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    6.5/10 for me. Gave youngsters a chance but that's easy for him because of PSL. I feel he's consulting captain and coach so he can't be blamed alone

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    gutted with the recent squad selection for WI... running around with TTFs, not selecting any youngster... Asif zakir new guy but he scored in tests but given chance in ODIs... INZI is wrist slitting at the moment...saad ali who is avg 60+ in list-a is far more deserving candidate than zakir...

    Im also not very sure, as some say that saad ali, usama, talat are all preserved for the under-23 emerging cup in bangladesh...will see how it goes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    gutted with the recent squad selection for WI... running around with TTFs, not selecting any youngster... Asif zakir new guy but he scored in tests but given chance in ODIs... INZI is wrist slitting at the moment...saad ali who is avg 60+ in list-a is far more deserving candidate than zakir...

    Im also not very sure, as some say that saad ali, usama, talat are all preserved for the under-23 emerging cup in bangladesh...will see how it goes..
    agree that Saad Ali should get a chance. But a huge bonus is that he dropped Umar Akmal. So he's not that bad after all.

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    How can you rate a selector high who would select Hafeez and Misnah ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen4 View Post
    agree that Saad Ali should get a chance. But a huge bonus is that he dropped Umar Akmal. So he's not that bad after all.
    yes but hafeez how come..... there goes everything down the hill.. inzi didnt select him initially for aus ODIs then later on the request of mgmt was sent in and fortunately for him AA got injure and he captain except that match and the inns in playoff he didnt do anything special to note.... in what merit was he selected again for WI were youngsters can be tried against the weaker opposition... i would have given UA another chance being young than to hafeez...it was UA's first series after his comeback and he was not very bad in AUS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    yes but hafeez how come..... there goes everything down the hill.. inzi didnt select him initially for aus ODIs then later on the request of mgmt was sent in and fortunately for him AA got injure and he captain except that match and the inns in playoff he didnt do anything special to note.... in what merit was he selected again for WI were youngsters can be tried against the weaker opposition... i would have given UA another chance being young than to hafeez...it was UA's first series after his comeback and he was not very bad in AUS...
    selection of Hafeez in both Odis and t20s is a blunder, also Tanvir doesn't deserve his t20 spot anymore, Sohail Khan should play t20s and Odis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen4 View Post
    selection of Hafeez in both Odis and t20s is a blunder, also Tanvir doesn't deserve his t20 spot anymore, Sohail Khan should play t20s and Odis
    Mickey Arthur wanted Hafeez and likes both Hafeez n Malik.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Mickey Arthur wanted Hafeez and likes both Hafeez n Malik.
    clearly he dislikes Sohail, otherwise he would have been the first name in the team after being the highest wicket taker in Psl. Hafeez on the other hand is useless.

    politics again in the dressing room
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    Quote Originally Posted by abughio View Post
    This happens sometimes.. also some people are not very good in remembering names
    Agreed. But it does naturally put off regarding someone's professionalism about a field. And to be honest, it does not happen a lot/at all when we're talking off highly professional fields such as Inzi's.


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    His teams for WI are very good apart from one blemish (two, but the other one was to protect the first one).

    He was instructed to pick MoHa & to keep his spot safe - so Inzi picked Asif as backup at number 4. Other than that both squads are very good within limitation. Interestingly, had spot fixing issue not been there, Fakhar would have suffered along with Talat & Saad Ali - Inzi would have picked MoHa & Asif Zakir as cover instead of Fakhar to make sure that MoHa's spot is safe for CT2017.

    Sohail over JK in ODI any day for me, but I guess Arthur had his input here while Tanvir actually makes the T20 squad - he had a great CPL last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen4 View Post
    selection of Hafeez in both Odis and t20s is a blunder, also Tanvir doesn't deserve his t20 spot anymore, Sohail Khan should play t20s and Odis
    the exclusion of azhar ali, sohail khan, saad ali, talat and usama mir are a blunder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    His teams for WI are very good apart from one blemish (two, but the other one was to protect the first one).

