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    The rise and fall of Mohammad Irfan




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    There really was no rise and there really is no fall. He will be back at psl 3. Thats his level.

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    Shouldn't be selected for international cricket

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    A great future when he started and we at PakPassion are proud to have played a role in highlighting him to Aaqib but then upto Irfan to take this forward...or not.


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    It is disappointing to lose such a talented individual to fixing/malpractices.

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    A slight setback, but not a fall.

    Its sad that his reputation would be affected only for a crime that every player has done over the years. Not being bothered to report an approach. But then again an example was suppose to be made.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    A slight setback, but not a fall.

    Its sad that his reputation would be affected only for a crime that every player has done over the years. Not being bothered to report an approach. But then again an example was suppose to be made.
    None of this is really true. Any player tribunal is well within rights to ask 'did you not report it, because you wanted to do it at some stage later'

    The most innocent explanation is that he is a special kind of stupid despite going through so many anti corruption education measures.
    So, as a special kind of stupid, six months seems about right. Followed by no national selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    I was not aware he got an IPL contract when Pakistani players were banned.

    Is that correct @MenInG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msb314 View Post
    I was not aware he got an IPL contract when Pakistani players were banned.

    Is that correct @MenInG?
    Correct


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    The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

    I think Irfan's international career is over


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    Could someone tell me how the response was from most PP'ers at the time Irfan was spotted?
    Did everyone go on board of the hype Train?

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    He wasn't expected to play Internationals again, he will be back for the PSL 3 so it's no loss for the big man.


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    Doing well for South Punjab - taken 2/12 in 3 overs


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    Problem was at his height he started too late and didnt have the nutrition and facilities to work on his strength and conditioning.

    If pakistan had a proper system which is similar to the nba system in america where they can identify a talent at a young age and work on him to get the best out of his talent.

    It was obvious to any tom, dick and harry that he would eventually break down as his body couldnt handle the rigourous international schedule and the amount of energy one puts forth when playing for your country.

    It was only a matter of time when this would happen. Playing him in test cricket was the most absurd decision made by the pct management. And it back fired hard.

    Bascially ending his career.

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    [REPORTS] Mohammad Irfan Sr. set for comeback to T20 squad

    News reports showing that Pakistan has opted for experience in both squads with irfan, wahab and amir leading the bowling attack for the t20 format. Whilst, Kamran Akmal is under consideration for the wk spot.

    For tests, imran khan sr, rahat ali, abbas, shaheen and musa are there.

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    He’s better than both Amir and Wahab.

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    You mean the lambu who was finished 4 years ago? How old is he now and can he even walk without getting injured?

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    Rubbish bowler who should never play again for Pakistan. Poor fitness and cannot hold a bat to save his life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You mean the lambu who was finished 4 years ago? How old is he now and can he even walk without getting injured?
    Surely you are kidding me, he is only 37 years old and still has about 5-6 years left in him. Misbah has recieved positive feedback from.his domestic coaches that he has been able to walk from the bench to the bowling crease without assistance.

    Which tells the team management that Irfan is capable of being lethal on the bouncy Aussie pitches and leading Pak to a world t20 title next year.

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    Please donít let this happen for the sake of Pakistan cricket. Iíve invested so much time watching this team hoping one day their might be change. If these TTFís come back to the team than get ready for the biggest humiliation in PCT history. Itís so disappointing seeing India giving youngsters chances left right and centre while we keep in rinse and repeating the same mistakes with the same useless players.

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    this is going to be fun... pathetic, but fun

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    Misbah is officially the worst thing to happen to Pakistan Cricket

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    Hahahahah is this for real?

    I might just give on watching this team for a while to be honest.

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    When are the squads set to be released.

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    Kamran Akmal is also under consideration??? What on earth is happening??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hussain.r97 View Post
    Misbah is officially the worst thing to happen to Pakistan Cricket
    The people who appointed him. They knew what Misbah was and still selected him

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    Mohammad Irfan
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    Rahat Ali



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    A meltdown here without knowing the details and understanding the context is always fun to read.

