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    Pakistani commentators to miss IPL (2017)

    Noted commentator and presenter Harsha Bhogle’s time away from the broadcasting studios and commentary booth’s could end very soon. Bhogle has spent nearly a year in exile after his comments in the box wasn’t well received by some members of the Indian cricket team and officials within the BCCI. But with BCCI under new administration, the previous concerns with Bhogle are unlikely to find the same pressure. With that, Harsha could come out and be inside the studios for the upcoming edition of IPL 10.

    As per a report by Mumbai Mirror, barring a few late hiccups from now and the start of the tournament on April 5, Bhogle’s return to the studio is all but done even if he doesn’t get to hold the microphone as a commentator. Besides the change in power equation within the BCCI, another factor that tips things in Harsha’s favour are the lack of options for official TV broadcaster Sony Entertainment with the likes of Ramiz Raja, Waqar Younis and Shoaib Akhtar unavailable to be part of the event due to the strained India-Pakistan relations.


    The report also states that the negotiations between the two parties have been going on for some time but no official contract has been signed yet. Having said that, it is more of a formality at this juncture. One of the the reasons why no official confirmation has been to the effect has been to avoid any derailment in the decision-making.

    The story and the controversy came to the fore last year when Harsha’s criticism of the Indian team wasn’t well taken by actor Amitabh Bachchan who indirectly took a shot at Bhogle. This tweet was subsequently re-tweeted by former Indian captain MS Dhoni and complaints were made to BCCI by Virat Kohli and Murali Vijay. Bhogle was then cut at a late stage from the IPL 9 as well despite being part of its early production videos and promotion. He then had said that it was done without any clear reason:

    “No one told me anything. I have not been formally told of the reason even now. All I have been told is ‘it is a BCCI management decision’.”

    While Bhogle wants to commentate, as per the report, he can’t do so at the time with the production rights held by BCCI (technically IMG) . Other commentators on the panel for IPL 10 include Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, L Sivaramakrishnan and Sanjay Manjrekar from India with other options from other countries.

    http://indianexpress.com/article/spo...eport-4568629/
    Last edited by MenInG; 18th March 2017 at 16:58.

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    i think ramiz will be doing commentary for pak /west indies series along with waqar younis thats why they

    opted out or bcci did not invited them this year

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    Would make no sense for Pak comms to be there whilst their players arent allowed to take part.


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    Not sure who is worse: bhogle or rameez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Would make no sense for Pak comms to be there whilst their players arent allowed to take part.
    agree

    but there were going until last year{correct me if i am wrong}ramiz pull out of it due to psl draft i think

    i hope they never go unless pak player are allowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Not sure who is worse: bhogle or rameez.
    atleast now ramiz will less praises india team and ipl which is cringe worthy

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    How insecure are some of the players and celebs who cant take critiscim of their own team, Harsha is normally pretty balanced in their views, you have to take both sides of the coin, simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Not sure who is worse: bhogle or rameez.
    Rameez but some distance

    Bhogle has some substance from time to time. I remember in the 2012 asia cup he was comentating with Wasim and Ramiz and mentioned Haris Sohail as an upcoming batsman. Wasim kept quite, Ramiz said 'Who'


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    Rameez but some distance

    Bhogle has some substance from time to time. I remember in the 2012 asia cup he was comentating with Wasim and Ramiz and mentioned Haris Sohail as an upcoming batsman. Wasim kept quite, Ramiz said 'Who'
    People like Rameez and Shastri are there only for their voice and energy.

    They add nothing of value to any discussion.

    Rameez goes an extra step and makes a mockery of the whole profession of commentary in the name of analysis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Not sure who is worse: bhogle or rameez.
    Rameez is just above Athar Ali Khan in the list of worst international commentators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    People like Rameez and Shastri are there only for their voice and energy.

    They add nothing of value to any discussion.

    Rameez goes an extra step and makes a mockery of the whole profession of commentary in the name of analysis.
    exactly Ramiz is the icing on the cake which is all well and good but till Bazid Khan pakistan have in recent times not had an commentator who knows about the current state of affairs in Pak cricket. Even Waqar was limited to just the national team, knew little about Domestic Cricket. Wasim is only good when it comes to explaining bowling strategy


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    Bhogle really isn't that bad of a commentator lol. There are much worse than him.


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    I dont understand why bhogle gets ripped apart on PP by so many people. He is not that bad at all. Personally speaking, I like listening to him. He has his own style being a non-cricketer and i respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Would make no sense for Pak comms to be there whilst their players arent allowed to take part.
    I dont really think its necessary for a Pakistani to commentate you need to have Pakistani players.

    A commentator provides good insight and entertainment and its not necessary his team should be playing.

    Like Micheal holding commentating in a Test series in England vs Pakistan or Alan Wilkins commentating in PSL


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    Quote Originally Posted by nighthawk23 View Post
    Rameez is just above Athar Ali Khan in the list of worst international commentators.
    no hes not.

    Rameez Raja is a great commentator, he has a great voice and keeps the viewer in the game.

