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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlickedOffHips View Post
    most indian pacers giving bowling a bad name. that said, you only need 5-6 good ones to do the job at the International level, which they have.

    obviously whats not helped them in this ipl so far has been the flat tracks, fast outfields/small boundaries, and no swing on offer.
    IPL pitches are death beds for fast Bowlers. No one gets spared. Its a purely batsman tournament with some help for spinners.

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    Also, the main stays of Indian bowling these days (Shami/Yadav) are not playing.

    Shami/Yadav/BK/Bumrah/Ishant. These are the fast bowlers India relies on.

    Nehra(Too old), Dinda, Vinay, Anikit are there to fill the spots.

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    Brilliant innings from Smith. Glad we won the game today. Still not confident about our batting, as long as get the runs Tahir and Zampa will give us a chance of winning games.

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    Bloody hell missed the last 4 hours of the game ! Pretty much went down to the wire but Smith and Dhoni are way too clutch to let it go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    That should tell you something about a league if a guy like Nehra is on top.
    What it does tell is that experience and match sense counts. A guy like Nehra controlled 2011 WC against Pakistan and I'm not even using Munaf patel as an example yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    That should tell you something about a league if a guy like Nehra is on top.
    Same Nehra also who bowled the last over against Pak needing 9 runs to win and 3 wickets in hand and he only gave 4 runs away and won the match for India by 5 runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    What it does tell is that experience and match sense counts. A guy like Nehra controlled 2011 WC against Pakistan and I'm not even using Munaf patel as an example yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    Same Nehra also who bowled the last over against Pak needing 9 runs to win and 3 wickets in hand and he only gave 4 runs away and won the match for India by 5 runs
    Stop bringing up past performances. This thread is about IPL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Stop bringing up past performances. This thread is about IPL.
    Well Nehra has only played 1 match this IPL and when you were talking about the quality of his bowling I'm sure you were talking based on his past performances not just one game this IPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Brilliant innings from Smith. Glad we won the game today. Still not confident about our batting, as long as get the runs Tahir and Zampa will give us a chance of winning games.
    Malinga would have destroyed Smith and Daada Dhoni at the end. Lucky he wasn't playing today.

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    Saw the highlights , Southee dropped the match off Bumrah , wasn't too hard of a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialisttailender View Post
    Malinga would have destroyed Smith and Daada Dhoni at the end. Lucky he wasn't playing today.
    Too much credit to Malinga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Stop bringing up past performances. This thread is about IPL.
    Op is trying to say that Nehra is better now. If you could not handle him when he was bad how can you handle him now.
    You are living in the past. Currently our pace is much superior to yours. We dont rely on our spinneres to take wickets unlike you guys.

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    When is this thing starting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    When is this thing starting?
    Next week bro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Next week bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Very hard to tell.
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    You are trying too hard.
    Just realized it has already started. honest mistake really. Haven't been able to keep up with cricket these past few days.

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    IPL 2017 | Day 3 | 7th April | Rajkot | Match Thread

    Gujarat butt heads with Kolkata tonight!

    Who're you gunning for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Gujarat butt heads with Kolkata tonight!

    Who're you gunning for?
    Cant watch it because of school, but I hope KKR will win because of Boult and Narine

    Gujrat is really batting heavy and getting some of the top order bats out cheaply will make things easier for KKR.

    But you never know we might be seeing a McCullum blitz today

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    Game underway....

    Gujarat Lions 52/1 (6/20 ov)
    Kolkata Knight Riders
    Kolkata Knight Riders won the toss and elected to field


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    Suresh Raina and Dinesh Karthik both trying to make a statement for selection.

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    Dinesh Karthik 47 runs in 25 balls

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    Total 183/4 in 20 overs



    Raina 68 runs in 51 balls

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    Kuldeep Yadav = 2 wickets, 25 runs in 4 overs.

