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    ICC Chairman Shashank Manohar to continue until expiry of term in June 2018 [Update #176]

    ICC Chairman Shashank Manohar has resigned.


    Shashank Manohar steps down as ICC chairman

    In a surprise development, Shashank Manohar today resigned as ICC chairman after merely eight months in office citing personal reasons.

    The 59-year-old Manohar mailed his resignation letter to ICC CEO Dave Richardson without clarifying the exact reason for this sudden move to end what was to be a two-year-tenure.

    However, according to highly-placed sources Manohar has decided to quit as BCCI seems to have gained enough ground to block the constitutional and financial reforms that were set to be passed by the ICC at its next board meeting.

    Any reform to be passed needs 2/3rd majority but BCCI, in all likelihood, has managed to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe on its side.

    It is learnt, expecting a loss of face, Manohar has resigned with immediate effect.

    "I was elected unopposed as the first independent Chairman of ICC last year. I have tried to do my best and have tried to be fair and impartial in deciding matters in the functioning of the Board and in matters related to Member Boards along with the able support of all Directors," Manohar has stated in his resignation letter.

    "However, for personal reasons it is not possible for me to hold the august office of ICC Chairman and hence I am tendering my resignation as Chairman with immediate effect.

    "I take this opportunity to thank all the Directors, the Management and staff of ICC for supporting me wholeheartedly. I wish ICC all the very best and hope it achieves greater heights," he concluded.

    Manohar had last year resigned from the BCCI citing his inability to carry out Lodha Committee reforms in toto. His detractors in BCCI at that time had said he left a sinking ship for the safer confines of the ICC.

    He became the first independent chairman of ICC but had several run ins with BCCI on revenue sharing pattern.
    The BCCI officials believe that for his personal ambitions to head the ICC, Manohar had not cared about the BCCI's interests.

    His decision to bring in constitutional reforms has been severely opposed by BCCI along with Sri Lanka.

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    ICC confirms receipt of Shashank Manohar's resignation

    The ICC has confirmed it has received an email from Chairman Shashank Manohar tendering his resignation. The ICC Board will assess the situation and next steps before making a further announcement.

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    Forced out by the Big Three.

    Sad day for cricket.

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    Wow. Just when someone was doing a good job.


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    Well how long was he going to last anyway, frankly don't feel sad for him, he talked a good game but when you call someone out for screwing others (BIG 3) and then try and screw that person (BCCI) when he is in trouble then you are in no way shape or form better than that person and don't expect to not get payback for that.

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    http://zeenews.india.com/cricket/sha...t_1986775.html

    According to a report in ANI, the 59-year-old has cited personal reasons for leaving the top job in the ICC. The lawyer from Nagpur was elected unopposed to the post for an initial period of two years last May.

    In the short-lived tenure, Manohar helped decentralise the power held by the so called 'Big Three' boards of India, Australia and England.

    The move, however, managed to irked his parent board the BCCI, even though, he was elected unopposed as the ICC's first independent chairman - one not affiliated to any of its member boards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
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    In the short-lived tenure, Manohar helped decentralise the power held by the so called 'Big Three' boards of India, Australia and England.

    The move, however, managed to irked his parent board the BCCI, even though, he was elected unopposed as the ICC's first independent chairman - one not affiliated to any of its member boards.
    BCCI, like the other boards, is supposed to spend the money it gets for the development of cricket. If you give BCCI 5X times of what you give Ireland, then you are giving 260X per Irish for development what you are giving per Indian.

    Why should an Indian receive only 1/260 of what is given to an Irish? It doesn't make sense. Manohar had an agenda, and it was something that was damaging to Indians. Glad that he is gone.

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    big three mafia strikes

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    Glad it happened. Cricket had no future with him as ICC president.

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    A SAD day for cricket.

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    Was always on the cards. Quite surprised that he lasted this long at least actually. Much respect for not shying away and taking em head on knowing full well the backlash he was going to face. Hats off.

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    Good should be isolated in BCCI ranks as well now,hopefully people don't forget his political game against his own country.

