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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    Just like they fought against us in Bang in the ODI series in 2015?

    And what if Bang hang on in this test? What would be your opinion then?

    Bangladesh are continuously improving. Especially over the last 3-4 years they've had a marked improvement in all forms of the game.
    Ha, thought we were talking about tests? In ODIs, I won't take away anything Bangla has achieved in the last few years. Bangla drew the series against England on rank turners. On the same turners, Sri Lanka whitewashed Australia. See the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    Just like they fought against us in Bang in the ODI series in 2015?

    And what if Bang hang on in this test? What would be your opinion then?

    Bangladesh are continuously improving. Especially over the last 3-4 years they've had a marked improvement in all forms of the game.
    They might fight it out only to lose in the last session on 5th day instead of being in the 1st/2nd session. My opinion doesn't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    Ha, thought we were talking about tests? In ODIs, I won't take away anything Bangla has achieved in the last few years. Bangla drew the series against England on rank turners. On the same turners, Sri Lanka whitewashed Australia. See the difference.
    England are a better side against spin the sub continent.

    Again, I am not saying that Bang will beat SL. But they wont lose 3-0. It would be more like 2-1, or 1-0. In a few years, it will be the other way round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Smith is still going strong and scoring everywhere.

    Kohli and Smith are in a league of their own atm and are separating themselves from the rest of the pack.
    Smith is running at all time prime form for quite some time. Despite what others think, ICC points are a very good indicator of how great a player is at a particular moment. He is very close to Bradman in that regard.

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    Bangladesh bowling at very slow pace now!! might have just 22 overs in this session, Mushfiqur looking at a heavy fine I would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekcirc View Post
    Smith is running at all time prime form for quite some time. Despite what others think, ICC points are a very good indicator of how great a player is at a particular moment. He is very close to Bradman in that regard.
    What happens in India with Smith could define how he is perceived for now. If he does well, he will be slightly ahead for Kohli for now. If he doesnt do well, then Kohli takes over.

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    Rahane and Pujara at the crease, when quick runs are required...lol

    Pujara needs to perform.... (to get selected for an IPL team)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    What happens in India with Smith could define how he is perceived for now. If he does well, he will be slightly ahead for Kohli for now. If he doesnt do well, then Kohli takes over.
    Smith has bucketload of eperience in India...courtesy IPL... He will do well am sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    Rahane and Pujara at the crease, when quick runs are required...lol

    Pujara needs to perform.... (to get selected for an IPL team)
    Puji was going faster than Kohli .. so dont mock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    Smith has bucketload of eperience in India...courtesy IPL... He will do well am sure...
    IPL and test cricket are two completely different things. Bowlers have a much better chance with a red ball. Also, depends on what pitches we give these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekcirc View Post
    Puji was going faster than Kohli .. so dont mock!
    Yea I know, then fuel got over...

    anyways... Let the guys get some decent practice before the aussie series... Just score as much as possible till tea

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    India might get to a lead of 425. Add another half an hour after tea, get to 450 and declare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    IPL and test cricket are two completely different things. Bowlers have a much better chance with a red ball. Also, depends on what pitches we give these guys.
    I know bruh! But I am expecting Smith to perform...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    I know bruh! But I am expecting Smith to perform...
    Yup. Lets hope for India's sake he doesnt. If Smith and Warner get going, it could be toast for us.

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    50 more runs, and we should declare.

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    If these 2 push a bit more, we might even get to 450 by tea. Then just declare.

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    If India declares at tea, do we lose time for change for innings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    Yup. Lets hope for India's sake he doesnt. If Smith and Warner get going, it could be toast for us.
    Dont expect Warner to perform that well in India.

    Smith is the only real headache, he can just stay on and pile on runs with supports from the newly built middle order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekcirc View Post
    Dont expect Warner to perform that well in India.

    Smith is the only real headache, he can just stay on and pile on runs with supports from the newly built middle order!
    If Warner gets a flat pitch such as this, you never know man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    If India declares at tea, do we lose time for change for innings?
    No, but Kohli haven't been fastidious about losing those two overs in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion__ View Post
    No, but Kohli haven't been fastidious about losing those two overs in the past.
    Yup. But I reckon he would be looking at 450. Scoring 110 runs peers session over 4 sessions is not easy.