    Excellent bowling by Kuldeep

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    Gambhir justifying his 15 crore salary to Shah Rukh, 40 runs in 23 balls till now

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    Kkr kkr

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    Lynn is a beast

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    Chris Lynn 50 runs in 19 balls till now

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    Chris Lynn is a match winner. Should be persisted with

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    Didn't get to see the match, Gujarat got wrecked. That bowling lineup is horrendous. I don't see them winning a single game with that. KKR is beasting. They still had pathan and uthappa to come

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    IPL 2017 | Day 4 | 8th April | Indore & Bengaluru | Matches Thread

    Kings XI v Supergiant (16:00 local | 10:30 GMT | 06:30 EDT | 05:30 CDT | 03:30 PDT).

    RCB v Daredevils (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT).


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    Without Abd and Kohli RCB matches are no fun to watch unless Gayle goes berserk.


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    When will AB and Kohli return?

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    No Rahul either! Rahul was expected to excel further this season (especially after a good test series against Australia! Though I know T20 is different, but I am talking about maturity levels). Injuries can't be helped (as in case of Kohli), but Rahul has to work on his fitness too. He is also a weaker fielder for today's fielding standards among youth! That with always put additional pressure on himself (that would mean that he should almost have the impact of someone like Sehwag to be selected in all 3 formats! Actually Sehwag was a good catcher even if he was slow in field)

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    Tahir is a good bowler

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    Punjab still in there with a chance , need to play smart cricket here

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    Punjab is favorites,

    Maxwell, Miller, Stonis still to come. I don't know why Patel was send before these three hitters.

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    Tahir is bowling well here , forcing the required rate to go go up

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    And Tahir was not picked in auctions.

    As I say, these IPL owners are a funny bunch.

    And Pune has Ashok Dinda and Dan Christian...lol good luck for the tournament.


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    66 / 2

    9 overs

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    Bhatia in

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    patel gets that away

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    Punjab has advantage here with wickets in hand

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    amla goes

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    Maxwell comes

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    77 from 51 balls , Punjab chase has been derailed with two quick wickets

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    maxi

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    Punjab needs one cameo from this two .

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    Stonis still to come

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    Boundary by Maxwell

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    54 from 38 balls.

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    Miller hammers that one.

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    Captaincy for Maxwell is working as intended. A clear unambiguous thumbs up for his approach and he's producing the results.

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    Maxwell owns Tahir !

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    Punes bowling unit is very ordinary

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    Captaincy for Maxwell is working as intended. A clear unambiguous thumbs up for his approach and he's producing the results.
    He sent other bats up the order which meant him and Miller get to face very less deliveries.

    That move is so opposite to his batting style.


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    19 from 18 balls required

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    Is Zampa not playing ?

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    Smith is gonna give the danda to dinda

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    Is Zampa not playing ?
    Dropped for Dan Christian.

    Faf not playing either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    Smith is gonna give the danda to dinda
    Dinda may like it cos he is used to it for the last 9 years of IPL.


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    Dinda bowling tight

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    What a shot that was

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    Looks like Miller gave the danda to Dinda.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Dropped for Dan Christian.

    Faf not playing either.
    How can you drop Zampa ? What a mess

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    So far I am so impressed with overall standard at display. Everyshot is effort and fielding overall is pretty good. I understand you cant drop catches but that happens.

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    Miller has sealed the game now

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    How can you drop Zampa ? What a mess
    Why are you surprised?

    Pune Supergiants is an idiotic name, team with an idiotic owner.

    Sorry...Pune Supergiant.

    They changed the name from giants to giant cos they felt everyone in the team was a giant so it would make sense to call it that (true story).



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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Why are you surprised?

    Pune Supergiants is an idiotic name, team with an idiotic owner.

    Sorry...Pune Supergiant.

    They changed the name from giants to giant cos they felt everyone in the team was a giant so it would make sense to call it that (true story).

    I'm sure the cricketing brains did not choose the name but they surely do choose the team. With Smith at the helm and Dhoni always backing younguns - I thought they would defintely go through Tahir and Zampa all along. They were 20-30 runs short anyways , Punjab doesnt have an impressive bowling

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    Kings XI Punjab won by 6 wickets (with 6 balls remaining)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    I'm sure the cricketing brains did not choose the name but they surely do choose the team. With Smith at the helm and Dhoni always backing younguns - I thought they would defintely go through Tahir and Zampa all along. They were 20-30 runs short anyways , Punjab doesnt have an impressive bowling
    The cricketing brains bought Dinda, Dan Christian.

