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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I don't rate Fakhar but I would take even Awais Zia over Azhar at this point. He won't waste deliveries at least.

    Yes yes, I remember the havoc Junaid created for the Indians in the last CT, and how good he has been for us in ICC tournaments. So far, he has been our bowling version of Amla, but not half as good in bilateral matches.
    You don't rate Fakhar, you don't rate Azhar, bhai aap kis ko rate kartein hai? Oh, I know, Umar Amin and Asad Shafiq.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    At least with Irfan's ban we have been spared the trundling mess of a bowler

    Junaid is one dimensional like Wahab. Will either go for plenty or do really well. There is no middle ground. There is no consistency. He is ultimately not cut out for international cricket but you never know he might have a good tourney.

    I am more excited about Amir, Hasan Ali and Shadab. We have a world class bowling attack. Just a shame our batting is awful, TTF selections have made it even worse.
    wishful thinking, its potenitally world class but no their yet, and supporting cast isnt good enough. Sohail Khan to compliment it would have been perfect.

    What worries most though is that our first game is against India. There is no shame for a 18 year old leggie to get smashed by India, but knowing our fans and media that game could potentially destroy Shadab's tournament. The media attack on him would be imense in such scenario


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    wishful thinking, its potenitally world class but no their yet, and supporting cast isnt good enough. Sohail Khan to compliment it would have been perfect.

    What worries most though is that our first game is against India. There is no shame for a 18 year old leggie to get smashed by India, but knowing our fans and media that game could potentially destroy Shadab's tournament. The media attack on him would be imense in such scenario
    Which is why you don't play Shadab against India and Sri Lanka and bring him in for the semis, which will be against England or Australia and we all know that Shadab can eat them whole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Which is why you don't play Shadab against India and Sri Lanka and bring him in for the semis, which will be against England or Australia and we all know that Shadab can eat them whole.
    and replace with who ?

    AGGRESSIVE RIAZ who has been averaging 46 since bowling to watson, or take the risk for Fahim ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    wishful thinking, its potenitally world class but no their yet, and supporting cast isnt good enough. Sohail Khan to compliment it would have been perfect.

    What worries most though is that our first game is against India. There is no shame for a 18 year old leggie to get smashed by India, but knowing our fans and media that game could potentially destroy Shadab's tournament. The media attack on him would be imense in such scenario
    Sohail Khan can't field and lacks fitness. He is 33. We have better young pacers now. Its not 2015 world cup anymore.

    Our bowling unit is solid, Imad and Shadab and Hafeez for middle overs. Amir, Junaid(or Wahab) and Hasan Ali as pace attack. Its better than most.

    Inzamam totally failed on selecting a batting unit. He doesn't realise Haris Sohail is not fazed by big matches, he has temperament and has performed in the past. Should have picked him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    Sohail Khan can't field and lacks fitness. He is 33. We have better young pacers now. Its not 2015 world cup anymore.

    Our bowling unit is solid, Imad and Shadab and Hafeez for middle overs. Amir, Junaid(or Wahab) and Hasan Ali as pace attack. Its better than most.

    Inzamam totally failed on selecting a batting unit. He doesn't realise Haris Sohail is not fazed by big matches, he has temperament and has performed in the past. Should have picked him.
    Sohail Khan for all his faults would give us more as compared to Riaz and Junaid, with both bat and ball.

    Why riaz is even in the conversation boggles me, he has been awful for some time, junaid is hit and miss. Imad also will have issues unless he adds some variation.


    Batting wise yes complete failure, however, don't mind Haris missing out. We know how long he has been out for, let's ease him back against Bangladesh and meanwhile let him smash more runs in domestic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    This is terrible yaar.

    BTW @Mamoon There was a point raised about domestic selections and bringing up new players from the set up like Bangladesh. There is a bloke Sahibzada, 21 Years of age playing for Balochistan in Pakistan Cup who looks like a pretty good player, Saw him bat?
    No unfortunately I didn't. However, I have heard good things about him. As the other thread mentioned, The Revolutionary has completely devalued the tournament by not considering any of the performing players, and not holding the likes of Junaid etc. accountable for their insipid displays. On top of that, Azhar didn't even play in the tournament and he got the nod over the likes of Haris and Amin. Even Yamin didn't get the nod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    You don't rate Fakhar, you don't rate Azhar, bhai aap kis ko rate kartein hai? Oh, I know, Umar Amin and Asad Shafiq.
    Forget Shafiq. Both Amin and Haris should have been considered over Azhar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No unfortunately I didn't. However, I have heard good things about him. As the other thread mentioned, The Revolutionary has completely devalued the tournament by not considering any of the performing players, and not holding the likes of Junaid etc. accountable for their insipid displays. On top of that, Azhar didn't even play in the tournament and he got the nod over the likes of Haris and Amin. Even Yamin didn't get the nod.
    He will be batting tomorrow for Balochistan, Keep an eye on him and watch over if possible, He looks a fine prospect. Can cut and pull, Sweet timer against pace bowling.