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    Enough runs..Should declare it..

    4 sessions and 450+..

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    Isnt 458 enough?

    I think Virat reckons that it is better to put Bangladesh completely out of the game by giving theman impossible chase and then going on an all out attack with the ball.

    I guess Virat is targetting 500

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    disregard my above comment...lol... India have declared

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    I get reminded of Sehwag's comments, " Bangladesh is an ordinary side as they can't take 20 wickets in a test. they have managed 10 in two innings in total while leaking 800+ runs.

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    Isn't it risky to give 458 runs to chase in 4 sessions on this belter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Isn't it risky to give 458 runs to chase in 4 sessions on this belter?
    No, but it is risky to give your bowlers less than 120 overs to take 10 wickets on this belter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Isn't it risky to give 458 runs to chase in 4 sessions on this belter?
    {I assume} Virat Kohli wants to give bangladesh a a feeling that they can chase the target, so that they can go after the bowling and lose wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    No, but it is risky to give your bowlers less than 120 overs to take 10 wickets on this belter.
    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    {I assume} Virat Kohli wants to give bangladesh a a feeling that they can chase the target, so that they can go after the bowling and lose wickets.
    Well...you are right. An argument can be made for both sides.

    But it sure is an attacking move.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    Should score 200 runs in 30 overs and then declare. And lol at those who said Bangladesh would compete better than England or other overseas teams. Though they(Eng/SA/NZ/Aus) too get hammered in India, they are still a quality, can play other facets of bowling and are good in other areas of the game while Bangla players are bad in batting, poor in bowling, awful in fielding. Overall dreadful. Still a long way to go for them to even match Sri Lankan side of late.
    Try again. If this was an indian team touring england for the first time ever and they would have performed like Bangladesh, fans like you would have been jumping up and down. They have performed better than most of the teams and will only get better if they keep playing india in india.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Well...you are right. An argument can be made for both sides.

    But it sure is an attacking move.
    This is what good teams like Australia used to do. Declare at such a juncture that opposition doesnt really feel justified in going tuk tuk from the first ball itself. Somewhere in the heads Bangladeshi players would still be flirting with the idea of going for a win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Try again. If this was an indian team touring england for the first time ever and they would have performed like Bangladesh, fans like you would have been jumping up and down. They have performed better than most of the teams and will only get better if they keep playing india in india.
    How different are the conditions in climate and pitches between India and Bangladesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Try again. If this was an indian team touring england for the first time ever and they would have performed like Bangladesh, fans like you would have been jumping up and down. They have performed better than most of the teams and will only get better if they keep playing india in india.
    1. Except that the conditions in England are completely different to that of India. Not the case with Bangladesh.

    2. No, they have been poorer than other teams when you take batting+bowling+fielding into account.

    3. Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    1. Except that the conditions in England are completely different to that of India. Not the case with Bangladesh.

    2. No, they have been poorer than other teams when you take batting bowling fielding into account.

    3. Try again.
    Conditions are same but not the atmosphere.Why haven't sri lanka won a test series in India yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Conditions are same but not the atmosphere.Why haven't sri lanka won a test series in India yet?
    Sri Lanka have won against India at home, which Bangladesh can only dream of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Conditions are same but not the atmosphere.Why haven't sri lanka won a test series in India yet?
    So the apt comparison would and should be within Asian teams shouldn't it ?

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    Should have had an extra slip in Ashwin's previous over

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    Ashwin gets Tamim :

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    We appealed for an lbw, but were rewarded with a catch....lol

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    Badi gandi umpiring hai .. Had Kohli not reviewed, Tamim would still be batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Conditions are same but not the atmosphere.Why haven't sri lanka won a test series in India yet?
    Bro, the only thing Bangladesh have managed here is to take this game to 5th day, Leaked 800+ runs only took 10 wickets and gave away 300 run lead. That's still a minnow territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    We appealed for an lbw, but were rewarded with a catch....lol
    Kohli went for the catch. Was clear from his expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshanrocks View Post
    We appealed for an lbw, but were rewarded with a catch....lol
    Kohli appealed for catch straight away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    Kohli went for the catch. Was clear from his expression.
    Oh cool. Well Done Kohli

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    Need to get Mominul and Shakib before the end of close play today.