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    According to highly-placed sources Manohar has decided to quit as BCCI seems to have gained enough ground to block the constitutional and financial reforms that were set to be passed by the ICC at its next board meeting.

    Any reform to be passed needs 2/3rd majority but BCCI, in all likelihood, has managed to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe on its side.

    It is learnt, expecting a loss of face, Manohar has resigned with immediate effect.

    http://www.timesofindia.com/sports/c...w/57646490.cms

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    So SLC joined in as well by the sounds of it. Again no surprises bunch of corrupt crooks.

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    RIP ICC.

    Probably one of the worst days in cricket history.

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    Shame on Bangla and Sri Lanka.

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    Always on the cards. He will be a paraiah from now on in bcci. It is a face saving measure from him and he thought too high of himself

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    Don't think we can say Big 3 . . because England and Aus advocated for Shashank Manohar's plans . . so BCCI! hurting cricket . . and its development . . greed, lust for power . . might as well just make cricket into IPL and rack in all the dollars

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    Great day for Indian cricket. .this guy was ought to destroy and demolish Indian cricket

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    And BCCI is back..
    ICC should change its name..
    Baharat Cricket Council of International Matches.

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    Must be a terrible day for people who wanted to see Indian Cricket crippled under Manohar's raj.

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    Sad day for cricket... BCCI is now back as ICC.. Shame on bangla and SRL for supporting it.. Zimbos one of the most poorest boards can be taken into support for any amount ... but BCB who gets nothing, India not touring them with full team or asking bangla to come to India , playing tests with them... simply BCB just going along with the big boy with merely nothing in return

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Must be a terrible day for people who wanted to see Indian Cricket crippled under Manohar's raj.
    it is not about getting crippled, it is about being fair and not just let one boarding running all the other member board with a big share of money..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NauV View Post
    Don't think we can say Big 3 . . because England and Aus advocated for Shashank Manohar's plans . . so BCCI! hurting cricket . . and its development . . greed, lust for power . . might as well just make cricket into IPL and rack in all the dollars
    CA & ECB are two faced as well. They went with BCCI when they saw that it was advantageous to them. Then turned around and supported ICC when they felt the BCCI was down and they could gain some lost power. So these guys are just as selfish as the BCCI or the rest of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornbill View Post
    According to highly-placed sources Manohar has decided to quit as BCCI seems to have gained enough ground to block the constitutional and financial reforms that were set to be passed by the ICC at its next board meeting.

    Any reform to be passed needs 2/3rd majority but BCCI, in all likelihood, has managed to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe on its side.

    It is learnt, expecting a loss of face, Manohar has resigned with immediate effect.

    http://www.timesofindia.com/sports/c...w/57646490.cms
    I am sure the West Indies are also on BCCI's side.

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    This is trademark Shashank Manohar move, whenever the going gets tough, He quits, always the first one to jump like the rats in a sinking ship. Manohar did the same when BCCI was getting under turmoil and now that his proposals are facing difficulties he is running away.

    Anyhoo, Glad to see the back of this Gaddar, Manohar was trying to permanently damage Indian cricket and its Financial model. Right from percentage of ICC income, Pooled TV rights, to no home season for India, to punishing India for not playing Pakistan etc etc..

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    Good to see this clown stepping down. He appealed to the masses, but his demands were irrational. BCCI has every right to ask for the biggest slice of the pie considering the fact that they generate the most revenue. It is fair and square.

    PPers suffering from victim-mentality need to look at this logically. Why should freeloaders get BCCI's share just because they are incompetent? BCCI was not better than PCB back in the 90's, but they had a long-term vision and eventually became the most powerful and functional cricketing body in the world.

    Instead of crying because they are incompetent, other boards should pull their socks up and learn to be self-suficcient instead of aiming to survive on BCCI charity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Good to see this clown stepping down. He appealed to the masses, but his demands were irrational. BCCI has every right to ask for the biggest slice of the pie considering the fact that they generate the most revenue. It is fair and square.

