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  • Hasan Ali

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  • Jasprit Bumrah

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  • Mustafizur Rahman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Regressing?

    He just won his side their first test win abroad against a test side.

    And despite negatives he has averages below 20. And that matter most. He has performed. People label him as the best. He has been winning a lot of matches for the team.

    Question is how many matches Hasan Ali has won for Pakistan? Because I know Fizz was major contribution in atleast 7-8 of our wins and few minor contributions too. And it's not like he has played too.many matches either.
    Hasan Ali has ODI wins in England and Aus, how many matches shave Bangladeshi have won at the MCG? Hasan has a 5fer in Aus? How many 5fer he has in Aus? lol

    Trundler fizz will get spanked in the CT in England wait and watch.

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    Pakistan won a grand total of 2 matches out of 10 first of all.

    He averaged 28 in those series. Fizz averages 14. Now that's like half if you know maths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix363 View Post
    Despite being no where near his best, easily Amir.

    The rest are average. And please don't start posting stats to show me how amazing the cutter specialist etc are doing. If that meant so much, Ajantha Mendis would already be an ATG right now.
    Amir is better than all of them, but he is also older. You would rate Amir as an upcoming talent 6-7 years ago, but not anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    Who is Hasan Ali? Is he an Afghan bowler?
    He is from Pakistan and he looks like this:


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    Fizz is actually 3 years younger than both of them.


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    Slow death AKA Mustafizur Rehman.

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    Hasan Ali. He is even better than Amir at the moment.

    As stated above, would like to see what Mustafizur can produce outside of home. Also don't see him lasting in Tests with his injury issues, while Hasan has a future in all 3 formats.

    Hasan is a great opening as well as death bowler, and is a smart cookie. Averages under 30 despite playing some of the toughest cricket he'll ever be playing, and already having the worst game of his career.

    Bumrah is a death bowler and is not nearly as complete a bowler as Hasan or even Mustafizur.


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    I think most of the names mentionned here haven't played enough, especially Test cricket.

    Let them play enough and We will see.
    Have to say I was very surprised with some beautiful bowl bowled by Hasan Ali In PSL. That would have been great outswing deliveries even in test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Hasan Ali. He is even better than Amir at the moment.

    As stated above, would like to see what Mustafizur can produce outside of home. Also don't see him lasting in Tests with his injury issues, while Hasan has a future in all 3 formats.

    Hasan is a great opening as well as death bowler, and is a smart cookie. Averages under 30 despite playing some of the toughest cricket he'll ever be playing, and already having the worst game of his career.

    Bumrah is a death bowler and is not nearly as complete a bowler as Hasan or even Mustafizur.
    I disagree. Although he takes more wickets, he is too expensive to be considered our best bowler. Definitely has the potential to spearhead the attack in a few years time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I disagree. Although he takes more wickets, he is too expensive to be considered our best bowler. Definitely has the potential to spearhead the attack in a few years time.
    Wicket-taking bowlers tend to be expensive.

    His ER will get better over the next few series.


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    Mustafiz and it is not even close.

    He is going to go down as the first undisputed ATG from Bangladesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Amir is better than all of them, but he is also older. You would rate Amir as an upcoming talent 6-7 years ago, but not anymore.
    The thread is talking about the best bowler below 25. Amir fits that criteria.

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    Contrary to the popular opinion, i think hassan ali is quite inferior to fizz and bumrah. Atleast these two have won matched for their country.

    But i think rashid khan can also br considered as the best in asia

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    Quite a mediocre performance from Mustafizur today.

    Taskin looks to be on the path of greatness though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Quite a mediocre performance from Mustafizur today.

    Taskin looks to be on the path of greatness though.
    Won't call it mediocre. Fizz bowled good lines. He will be more effective when the opposition are in with a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Won't call it mediocre. Fizz bowled good lines. He will be more effective when the opposition are in with a chance.
    I watched the match. Fizz was up and down throughout.

    3 wickets at 6.96 is not above or below average.

    I think captain needs to give ball earlier to Fizz. Maybe before giving it to Shakib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I watched the match. Fizz was up and down throughout.

    3 wickets at 6.96 is not above or below average.

    I think captain needs to give ball earlier to Fizz. Maybe before giving it to Shakib.
    I think batsman played him comparatively freely because there was no real pressure on the lower order batsman. This happens to good bowlers that bowl later in the match when the top order underperforms.

