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  1. #321
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    Hafeez has booked his ticket for CT...This sluggish wicket and low total is his kind of game...Problem is tournaments are not played on such wicket, there you need better player of pace, which most of these seniors are not, we will be struggling to post or chase 300, where par score would be 320, opposition (ENG/AUS/NZ/SA) will play four seamers and our middle order (Hafeez, Malik, Sarfi) would be dud against them, we will not be able to compete, same story as before...


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    Have always hated Malik but he has won me over


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    free hit coming,

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    Don't want to admit it, but when Hafeez plays well he looks incredibly classy.

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    Six

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    sixxxxxxx, Hafeez at his best

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    6!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan Cheema View Post
    is Shoaib Malik best rotator in Pakistan?
    Him and Sarf are the best in the country. And Sarf is the best IMO of the two because he can bat at 90+ SR w/o need to hit boundaries constantly.

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    If Hafeez can do it - why does he not? I don't think its as much about ability as it is about confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Don't want to admit it, but when Hafeez plays well he looks incredibly classy.
    loving it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Bad day for @MMHS
    I must say, he is playing exceptionally well. Luck was in his side as well - got away with a French cut, then with DRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super hitter View Post
    The team is filled up of 10 tendulkars and Malik is the liability who needs to be removed, oh I just got it!
    They all need to go: Malik, hafeez, shehzad, Akmal. I have been fairly consistent about that.

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    4 more.

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    That shot is a perfect no. 6 hit

    He is very methodical and precise

    Would be an excellent finisher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Bad day for @MMHS
    and bad day for pak cricket...many darkest days ahead in CT>>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Don't want to admit it, but when Hafeez plays well he looks incredibly classy.
    He has been today, producing some mouth awing boundaries from time to time, but Malik has been terrible.


    If life on earth is temporary...what make you think that your problems are permanent?

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    M Hafeez 64 of 64 playing at a strike rate of 100.

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    Most bashed player will be man of the series, what an irony

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    Quote Originally Posted by super hitter View Post
    He has been today, producing some mouth awing boundaries from time to time, but Malik has been terrible.
    disagree brother, Malik is rotating strike, last five overs malik played 12 balls and let hafeez play 18. Sensible batting not terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    and bad day for pak cricket...many darkest days ahead in CT>>>
    Let's worry about Akmal and Shezhad before turning our attentions to the two guys who are actually batting well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I must say, he is playing exceptionally well. Luck was in his side as well - got away with a French cut, then with DRS.
    as u said previously he looks classy when in his own but it occurs againsibber here..ng a dead rus in 1st odi we would have been playt the weaker sides and too rarely..if it was not his selfish inning

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    Hafeez will always win about twice as much as MoM awards as the next guy in the team. That however does not mean anything when it comes to serious cricket.

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    Class, Hafeez is all class today

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    Another 4.

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    Hafeez cemented his place for champions trophy

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    so @Dios is go hiding after good recovery by pak lol expected

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    The wide is gappening


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hafeez will always win about twice as much as MoM awards as the next guy in the team. That however does not mean anything when it comes to serious cricket.
    what you call serios cricket ?

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    The wide is gapening

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    lol, hafeez should have been out on 40, was plumb.

    Don't think he's worth it for CT


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    WI reviews.

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    review and its close

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    They all need to go: Malik, hafeez, shehzad, Akmal. I have been fairly consistent about that.
    No replacements actually, even if you pick up the best youngsters, still the lack of experience is a major problem which will make our team go through a huge crisis...As you've seen in the past few years, a lot of times we've flopped against the minnows and the seniors are the ones who still manage a win but then we have to call them minnows.

    Even Babar's performance against Australia was below average


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Don't want to admit it, but when Hafeez plays well he looks incredibly classy.
    I think everyone agrees with that. Shouldn't be in the team though


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    Pak easily winning it on the bat of two oldies


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    Umps call

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    thank god, missing

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    i mean his selfish inning sosts us 1st odi..and his fluency comes against weaker sides and too rarely..but treat to watch when on..

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    Wasn't there edge on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan Cheema View Post
    what you call serios cricket ?
    The type of cricket Hafeez has failed at for 17 years and counting.

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    Not Out.

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    WI getting robbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nil Dhumrojal View Post
    Pak easily winning it on the bat of two oldies
    Oldies?

    These guys can still play for another decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super hitter View Post
    No replacements actually, even if you pick up the best youngsters, still the lack of experience is a major problem which will make our team go through a huge crisis...As you've seen in the past few years, a lot of times we've flopped against the minnows and the seniors are the ones who still manage a win but then we have to call them minnows.

    Even Babar's performance against Australia was below average
    Boss, these guys have lost us every trophy out there. A decade of mediocrity when playing the big moments and the big boys. I would rather lose with new talent.

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    Actually we need to appreciate Hafeez and Malik here.
    It really is difficult batting here.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Holder back into the attack.

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    M Hafeez into the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The type of cricket Hafeez has failed at for 17 years and counting.
    That's a tad harsh.
    He's arguably our second best T20 captain..
    Played some very good knocks in England (2010) and of course in the subcontinent..

    Been pathetic over the last twelve months and I think he should have been dropped permanently.. But now that he's been picked I think he deserves a final hourrah at the CT..
    Given his history pre 2015, I'd say he deserves it more then Akmal and Shezhad..

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    Wel, I wanted four players out, but we will lose 2 players only. I should be happy with that.

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    Might upset a few people, but Malik has been an upgrade on Misbah at the #5 position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Oldies?