    He was instructed to pick MoHa & to keep his spot safe - so Inzi picked Asif as backup at number 4. Other than that both squads are very good within limitation. Interestingly, had spot fixing issue not been there, Fakhar would have suffered along with Talat & Saad Ali - Inzi would have picked MoHa & Asif Zakir as cover instead of Fakhar to make sure that MoHa's spot is safe for CT2017.

    Sohail over JK in ODI any day for me, but I guess Arthur had his input here while Tanvir actually makes the T20 squad - he had a great CPL last time.
    Inzi is keeping his loyalty with hafeez...saad ali would have been perfect number 4 to go with as he is lefti ,more dynamic and young,,,but .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Inzi is keeping his loyalty with hafeez...saad ali would have been perfect number 4 to go with as he is lefti ,more dynamic and young,,,but .....

    Picking MoHa is a sagira gunah - flashy batting when in song, bowling capacity, fielding, game intelligence ... combinded with his experience MoHa can be justified in the squad (I still believe Arthur might carry drinks with him). This is much younger team with few young spinners in it - MoHa would be handy at mentoring them.

    Kabirah gunah is not picking Saad or Talat as back-up, rather calling a player in mid 30s & struggling in recent domestic tournament. That was done only to keep MoHa safe - whatever he does in WI, now Inzi'll use experience, rather lack of that for Saad & Talat for CT in UK.

    Inzi isn't Qasim, Ilyas or Rashid - he knows his job & he knows exactly what he is doing. He has kept Shinwari & Raees in this team with a footnote that depending on performance, some experienced players might be called back in CT - I won't be surprised if Gul or even Sami making a come back for experience .......
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    Amazing how times have changed since Inzi's playing days.

    I still remember after a SAF vs PAK series in the early 90's where Hafeez was opening and got continuous single digit scores, Inzi said something along the lines of never seeing a player so out of their depth at international level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Picking MoHa is a sagira gunah - flashy batting when in song, bowling capacity, fielding, game intelligence ... combinded with his experience MoHa can be justified in the squad (I still believe Arthur might carry drinks with him). This is much younger team with few young spinners in it - MoHa would be handy at mentoring them.

    Kabirah gunah is not picking Saad or Talat as back-up, rather calling a player in mid 30s & struggling in recent domestic tournament. That was done only to keep MoHa safe - whatever he does in WI, now Inzi'll use experience, rather lack of that for Saad & Talat for CT in UK.

    Inzi isn't Qasim, Ilyas or Rashid - he knows his job & he knows exactly what he is doing. He has kept Shinwari & Raees in this team with a footnote that depending on performance, some experienced players might be called back in CT - I won't be surprised if Gul or even Sami making a come back for experience .......
    why would he do that and what is the motive behind it? at the end of the day if team keeps losing then it is the coach, captain and selectors would lose their positions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Picking MoHa is a sagira gunah - flashy batting when in song, bowling capacity, fielding, game intelligence ... combinded with his experience MoHa can be justified in the squad (I still believe Arthur might carry drinks with him). This is much younger team with few young spinners in it - MoHa would be handy at mentoring them.

    Kabirah gunah is not picking Saad or Talat as back-up, rather calling a player in mid 30s & struggling in recent domestic tournament. That was done only to keep MoHa safe - whatever he does in WI, now Inzi'll use experience, rather lack of that for Saad & Talat for CT in UK.

    Inzi isn't Qasim, Ilyas or Rashid - he knows his job & he knows exactly what he is doing. He has kept Shinwari & Raees in this team with a footnote that depending on performance, some experienced players might be called back in CT - I won't be surprised if Gul or even Sami making a come back for experience .......
    if u sum it up then taking him to wi is kebeera gunah..how will u select a player who is continuously failing in doemestic plus psl and above all his age is not suitable to be in any format...forget about his intelligence,,we have mian sab for that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Picking MoHa is a sagira gunah - flashy batting when in song, bowling capacity, fielding, game intelligence ... combinded with his experience MoHa can be justified in the squad (I still believe Arthur might carry drinks with him). This is much younger team with few young spinners in it - MoHa would be handy at mentoring them.

    Kabirah gunah is not picking Saad or Talat as back-up, rather calling a player in mid 30s & struggling in recent domestic tournament. That was done only to keep MoHa safe - whatever he does in WI, now Inzi'll use experience, rather lack of that for Saad & Talat for CT in UK.