    PPers suffering from victim-mentality need to look at this logically. Why should freeloaders get BCCI's share just because they are incompetent? BCCI was not better than PCB back in the 90's, but they had a long-term vision and eventually became the most powerful and functional cricketing body in the world.

    Instead of crying because they are incompetent, other boards should pull their socks up and learn to be self-suficcient instead of aiming to survive on BCCI charity.
    On the first bolded part - As bad as freeloading is, it is not the worst thing. What is even worse is there being no end game to the freeloading. It is a perpetual state of getting free money without any effort. Keep getting money for ever without doing any work or changing the way they do things.

    Spot on for the second bolded part. Get you butts off the couch, go change things and make your own money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    it is not about getting crippled, it is about being fair and not just let one boarding running all the other member board with a big share of money..
    I am all for fairness in Cricket, but it should be backed with fair policies. Ireland (a country of less than 0.5 crore people) is to get revenues comparable to Bangladesh or Pakistan? Does this sound fair to you?

    Or India (nearly 1/5th of humanity) getting revenues comparable to England? How fair is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    I am all for fairness in Cricket, but it should be backed with fair policies. Ireland (a country of less than 0.5 crore people) is to get revenues comparable to Bangladesh or Pakistan? Does this sound fair to you?

    Or India (nearly 1/5th of humanity) getting revenues comparable to England? How fair is that?
    What are u comparing, have u checked the new revenue model..

    England gets only half of what India gets

    Ireland gets only half of what Bangladesh and Pakistan gets

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...y/1081598.html

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    Death of a gentleman part 2...

    This monopolization of power by the big 3 is gonna ruin the game.


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    Sad day for cricket. We cricket fans had a lot of hope from Manohar, but he resigned at the wrong time under pressure from corrupt BCCI

    BCCI is already getting 2.5 time more than others in the new financial model and there is no reason for BCCI to cry. Ireland got nothing in the old model and the new model was going to give Ireland what they deserved

    Now we cricket fans can only hope that the new financial model gets passed somehow. ICC needs to get in touch with Lodha and force BCCI to approve the new model

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Sad day for cricket. We cricket fans had a lot of hope from Manohar, but he resigned at the wrong time under pressure from corrupt BCCI

    BCCI is already getting 2.5 time more than others in the new financial model and there is no reason for BCCI to cry. Ireland got nothing in the old model and the new model was going to give Ireland what they deserved

    Now we cricket fans can only hope that the new financial model gets passed somehow. ICC needs to get in touch with Lodha and force BCCI to approve the new model
    BCCI gets 2.5 times what others get because it earns icc lot more than 2.5 times any other board in icc, what exactly do ireland deserve tell me please, ireland are not a big draw, most irish wont watch ireland play cricket let alone rest of the world, they haven't won any worldcups or trophys so what exactly is it that they deserve and why.

    Lodha committee is no longer in the picture, it is the CoA that has power now and even it disagrees and voted against the financial changes made by icc. So i suppose given that even CoA are supporting bcci here even they must be corrupt unlike the rat that that is manohar, this is a guy who had nagpur curator roll out a green pitch to embarrass india and try and help the aussies because of his rivalry with dalmiya then, this is a guy who ran away to the icc the minute he saw he was going to challenged by lodha committee then he tried to screw bcci just when it was in a flux with lodha and CoA and tried to get model passed before bcci could stabilize and now he does what he does best by running away when he saw bcci has gotten its act together to make sure to shut out this financial model change.

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    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.


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    So glad! This idiot deserved to be sacked instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.

    So we are in agreement then, BCCI provides more than 70% of ICC revenues was asking just 20% in return. So, the BCCI will still be subsidising other cricket boards and at the same time get a larger share than the pathetic 4% it has been getting till now.

    Now, the Manohar and some other tried to blindside BCCI when it was at its weakest and tried to snatch even that pesky 20% revenue, get ready for Payback, it has only begun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    Well said

    The new proposed financial model is doing just that, bringing down BCCI's revenue from 34% to 25%, but still keeping it 2.5 times more than the 2nd highest earner

    I am a Indian and a cricket fan and I fully support the new financial model

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    BCCI gets 2.5 times what others get because it earns icc lot more than 2.5 times any other board in icc, what exactly do ireland deserve tell me please, ireland are not a big draw, most irish wont watch ireland play cricket let alone rest of the world, they haven't won any worldcups or trophys so what exactly is it that they deserve and why.