    First, it's T20s and 4 overs a match. Second, we don't know how his form and fitness is. Waqar Younis and domestic coaches know that better.

    Third, if Waqar thinks he's the right guy, then he's the right guy to play in the T20s. Wait for that assessment.

    Our keyboard warriors, without knowing any actual details, love to throw a good tantrum and think they're better than Waqar Younis.

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    Waqar during the National t20 comp did say that Irfan is still good, so this report is very likely to be true. I now hate Misbah and wish he was never captain of Pakistan. In fact I blame Salman Butt, if he didn't do that spot fixing, Misbah wouldn't have become captain and we wouldn't be in this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    Waqar during the National t20 comp did say that Irfan is still good, so this report is very likely to be true. I now hate Misbah and wish he was never captain of Pakistan. In fact I blame Salman Butt, if he didn't do that spot fixing, Misbah wouldn't have become captain and we wouldn't be in this mess.
    Waqar did mentioned about Irfan Senior when Naseem Shah was bowling against Balochistan...

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    After the t20 world cup 2016, Pakistan selected a younger side and it worked, they got rid of the TTFs like Irfan, Rahat, Wahab, Akmal, Shehzad. And npow we are going back to them. Why does Misbah have an agenda against young players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    When are the squads set to be released.
    Today at 2.15pm pakistan time.

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    I get the feeling someone is out there making up ridiculous stories to feed to the media almost just to sabotage Misbah. At the same time you never know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    A meltdown here without knowing the details and understanding the context is always fun to read.

    First, it's T20s and 4 overs a match. Second, we don't know how his form and fitness is. Waqar Younis and domestic coaches know that better.

    Third, if Waqar thinks he's the right guy, then he's the right guy to play in the T20s. Wait for that assessment.

    Our keyboard warriors, without knowing any actual details, love to throw a good tantrum and think they're better than Waqar Younis.
    T20I average - 33.60.

    PSL 2019 average - 41.80

    If he gets picked, it's cause he got 2/19 vs. Northern last week. Nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    T20I average - 33.60.

    PSL 2019 average - 41.80

    If he gets picked, it's cause he got 2/19 vs. Northern last week. Nice.
    SOme people are just blind supporters of Misbah. They justify literally anything he does. I will see what he announces tonight. If it's good then he must be praised, but if he brings back the TTFs there should actually be a protest.

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    This will be more backward steps.

    First umar akmal and shehzad, now this? I am super disappointed if this news is true.

    Looks like we will be missing the inzi and Mickey combo for the next couple of years.

    You never know what you have until it's gone.

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    Will it be possible after a super flop show in Australia Mani will get rid of Wasim, misbah and Waqar plus resign himself for being shame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    SOme people are just blind supporters of Misbah. They justify literally anything he does. I will see what he announces tonight. If it's good then he must be praised, but if he brings back the TTFs there should actually be a protest.
    Misbah's fans wants to see masters league, because the league is not very popular/consistent they want to turn Pakistan team to a Veteran team. Win or Loss doesn't matter as long their favorites oldies are there they are happy.
    I highly doubt even die hard Indian fans also want to see Pakistan that way because no point to play against a team when the results are there even before the match start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    Will it be possible after a super flop show in Australia Mani will get rid of Wasim, misbah and Waqar plus resign himself for being shame?
    I really hope so. Misbah is on a mission to wreck our cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    SOme people are just blind supporters of Misbah. They justify literally anything he does. I will see what he announces tonight. If it's good then he must be praised, but if he brings back the TTFs there should actually be a protest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    Misbah's fans wants to see masters league, because the league is not very popular/consistent they want to turn Pakistan team to a Veteran team. Win or Loss doesn't matter as long their favorites oldies are there they are happy.
    I highly doubt even die hard Indian fans also want to see Pakistan that way because no point to play against a team when the results are there even before the match start.
    All the TTFs since Misbah's hiring...



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    The bounce he generates could be very helpful in Australia.