    They went all out for Stokes and spent their budget in 10 mins in auction when it was clear Pune doesn't have a quality pacer (Indian or foreign).

    The cricketing brains are idiots too.

    And Smith is a pathetic captain from what I saw in World T20.

    Dhoni is old too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    The cricketing brains bought Dinda, Dan Christian.

    They went all out for Stokes and spent their budget in 10 mins in auction when it was clear Pune doesn't have a quality pacer (Indian or foreign).

    The cricketing brains are idiots too.

    And Smith is a pathetic captain from what I saw in World T20.

    Dhoni is old too.
    Think its because its only for one season so they wanted to go out with a bang and have lot of stars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    The cricketing brains bought Dinda, Dan Christian.

    They went all out for Stokes and spent their budget in 10 mins in auction when it was clear Pune doesn't have a quality pacer (Indian or foreign).

    The cricketing brains are idiots too.

    And Smith is a pathetic captain from what I saw in World T20.

    Dhoni is old too.
    Being old doesn't necessarily mean you lose your wits. Some of the older cricketing brains show more in the think tank and tbf Dhoni isn't old.

    At the end of the day , it's the franchise owners calls - management /captain can suggest but money is being spent by the Owners and they have their own advisors and stats people who crunch the numbers. Pune doesn't have a bad team - they just need the right playing 11

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    Delhi team looks beasting . They have the most balanced combination - Zahir , Billings , Carlos B , Mishra , Duminy , Rabada and Nair. They could be quite good

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    Cummins is one handsome guy.


    Tazimi Sirdar

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    What a catch from Samson!


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    Some of the cheerleaders are quite cute !

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleaf27 View Post
    Being old doesn't necessarily mean you lose your wits. Some of the older cricketing brains show more in the think tank and tbf Dhoni isn't old.

    At the end of the day , it's the franchise owners calls - management /captain can suggest but money is being spent by the Owners and they have their own advisors and stats people who crunch the numbers. Pune doesn't have a bad team - they just need the right playing 11
    Last year of CSK and last year in Pune...Dhoni's captaincy was bizarre and stupid. CSK got to finals inspite of Dhoni's captaincy a point which I kept mentioning during the IPL that time. Then next year, same happened but since Pune team was crap, it got 2nd last place.

    After that Dhoni's decision making looked more improved in recent times.

    Number crunching and analysts are over-rated.

    There are many stat analysts in cricket forums too. But many of their analysis leaves a lot to be desired.

    Not saying the cricketing team of IPL teams are all crap but they get over-rated just cos they are "experts".
    Last edited by sensible-indian-fan; 8th April 2017 at 15:28.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Why are you surprised?

    Pune Supergiants is an idiotic name, team with an idiotic owner.

    Sorry...Pune Supergiant.

    They changed the name from giants to giant cos they felt everyone in the team was a giant so it would make sense to call it that (true story).

    Doesn't the owner look like Mahat the tamil actor ? You know the mokka Premji's side piece from Mankatha ?

    It makes sense to rename the team to Supergiant, it gives more powerful feeling when you say it. You can't have many Supergiants as the the existence of many supergiants devalue the meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Last year of CSK and last year in Pune...Dhoni's captaincy was bizarre and stupid. CSK got to finals inspite of Dhoni's captaincy a point which I kept mentioning during the IPL that time. Then next year, same happened but since Pune team was crap, it got 2nd last place.

    After that Dhoni's decision making looked more improved in recent times.

    Number crunching and analysts are over-rated.

    There are many stat analysts in cricket forums too. But many of their analysis leaves a lot to be desired.

    Not saying the cricketing team of IPL teams are all crap but they get over-rated just cos they are "experts".
    In any league , the owners and management staff - who actually call the shots are often surrounded by Analysts and Statiscians - that'd their job - the ROI for a player, his previous stats etc all make a difference. Owners do this as a business deal and I'm sure each team owner has their MBA's and Math stats leading guys who help devise a plan. Captain's and coach can suggest names but not more than that

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    Jadhav is so good.

    Surprised that he didn't debut for India in his 20s.


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    Delhi should get this total.

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