    Also is good against spin, Has power game.

    Haris and Amin are unfortunate to miss out, Thanks to Inzi, Ideally Amin should be there to open.

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    Extremely disappointing and clueless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Forget Shafiq. Both Amin and Haris should have been considered over Azhar.
    Haris has just returned from injury and we cannot have half-fit players playing in England. Amin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Haris has just returned from injury and we cannot have half-fit players playing in England. Amin?
    He completed his rehab and he is scoring runs. He is a quality player who has already shown that he has what it takes to do well in international cricket. He should have been selected. Amin has improved in the last couple of years and he played very well in the Pakistan Cup. He is capable of batting at a better SR than Azhar. A 30-40 at a healthy SR is better than Azhar tuk tuking his way to a 120 ball 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He completed his rehab and he is scoring runs. He is a quality player who has already shown that he has what it takes to do well in international cricket. He should have been selected. Amin has improved in the last couple of years and he played very well in the Pakistan Cup. He is capable of batting at a better SR than Azhar. A 30-40 at a healthy SR is better than Azhar tuk tuking his way to a 120 ball 80.
    Yes, we all saw what happened the last time a TTF was selected because of his domestic bullying. Wait, I just remembered that you were one of Kamran's staunchest defenders. Now here you are wanting Amin, who averages 20 in ODI cricket, to replace him. Ha!

    We all wanted Haris to be selected, pretty sure Inzamam rates him very highly too so if he isn't in the squad, he's obviously not considered fit enough to play international cricket as of now. Completing you rehabilitation is one thing, gaining match-fitness is another. I would have hated for a half-fit Haris to fail in England and get axed for the foreseeable future. Let him keep scoring the runs and make a comeback after the CT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Yes, we all saw what happened the last time a TTF was selected because of his domestic bullying. Wait, I just remembered that you were one of Kamran's staunchest defenders. Now here you are wanting Amin, who averages 20 in ODI cricket, to replace him. Ha!

    We all wanted Haris to be selected, pretty sure Inzamam rates him very highly too so if he isn't in the squad, he's obviously not considered fit enough to play international cricket as of now. Completing you rehabilitation is one thing, gaining match-fitness is another. I would have hated for a half-fit Haris to fail in England and get axed for the foreseeable future. Let him keep scoring the runs and make a comeback after the CT.
    Kamran should not have been dropped for Azhar. He has more shots against pace bowling and the flat English pitches are more conductive to his stroke-playing than the slow Caribbean ones. Amin's averages at this stage doesn't mean much; he has only played a handful of ODIs and that too mostly in 2013. Azhar's 20 odd average in ODI cricket in the last two years is more alarming than Amin's 4-5 year old averages. In addition, Amin is at an age/stage where his learning curve is still high.

    Yes of course, Inzi the great human being is free from all sins. It is us, the mere mortals, who can err. He clearly didn't make a mistake by neglecting Haris, the most promising young batsman in the country alongside Babar.

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    Who were the Selectors who picked Zahid, Basit, Saqlain, Razzaq, Azhar, Shoaib & Yousuf ?


    @Saj @Strike Rate @WebGuru @Veteran @Junaids @the Great Khan


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Who were the Selectors who picked Zahid, Basit, Saqlain, Razzaq, Azhar, Shoaib & Yousuf ?


    @Saj @Strike Rate @WebGuru @Veteran @Junaids @the Great Khan
    Id have to check, razzaq got picked during tauqir zia's tenure. The rest I would have to check. In those days we werent to bothered who the selectors were because they would throw in some unknown youngster regularly. Plus no internet forums so no real places to discuss things like now. Although I remember getting into an argument with an indian about Inzi vs tendu in 1996 on AOL. lol..

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    With each squad there are 1 or 2 very suspicious selections.

