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    New Zealand [281/9] defeat Australia [257] in the 3rd ODI; win series 2-0

    New Zealand Squad
    KS Williamson*, TA Blundell, TA Boult, NT Broom, C de Grandhomme, LH Ferguson, MJ Guptill, MJ Henry, TWM Latham†, C Munro, JDS Neesham, MJ Santner, TG Southee, LRPL Taylor

    Australia Squad
    AJ Finch*, PJ Cummins, JP Faulkner, PSP Handscomb†, JR Hazlewood, TM Head, SD Heazlett, SE Marsh, GJ Maxwell, B Stanlake, MA Starc, MP Stoinis, A Zampa

    New Zealand won the toss and opted to bat.
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    Good toss won by kiwis . The pitch looks a batting beauty.

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    Starc to brownlie.

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    Starc with the Abid Shaka haircut


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Starc with the Abid Shaka haircut
    Great timings huh?

    I will start watching once Williamson comes.


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    Two from first over

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    Brownile gets that away

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    Starc bowling well here , beating the batsmen even on such a pitch.

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    Starc gets his man , Latham gone

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    Brownile

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    williamson gets a boundary

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    williamson gets a boundary

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    Good shot , three runs added

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Great timings huh?

    I will start watching once Williamson comes.
    He's here.

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    Brownile plays a great cut shot

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    NZ will need similar to 1st ODI here. Really surprised not to see Shodi picked for a Series against Aussies? Biased selection, may be - not sure what is Santner's role against AUS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    NZ will need similar to 1st ODI here. Really surprised not to see Shodi picked for a Series against Aussies? Biased selection, may be - not sure what is Santner's role against AUS?
    Lower order depth. But agree with you on sodi he should have been selected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    NZ will need similar to 1st ODI here. Really surprised not to see Shodi picked for a Series against Aussies? Biased selection, may be - not sure what is Santner's role against AUS?
    Kiwis are going for batting of Santher , but Both he and sodhi could be played , Sodhi could have got wicket on this pitch


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    williamson welcomes stonis with a boundary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lower order depth. But agree with you on sodi he should have been selected.
    This is one of the biggest myth in recent days - remember, 5 months back I wrote that I'll wait to see ENG's ODI revolution against a team more organized & tactful than Azhar Ali's Pakistan? The general strategy of any game is that you strengthen that skill that's handicapped - hence teams with better 50 overs should do better in ODI. Also, a batsman can bat for 50 overs - a bowler can bowl only 10, hence teams should pick at least 40 quality overs, if they can bat, it's added bonus (which was that AUS side with Starc, MoJo, Faulkner & Watson giving 40 overs).

    If top order does their job, Santner is a wastage spot at 7 (or Neesham, whichever way you see), but last time AUS almost chased 285 from 66/6, because Kiwi's didn't have anyone like Sodhi. Today as well, they'll need 300+, which could have been 270, had Sodhi been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Kiwis are going for batting of Santher , but Both he and sodhi could be played , Sodhi could have got wicket on this pitch
    Next year, when Poms will tour AUS, you'll see the bluff of their rejuvenation - 6-0 or 5-1 is waiting for this dynamic ENG side, if Aussies play just about most of their 1st choice attack.

    This is a flawed strategy - runs from bowler who make the team on bowling merit are like gold, that's why there are very few like Imran, Kapil, Akram or Pollock. Bits & pieces work when you are playing soft teams.

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    Stoinis is overrated.

    KW is underrated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This is one of the biggest myth in recent days - remember, 5 months back I wrote that I'll wait to see ENG's ODI revolution against a team more organized & tactful than Azhar Ali's Pakistan? The general strategy of any game is that you strengthen that skill that's handicapped - hence teams with better 50 overs should do better in ODI. Also, a batsman can bat for 50 overs - a bowler can bowl only 10, hence teams should pick at least 40 quality overs, if they can bat, it's added bonus (which was that AUS side with Starc, MoJo, Faulkner & Watson giving 40 overs).

    If top order does their job, Santner is a wastage spot at 7 (or Neesham, whichever way you see), but last time AUS almost chased 285 from 66/6, because Kiwi's didn't have anyone like Sodhi. Today as well, they'll need 300+, which could have been 270, had Sodhi been there.

    I'm just giving you a reason as to why he was selected. You do need all rounders but I think England go overboard with there all rounders. Lol Moen bowls 6 or 7 overs and gets hammered, he bats too late so is not impacting the game.

    But disgree with what you said about England not competing vs Australia. I think they can challenge Australia.

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    This is what I mean when I say Williamson lacks impact in LO, he was on 29 off 22 but is now out after getting to 37 off 42. Kohli,Root, and Smith would have certainly ensured that the strike increased.

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    This is why Australia's attack is so difficult to accelerate against. The quality doesn't drop after the first two. They're at you relentlessly from 1 to 50.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    This is what I mean when I say Williamson lacks impact in LO, he was on 29 off 22 but is now out after getting to 37 off 42. Kohli,Root, and Smith would have certainly ensured that the strike increased.
    They each have their own weaknesses. When Kohli is in bad form, he is really in bad form. Root is prone to brain fades. Smith is vulnerable early in his innings. And Williamson gets bogged down.