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    Amazing choice Could backfire in a big way or may be an inspiration choice ....Irfan is back in the Pakistan squad for T20Is


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    Misbah on Irfan's comeback...

    “For the T20Is, Mohammad Irfan has been rewarded for the form he has shown recently. Based on horses for courses and his form, the Australian conditions will present Irfan with the opportunity to excel. This selection has also been made while looking at next year’s ICC T20 World Cup, which will be played in Australia. If we can successfully manage his workload, then he can be a valuable asset for us in next global event.


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    One thing youíve got to admire the PCB for is that they donít discriminate when it comes to age - very progressive.

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    His fitness is a worry.

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    Selection of Irfan given that the T20 WC will be in Australia is wise

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    I do not know of his current bowling form, but his inclusion in the playing 11 will have an immediate impact on fielding. One cannot hide a fielder in modern limited overs cricket.

    Perhaps his fitness has improved!

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    Form looks decent

    1/11 in 2 overs in today's game vs Sindh


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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbread View Post
    I do not know of his current bowling form, but his inclusion in the playing 11 will have an immediate impact on fielding. One cannot hide a fielder in modern limited overs cricket.

    Perhaps his fitness has improved!
    His fielding is not as bad as it looks. He has taken some good catches in the National T-20 tournament. His ground fielding looks ungamely but its not as bad as it looks

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    Can we also recall Rahat, I mean, all others are back now in one team or the other: Wahab, Imran Khan, Irfan...what a scary view will that be, unfortunately for Pak supporters and not the other side

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    Another of those scenarios where players are played, dropped, played, dropped and then brought back when there is a change of coach.

    Is he fit enough? Especially given this whole focus on fitness levels.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Another of those scenarios where players are played, dropped, played, dropped and then brought back when there is a change of coach.

    Is he fit enough? Especially given this whole focus on fitness levels.
    4 overs should be manageable. Its a horses for courses situation. If he is fit and in good form, he will be very handy in Australia keeping the T20 WC in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Another of those scenarios where players are played, dropped, played, dropped and then brought back when there is a change of coach.

    Is he fit enough? Especially given this whole focus on fitness levels.
    And Yes, a lot of careers got destroyed due to Mickey Arthur's likes and dislikes. Imran Khan Sr is a prime example, Arthur discarded him just on the basis that he was unhappy with his basis completely ignoring the fact his role is of a work horse in test cricket and also IK Sr had decent stats in the test matches he played.

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    The rise, fall... And rise again...?


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    That being said, I am not completely against his selection. He is still good enough for 4 overs, he was pretty decent in 2015 too IIRC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    And Yes, a lot of careers got destroyed due to Mickey Arthur's likes and dislikes. Imran Khan Sr is a prime example, Arthur discarded him just on the basis that he was unhappy with his basis completely ignoring the fact his role is of a work horse in test cricket and also IK Sr had decent stats in the test matches he played.
    Fitness of Imran khan is below far we have seen enough of him. vey poor selection.

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    Irfan and Wahab. Is this 2012 again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Fitness of Imran khan is below far we have seen enough of him. vey poor selection.
    What are you on about? Imran Khan Sr is responsible for our third test victory against Sri Lanka in 2015 where he got a 5 wicket haul with the second new ball and was bowling at 136-138 km/hr whereas the likes of Rahat Ali and Ehsan Adil had slowed down in their subsequent spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    What are you on about? Imran Khan Sr is responsible for our third test victory against Sri Lanka in 2015 where he got a 5 wicket haul with the second new ball and was bowling at 136-138 km/hr whereas the likes of Rahat Ali and Ehsan Adil had slowed down in their subsequent spells.
    Have seen enough of him. There is a hell of difference in 2015 and 2019 Imran , though he was operating with 125kph in 2016 too

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    Will tell you when this tour ends. plus he is no way 32 years old.

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    What rise? He was always an average bowler to begin with. Some good performances does not make him world class or anything like that.


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    Time for Irfan to rise to his potential and maybe just show us his best in T20s before he signs off! He could be an asset come the WC

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    looking good this t20 tournament already took a wicket in todays match


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