    Lodha committee is no longer in the picture, it is the CoA that has power now and even it disagrees and voted against the financial changes made by icc. So i suppose given that even CoA are supporting bcci here even they must be corrupt unlike the rat that that is manohar, this is a guy who had nagpur curator roll out a green pitch to embarrass india and try and help the aussies because of his rivalry with dalmiya then, this is a guy who ran away to the icc the minute he saw he was going to challenged by lodha committee then he tried to screw bcci just when it was in a flux with lodha and CoA and tried to get model passed before bcci could stabilize and now he does what he does best by running away when he saw bcci has gotten its act together to make sure to shut out this financial model change.
    Ireland deserves a fair share. Currently they get just 10% of what even Zimbabwe get

    BCCI does not deserve to eat up 34% of ICCs revenues themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    The biggest problem with what you say about more equitable distribution as you are trying to portray it my friend is even the recent bcci regime agreed that big 3 was unfair, so they agreed to reduce their share but it is one thing to reduce your share a bit to help every one and completely different thing when the share cut turns into 1/3 of the total income with chances of further reduction, leave bcci your country or icc out of it, will you were you in bcci or CoA's position agree to cutting your income by a 1/3, especially taking into account the infrastructure that needs to be maintained.

    Also about the whole competitive structure thing, for starters tests were never sold out and it is a problem facing test cricket not just india, play an ipl or odi or t20 game and see its sell out faster than you can say sell out. No one stopped others from marketing their cricket to their country did they, it is not bcci's fault that westindies have messed up and fallen behind, it is not india's fault that slc couldn't survive without bcci playing those 3 monthly series to keep them breathing, no one made PCB inept they just are, BCCI were a nobody until the late 90's, they created what they did on their own no one gave them handouts. Why can't others do the same.

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    I wonder when BCCI was ready to take about 14-15% of revenues down from 21% why did ICC not negotiate?What was the hurry to ram down the 50% deduction thats 10% of revenues down their throat?

    As and when BCCI gets back to its full strength there will be some very uncomfortable questions that will be asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Ireland deserves a fair share. Currently they get just 10% of what even Zimbabwe get

    BCCI does not deserve to eat up 34% of ICCs revenues themselves
    Mate get your stats correct first, bcci never had 34% of ICC's revenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Well said

    The new proposed financial model is doing just that, bringing down BCCI's revenue from 34% to 25%, but still keeping it 2.5 times more than the 2nd highest earner

    I am a Indian and a cricket fan and I fully support the new financial model
    BCCI's share was 20% which now has been cut to 11%, where are you getting your nos from dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    What are u comparing, have u checked the new revenue model..

    England gets only half of what India gets

    Ireland gets only half of what Bangladesh and Pakistan gets

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...y/1081598.html
    Still.. the revenue sharing model is outrageous !

    You think sustaining and growing Cricket in a country of 1.25 billion Cricket Crazy people needs only 5 times the amount compared to a country where hardly a dozen people care about Cricket?

    Let me ask you, is the revenue model being fair to Cricketers and fans in India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Well said

    The new proposed financial model is doing just that, bringing down BCCI's revenue from 34% to 25%, but still keeping it 2.5 times more than the 2nd highest earner

    I am a Indian and a cricket fan and I fully support the new financial model
    Where are you even pulling these random numbers seriously?

    BCCI was getting 20% of the revenue share in the big three model.Now in the new proposed model their share will be cut down to 10%.

    So you yourself agree that BCCI deserve 25% .So may be now you can as an Indian and a cricket fan can see why the BCCI is asking only for 20% which is more than fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Well said

    The new proposed financial model is doing just that, bringing down BCCI's revenue from 34% to 25%, but still keeping it 2.5 times more than the 2nd highest earner

    I am a Indian and a cricket fan and I fully support the new financial model
    I liked the Manohar model too. It's sad to see him flee like this now.