    For some reason, Sarkar just doesnt seem that threatening in Tests.

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    The last delivery where Ashwin gave a 4 to Mominul reveals a LOT about Ashwin.

    He could have VERY easily bowled a normal good length delivery and ended the over in a tight way. But he went with a slightly round arm action and imparted spin to land it in the good length area from the around the wicket and turn it away to get the edge.

    He missed the mark and the ball was cut for a boundary. Cricinfo calls it a poor delivery which it was but with no mention about what his intentions were.

    Its the fact that he is willing to make things happen instead of just waiting for it is what makes Ashwin who he is.

    Can't hold a few boundaries against him.


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    Need Umesh to bowl now.

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    Spinners are roughing the ball for Umesh ji.


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    annoys me no end when the commies call Ishant the 'senior colleague'

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    The last delivery where Ashwin gave a 4 to Mominul reveals a LOT about Ashwin.

    He could have VERY easily bowled a normal good length delivery and ended the over in a tight way. But he went with a slightly round arm action and imparted spin to land it in the good length area from the around the wicket and turn it away to get the edge.

    He missed the mark and the ball was cut for a boundary. Cricinfo calls it a poor delivery which it was but with no mention about what his intentions were.

    Its the fact that he is willing to make things happen instead of just waiting for it is what makes Ashwin who he is.

    Can't hold a few boundaries against him.
    Good observation! Which means rookies are handling it who may have got the knowledge for the game, but not enough insight!

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    At least Bangladesh are sweating the Indians a bit (instead of a 2.5 day finish which would have made us lazy!) This should be good practice before the next big series!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamLakhan View Post
    At least Bangladesh are sweating the Indians a bit (instead of a 2.5 day finish which would have made us lazy!) This should be good practice before the next big series!
    2.5 day finish can't happen on these pitches.

    India is made to toil like crazy on godawful pitches.


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    I don't understand the fans in banglaforum, they are talking about dropping soumya but not Tamim. What has tamim done in NZ and now, the guy just eats biryani and goes on free tour. What an embarrassment to the nation this guy has been, tamim and imrul both needs to be fired


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    Sakar needs to go boom boom


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    2.5 day finish can't happen on these pitches.

    India is made to toil like crazy on godawful pitches.
    Based on reputation of Bangladesh (I know that's harsh, but that's in contrast to the extreme confidence their fans have!) Nothing to do with the pitch though, a team like Australia can falter on this pitch too purely based on psychology and poor play!

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    Lol another phatta, it seems these are the best times for visiting teams to visit India, shame on BCCI

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamLakhan View Post
    Based on reputation of Bangladesh (I know that's harsh, but that's in contrast to the extreme confidence their fans have!) Nothing to do with the pitch though, a team like Australia can falter on this pitch too purely based on psychology and poor play!
    I would be scared of Warner and Smith on these tracks.

    This one at the start looked like Sydney first innings pitch where Aus scores lots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    The last delivery where Ashwin gave a 4 to Mominul reveals a LOT about Ashwin.

    He could have VERY easily bowled a normal good length delivery and ended the over in a tight way. But he went with a slightly round arm action and imparted spin to land it in the good length area from the around the wicket and turn it away to get the edge.

    He missed the mark and the ball was cut for a boundary. Cricinfo calls it a poor delivery which it was but with no mention about what his intentions were.

    Its the fact that he is willing to make things happen instead of just waiting for it is what makes Ashwin who he is.

    Can't hold a few boundaries against him.
    You analyse this way only for him


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    Seeing Saha's keeping, I am really wondering how some fans were questioning his technique and place in the team. He is the text book example of a keeper with perfect keeping technique


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    Great start for Bangladesh. If they don't lose a wicket today, all 3 results could be a possibility.

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    Surely Aus would get rank turners like last time.

    Might play 3 spinners


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    Good catch,good bowling



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    Woohoo two down.

    8 more to go.


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    Rahane is an incredible slip catcher for spinners.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    Sri Lanka can only improve from here. They will become a decent side soon again. Meanwhile Bangladesh will be forever trying to give a "fight".

    Don't think that every team is as slow learner as India mate. So keep things into perspective.

    Do u even know how many tests India won in their first 50 years of test cricket? They were so bad that drawing a match used to be considered as win by team India.


