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21st March 2017, 04:10 #81
After the end of 4th test in Australia, Ashwin had played 24 tests and averaged 30.67.
21st March 2017, 04:15 #82
21st March 2017, 04:37 #83
What does India being a better test team than Pakistan has to do with this thread? Who is denying that? If team A is better than team B, then does it mean that every member of team A is better than team B?
Pakistan has beaten England in England while England has not won single test outside home against Pakistan since 2000, despite playing 3 full series. So no matter, how you many excuses you come up with, Pakistan beat England fair and square in their own backyard with UAE Khan and overweight Yasir Shah.
21st March 2017, 04:38 #84
21st March 2017, 04:41 #85
21st March 2017, 05:06 #86
Time will continue to shatter all myths. A reckoning is approaching India later this year: A resurgent South Africa, still aching from being screwed in 2015 and looking to get back to the top. We'll see how the Indian Ponting, Bowling Bradman,"Jinks" and the 2 Fast 2 Furious duo of Umesh and Ishant like the safari.
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
21st March 2017, 09:35 #87Tape Ball Regular
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There's a lot of arguments on here . .
My two cents:
1.) Anything who thinks Yasir Shah or Ashwin for that matter are mediocre/not good (whatever word you want to use) is just plain and simple - unfair! They are both absolutely brilliant bowlers who have won many many matches for their respective countries . .
2.) For anyone who thinks someone like a Shadab will out perform Yasir in Tests again clearly needs to understand Test cricket better . . Bowlers who rely on variations primarily to succeed are not successful in test cricket!! Mystery, trickery are important weapons in LOI . . for test cricket, you need to have a great stock ball which you can deliver ball after ball at the same spot consistently . . Ashwin is one of the best examples of this when he tried way too many tricks in the beginning of his career from his action, to the carrom ball, to other tricks . . and then HE STOPPED! He developed this beautiful conventional off spinner with loop, drift, revs, landing them perfectly and he started seeing results . . and it's the same with Yasir Shah . . yes, Yasir doesn't have the best variations but he does have a very very good stock ball which has made him so successful . .
3.) For anyone even thinking labeling Yasir Shah as mediocre is absolutely ridiculous . . The guy just became 2nd fastest to 100 wickets in the HISTORY of test cricket . . Guys!! Mediocre bowlers don't do that!! this is 130+ years of cricket we are talking about . . i dont care where he has played . . it is an unbelievable accomplishment! Please be fair in your criticism . . and then you'd argue that most of his wickets are in Asia . . yes they are! however, by that same logic . . over 80% of Ashwin's wickets are in Asia
4.) Let's look deeper into Ashwin's numbers . .
a.) Ashwin has 75% of wickets in INdia (204/271)
b.) Ashwin has 85% of wickets in Asia (230/271)
c.) Out of Ashwin's remaining 41 wickets, 17 are against WI in 4 test matches
d.) The remaining 24 wickets have come in 9 test matches in Aus, Eng and SA
e.) Conclusion: Ashwin has won India many games in Asia and he won them games in the Windies
5.) Yasir Shah has won many a games for Pakistan in Asia and Yasir Shah won 2 games for you in England . . the only 2 that Pakistan won in England!
6.) Ashwin has visited Australia 2 times . . the second time he visited, he was markedly better than the first . . anyone gonna refute that?! Every cricketer goes through a serious learning . . Historically, Australia has been one of the toughest places to visit for any spin bowler . .
7.) Yes, granted Yasir Shah was not good in Australia and he will be the first to admit that . . however, this was his first tour there . . it takes time . . learning is a process . . no one can continue taking 100 wickets in 16 test matches . . the guy is a gem!
Overall, please learn to respect . . especially respect those who have won you many matches . . there is no bowler ever who has dominated every match/series that he has played . . or batsman for that matter . . Yasir has done A LOT for him to claim one of the best in the world status . . one series DOES NOT change that . .
Both Ashwin and Yasir are class bowlers in test match cricket!! Ashwin isn't having the best series against australia right now . . doens't make him bad! although im sure many of the same people would be saying . . oh look! he isn't doing well in india now . . so he sucks! thats just terribly unfair!
21st March 2017, 09:46 #88Tape Ball Regular
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8.) Please measure cricketers in the percentage of matches that they've had an impact at and won games for their countries . . Yasir Shah has had a major major impact in 80% of matches that he has played for his country and perhaps even won most of them single handedly . . similarly, Ravi Ashwin has had a major impact on most of the matches that he has played and won games for his country . . that alone makes them both absolutely wonderful cricketers . .
9.) Those commenting on Yasir Shah and his fitness . . you're just being petty . . personal prejudice clouds objectivity . . he is one of the most agile fielders in the team if not the most agile . . he is one of the best fielders if not the best . . he is one of the fittest . . . because we're comparing him to ashwin in this thread . . there is no comparison on their ability as a fielder . . yasir shah is miles ahead . .