    I agree with the population argument but we should also study how revenue is shared in other sports. How much does the wildly popular Barcelona and Real Madrid get from the La Liga or UEFA media rights compared to other local teams ? I hear all 18 teams get the same share in the EPL ? Maybe somebody can do the research.


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    India's own politicking causing issues for the progression of World Cricket. I don't know how good or bad Manohar was...but Indian revenue is dependent on competitive cricket. The big 3 model is not sustainable and I'm not sure if the new proposed one was either. The issue needs to be addressed and eventually all boards will have to settle on a compromise..

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    Great day for Indian cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Sad day for cricket. We cricket fans had a lot of hope from Manohar, but he resigned at the wrong time under pressure from corrupt BCCI

    BCCI is already getting 2.5 time more than others in the new financial model and there is no reason for BCCI to cry. Ireland got nothing in the old model and the new model was going to give Ireland what they deserved
    In the new model, ICC would be giving every Indian $1, and every Irish $260. Please explain to me why the Irish deserve 260X?

    Even if you give Ireland $10M and BCCI the old $440M it used to get, that still means each Irish is being given $6 for every $1 an Indian gets. That is more than fair.

    Glad the clown Manohar is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    I have no issues with the distribution %. But it seems the incompetent boards will get handouts perpetually with absolutely no requirement to change themselves. That is just ridiculous.

    They should be put on a path of self sufficiency. Also limits put on how long they will get the handouts. They should be forced to get their act together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomaskutty View Post
    I liked the Manohar model too. It's sad to see him flee like this now.

    I agree with the population argument but we should also study how revenue is shared in other sports. How much does the wildly popular Barcelona and Real Madrid get from the La Liga or UEFA media rights compared to other local teams ? I hear all 18 teams get the same share in the EPL ? Maybe somebody can do the research.
    Barca and real have individual TV deals separate from la liga which iirc changed that to collective full league deal but with guarantees that neither will get any pay cut in new sharing which is why they agreed, epl has same share for all but with different riders mate, last season leicester won the league but still got less money than arsenal, utd, city and tottenham. But epl can't be compared to cricket it has multiple teams with good following, la liga is far more a comparison to cricket as only 2 teams really grab all the eyeballs same as cricket where india is the cash cow.

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    Its all about the Karma. Cricket needs BCCI at its full strength and hope they take back all the generated revenue with not even a penny being left out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Still.. the revenue sharing model is outrageous !

    You think sustaining and growing Cricket in a country of 1.25 billion Cricket Crazy people needs only 5 times the amount compared to a country where hardly a dozen people care about Cricket?

    Let me ask you, is the revenue model being fair to Cricketers and fans in India?
    Yes of course very fair, coming to ur question what were the 1.25 billion cricket crazy people before big 3 , boycotted cricket and the sport was dead,

    the amount compared to a country where hardly a dozen people care about Cricket?
    for that u want to kill the game and never want to promote the game...

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    Shame to SL, BD and WI cricket boards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    Amir with a pipebomb on his return

    Good post, I nominate it for POTW.

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    Good decision from bangladesh cricket board. With 3 boards on its side cricket reforms are done and dusted.

    Slc and bcb u r support will not be forgotten too easily by bcci. Thanks for staying with us in tough times

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Yes of course very fair, coming to ur question what were the 1.25 billion cricket crazy people before big 3 , boycotted cricket and the sport was dead,
    For your username, I would expect a better reply than this meaingless post above. BCCI serving 300 times more population deserves 5 times as much money as Ireland? Explain how.


    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    for that u want to kill the game and never want to promote the game...
    Again, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Despite bringing most of the revenue, didn't BCCI agree to take a substantial cut just for the sport to be promoted? It was ICC and Manohar who got too greedy, and what they want is irrational.