    Even Harsha is a great commie


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    Rameez but some distance

    Bhogle has some substance from time to time. I remember in the 2012 asia cup he was comentating with Wasim and Ramiz and mentioned Haris Sohail as an upcoming batsman. Wasim kept quite, Ramiz said 'Who'
    Unfortunately I hate neoliberalism even more than amateurism. Bhogle lives off corporate welfare by trying to spin yarns about how sport and business are similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nighthawk23 View Post
    Rameez is just above Athar Ali Khan in the list of worst international commentators.
    Yes bhogle has faux independence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    no hes not.

    Rameez Raja is a great commentator, he has a great voice and keeps the viewer in the game.

    Even Harsha is a great commie
    Bhogle is a neoliberal capitalist groupie of ilk of Thomas Friedman and Niall Ferguson. His schtick consists of crafting idiotic and relatable sophistry for the purpose of selling corporate kool aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Bhogle is a neoliberal capitalist groupie of ilk of Thomas Friedman and Niall Ferguson. His schtick consists of crafting idiotic and relatable sophistry for the purpose of selling corporate kool aid
    he is a sell out more than an ideologue, but if one can ignore that then i find him more informative then other commies. On a side note I take it you are more closer to Keynesianism


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    he is a sell out more than an ideologue, but if one can ignore that then i find him more informative then other commies. On a side note I take it you are more closer to Keynesianism
    In the long run we're all dead but not Pakistan cricket

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    Will cost Ramiz the chance to finalise his films cast and crew, apparently casting of Sanjay Dutt and maybe Katrina Kaif in the lead.

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    what exactly did harsha say about the indian team?


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    atleast now ramiz will less praises india team and ipl which is cringe worthy
    IPL is cringeworthy then who do you deem PSL and BPL and other leagues to be ?
    Atleast leave your personal hatred aside or make an attempt to hide it when you post bud , It is way too apparent when you write. Keep your personal emotions for India aside when debating of cricket , you'll come across more respectable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah View Post
    what exactly did harsha say about the indian team?
    On the contrary, it was a lack of saying anything. He was praising BD during the Wt20 match against India and Amitabh tweeted about it and then it just got out of control from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    IPL is cringeworthy then who do you deem PSL and BPL and other leagues to be ?
    Atleast leave your personal hatred aside or make an attempt to hide it when you post bud , It is way too apparent when you write. Keep your personal emotions for India aside when debating of cricket , you'll come across more respectable
    i am talking about bilateral series of pakistan where in the past(glad after first edition of psl he is less vocal

    and admirer about ipl)ramiz have tendency to bring indian cricket and ipl from out of nowhere which is what

    i am pointing out. he should talk about ongoing series rather than irrelevant topic.

    and sir you cannot force any body to like something he don,t, i am not here to

    remain in the good books of people and act fake

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    i am talking about bilateral series of pakistan where in the past(glad after first edition of psl he is less vocal

    and admirer about ipl)ramiz have tendency to bring indian cricket and ipl from out of nowhere which is what

    i am pointing out. he should talk about ongoing series rather than irrelevant topic.

    and sir you cannot force any body to like something he don,t, i am not here to

    remain in the good books of people and act fake
    Oh I am not asking you like something bud, I found it quite odd whether the concern you were raising was with IPL or Ramiz commentating in IPL . As far T20 leagues go IPL has been a game changer and remains on top of the podium so I wasn't sure whether you dislike T20 leagues in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeuk View Post
    How insecure are some of the players and celebs who cant take critiscim of their own team, Harsha is normally pretty balanced in their views, you have to take both sides of the coin, simple as that.
    This is the desi mentality. The best way to prove that you are a patriot is by calling someone a traitor or just imply it in front of others. Amitabh Bachan did the same with Harsha. Even here you will find members who can ridicule others opinions and call them traitors if they do not agree with their opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    Oh I am not asking you like something bud, I found it quite odd whether the concern you were raising was with IPL or Ramiz commentating in IPL . As far T20 leagues go IPL has been a game changer and remains on top of the podium so I wasn't sure whether you dislike T20 leagues in general.
    i don,t care about ipl only wish good luck to it may it prosper more in the future . i was disappointed with

    ramiz raja as a comentator in the past but he is doing fine job now for pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    i don,t care about ipl only wish good luck to it may it prosper more in the future . i was disappointed with

    ramiz raja as a comentator in the past but he is doing fine job now for pakistan
    Got it ! I'v always liked him as a commentator , I think He is the most recognized face in commentating from Pak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    This is the desi mentality. The best way to prove that you are a patriot is by calling someone a traitor or just imply it in front of others. Amitabh Bachan did the same with Harsha. Even here you will find members who can ridicule others opinions and call them traitors if they do not agree with their opinion.
    i feel for Harsha that a major celeb like Amitabh Bachan singled him out and hence where harsha was dropped. Harsha is allowed to express his views in a respectful manner if thats how he feels but for some reason thats not allowed. I prefer listenign to his views compared to some abrupt commentators who will do anythign for TRP's. I hope Harsha comes back soon, I like him.

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