    Inzi isn't Qasim, Ilyas or Rashid - he knows his job & he knows exactly what he is doing. He has kept Shinwari & Raees in this team with a footnote that depending on performance, some experienced players might be called back in CT - I won't be surprised if Gul or even Sami making a come back for experience .......
    and off the topic, i think talat is a handy medium pacer and he considers himself to be an all rounder..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    why would he do that and what is the motive behind it? at the end of the day if team keeps losing then it is the coach, captain and selectors would lose their positions...
    Does PAK's ranking suggests that? What has changed after losing 3 Tests against almost minnows these days (WI/NZ)? Who lost his job when PAK came back from Dhaka 4-0 in LO cricket with all 4 match conceding bonus point, if it was applicable? In fact, identical 11 played a Test after the biggest upset in cricket history - losing a Test to Mugabe's Zimboks. And now, after losing last 5 Tests & averaging around 25 as specialist bat, a 43 years young man is retained as Test Captain .........

    There is no accountability - Inzi might lose his job for other reason, but team result doesn't matter much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    and off the topic, i think talat is a handy medium pacer and he considers himself to be an all rounder..
    That's another reason to keep him away as much as possible - next 3 ICC events are in UK, UK & AUS; where the medium pace version of MoHa/Malik will be required. If this kid is taken now & he starts to perform with bat & ball, those 2 will lose their spot in squad. More or less, that had been the case with almost every young all-rounder in last few years - once PAK played a 5 match series in SAF with 4 spinners - MoHa, Malik, Afrdi & Ajmal, in Match ...... when Hammad & Yamin was in their early 20s.

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    Inzamam receiving plaudits from Waqar.
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    Surely he and his team have to watch domestic cricket more frequently but he has introduced some new faces in the team too which earlier selectors don't and that's why Misbah's legacy is missing.

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    As I mentioned, his WI team is far better - just two blemish was to pick MoHa & Asif Zakir. Now, Arthur indeed has dropped MoHa after 1st show (may be in the cover of injury) but, that's not helping much for long term because of Asif - MoHa will go to CT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad10 View Post
    Inzamam receiving plaudits from Waqar.
    Goes to show how Vicky isn't and wasn't the spawn of the devil like some posters made him out to be. His tweets have a hint of scorn in them towards the ex-selectors who weren't willing to include youngsters. Inzi hasn't done a massively better job but I have to admit his selection trend is improving. Hope it continues to improve.



    That being said he did select Muhammad Hafeez for both the ODI and T20 squads recently.



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    Shan Masood is selected and Sami Aslam is dropped, disapointed.

    Otherwise a good squad, happy to see younger players getting a chance in the test squad.


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    Not only the worst, but also the most hypocritical Chief Selector in Pakistan history. Watch him continue with his lip-service of how we need to change our approach, but at the same time, bring people like Azhar back to the squad. I really do feel sorry for Arthur.

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    Is inzi doing his job under any pressure??? @Mamoon


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    With every series he goes further down. 3/10 now. Another failure from WAQAR recommendation for the position. Inzi is in the same league as Iqbal qasim and Haroon rasheed

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    Inzamam is a totally clueless selector- he has made blunders after blunders since he took over this position

    He was never qualified to be a selector in the first place, so its on the chairman. And the chairman himself wasn't qualified to be in his position

    its just a cycle of incompetence all around


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    Worst Chief Selector we have had in my memory of watching cricket. And the worse thing is, he seems like he knows better but the selections are getting more awful with each tour.

    I mean, these announcements of Azhar and Akmal being back were made weeks ago, it shows that during the series against West Indies, made some decisions and sat back. Absolutely no indication he has watched or even thought about the ongoing Pakistan Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nil Dhumrojal View Post
    Is inzi doing his job under any pressure??? @Mamoon
    No pressure. He is a lobbyist.

    Kept his friends happy when he was captain and is still keeping his friends happy. The word merit doesn't exist in his dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No pressure. He is a lobbyist.