    Selections that make you think what is going on.

    In the Champions Trophy squad - Fahim Ashraf, Umar Akmal and Azhar Ali.



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    It seems like too much politics in PCB, Inzi should retire if he cant make decision on his own...

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    Inzi needs to be consistent. Once a boy selected will not be out without playing a game and once a decision made will stay on that.

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    Is inzamam the worst selector ever for pakistan?

    We have had few farce selectors in moin, haroon rashid etc; but is inzamam the worst of all
    Clearly he lacks the eye for a player, keeps selecting his friends and proven buffoons, so is he the worst of all time??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah99 View Post
    We have had few farce selectors in moin, haroon rashid etc; but is inzamam the worst of all
    Clearly he lacks the eye for a player, keeps selecting his friends and proven buffoons, so is he the worst of all time??
    why every pcb chairman & selector is worst ever than its
    predecessor ?��


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    so how do we rate him now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    so how do we rate him now?
    mostly very good but with some very bad decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    so how do we rate him now?
    He's the best selector we've had so far.

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    The designation of the "Revolutionary" by some on here is well merited.

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    He usually gets it right, obviously nobody is perfect and he has made some questionable calls. But overall he's done pretty well and introduced quite a few young players. Credit where credit's due.

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    Better than some of the numpties we had in the past ("Pakistan mein talent hi nahi hai" )


    But.... his nepotistic selections and constant backing of TTFs like Shehzad and Akmals cannot be ignored.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Better than some of the numpties we had in the past ("Pakistan mein talent hi nahi hai" )


    But.... his nepotistic selections and constant backing of TTFs like Shehzad and Akmals cannot be ignored.
    Yes cannot believe Inzy selected Shehzad and Akmal brothers in the Test squad for England.

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    First of all, thanks to Allah. Boys playing well.

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    Poor, who doesn't understand statistics.

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    Has made some good decisions and some very questionable. Being our greatest selector every is hardly an achievement as most of our selectors have been rubbish. So Inzi didn't have to do much to be better than them.

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    Imam leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.

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    I'm very happy with him, can't recall a time like this where I've had so few selection complaints. Heading in the right direction.

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    Very good squad, this. Good stuff from Inzi.


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    dont remember the last time 4 openers were selected in a test squad and one of the opener selected happens to be chief selector's nephew

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    I have lost almost all respect for inzi for choosing his nephew over Fawad .. I would rather have Bazid Khan as CS as he is 10 times better judge of a player.. the word merit is meaningless for inzi

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    Does any1 here know if inzi has attended a first class game since coming to power?

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    when were you ever HAPPY with ALL the players in a Pakistan Squad? - Never!

    That's right, we, are never happy with the squad that gets announced regardless of who is the chief selector. Every time we find at least ONE name in the list that we have a problem with.

    Some examples:

    - Iqbal Qasim: CT 2013 :
    - Afridi was dropped --> 100s of PP posters were outraged
    - Shafiq and Farhat picked --> 100 of PP posters were outraged (including myself)

    RESULT: Lost CT in 1st Round

    Moin Khan: WC 2015:
    - Another terrible squad with a bunch of TTFs and oldies
    - Younis Khan --> 100 of PP posters were outraged (including myself)
    - Maqsood --> Was picked depite not fully recovered from an injury
    - Hafeez --> Was banned from bowling but picked in the squad depsite the ban!

    RESULT: Lost QF vs Aus

    Haroon Rasheed - 2016 Asia Cup & T20 WC:
    - Picked Khurram Manzoor who had never played T20I before that
    - Shahzad & Gul were dropped --> And several PP posters were angry about that!

    RESULT: Lost vs Ind AND Bangladesh (Did not reach Finals)

    The point is: You can never be always 100% satisfied with the squad that is selected, and same is the case with Inzi.

    But where Inzi has done better than his predecessors is:

    - Worked closely with Mickey and bought into the culture of "Fitness"
    - Brought in the most youngsters (Hassan, Shadab, Faheem, Fakhar) and gave them consistent chances.
    - Finally getting rid of the TTFs & Trouble-makers (slowly but surely) (Hafeez, Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, Shahzad [in tests and ODIs], Wahab, Tanvir)
    - RESULTS: 2-2 Draw vs Eng, Winning CT

    Overall there has been an aura of optimism after a long time around the PCT...and I am not saying it is only because of Inzi...but i feel it is because of the TEAM EFFORT of Inzi + Mickey + Sarfaraz + PCB + Players --- After a LONG time everyone is aiming and heading in the right direction without any 'rumors' of internal politics or groupping.