    He is better with the old ball. And today Lanka tried to be overaggressive because they knew they could never score more than 10 rpo with Fizz and Taskin at the death.

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    33 wickets now in 12 matches for the Fizz. Needs to take 17 more wickets in 7 games or under to break Ajantha Mendis' record of fastest to 50 wickets.

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    Lol how on earth is this 5 foot 7 inch trundler Hasan Ali being compared to the Fizz? Only on PakPassion.

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    The Bangladeshi is the best. Anyone picking the other two options needs to be labelled a blind nationalist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    Lol how on earth is this 5 foot 7 inch trundler Hasan Ali being compared to the Fizz? Only on PakPassion.
    And Fizz isn't a trundler?

    Last time I checked having an average pace of 127 km/h throughout an entire test is what medium pacers do.

    Watch Hasan Ali live then make a comment.

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    Taskin outperforming "Fizz" for the second straight game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Taskin outperforming "Fizz" for the second straight game.
    Fizz definitely bowled better in the first game.

    Taskin bowled much better today can't disagree.

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    Taskin is a very good bowler. My favourite Bangladesh player .

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    Anyone that knows some basic principles of fast bowling can tell you that Taskin is miles ahead as a bowler when compared to Mustafizur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Anyone that knows some basic principles of fast bowling can tell you that Taskin is miles ahead as a bowler when compared to Mustafizur.
    100% agreed, people are blindly living off the hype he created in 2015, before he got injured and lost his pace and skills. But sadly Bangalis are too delusional to listen to reason.Taskin has more pace and swing than Mustafizur, who is a trundler and overly reliant on his cutters, soon he will be found out, he has no pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Anyone that knows some basic principles of fast bowling can tell you that Taskin is miles ahead as a bowler when compared to Mustafizur.
    Mustafiz outperformed Taskin today.

    Fizz: 10 overs, 2-55

    Taskin: 8 overs, 1-48


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    Shadab, hands down.


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    Shadad Khan
    Hassan Ali
    Amir
    Fizz

    The above is Not in any particular order

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    And Fizz isn't a trundler?

    Last time I checked having an average pace of 127 km/h throughout an entire test is what medium pacers do.

    Watch Hasan Ali live then make a comment.
    Hassan Ali is bowling high 130's and low 140's these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatoo View Post
    Hassan Ali is bowling high 130's and low 140's these days.
    You obv are not watching the ongoing series where he is clocking 146kph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatoo View Post
    Shadad Khan
    Hassan Ali
    Amir
    Fizz

    The above is Not in any particular order
    Kuldeep Yadav tops the list for me

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    Mohammed Amir and Shadab Khan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by in_cutter View Post
    You obv are not watching the ongoing series where he is clocking 146kph.
    I obviously am watching that's why I said low 140's

    146 was just one effort ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    Lol how on earth is this 5 foot 7 inch trundler Hasan Ali being compared to the Fizz? Only on PakPassion.
    Correction not a trundler. He is clocking 90mph.

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    hassan ali is on the rise and fizz is a bit silent these days...i personally like the other guy from bangla...taskin yess...he is long term prospect and will surely takeover mustafiz in future ..

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    Deadly bowling from Hasan Ali today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Anyone that knows some basic principles of fast bowling can tell you that Taskin is miles ahead as a bowler when compared to Mustafizur.
    Umm not quite. Check the averages and econ rate in any format. Taskin is a very good prospect, but Mustafiz has been bowling like a 10 year veteran from day 1 as a teenager in an era of flat wickets and fat bats. Even out of form he's picked 6 wickets from 3 matches, and bowled the match winning spell in an overseas Test match for Bangladesh.

    Taskin will become a very good bowler soon. Mustafiz already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    Umm not quite. Check the averages and econ rate in any format. Taskin is a very good prospect, but Mustafiz has been bowling like a 10 year veteran from day 1 as a teenager in an era of flat wickets and fat bats. Even out of form he's picked 6 wickets from 3 matches, and bowled the match winning spell in an overseas Test match for Bangladesh.

    Taskin will become a very good bowler soon. Mustafiz already is.
    I couldn't care less about the bullying Mustafizur has done.

    Taskin is much quicker and has shown more ability to move the ball around. Although, Taskin's work ethic is poor to say the least.

    Mustafizur is just a cutter specialist with no pace.