    Kept his friends happy when he was captain and is still keeping his friends happy. The word merit doesn't exist in his dictionary.
    That's sad. I had respect for him but now it seems....


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    Objectively speaking, I feel he does not understand the malaise that is afflicting Pakistan cricket and I dont think he is following the domestic performances.

    He has been disappointing only because I expected a lot from him. He has been as good and as bad as the previous selectors. So if you accept that Pakistan strives for mediocrity he has done as good a job as previous selectors.

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    He is playing with more careers than he was in his playing days.


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    2/10.

    Maybe not even that.

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    I think PPers can do a better job as Pakistan selectors

    don't even wanna talk about him now, just so disappointed.

    A failure as chief selector.


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    I doubt he watches domestic and international matches. Seriously doubt.


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    There's no point in persisting with "experience" if that experience has failed in crunch situations time and again.

    The bright points of Inzamam's tenure, such as selecting Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan and Babar Azam given a run in all 3 formats along with a few other selections, is mixed with a lack of ruthlessness to clear out the deadwood.

    For once can we actually select players according to the formats ? I'm amazed its 2017 and we still haven't learnt that.

    Now we have to wait until inevitable debacle at the CT before we begin the rebuilding process yet again.
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    What infuriates me about successive selectors is that year after they opt for experience over youth every time a big tournament comes along. (and our experienced would not make the second eleven of most top ranked teams,...ever).

    In this way they hurt Pakistan twice: the experience mediocre guys will predictably fail, but also you deny the opportunity for younger talent to learn from a tough tour.
    It is far better the fail with youth than with certified/experienced mediocrity.

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    Awww, looks like some people are bum-hurt that he did not select Haris Sohail, who still has to prove his fitness, or Sharjeel Khan, who is a crook. Unlike you guys, our chief selector has to take more things into account than simply who the flavor of the month is.

    It's good that he recalled Umar Akmal, we now have a pretty balanced team and one that will go deep into the Champions Trophy, InshAllah. This is very solid:

    1) Hafeez/Shehzad/Azhar
    2) Fakhar
    3) Babar
    4) Sarfaraz (c) (wk)
    5) Shoaib Malik
    6) Umar Akmal
    7) Imad/Shadab
    8) Amir
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    10) Junaid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Awww, looks like some people are bum-hurt that he did not select Haris Sohail, who still has to prove his fitness, or Sharjeel Khan, who is a crook. Unlike you guys, our chief selector has to take more things into account than simply who the flavor of the month is.

    It's good that he recalled Umar Akmal, we now have a pretty balanced team and one that will go deep into the Champions Trophy, InshAllah. This is very solid:

    1) Hafeez/Shehzad/Azhar
    2) Fakhar
    3) Babar
    4) Sarfaraz (c) (wk)
    5) Shoaib Malik
    6) Umar Akmal
    7) Imad/Shadab
    8) Amir
    9) Riaz
    10) Junaid
    11) Hassan
    A lineup consisting of Junaid, Hafeez, Azhar, and Wahab will go deep into the Champions Trophy


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    Somebody should ask Inzi why he dropped Azhar for WI ODI tour and now selected him back? Inzi basically wasted WI ODI tour by selecting Kami @Saj @MIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Awww, looks like some people are bum-hurt that he did not select Haris Sohail, who still has to prove his fitness, or Sharjeel Khan, who is a crook. Unlike you guys, our chief selector has to take more things into account than simply who the flavor of the month is.

    It's good that he recalled Umar Akmal, we now have a pretty balanced team and one that will go deep into the Champions Trophy, InshAllah. This is very solid:

    1) Hafeez/Shehzad/Azhar
    2) Fakhar
    3) Babar
    4) Sarfaraz (c) (wk)
    5) Shoaib Malik
    6) Umar Akmal
    7) Imad/Shadab
    8) Amir
    9) Riaz
    10) Junaid
    11) Hassan
    We will be knocked out in first round. Won't even win against Lanka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Somebody should ask Inzi why he dropped Azhar for WI ODI tour and now selected him back? Inzi basically wasted WI ODI tour by selecting Kami @Saj @MIG
    This is a serious question that should be asked from our honorary chief selector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Somebody should ask Inzi why he dropped Azhar for WI ODI tour and now selected him back? Inzi basically wasted WI ODI tour by selecting Kami @Saj @MIG
    He tried out Kamran for a series but that did not work so he was forced to go back to Azhar for this series. Kamran was selected because he was our best domestic batsman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    A lineup consisting of Junaid, Hafeez, Azhar, and Wahab will go deep into the Champions Trophy
    Yes, a fake fan like you can keep crying and slitting yoir wrists. I for one cannot wait to see how our boys do in the tournament.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Yes, a fake fan like you can keep crying and slitting yoir wrists. I for one cannot wait to see how our boys do in the tournament.
    I hope you prepare some good excuses for the eventual drubbing we are going to receive. I wonder how you are going to defend Inzi then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    He tried out Kamran for a series but that did not work so he was forced to go back to Azhar for this series. Kamran was selected because he was our best domestic batsman.



    Yes, a fake fan like you can keep crying and slitting yoir wrists. I for one cannot wait to see how our boys do in the tournament.
    This fake fan is actually going to the CT and has made sacrifices to watch his team play. The fake fan in return expects honesty and selection on merit from the PCB and it's employees. Is that too much to ask for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I hope you prepare some good excuses for the eventual drubbing we are going to receive. I wonder how you are going to defend Inzi then.
    If he can defend Ahmed Shehzad's tuk tuk then he can defend anything of course. He rates Shizzy, Wahab and TTFs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    If he can defend Ahmed Shehzad's tuk tuk then he can defend anything of course. He rates Shizzy, Wahab and TTFs
    I even have Junaid Khan in my dp but am gutted that he is selected and this guy is putting him in his fantasy teams LMAO


    I wonder what Bilal bhai's reaction would have been had the CS been someone else.


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    Absolutely pathetic as Chief Selector.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I hope you prepare some good excuses for the eventual drubbing we are going to receive. I wonder how you are going to defend Inzi then.
    You say this right now but a couple of days ago, your ideal team was from the squad that has been selected. One player won't make a difference if these guys don't perform at all. Sarfaraz does not have to select Azhar and Shehzad, if he does not want to. If he does, well then that is his fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    This fake fan is actually going to the CT and has made sacrifices to watch his team play. The fake fan in return expects honesty and selection on merit from the PCB and it's employees. Is that too much to ask for?
    Except that selection has taken place on merit. Hafeez was very good against the Windies, Junaid has been quality since his return as well and while Riaz hasn't been at his best, his record in these tournaments is excellent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    You say this right now but a couple of days ago, your ideal team was from the squad that has been selected. One player won't make a difference if these guys don't perform at all. Sarfaraz does not have to select Azhar and Shehzad, if he does not want to. If he does, well then that is his fault.
    LMAO what sort of logic is this. I give a person a gun and a dagger and force him to kill another person with either and when he does I blame him for murder.

    My ideal teams never had guys like Azhar or Umar Akmal in them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    You say this right now but a couple of days ago, your ideal team was from the squad that has been selected. One player won't make a difference if these guys don't perform at all. Sarfaraz does not have to select Azhar and Shehzad, if he does not want to. If he does, well then that is his fault.



    Except that selection has taken place on merit. Hafeez was very good against the Windies, Junaid has been quality since his return as well and while Riaz hasn't been at his best, his record in these tournaments is excellent.
    Junaid Khan since his return:
    Matches 6
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    Average 42.75
    Economy 6.45


    You need to improve the criteria for what you call "quality"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Junaid Khan since his return:
    Matches 6
    Wickets 8
    Average 42.75
    Economy 6.45


    You need to improve the criteria for what you call "quality"
    Not sure if you watched him bowl or not, I did and he was good. His numbers don't show it, partly because four of those matches were in Australia and partly because he is still to get back to his best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    LMAO what sort of logic is this. I give a person a gun and a dagger and force him to kill another person with either and when he does I blame him for murder.

    My ideal teams never had guys like Azhar or Umar Akmal in them.
    Errr... Hafeez, Fakhar and Shehzad are all openers and two of them should be our opening pair against India, not Azhar who is a back-up option.


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    Yes yes, numbers lie only when they expose Junaid. Otherwise, take stats at face value.