    (Recall instances when there were open disagreements between Coach and Chief Selectors / Coach and Captain / Chief Selector and Captain)....Now you don't hear that and that means finally..FINALLY..everyone is working as a TEAM with no hidden / personal agendas and when that happens it means everyone wants the betterment of PCT.

    So overall, yes, there are some areas of improvement -- no-one is perfect -- but I am very happy with Inzi and the way he has collaborated with Mickey / Sarfaraz / Sethi etc. to form a high performance culture and gotten rid of some TTFs and Troublemakers and INVESTED IN YOUTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Yes cannot believe Inzy selected Shehzad and Akmal brothers in the Test squad for England.
    Glad you ignored the "nepotistic selections" part of my post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketingMinds View Post
    when were you ever HAPPY with ALL the players in a Pakistan Squad? - Never!

    That's right, we, are never happy with the squad that gets announced regardless of who is the chief selector. Every time we find at least ONE name in the list that we have a problem with.

    Some examples:

    - Iqbal Qasim: CT 2013 :
    - Afridi was dropped --> 100s of PP posters were outraged
    - Shafiq and Farhat picked --> 100 of PP posters were outraged (including myself)

    RESULT: Lost CT in 1st Round

    Moin Khan: WC 2015:
    - Another terrible squad with a bunch of TTFs and oldies
    - Younis Khan --> 100 of PP posters were outraged (including myself)
    - Maqsood --> Was picked depite not fully recovered from an injury
    - Hafeez --> Was banned from bowling but picked in the squad depsite the ban!

    RESULT: Lost QF vs Aus

    Haroon Rasheed - 2016 Asia Cup & T20 WC:
    - Picked Khurram Manzoor who had never played T20I before that
    - Shahzad & Gul were dropped --> And several PP posters were angry about that!

    RESULT: Lost vs Ind AND Bangladesh (Did not reach Finals)

    The point is: You can never be always 100% satisfied with the squad that is selected, and same is the case with Inzi.

    But where Inzi has done better than his predecessors is:

    - Worked closely with Mickey and bought into the culture of "Fitness"
    - Brought in the most youngsters (Hassan, Shadab, Faheem, Fakhar) and gave them consistent chances.
    - Finally getting rid of the TTFs & Trouble-makers (slowly but surely) (Hafeez, Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, Shahzad [in tests and ODIs], Wahab, Tanvir)
    - RESULTS: 2-2 Draw vs Eng, Winning CT

    Overall there has been an aura of optimism after a long time around the PCT...and I am not saying it is only because of Inzi...but i feel it is because of the TEAM EFFORT of Inzi + Mickey + Sarfaraz + PCB + Players --- After a LONG time everyone is aiming and heading in the right direction without any 'rumors' of internal politics or groupping.

    (Recall instances when there were open disagreements between Coach and Chief Selectors / Coach and Captain / Chief Selector and Captain)....Now you don't hear that and that means finally..FINALLY..everyone is working as a TEAM with no hidden / personal agendas and when that happens it means everyone wants the betterment of PCT.

    So overall, yes, there are some areas of improvement -- no-one is perfect -- but I am very happy with Inzi and the way he has collaborated with Mickey / Sarfaraz / Sethi etc. to form a high performance culture and gotten rid of some TTFs and Troublemakers and INVESTED IN YOUTH
    Brilliant post. Arthur-Sarfraz-Inzamam combo needs to be persisted with. It wasn't long since we had the likes of Haroon Rasheed and Iqbal Qasim whose selection policies were incoherent, short termist and oversaw one bad result after another. Do these critics want a return to those days ?

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    One or two questionable decisions but by and large he has done well I think.

    Picking Faheem Ashraf for example was a great call by Inzi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    One or two questionable decisions but by and large he has done well I think.

    Picking Faheem Ashraf for example was a great call by Inzi.

    Faheem Ashraf is an okay selection but he really needs to work on his batting, right now hes a test no 9 in most teams

    Ammer Yamin should have been in squad perhaps, his batting is good and in these conditions would have been useful.

    He screwed up by dropping Fawad again, Imam didnt deserve his chance this early, I know he scored in first class but I still consider this a nepotism selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    One or two questionable decisions but by and large he has done well I think.