    However, I rate Hasan ahead of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    I couldn't care less about the bullying Mustafizur has done.

    Taskin is much quicker and has shown more ability to move the ball around. Although, Taskin's work ethic is poor to say the least.

    Mustafizur is just a cutter specialist with no pace.

    However, I rate Hasan ahead of both.
    Take it from a guy who has watched almost every spell bowled by both bowlers in their entire career. You are wrong on pretty much every point.

    1) Taskin is only a yard quicker than Mustafiz by BOTH average pace and max pace. Taskin generally averages 85 mph, Mustafiz 80-82 and that too because he bowls a lot of slower deliveries. His true average would be arpund 83 mph. You tell me what the difference between 85 and 83 is. 2 if I recall correctly. In terms of top pace, Taskin's fastest speed was 148 kph in the Asia Cup match vs Pakistan. Fizz clocked 144 in the IPL, and apart from that has clocked 143 vs SL in the first Test and also 143 vs South Africa in Chittagong. Again the difference is only 4-5 kph.

    2) Mustafiz can swing the new ball on occaision as he did vs SL. Taskin has absolutely zero swing, none at all. They can both reverse the ball when the conditions allow it. Taskin does get the ball to jag off the seam, and also gets more bounce than you would expect from a bowler who is only 6'2" tall.

    3) There is no evidence to suggest Taskin's work ethic is poor. In fact, given the injury issues he's had and the fact that he's a gym rat, its more likely he takes his job quite seriously.

    You can rate Mohammad Sami ahead of both of them, why stop at Hasan or Lahiru Kumara. But frankly, you need to go and learn about fast bowling or at least watch the guys you speak of if you want to prevent the bakwas thats hemorrhaging from your ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    Take it from a guy who has watched almost every spell bowled by both bowlers in their entire career. You are wrong on pretty much every point.

    1) Taskin is only a yard quicker than Mustafiz by BOTH average pace and max pace. Taskin generally averages 85 mph, Mustafiz 80-82 and that too because he bowls a lot of slower deliveries. His true average would be arpund 83 mph. You tell me what the difference between 85 and 83 is. 2 if I recall correctly. In terms of top pace, Taskin's fastest speed was 148 kph in the Asia Cup match vs Pakistan. Fizz clocked 144 in the IPL, and apart from that has clocked 143 vs SL in the first Test and also 143 vs South Africa in Chittagong. Again the difference is only 4-5 kph.

    2) Mustafiz can swing the new ball on occaision as he did vs SL. Taskin has absolutely zero swing, none at all. They can both reverse the ball when the conditions allow it. Taskin does get the ball to jag off the seam, and also gets more bounce than you would expect from a bowler who is only 6'2" tall.

    3) There is no evidence to suggest Taskin's work ethic is poor. In fact, given the injury issues he's had and the fact that he's a gym rat, its more likely he takes his job quite seriously.

    You can rate Mohammad Sami ahead of both of them, why stop at Hasan or Lahiru Kumara. But frankly, you need to go and learn about fast bowling or at least watch the guys you speak of if you want to prevent the bakwas thats hemorrhaging from your ears.
    No need to start taking things personal.

    1) Mustafizur has been clocking 127-130 kph on average since his comeback (test cricket) now your telling me he's bowling that many slower balls in test cricket?

    2) Did I say Taskin had the ability to swing the ball around? I said that he's shown more ability to 'move' the ball around than Mustafizur. The bounce also is a major factor to the fact that Taskin will outdo Mustafizur

    3) I've had a few Bengali friends say that and some also say that he thinks he's already some superstar.

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    Afghani bowler Rashid Khan did well in LOI and Mustafizur from Bangladesh is inspiring.

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    4-21 for Fizz

    Best T20I bowler in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    4-21 for Fizz

    Best T20I bowler in the world
    In T20 format,Fizz is the best.He is Imad Wasim of Bangladaesh.
    But in ODIs and Tests,he is mediocre.

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    Some eye opening posts.

    Hasan Ali is the best Asian fast bowler. Arguments: Don't look at the records. Nice. See pace of 135. Wow!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BD-fan View Post
    Some eye opening posts.