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    Malik is in the team based on merit.

    Even stats guru can show you his numbers for last two years.

    Also his career average is better than many of favorites including Shizzy and Akmal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes yes, numbers lie only when they expose Junaid. Otherwise, take stats at face value.
    did junaid not bowl well against australia?, has he really been that bad or been gin consistent chance that everyone here is against him, he will do well in champions troph and u will be biting ur tongue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    Malik is in the team based on merit.

    Even stats guru can show you his numbers for last two years.

    Also his career average is better than many of favorites including Shizzy and Akmal.
    Yes, I know, which is why I'm not getting pissy over his inclusion in the team. Junaid and Riaz are two of our best bowlers and deserve to be in the side as well, and people should accept it and back the team instead of continued wrist-slitting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Yes, I know, which is why I'm not getting pissy over his inclusion in the team. Junaid and Riaz are two of our best bowlers and deserve to be in the side as well, and people should accept it and back the team instead of continued wrist-slitting.
    Junaid Khan got spanked in the Pakistan Cup by nobodies, what do you expect from the guy at the top level?

    Bowling gun-barrel straight at 135 km/h and he know qualifies as one of our best bowlers, nice. I can name at least three better bowlers at the domestic level.

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    He has bottled it in his first ICC tournament. Totally bottled it as per usual.

    PCB selectors are great at selecting bowlers. Its almost as if it comes naturally. Happy to take a risk, happy to try the next best thing.

    But when it comes to batters they will stick with TTFs even through humiliating defeats.

    We get players like Babar and Sharjeel because we take risks not by hoping Shehzad and Hafeez will come good for the 100th time. We know their worth, they will fail 9 times out of 10 and we will go crashing out once again in the group stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Junaid Khan got spanked in the Pakistan Cup by nobodies, what do you expect from the guy at the top level?

    Bowling gun-barrel straight at 135 km/h and he know qualifies as one of our best bowlers, nice. I can name at least three better bowlers at the domestic level.
    The pitches in England will be completely different and his international performances count, not domestic ones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ayemgilani86 View Post
    did junaid not bowl well against australia?, has he really been that bad or been gin consistent chance that everyone here is against him, he will do well in champions troph and u will be biting ur tongue
    No he didn't. Yes he will do well in the Champions Trophy and I will replace Nawaz as the PM of the country. Both are equally likely and unlikely, since both are not based on any logic and/or empirical evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The pitches in England will be completely different and his international performances count, not domestic ones.

    Yes same pitches where the so-called best bowling team in Asia conceded a world record score in ODIs. Wake up, this is 2017 not 2007 - English pitches are proper roads, and that is because their strength is their powerful batting lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The pitches in England will be completely different and his international performances count, not domestic ones.
    Completely different in what way? The pitches will be flat, as with most of the pitches around the world.

    And his international performances since his return suggest that he deserves to be on the plane to the CT?

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    Pretty mediocre job as selector and his continual selecting of "experience" aka TTFs is getting beyond a joke in shorter formats of the game. Someone tell inzi this is 2017 and not 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Completely different in what way? The pitches will be flat, as with most of the pitches around the world.

    And his international performances since his return suggest that he deserves to be on the plane to the CT?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes same pitches where the so-called best bowling team in Asia conceded a world record score in ODIs. Wake up, this is 2017 not 2007 - English pitches are proper roads, and that is because their strength is their powerful batting lineup.
    The pitches will not be low and slow, which is what you get in Pakistan. They will have pace in them and seam bowling will be possible. Not to mention the weather conditions which will aid Junaid Khan better than the sun of Pakistan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The pitches will not be low and slow, which is what you get in Pakistan. They will have pace in them and seam bowling will be possible. Not to mention the weather conditions which will aid Junaid Khan better than the sun of Pakistan.
    Junaid cannot swing the ball an inch. Yes he can seam at his best, but the English pitches will have little grass. Like the 2015 World Cup, this tournament is going to be a batting shootout, for which the Revolutionary brought Azhar back. Even the 'bringing a knife to a gun fight' doesn't do justice to this atrocity.