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    I don't see why the various reforms can't be voted on separately. That way the BCCI keeps their money and Afghanistan and Ireland can get Test status. I imagine thats what will happen eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    I don't see why the various reforms can't be voted on separately. That way the BCCI keeps their money and Afghanistan and Ireland can get Test status. I imagine thats what will happen eventually.
    Dont think the oppositon is to their test status.It is to other issues including money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Dont think the oppositon is to their test status.It is to other issues including money.
    Why weren't these separate proposals? Or are they? Why is everyone assuming its all one big package deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    Why weren't these separate proposals? Or are they? Why is everyone assuming its all one big package deal?
    Its one big package deal under the constitutional amendments to ICC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    Why dont you leave our public to us?Its funny how a Pakistani is judging what Indian public will do.

    The power grab try by ECB/CA will fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Well said

    The new proposed financial model is doing just that, bringing down BCCI's revenue from 34% to 25%, but still keeping it 2.5 times more than the 2nd highest earner

    I am a Indian and a cricket fan and I fully support the new financial model
    India has 24 times the population of the next highest earner. So it will still be getting 1/10th the money for cricket development as the 2nd highest earner. You think that is fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    For your username, I would expect a better reply than this meaingless post above. BCCI serving 300 times more population deserves 5 times as much money as Ireland? Explain how.
    Exactly! No one has given any sort of argument why an Irish should get 60 times the money as an Indian gets.

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    I am not saying that the money should be shared strictly according to population. But this money is supposed to be used for cricket development and population should also be taken into consideration.

    I don't mind if an Aussie or an Irish gets two times, three times, even five times of what an Indian gets. But the ratios in the joker Manohar proposal are totally out of whack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    India has 24 times the population of the next highest earner. So it will still be getting 1/10th the money for cricket development as the 2nd highest earner. You think that is fair?
    The huge population in itself helps the BCCI earn far more than money than anyone else from it's own incomes already, not sure they should then receive a huge chunk of the ICC payouts as well. That money should be used to help develop the game in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    The huge population in itself helps the BCCI earn far more than money than anyone else from it's own incomes already, not sure they should then receive a huge chunk of the ICC payouts as well. That money should be used to help develop the game in reality.
    "ICC payouts" are not money that ICC itself produces. It is money produced by cricket games that are played. Like other sources of cricket revenues, much of this money is produced by games which the Indian team plays. And it is not an insignificant part of the total revenues produced by cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    The huge population in itself helps the BCCI earn far more than money than anyone else from it's own incomes already, not sure they should then receive a huge chunk of the ICC payouts as well. That money should be used to help develop the game in reality.
    And they also have to spend far more money than anyone else. Besides, Indian population isn't helping just India, but it has helped every single Cricket board for the last 20 years. The only reason boards like Ireland and Afganistan are in line to get tens of millions is also because of the same population.

    So irrespective of what revenue share BCCI settles for, it has already played it's part in developing the game far more than any other board (or all of them taken together).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    "ICC payouts" are not money that ICC itself produces. It is money produced by cricket games that are played. Like other sources of cricket revenues, much of this money is produced by games which the Indian team plays. And it is not an insignificant part of the total revenues produced by cricket.
    No, it's mostly money generated through ICC sponsorships. Look at many other major sports in the world and this kind of money will be split fairly evenly between member teams independent of their population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    And they also have to spend far more money than anyone else.
    And naturally you'd expect the increased income they're taking in due to the population to be proportional to the increased requirement for spending, just like every other board. The ICC money should be used to further and develop the game as much as possible, particularly in areas it's currently going ok but needs that extra kick to get to the next level.
    Last edited by HitWicket; 15th March 2017 at 16:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    No, it's mostly money generated through ICC sponsorships.
    And you do realize that "sponsorships" happen because cricket games are played.

    Look at many other major sports in the world and this kind of money will be split fairly evenly between member teams independent of their population.
    Please give an example. Other than football I cannot think of another sport that generates significant revenues from inter-country sports. And FIFA is so riddled with corruption that using that as a model for fairness is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunRay View Post
    Shame on Bangla and Sri Lanka.
    Boards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    In the new model, ICC would be giving every Indian $1, and every Irish $260. Please explain to me why the Irish deserve 260X?