    These guys can still play for another decade.
    Agree


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    I think, MoHa will go back to opening in CT. They'll bring Umar & Azhar, with Azhar-MoHa opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Let's worry about Akmal and Shezhad before turning our attentions to the two guys who are actually batting well.
    temporory happiness will cosr us more..but well playedtoday THE manipulator..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Boss, these guys have lost us every trophy out there. A decade of mediocrity when playing the big moments and the big boys. I would rather lose with new talent.
    And the youngsters did well? Nope!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Wel, I wanted four players out, but we will lose 2 players only. I should be happy with that.
    I'd be glad if it's just one. Saj bhai mentioned in the other thread that Inzi is very tight with Kami and is hugely impressed with him, don't expect him to be dropped. Shehzad might be the only one that gets the chop. Even he might be in the squad, but may not feature in the playing eleven.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Might upset a few people, but Malik has been an upgrade on Misbah at the #5 position.
    Well Misbah playing any ODI cricket after 2011 was nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    temporory happiness will cosr us more..but well playedtoday THE manipulator..
    Don't you mean, Doctor Evil, The Manipulator?!?!

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    permaul who brought Pakistan back into this game is back

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    Bad day for @Nil Dhumrojal and @Dios who were so happy after the first ODI


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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    That's a tad harsh.
    He's arguably our second best T20 captain..
    Played some very good knocks in England (2010) and of course in the subcontinent..

    Been pathetic over the last twelve months and I think he should have been dropped permanently.. But now that he's been picked I think he deserves a final hourrah at the CT..
    Given his history pre 2015, I'd say he deserves it more then Akmal and Shezhad..
    Complete failure from 2003-2009, won quite a few matches vs Zimbabwe in 2011, failed at the World Cup, had a 3 match purple patch in T20Is vs India and SA, failed in the CT, failed in multiple World T20s with the bat, had a good patch vs England in 2015, did well vs NZ in 2016, failed in the England Test series. That is pretty much his career. Can't take his bowling seriously because he is a chucker, so I am ignoring his value as an all-rounder.

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    124/3 in 25.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I'd be glad if it's just one. Saj bhai mentioned in the other thread that Inzi is very tight with Kami and is hugely impressed with him, don't expect him to be dropped. Shehzad might be the only one that gets the chop. Even he might be in the squad, but may not feature in the playing eleven.
    If getting rid of Akmal meant getting rid of Hafeez too, I would take it!! Hell they can drop Malik too if it means no more Akmal

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    Quote Originally Posted by super hitter View Post
    And the youngsters did well? Nope!
    If we can give new talent the kind of free rides we gave to Afridi, Malik, and hafeez they will be world beaters.

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    Malik sweeps it again for 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I think, MoHa will go back to opening in CT. They'll bring Umar & Azhar, with Azhar-MoHa opening.
    If Hafeez goes back to opening that might allow us to have Umar akmal at 6.

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    will Hafeez score 150 here? Will Malik let him?

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    holder is on ..interesting to see hafeez now ..

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    just play normally yar. bad balls will come.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Beautiful sweep shots by Malik. He looks miles better batsman than Hafeez.

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    Malik is probably the best spin player outside Test world.

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    Akmal shouldn't be back.

    If MoHa opens he will be exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan Cheema View Post
    will Hafeez score 150 here? Will Malik let him?
    Whats the point of 150?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Complete failure from 2003-2009, won quite a few matches vs Zimbabwe in 2011, failed at the World Cup, had a 3 match purple patch in T20Is vs India and SA, failed in the CT, failed in multiple World T20s with the bat, had a good patch vs England in 2015, did well vs NZ in 2016, failed in the England Test series. That is pretty much his career. Can't take his bowling seriously because he is a chucker, so I am ignoring his value as an all-rounder.
    let these people to livewith their delusions and short term happiness...this guy THE MR manipulator is a joke and well be complete failure ///

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    If we can give new talent the kind of free rides we gave to Afridi, Malik, and hafeez they will be world beaters.
    free rides? they did well under aggressive captains like Inzi. No solid point from both the sides, hence the debate should be diffused though I'll stick to my point


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    96 runs partnership between these two in 17 overs

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    Easy victory now.


    Like an Indian friend once said "We will walk this". Too bad India got walloped on that day, let's hope the result is different for Pakistan today.


    Inzi is the best selector in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Don't want to admit it, but when Hafeez plays well he looks incredibly classy.
    Generally he thrive when wicket is slow and low, trade mark of Misbah Battalion(they have played in UAE for millions of years)...Problem is that does not help winning tournament...Nobody plays LOI cricket on such wickets, Pakistan keep building team on Old and dated platform, these conditions and player are cricket killers...If young players are kept in UAE for a decade, they will all be like Misbah 11, this is not the future we are looking for... We will remain #8/9 team with such policies and players :


    If you want to do things that are certain to succeed, you are doing very obvious thing - E Musk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Complete failure from 2003-2009, won quite a few matches vs Zimbabwe in 2011, failed at the World Cup, had a 3 match purple patch in T20Is vs India and SA, failed in the CT, failed in multiple World T20s with the bat, had a good patch vs England in 2015, did well vs NZ in 2016, failed in the England Test series. That is pretty much his career. Can't take his bowling seriously because he is a chucker, so I am ignoring his value as an all-rounder.
    He was pretty decent between 2010 and late 2014...

    Ok rubbish against Steyn but otherwise quiet decent.. certainly wasn't the worst player for us.

    Let him have the his swan song at the CT

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    Difference between Mian and Hafeez is that the former always knows what he is doing, even when things are not going his way. His mental game is at a different level to Hafeez.

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