz and couldnt help but cry on the injustices being meted out to Rizwan and how a potential world class player was not being played due to 'karachi quota'
    PP has the worst "experts" on the net!! if the "experts" say a player is the next wasim or tendu just believe the opposite and youll be ok..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    If not for Babar's centuries our 'sub 300' scores would have been 150, Imad would have been able to done diddy squad.

    You're a little hypocrite is what you are. Every debate you have gone on about demeaning the WI by saying Babar's 100s should not count because they came against the WI and here you are championing Azhar's captaincy against those same opponents.

    I have come across some mind-numbing people on PP, you sir take the bakery.
    i think he's eaten the bakery

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    i think he's eaten the bakery
    The hypocrisy is mind-numbing. He is saying our batting made low scores which were defended by Imad, forgetting that had it not been for Babar's 3 centuries ten Imads would not have been able to defend any score. He has also again and again dismissed Babar's averages commenting that his 3 100's against the Windies should not count as they came aagainst a poor opponent, yet Azhar's captaincy against the same opponents count? And that too largely because of Babar Azam's batting success?

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    So wo crossed the 300 mark too....
    Another Moral Victory...
    Whatz Next ???


    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Poor captaincy cost us this game!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    If not for Babar's centuries our 'sub 300' scores would have been 150, Imad would have been able to done diddy squad.

    You're a little hypocrite is what you are. Every debate you have gone on about demeaning the WI by saying Babar's 100s should not count because they came against the WI and here you are championing Azhar's captaincy against those same opponents.

    I have come across some mind-numbing people on PP, you sir take the bakery.
    I never said its a big achievement on Azhar's part... but its an OK achievement..

    I said he whitewashed WI... I didn't say he whitewashed WI which is a once in a generation achievement.. I mentioned his other achievements as captain..

    Its a hard pill to swallow for you, but Azhar was captain in that series...

    However if you're bitter that I didn't praise Babar for that... I did at the time the series was played, however since then we are looking at a pretty selfish Babar Azam, who is error prone, scoring 30s and 40s.. and when he gets to a 100 we see the team and the chase being compromised for his personal gains..

    If this was a knock played in the first innings it was fine..

    But this was played when the chase was on.. Smith allowing easy singles if boundaries weren't being hit.. big difference in being selifhsh and playing for the team
    Last edited by waleed88; 26th January 2017 at 11:30.

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