    Even if you give Ireland $10M and BCCI the old $440M it used to get, that still means each Irish is being given $6 for every $1 an Indian gets. That is more than fair.

    Glad the clown Manohar is gone.
    What a ridiculous comment U BCCI supporters have totally lost ur minds

    Ireland also deserve to get a fair share of the ICC revenues. In the current model, they are getting just 1/10th of what Zimbabwe get

    And BCCI don't deserve to eat into 34% of the share like they are doing now

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    What a ridiculous comment U BCCI supporters have totally lost ur minds

    Ireland also deserve to get a fair share of the ICC revenues. In the current model, they are getting just 1/10th of what Zimbabwe get

    And BCCI don't deserve to eat into 34% of the share like they are doing now
    Do explain why "BCCI don't deserve to eat into 34% of the share" given that it still would give Indians less than 1/100 times per capita the Irish get? Not being able to answer this question I guess at this point name-calling is the best argument you have left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    Great day for Indian cricket.
    And 1 of the darkest days for world cricket, and eventually a dark day for Indian cricket too in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Do explain why "BCCI don't deserve to eat into 34% of the share" given that it still would give Indians less than 1/100 times per capita the Irish get? Not being able to answer this question I guess at this point name-calling is the best argument you have left.
    Going by ur logic, China deserves to get a lot of share from FIFA revenues, whereas higher ranked countries with small populations don't deserve to get FIFA revenues

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulGame View Post
    Where are you even pulling these random numbers seriously?

    BCCI was getting 20% of the revenue share in the big three model.Now in the new proposed model their share will be cut down to 10%.

    So you yourself agree that BCCI deserve 25% .So may be now you can as an Indian and a cricket fan can see why the BCCI is asking only for 20% which is more than fair.
    Any links to that? From what I have read, BCCI's revenue is being cut from 34% to about 25-26% of ICC's revenues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drreddymd View Post
    Good decision from bangladesh cricket board. With 3 boards on its side cricket reforms are done and dusted.

    Slc and bcb u r support will not be forgotten too easily by bcci. Thanks for staying with us in tough times
    LOL, I'm afraid you are right, if BCB and Lanka realised what is best for them AND world cricket in the long run then they wouldn't have done this but too short-sighted.

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    The Supreme Court appointed administrators are not very fond of ICC it seems.

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    Meh. Good people don't last long. Corrupt people and their followers always have the last laugh.


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    Wow Sad day for people who enjoy cricket, and associate nations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Dear BCCI Lovers and Mamoon,

    Please learn how to read. No one wants to make revenue distribution equal. No one trying to kill BCCI. Everyone needs a healthy BCCI and Indian cricket team, just like we need a healthy board and competitive teams for other countries.

    All people were asking is for a better distribution model. Agreed, India makes a significant amount of money but are only able to do so because THERE IS A COMPETITIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. You destroy that, then all you left with is India A vs. India B. Your public is not stupid. They will only lap that up for so long. That is evident by the diminishing test audience (back in 2004, every day was sold out vs Australia....now you get half empty stadiums...this never happened in India).

    So again. Please learn to read. No one is saying to distribute revenue equally. BCCI still deserves biggest share. The world is just asking to skim some off the top so we can protect our game. A game that belongs to everybody. Not just India. Otherwise, you should break all bilateral agreements now and just institutionalize IPL for 8 months of the year.
    Perfectly said.


    Does cricket survive off of it's money or does it survive for it's money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Still.. the revenue sharing model is outrageous !

    You think sustaining and growing Cricket in a country of 1.25 billion Cricket Crazy people needs only 5 times the amount compared to a country where hardly a dozen people care about Cricket?

    Let me ask you, is the revenue model being fair to Cricketers and fans in India?
    Can you not understand?? A nation which already has infrastructure and a system does not need as much money as a nation which has nothing. My local mosque doesn't need as much money off donations compared a mosque that still needs to be built..

    Some people


    Does cricket survive off of it's money or does it survive for it's money?

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