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    I would have picked Ish over Santner, he doesn't really do much with the bat to justify being picked ahead of a specialist spinner who is quite good in LOI's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    This is what I mean when I say Williamson lacks impact in LO, he was on 29 off 22 but is now out after getting to 37 off 42. Kohli,Root, and Smith would have certainly ensured that the strike increased.
    He gets bogged down way to easily once the bowlers tighten up. It was painful to watch him bat towards the end of his innings.

    Doesn't have a creative bone in his body to try get the bowler thinking, he thinks it's better to get bogged down and wait for the bad delivery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    This is why Australia's attack is so difficult to accelerate against. The quality doesn't drop after the first two. They're at you relentlessly from 1 to 50.
    A quality batsmen would have been able to get them off their lines and lengths by shuffling around.


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    Good partnership developing , but 320 would be par score here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    A quality batsmen would have been able to get them off their lines and lengths.
    Apart from De Villiers, I haven't seen anyone do it without giving their wicket away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Stoinis is overrated.

    KW is underrated.
    Stonis overrated, by who?.

    He only made the team because of resting others.

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    84 . 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Apart from De Villiers, I haven't seen anyone do it without giving their wicket away.
    Smith and Kohli are two others who I think would do well against this attack.


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    Taylor gets that away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Smith and Kohli are two others who I think would do well against this attack.
    Kohli struggled to accelerate against SA's attack in India so I doubt it. Smith, no chance. They'll work him over very quickly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    He gets bogged down way to easily once the bowlers tighten up. It was painful to watch him bat towards the end of his innings.

    Doesn't have a creative bone in his body to try get the bowler thinking, he thinks it's better to get bogged down and wait for the bad delivery.

    Basically this. He is a clone of Amla in LO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    They each have their own weaknesses. When Kohli is in bad form, he is really in bad form. Root is prone to brain fades. Smith is vulnerable early in his innings. And Williamson gets bogged down.

    They all have weakness of course but root,smith,and virat don't lack impact in LO like williamson does.

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    12 off that over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    They each have their own weaknesses. When Kohli is in bad form, he is really in bad form. Root is prone to brain fades. Smith is vulnerable early in his innings. And Williamson gets bogged down.
    How did you come up with Smith being vulnerable early in his innings.

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    Taylor four boundaries in 19 balls

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    Hazlewood looks fatigued. Should've been rested by now.


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    Tiny ground. Not even a single boundary is 70m. Abit of a joke really

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    Taylor another boundary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    Tiny ground. Not even a single boundary is 70m. Abit of a joke really
    Australia were dismissed for 190 odd the last time they played here.


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    Stonis gets the ball

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    Boundary number 7 for taylor

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    Taylor was 4 when Brownlie had got into the 40s. He's on 44 now, Brownlie's on 46

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    Brownile scores fifty

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    Kiwis need to push there run rate

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    Both batters batting on fifties , one of them has to take it on.

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    Kiwis can reach 330 today.

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    Taylor

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    Kiwis need to target one boundary every over here.

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    Review by Aussies !

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    Brownile gone

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    180 / 3

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    Taylor on 80

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    Faulkner gets broom

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    Aussies bowling tight here , boundaries have dried.

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    300 does not look like enough on this pitch

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    Is this match live on sky?

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    I reiterate it's incredibly difficult to accelerate against this attack. They've got three bowlers hitting the top of the splice every ball at length, then Faulkner varying his pace with cutters, seam balls, back of the hand slower balls that bounce on you and Zampa is a quite skilled wicket to wicket bowler. Who do you target?

    To score against them you need to play quality cricketing shots which is impossible to do every ball. The odds will always be against you. If you successfully connect two, you're likely to mistime or edge the third. Eventually one will have your name on it because you're trying to put away very good deliveries with extra bounce every ball. And that's how they trap batsmen, they relentlessly attack the stumps or just outside. They don't have any bowlers batsmen can target. Faulkner and Zampa are the weaker links but they also excel at their own craft which is to restrict.


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    I reckon NZ will get 263 which Australia will chase down with three wickets down.


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    Kiwis not likely to get 300 here

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    214 / 6

    42 overs

  74. #74
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    Jan 2013
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    1987 2011 2015
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    The Aussies have bowled really well but that's some real bad batting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

  75. #75
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    Dec 2010
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    Taylor needs to hit the next gear here

  76. #76
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    Santher

  77. #77
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    Dec 2010
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    Santher

  78. #78
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    Dec 2013
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    Connecticut
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    Finally some intent from the Kiwis!


    “I've never lost a game I just ran out of time.” Micheal Jordan

  79. #79
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    226 / 6

    44 overs

  80. #80
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    Dec 2010
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    33 balls left , Kiwis need to get 50 more here

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