    Picking Faheem Ashraf for example was a great call by Inzi.
    I am glad you agree. Some posters here are very very critical of him - which i think is a bit unfair.

    We are a lot better off with Inzi compared to whoever we had in past (Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rasheed, etc.)

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    barring imam ul haq, and the unnecessary recalls for the akmals or shehzads.. he has been fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Imam leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.
    Someone who averaged 50 with three centuries in the QEA trophy leaves a bad taste in your mouth? Kyun bhai? Criticizing his LOI selection might have been warranted but Imam is a fine test player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirpur express View Post
    I have lost almost all respect for inzi for choosing his nephew over Fawad .. I would rather have Bazid Khan as CS as he is 10 times better judge of a player.. the word merit is meaningless for inzi
    His nephew is an opener, aged undee 25 and averaged 50 in the 2016/17 QEA trophy. Fawad is not an opener and is what? 35? Get over him, he wasn't the Pakistani Lara, lol.

    Babar, Haris, Usman, Saad and Shafiq are enough for the three middle-order spots.

    People need to start supporting Pakistan instead of players from their city/village/family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Someone who averaged 50 with three centuries in the QEA trophy leaves a bad taste in your mouth? Kyun bhai? Criticizing his LOI selection might have been warranted but Imam is a fine test player.
    Bhai I was mainly talking about LOI. That’s my only complaint with Inzi alongside the continual persistence with Ahmed Shehzad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Bhai I was mainly talking about LOI. That’s my only complaint with Inzi alongside the continual persistence with Ahmed Shehzad.
    Babajee are you always critical in all your assessments or do you ever appreciate the good things? E.g Maybe appreciate Inzi for the good decisions he has made.. Like...
    - No Wahab, Hafeez, Shahzad in the squad
    - No Akmals
    - injecting young blood for a key tour (Saad Ali, Usman, Faheem, etc) that will only inspire and improve the youngsters performance in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketingMinds View Post
    Babajee are you always critical in all your assessments or do you ever appreciate the good things? E.g Maybe appreciate Inzi for the good decisions he has made.. Like...
    - No Wahab, Hafeez, Shahzad in the squad
    - No Akmals
    - injecting young blood for a key tour (Saad Ali, Usman, Faheem, etc) that will only inspire and improve the youngsters performance in future.
    Inzi is the best selector in the world. That doesn’t mean he is above criticism though.

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    So we still feel critical of Inzis selection of his nephew?


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    Inzamam, Basit Ali and Saeed Anwar were my most favorite players in the Pakistan Team. He did'nt win many matches but played lot of innings to take Pakistan close to victory. Player with an awesome technique and treat to watch.

    Unfortunately his stint as selector has literally destroyed that great memory and legacy.

    He became chief selector in 2016, he by far has been the most biased, shameless, nepotistic and pathetic selector in recent past.

    Adhoc PCB in its 15 year history has always found better turncoats for this position before him so he has lived upto that reputation.

    Being a batsman himself Inzamam has not only intentionally failed to build the batting department but solidified the few less-talented TTFs and personal favorites in the domestic setup. ITs because of him Ahmed Shezad and Akmals are continuing to play despite their useless technique and awful attitude.

    Inzamam has made sure no youngster is looked for contention outside PSL. He has intentionally ignored young players to favor his few loved ones [Shehzad, Malik, Akmals,etc..] and his nephew Imam Haq. Quietly his son was selected in U 16 team.

    Inzamam has played with Mickey Arthur the most.
    In order to get his family member or friendselected, Inzamam selected out of form or worse technique player bound to fail on a tour and pushed in his nephew as alternative.

    Inzamam should've been fired when he sent unfit Umar Akmal after a bogus fitness test to UK for CT 2017.
    Whatever goodwill and adulation he got as a player he has ruined it all by being corrupt nepotistic mafioso selector.

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    Inzamam ul haq is a great un biased selector. After lord's test win he is due much needed credit and for selecting winners like Imam, faheem, shadab, hasan and Fakhar. For his selections I would give him a 9/10.

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    Mickey Arthur and PSL have made Inzy look good however I will give him credit if he replaces Rahat Ali and Sami Aslam from the squad to more worthy players in the next test series. The selection of the former (who hasn't played much FC cricket in Pakistan for a long while) shows his capability.