    Hasan Ali is the best Asian fast bowler. Arguments: Don't look at the records. Nice. See pace of 135. Wow!!!!
    Hasan Ali recently bowled quicker. Even hit 146.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed abbas View Post
    In T20 format,Fizz is the best.He is Imad Wasim of Bangladaesh.
    But in ODIs and Tests,he is mediocre.
    Mediocre is a harsh word because he has been doing well in both formats with great figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    4-21 for Fizz

    Best T20I bowler in the world
    no doubt hands down .he is unbelievable just needs to remain fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Mediocre is a harsh word because he has been doing well in both formats with great figures.
    Agree that mediocre is a little harsh.But I do not think he will be the strike bowler for Bangla team in Odis and Tests.I saw his first spell when he made debut against Pakistan.He was quite impressive.He was making the batsmen feel uncomfortable with his line,length and accuracy instead of the off-cutters.
    But unfortunately,he now relies heavily on his off-cutters.It was sad too see him bowling many off-cutters in the recent test series with Sri Lanka.He does not look threatening with his line and length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed abbas View Post
    Agree that mediocre is a little harsh.But I do not think he will be the strike bowler for Bangla team in Odis and Tests.I saw his first spell when he made debut against Pakistan.He was quite impressive.He was making the batsmen feel uncomfortable with his line,length and accuracy instead of the off-cutters.
    But unfortunately,he now relies heavily on his off-cutters.It was sad too see him bowling many off-cutters in the recent test series with Sri Lanka.He does not look threatening with his line and length.
    But his wickets​ were off conventional deliveries.

    I think he bowled well in the test. In the second test he bowled exceptional lines and lengths which won us the match.

    While it's true he needs to up his pace. He can only add more feathers to his cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed abbas View Post
    Agree that mediocre is a little harsh.But I do not think he will be the strike bowler for Bangla team in Odis and Tests.I saw his first spell when he made debut against Pakistan.He was quite impressive.He was making the batsmen feel uncomfortable with his line,length and accuracy instead of the off-cutters.
    But unfortunately,he now relies heavily on his off-cutters.It was sad too see him bowling many off-cutters in the recent test series with Sri Lanka.He does not look threatening with his line and length.
    he is still struggling in his mind with injury concern according to some expers such as national physio and others. Thats why he doesn't ball freely as he used to but I am sure with time he will over come the bad thinking of injury and will to bowl frre of mind with full flow .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    But his wickets​ were off conventional deliveries.

    I think he bowled well in the test. In the second test he bowled exceptional lines and lengths which won us the match.

    While it's true he needs to up his pace. He can only add more feathers to his cap.
    He may have taken wickets with conventional deliveries but it does not look pleasing to see a fast bowler bowling so many cutters,particularly in test matches.He was bowling with decent speed on his debut.In the test series,some of his deliveries were in low 120s.I hope that he does not become Pollard or Irfan Pathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaan View Post
    he is still struggling in his mind with injury concern according to some expers such as national physio and others. Thats why he doesn't ball freely as he used to but I am sure with time he will over come the bad thinking of injury and will to bowl frre of mind with full flow .
    May be that can be the reason.Does he swing or seam the ball.I have yet to see him moving the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed abbas View Post
    He may have taken wickets with conventional deliveries but it does not look pleasing to see a fast bowler bowling so many cutters,particularly in test matches.He was bowling with decent speed on his debut.In the test series,some of his deliveries were in low 120s.I hope that he does not become Pollard or Irfan Pathan.
    Fizz is a full fledged pacer so won't become the same as Pollard or Pathan as.long he avoids injury

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Fizz is a full fledged pacer so won't become the same as Pollard or Pathan as.long he avoids injury
    Best of luck to him then.

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    Good bowling today by Mustafizur after going wicket less in the first match,it must have boosted his confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen4 View Post
    stop saying "Fizz won us the test", he didn't, Sri Lanka were a horror show in the field, they shot themselves on the foot several times, batsmen were poor, fielders were poor, they let them down, nothing extraordinary from Bangldeshis, they just kept playing and Sri Lanka kept them in the game, serve it on a plate for them to win the test match.
    hahaha when lankan head coach and players all were accepted defeat and saying how Bangladesh had given them trouble,a tough time and won the second test and here you are talking all your delusional garbage like excuses after excuses how Srilanka were not playing well, it is not srilanka it is Bangladesh who played with own plan and made Lanka fall apart that is how a team win over other obviously losing team look poor in that case.

    So you think this the way Australia lost to Srilanka last time when Australia visited Srailanka because Austalia played poorly. ??
    Last edited by Shaan; 7th April 2017 at 14:13.