    Compared to them Bangladesh have achieved quite a few things within a very short span of time in test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    I would be scared of Warner and Smith on these tracks.

    This one at the start looked like Sydney first innings pitch where Aus scores lots.
    I would be scared only in LOIs (in India on such pitches), because I know it just takes 1 ball get their wickets even if they keep attacking, and other batsmen in their lineup you know are not that good (don't even have strong lower middle order like us or England). I will be only scared if they possess good bowling line up (not necessarily spinners but even fast bowlers. Starc gets it alright and the other guys surprisingly support him well). That is the only way teams have troubled us in India!

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    Ashwin MUCHHH better this innings.prolly due to starting with new ball


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    Rahane is a bullfrog.

    Gobbles up deliveries.

    7 more to go.


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    Need to get Shakib today

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunRay View Post
    Don't think that every team is as slow learner as India mate. So keep things into perspective.

    Do u even know how many tests India won in their first 50 years of test cricket? They were so bad that drawing a match used to be considered as win by team India.


    Compared to them Bangladesh have achieved quite a few things within a very short span of time in test cricket.
    I like how you used years and not number of matches in that post


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Rahane is a bullfrog.

    Gobbles up deliveries.

    7 more to go.
    Anticipates really well

    Bit like Laxman used to,who I always thought was better slipper than Dravid


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Ashwin MUCHHH better this innings.prolly due to starting with new ball
    That ball turned a bit that's why he got the wicket.

    However earlier on this innings, he was good even when it didn't turn.

    But the main issue is still there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    I like how you used years and not number of matches in that post
    Obviously the facilities 50 years back can be compared to now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    That ball turned a bit that's why he got the wicket.

    However earlier on this innings, he was good even when it didn't turn.

    But the main issue is still there.
    His pace is bit quicker this innings

    Bowling to lefties helps obviously


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    Quote Originally Posted by SunRay View Post
    Don't think that every team is as slow learner as India mate. So keep things into perspective.

    Do u even know how many tests India won in their first 50 years of test cricket? They were so bad that drawing a match used to be considered as win by team India.


    Compared to them Bangladesh have achieved quite a few things within a very short span of time in test cricket.
    We can only laugh at your comment! Those were the times when professional cricket was lot tougher for teams without fair exposure and infrastructure! It took a lot of time (till 90s) for Indian cricket to become completely professional! Till then the cricketers (barring top players) were depending even on Govt. reserved jobs (sports quota) for their living!

    Bangladesh should have actually grown watching India play cricket and developed interest (and playing cricket within their country at least)! Now professional cricket is lot easier with good exposure, we are seeing newer teams like Afghanistan, Ireland, etc, are doing better than Bangladesh! Bangladesh have had enough exposure and they have their own T20 league which is inviting international players! Still you want excuses!

    Actually we are not accusing on the quality of Bangladesh cricket, we know they are improving, even if it is slow. But it is for the way they do the blame games, their claims and their boasting for small achievements!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekcirc View Post
    dude, Sun has set @SunRay a long time ago after I quoted him some juicy true stats about first 200 games for India and Bangladesh. There is dead silence from his keyboard for now!
    No point trying convincing him. His agenda is not to have a fruitful discussion on the sport.

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    Shakib is here for a quick slog .. will dump his team again after throwing away is wicket by making some 40 odd runs and just keep his stats up. Playing as if his team has a lead of 300 runs

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    This Shakib onslaught is making the game interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kong View Post
    Ha, thought we were talking about tests? In ODIs, I won't take away anything Bangla has achieved in the last few years. Bangla drew the series against England on rank turners. On the same turners, Sri Lanka whitewashed Australia. See the difference.

    Bangla have gotten better in limited overs Cricket especially in Odis because these days they regularly play odi series against top teams.


    The only reason behind their improvement In odi cricket is that as a team they have learned the art of building an innings in 50 overs format.


    But if u take a look at their approach in tests especially their batting approach u'll notice that most of their batters play way too many Shots or take risky singles which they shouldn't.


    U can't expect a team to do well in a format if they don't play that format regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    This Shakib onslaught is making the game interesting.
    Dumb play from the so called experienced player, He will throw it away and leave his team on for a sure loss. His statement after first innings brain fade is symptomatic of problem why Bangladesh cant improve in Tests.

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