    This reminds me when Luis Suarez was in prolific form for Liverpool, there was also a lot of credit being given to Brendan Rogers. Once his main star had left his side, he was exposed and it was at that point when they realised he was a poor coach and Suarez had made him look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArsenalFC View Post
    Mickey Arthur and PSL have made Inzy look good however I will give him credit if he replaces Rahat Ali and Sami Aslam from the squad to more worthy players in the next test series. The selection of the former (who hasn't played much FC cricket in Pakistan for a long while) shows his capability.

    This reminds me when Luis Suarez was in prolific form for Liverpool, there was also a lot of credit being given to Brendan Rogers. Once his main star had left his side, he was exposed and it was at that point when they realised he was a poor coach and Suarez had made him look good.
    You have to give credit where its due. Faheem Ashraf, Mohammad Abbas and Imam Ul Haq, all of them have been selected without the PSL performances.

    People were critical of Imam but he has shown everyone that he has got a pretty solid game. Same is the case of Faheem and his selection in tests. There is something called good eye for talent and Inzi has got that, might not be the best but better than having selectors with no eyes as we have seen for over the last decade or so.

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    The difference between Inzi and others is that he doesn't rely on stats but instead wants to have a look at the players himself. A good QEAT only means that you get invited to the training camp.

    It got him a lot of hate esp from Fawad fans but it also got Pakistan some talented players in who did not have GOAT averages in QEAT.

    Imam for example was always known to have a decent batting technique but he was not ready according to Inzi. He deemed him ready now and Pak needed someone like that on the tour of UK. So instead of going for QEAT champions he picked Imam. That's how Inzi works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArsenalFC View Post
    Mickey Arthur and PSL have made Inzy look good however I will give him credit if he replaces Rahat Ali and Sami Aslam from the squad to more worthy players in the next test series. The selection of the former (who hasn't played much FC cricket in Pakistan for a long while) shows his capability.

    This reminds me when Luis Suarez was in prolific form for Liverpool, there was also a lot of credit being given to Brendan Rogers. Once his main star had left his side, he was exposed and it was at that point when they realised he was a poor coach and Suarez had made him look good.
    I don't think that's fair and a bit of myth. You remove a player of Suarez's extraordinary quality and any manager would have struggled - especially when you don't get your desired replacements.

    Remember Suarez had not hit the same form in previous seasons under Dalglish. He even mentions in his book how BR was instrumental to his success as before 2013-14 he was very wasteful in front of goal.

    It's true PSL has helped identify young talent but every other selector in the world has the same advantage - Indian selectors have IPL, Australians have Big Bash etc. All its done is give us a level playing field as now our youngsters can learn from top players from around the world.

    However, if you look at the A team tours to England and Zimbabwe in 2016 - Shadab Khan and Fakhar Zaman were part of the squad so the selectors were grooming them BEFORE PSL. Faheem Ashraf has been part of squads and camps before PSL too.

    Mohammad Abbas and Usman Salahuddin are not PSL products either.

    Haris Sohail under other Chief Selectors may have been totally forgotten after his long injury layoff, but was recalled as soon as he was fit. That's not to say Inzamam hasn't made mistakes but his consistency in selection, avoiding excess chopping and changing and inclusion of young talent as well as rewarding top domestic performers has made him a breath of fresh air.

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    A thankless job the Chief Selectors. When the team looses he gets all the flak, when the reaps of his selections start bearing fruit he gets no real credit which the captain and coach conveniently steal.

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    no doubt one of our best selection committees..remember inzi isnt alone..he gets input from mickey and others..

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    People who say Psl makes Inzi job easier need to realise it's also a risk selecting Psl products and T20 players for test cricket and very brave. Shadab, Fakhar and faheem wouldn't be selected by any other chief selector. Inzi deserves credit.
    Also it's a great he's took Fakhar to England considering world cup next year so he can get much needed practice

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    Credit to him for picking youth!

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    His UK/Irish squad was very good - only change could have been Rahat (But Wahab doesn't make sense either, and Sadaf in unknown). One blemish was to carry only one WK, but that's understandable. Now, he should be bold enough to trim the side from the burden of experience - Sarfraz should be only over 30 player to Next WC squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    You have to give credit where its due. Faheem Ashraf, Mohammad Abbas and Imam Ul Haq, all of them have been selected without the PSL performances.