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    43 runs in 5 overs with 0 wickets against West Indies for the best young pacer in Asia.

    Fizz on his worst day bowling with a broken leg won't ever have legendary figures like this.

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    Fizz the ATG had to be the best bowler in Asia.

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    Hasan Ali further reinforcing claims that he is indeed the best U-25 pacer in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiraeth View Post
    Hasan Ali further reinforcing claims that he is indeed the best U-25 pacer in Asia.
    Hasan Ali averages 26 and 20 in ODIs and T20s respectively.

    The best bowler averages 16 in ODIs and 14.5 in T20s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Hasan Ali averages 26 and 20 in ODIs and T20s respectively.

    The best bowler averages 16 in ODIs and 14.5 in T20s
    Let's see who performs better in Champions Trophy... Then we will know for sure... I think Mustafizur will come ahead......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Hasan Ali averages 26 and 20 in ODIs and T20s respectively.

    The best bowler averages 16 in ODIs and 14.5 in T20s
    I know you're on the Fizz hype train, but he hasn't played full series against Eng. in UK and Aus. in Aus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I know you're on the Fizz hype train, but he hasn't played full series against Eng. in UK and Aus. in Aus.
    He can only perform against the opposition he has been pitted against

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    He can only perform against the opposition he has been pitted against
    That's true; But you can't compare Fizz's 16 average to Hasan's 26 average.


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    There is no such thing as a world class BD or India fast bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    That's true; But you can't compare Fizz's 16 average to Hasan's 26 average.
    That's true. Fizz's average will shoot up over the years but I still feel he can average around 25 for a good period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    There is no such thing as a world class BD or India fast bowler.
    Yet both India and Bangladesh's fast bowling performance in recent years have been better than their other Asian counterparts including Afghanistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Yet both India and Bangladesh's fast bowling performance in recent years have been better than their other Asian counterparts including Afghanistan
    Naah. "Tire around waist Malinga" is better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Yet both India and Bangladesh's fast bowling performance in recent years have been better than their other Asian counterparts including Afghanistan
    in last 2 years no single asian bowler was in top 4 wicket taker from asia

    wahab raiz is only bowler who was 4th highest taker in 2015

    while bumrah was only asian bowler with 18 on the list in 2016 most wicket

    currently in 2017 hasan is 2nd highest wicket taker so far

    i think overall year performance shows which side have decent bowler
    Last edited by saeed5646; 19th May 2017 at 17:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    in last 2 years no single asian bowler was in top 4 wicket taker from asia

    wahab raiz is only bowler who was 4th highest taker in 2015

    while bumrah was only asian bowler with 18 on the list in 2016 most wicket

    currently in 2017 hasan is 2nd highest wicket taker so far

    i think overall year performance shows which side have decent bowler
    If i am not mistaken I saw a statistic where post world cup Bangladesh had one of best bowling averages in ODIs. Taskin Fizz and Mash have been brilliant since the world cup so I am not surprised.

    And mind you in this period we played only 4 ODIs against weaker nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    If i am not mistaken I saw a statistic where post world cup Bangladesh had one of best bowling averages in ODIs. Taskin Fizz and Mash have been brilliant since the world cup so I am not surprised.

    And mind you in this period we played only 4 ODIs against weaker nations.
    you should post that statistics

    i was answering to your claim about better bowling unit than pak though i like fizz and he ncan be

    superstar if he improves his fitness and perform well in CT

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    you should post that statistics

    i was answering to your claim about better bowling unit than pak though i like fizz and he ncan be

    superstar if he improves his fitness and perform well in CT
    My PC's wifi adapter has been damaged so I post from phone only. As you can see lately I don't engage in discussions.

    You might want to check the stats for yourself tho and perhaps share it.

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    Bum bum bumrah !!!!

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    Hasan Ali with 21 votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Hasan Ali with 21 votes.
    q bhai

    what happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    q bhai

    what happen
    Ideally, the voting distribution should have been 80-10-10 in Fizz's favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak_Fan View Post
    Ideally, the voting distribution should have been 80-10-10 in Fizz's favor.
    fizz needs to play regular cricket and perform well in CT than he can take lead so far both are same l

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    I hope Bumrah gets demolished in CT.

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    Hasan Bodman Ali levels above all these dibbly dobblers.


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