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    I love the team and want it to do well, that is why I am gutted that a serial match loser like Junaid has been selected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Junaid cannot swing the ball an inch. Yes he can seam at his best, but the English pitches will have little grass. Like the 2015 World Cup, this tournament is going to be a batting shootout, for which the Revolutionary brought Azhar back. Even the 'bringing a knife to a gun fight' doesn't do justice to this atrocity.
    Fakhar not enough of a hack to sate you? I feel they'll offer a lot more to the pacers than you think and Amir + Junaid are going to cause some havoc for the Indians and Lankans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I love the team and want it to do well, that is why I am gutted that a serial match loser like Junaid has been selected.
    This is terrible yaar.

    BTW @Mamoon There was a point raised about domestic selections and bringing up new players from the set up like Bangladesh. There is a bloke Sahibzada, 21 Years of age playing for Balochistan in Pakistan Cup who looks like a pretty good player, Saw him bat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    The pitches will not be low and slow, which is what you get in Pakistan. They will have pace in them and seam bowling will be possible. Not to mention the weather conditions which will aid Junaid Khan better than the sun of Pakistan.
    Low and Slow? What are you on about? The pitches will be roads with a bit of bounce.

    Seam bowling may be possible for the few initial overs but that doesn't justify Junaid's selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Low and Slow? What are you on about? The pitches will be roads with a bit of bounce.

    Seam bowling may be possible for the few initial overs but that doesn't justify Junaid's selection.
    It does and you will eat your words very soon. Do visit the thread I made when Junaid dismisses Kohli again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Fakhar not enough of a hack to sate you? I feel they'll offer a lot more to the pacers than you think and Amir + Junaid are going to cause some havoc for the Indians and Lankans.
    Amir maybe Junaid no.

    He couldn't do it against Australia, he couldn't do it against the West Indies and now somehow he's going to destroy India and SL, wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    It does and you will eat your words very soon. Do visit the thread I made when Junaid dismisses Kohli again.
    If the capability to seam the ball was the only criteria then we could have selected any old domestic bully, as they specialise in the art of seaming the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Amir maybe Junaid no.

    He couldn't do it against Australia, he couldn't do it against the West Indies and now somehow he's going to destroy India and SL, wow.
    Nice alternate facts. Trump would be proud. I suggest you rewatch some of the highlights of those two series. Specifically Junaid bowling to FTB Warner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Awwww... Someone's not happy that Junaid and Riaz made the squad. Bummer.
    well any one who wants pakistan to win won't support their inclusion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Fakhar not enough of a hack to sate you? I feel they'll offer a lot more to the pacers than you think and Amir + Junaid are going to cause some havoc for the Indians and Lankans.
    I don't rate Fakhar but I would take even Awais Zia over Azhar at this point. He won't waste deliveries at least.

    Yes yes, I remember the havoc Junaid created for the Indians in the last CT, and how good he has been for us in ICC tournaments. So far, he has been our bowling version of Amla, but not half as good in bilateral matches.

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    At least with Irfan's ban we have been spared the trundling mess of a bowler

    Junaid is one dimensional like Wahab. Will either go for plenty or do really well. There is no middle ground. There is no consistency. He is ultimately not cut out for international cricket but you never know he might have a good tourney.

    I am more excited about Amir, Hasan Ali and Shadab. We have a world class bowling attack. Just a shame our batting is awful, TTF selections have made it even worse.

    I can picture it now, we just about put 260 on the board and the bowlers go full throttle trying to take early wickets and they do then opposition plaster us into submission and win comfortably.

    No way no way is a lineup of Hafeez,Shehzad,Azhar Ali is going to get us more than 280. Absolutely no way. The sample size is way too large to prove their incompetence. Hafeez will not average more than 23 in the tourney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Nice alternate facts. Trump would be proud. I suggest you rewatch some of the highlights of those two series. Specifically Junaid bowling to FTB Warner.
    I suggest you watch Junaid being carted around in Perth, Adelaide and Sydney, and then come back to me saying that he'll destroy India and SL in the Champions trophy.

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    I just hope Junaid is rested and not given the ball.

    He'll RUIN Pak team, just like he RUINED Zalmi against ISLU.


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