    People were critical of Imam but he has shown everyone that he has got a pretty solid game. Same is the case of Faheem and his selection in tests. There is something called good eye for talent and Inzi has got that, might not be the best but better than having selectors with no eyes as we have seen for over the last decade or so.
    These have been excellent selections by Inzy no doubt but when I see him pass Umar Akmal fit without conducting a proper fitness test, recalling Rahat Ali (just from PSL form), picking Sami Aslam in the England 2016 ODI series (over one Edgbaston test) along with Gul as well for the same matches on the basis of reputation and recalling Ahmed Shehzad in all formats (before he was dropped from the test squad) then I will continue to have major concerns. Selection of 3 promising players does not compensate for these blunders - bare in mind some of these are really bad like with Umar Akmal and Rahat Ali.

    When Inzy was captain he had a phobia of testing out new and younger players, where I believe only as 4 debuted under his tenure as captain. It was only until Sarfraz was made captain in tests we began to see the emergence of new blood because as we know he and Mickey Arthur back untested talent, whereas with Misbah this was the opposite.

    Problem here is everyone is giving more credit towards Inzy as a selector who has played a peripheral role in contrast to Sarfraz and Mickey with their leadership and coaching roles respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    I don't think that's fair and a bit of myth. You remove a player of Suarez's extraordinary quality and any manager would have struggled - especially when you don't get your desired replacements.

    Remember Suarez had not hit the same form in previous seasons under Dalglish. He even mentions in his book how BR was instrumental to his success as before 2013-14 he was very wasteful in front of goal.

    It's true PSL has helped identify young talent but every other selector in the world has the same advantage - Indian selectors have IPL, Australians have Big Bash etc. All its done is give us a level playing field as now our youngsters can learn from top players from around the world.

    However, if you look at the A team tours to England and Zimbabwe in 2016 - Shadab Khan and Fakhar Zaman were part of the squad so the selectors were grooming them BEFORE PSL. Faheem Ashraf has been part of squads and camps before PSL too.

    Mohammad Abbas and Usman Salahuddin are not PSL products either.

    Haris Sohail under other Chief Selectors may have been totally forgotten after his long injury layoff, but was recalled as soon as he was fit. That's not to say Inzamam hasn't made mistakes but his consistency in selection, avoiding excess chopping and changing and inclusion of young talent as well as rewarding top domestic performers has made him a breath of fresh air.
    Most Liverpool fans were crying for him to be sacked, they had enough of him. He wasn't good enough to coach a champions league side. His successor Klopp managed to get Liverpool in the top 4 (without Salah). Quite a few pundits such as Ian Wright have also said Suarez made him look better than what he was. He's another David Moyes otherwise he wouldn't be coaching Celtic, who would struggle to make it in the top half of the prem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArsenalFC View Post
    These have been excellent selections by Inzy no doubt but when I see him pass Umar Akmal fit without conducting a proper fitness test, recalling Rahat Ali (just from PSL form), picking Sami Aslam in the England 2016 ODI series (over one Edgbaston test) along with Gul as well for the same matches on the basis of reputation and recalling Ahmed Shehzad in all formats (before he was dropped from the test squad) then I will continue to have major concerns. Selection of 3 promising players does not compensate for these blunders - bare in mind some of these are really bad like with Umar Akmal and Rahat Ali.

    When Inzy was captain he had a phobia of testing out new and younger players, where I believe only as 4 debuted under his tenure as captain. It was only until Sarfraz was made captain in tests we began to see the emergence of new blood because as we know he and Mickey Arthur back untested talent, whereas with Misbah this was the opposite.

    Problem here is everyone is giving more credit towards Inzy as a selector who has played a peripheral role in contrast to Sarfraz and Mickey with their leadership and coaching roles respectively.
    @Markhor in re: Inzy

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    The wailing aunties will continue to lament but looks like everyone else realizes what a great job Inzamam ul Haq has done, MashAllah.

    I hope the PCB learns from this and appoints former greats in mentoring and coaching roles from here on out as well. A great player can see beyond the spreadsheets and spot the gold amidst all the coal.

    A few mistakes are only expected but by and large, he has fixed our teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    no doubt one of our best selection committees..remember inzi isnt alone..he gets input from mickey and others..
    The other guys deserves credit for selecting Imam. Inzamam does not make the call on Imam which is just another evidence of his integrity.

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    Even though I have my doubts with Inzy, we will have a better idea by next year in the world cup. If Pakistan makes semis then I'll be the first to admit he's turned things around. There is no doubting that he has made some atrocious mistakes and if I remember correctly last year up until the India defeat at Edbaston in the CT, nearly everyone on here had bad things to say about him.

    The bottom line is too many on here are giving him more credit than he deserves and are neglecting the change in cricketing culture with backing of youth and given them the freedom to express themselves etc etc was because Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz. Inzy has to act according to their best interests but even then he goes the opposite way when he picks Rahat for a test series after a few good PSL games.

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    Not impressed by this squad. Amir and/or Hasan Ali should have been rested. Yasir Shah is not a white ball player.

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    Maybe just wanting to get Shah some match practice, any match practice.

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    Garbage ODI squad

    Bringing Hafeez back into the T20 team was also criminal.

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    By and large Inzi has done a good job.

    To be fair to him, he has backed players and given players a decent run in the squad rather than continually chopping and changing.



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    One of the worst selectors we ever had, only good to keep rotating some of his favorite , useless players like Hafeez and Rahat.

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    4/10;
    -1 for selecting Hafeez T20 and ODI, Yasir in ODI
    -1 for not resting Hasan and Amir
    -1 Mismatching players in formats.

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    @Shafi

    As you posted a news article stating that there are chances of Sarfraz, Inzamam and Mickey getting the axe. I disagree.

    Doing this would be terrible.


    1. I am fully satisfied with Mickey Arthur’s performance as a Coach.

    2. Although I have had some disagreements with Inzamam’s selections (this is natural) but overall I am satisfied with his performance and he has indeed delivered as Chief Selector.

    3. Although I am not fully satisfied with Sarfraz’s captaincy mainly due to his failure of controlling his anger and emotions on the field but again overall as a Captain he has done well.

    The main issue has been his batting and not captaincy but the issue is that


    A. We do not have a better option to Captain us in Test Cricket atm. Babar Azam is not captaincy material for me and Azhar is too defensive captain. Don’t see Shafique as captaincy material atm but may be in future. Still Shafique won’t be an active aggressive leader.


    B. Sarfraz’s batting in Odi Cricket is a big issue. I have been crying for last two years that we need to develop Zeeshan Masood as back up keeper because

    i) Rizwan is not good enough for Int Cricket.

    ii) We cannot slot Kamran Akmal in top 3 batting positions because he performs with the bat in 1 out of 6 games which is not good enough. He averages 25-30 in top 3 batting positions despite scoring all his Odi hundreds there. Moreover he is physically not fit enough with that pot belly and unsafe keeper.

    iii) Do not want to see Umar Akmal as keeper because than he offers almost nothing as a batsman and failed to finish 95 % of the games under pressure. Stats won’t tell you this thing.

    iv) Adnan Akmal had terrific last 4-5 F.C. seasons with the bat where he scored 7 F.C. hundreds and averaged 40 plus in these years. He is superfit so can make Test squad as a keeper if needed but He is not good enough for Odi Cricket.



    Zeeshan Masood is the real deal. Can play all round the wicket, is confident and can use the big handle aswell. But he has been in and out of his domestic sides being youngster (Pak culture) and wasn’t given consistent chances. Moreover NCA failed to groom him.




    Hence we must give Mickey and Inzi time till the end of WC2019 and because currently we do not have good backup option for Sarfraz Ahmed hence we should give Sarfraz couple of series more and expect him to bounce back. If God forbid Sarfraz doesn’t bounce back with the bat especially in Odi Cricket than Shoaib Malik or Hafeez would be made Odi Captain with Shoaib being hot favourite.


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    * Umair Masood not Zeeshan Masood


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    One word - comfortable, like his playing career. Doing routine job reasonably.

    Guy was the most naturally gifted batsman I have ever seen, but there also he wasn’t willing to run that extra mile which would have taken him to ATG legend status. Here also, he is doing just enough to make him better than the likes of IQasim.

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    He has made some good selections but when it comes to selecting a team for the conditions and thinking outside of the box, he has been poor.

    We should have a foreign chief selector. That will eliminate nepotism and favouritism.

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    He can do better than he does.

    He seems to be keeping the captain and coach happy. Which has led to some disastrous tours of the UAE. Pak should have won against SL and should have done a bit better in the Asia Cup.


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    Nothing special same like previous chief selectors.

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    He is the best selector Pakistan had in recent times, people often make mistake of equating results = good selections.

    He has removed all TTFS and infused young talent.He is selector not miracle worker, he cannot create players.


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