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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    Sharjeel tagged along for the free food. He didn't fix and he will be acquitted. My 2 cents.
    More that the PCB has is laying the groundwork to go easy on him and has relayed this to Sharjeel, hence why he hasnt been freaking out in public as much Khalid and his legal team.

    In the long term thouh this will hurt us imo


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    More that the PCB has is laying the groundwork to go easy on him and has relayed this to Sharjeel, hence why he hasnt been freaking out in public as much Khalid and his legal team.

    In the long term thouh this will hurt us imo
    That is what I can see.

    Khalid has been charged with lots of offences, despite not playing.

    It's very simple.

    1.If he's fixed,ban him(5 years or even life ban)
    2.If he has failed to report twice or more, ban him for a year
    3.If he has failed to report once, warn him and fine heavily.

    As far as my knowledge is concerned, he's not returning to the CT even if he's declared innocent.

    Because, the hearing begins in 1st week of May and then carry till 3rd or even last week of May

    In no case he will go to England, without any mactch practice for 4 months.

    Three openers for CT will be

    Kamran
    Shehzad
    Fakhar/Azhar

    I know all will fail.

    The next series after CT, Azhar and Kamran would be dropped as they are aged.
    Fakhar would be sent back to domestics.

    3 openers for next series would be

    Sharjeel(If he hasn't fixed)
    Shehzad
    HAFEEZ

    Sharjeel would be the 1st opener
    HAFEEZ/Shezi to be second

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    That is what I can see.

    Khalid has been charged with lots of offences, despite not playing.

    It's very simple.

    1.If he's fixed,ban him(5 years or even life ban)
    2.If he has failed to report twice or more, ban him for a year
    3.If he has failed to report once, warn him and fine heavily.

    As far as my knowledge is concerned, he's not returning to the CT even if he's declared innocent.

    Because, the hearing begins in 1st week of May and then carry till 3rd or even last week of May

    In no case he will go to England, without any mactch practice for 4 months.

    Three openers for CT will be

    Kamran
    Shehzad
    Fakhar/Azhar

    I know all will fail.

    The next series after CT, Azhar and Kamran would be dropped as they are aged.
    Fakhar would be sent back to domestics.

    3 openers for next series would be

    Sharjeel(If he hasn't fixed)
    Shehzad
    HAFEEZ

    Sharjeel would be the 1st opener
    HAFEEZ/Shezi to be second
    Another thing he has been charged for is trying to get other players into fixing. ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Another thing he has been charged for is trying to get other players into fixing. ****
    Shahzaib is charged with it, not Sharjeel

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    Shahzaib is charged with it, not Sharjeel
    one thing that you are missing is that sharjeel has directly trampled on the ego of najam sethi. no matter if he has fixed or not, he is not playing for pakistan until sethi remains at the helm of affairs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    one thing that you are missing is that sharjeel has directly trampled on the ego of najam sethi. no matter if he has fixed or not, he is not playing for pakistan until sethi remains at the helm of affairs.
    I know, but what I can see is Shahzaib and Khalid would be made scapegoat, with Sharjeel being pardoned.

    Mickey, to Inzi: I need Sharjeel
    Inzi, to Sethi: I need Sharjeel
    Sethi, to the tribunal:I need Sharjeel
    Tribunal's decision: Sharjeelhas not fixed so warned with fine. Khalid and Shahzaib banned.

    This is how things run in PCB
    Last edited by fazleefridi; 19th April 2017 at 09:25.

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    Its more and more likely Sharjeel will be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    Kindly read the post.

    If he has done spot fixing, let alone match fixing, he should be banned for 5 years or even life ban could be justified.

    U cry here, without reading the post.

    Anyways thank u for ur meaningless post
    do you think they do not know they are not supposed to approach bookies? There are witness accounts of him approaching bookies. He knows he is not supposed to do this. Yet you want to give him a fine and let him play again. What message does this send to other fixers? Think more long term about your ideas. Do you want to win a game or two (he certainly is not going to win you a wc or anything.. no Adam Gilchrist here) or do you want a clean team?

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    After CT this should be the line up.

    1.Sharjeel
    2.Farhan (RHB, good at pull, hook and cut. He also has a good game against spin)
    3.Babar
    4.Malik
    5.Sarfraz
    6.Imad
    7.Yamin(can bowl maximum of 5-6 overs)
    8.Shadab
    9.Sohail
    10.Amir
    11.Hassan


    In bowling:

    5 genuine bowlers

    Seam: Amir, Sohail, Hassan
    Spin: Imad, Shadab

    2 extra bowlers

    Seam:Yamin
    Spin: Malik

    In batting:

    Good attacking openers with LH/RH combination

    Shajeel
    Farhan

    Solid no.3, Babar

    Good players of spin and good strike rotators at 4 and 5 : Malik and Sarfraz

    No.6 Who can hit when settled, Imad

    No.7,8,9 and 10 who can hit from word go, Yamin, Shadab, Sohail, Amir

    No.11 who can hold the bat: Hassan

    Good batting depth with Sohail and Amir coming at 9 and 10, with Hassan at 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreePalestine View Post
    do you think they do not know they are not supposed to approach bookies? There are witness accounts of him approaching bookies. He knows he is not supposed to do this. Yet you want to give him a fine and let him play again. What message does this send to other fixers? Think more long term about your ideas. Do you want to win a game or two (he certainly is not going to win you a wc or anything.. no Adam Gilchrist here) or do you want a clean team?

    1.There is a difference between him approaching a bookie and bookies approaching him.

    In his case bookies approached him.

    2.Irfan despite being failed to report twice, banned just for a year (just 6 months if he cooperates with PCB). Whereas Sharjeel failed to report just once. Hence warning and fine might do.

    3. U said, that I am supporting a match fixer
    a. He's not done any match fixing
    b. I said, if he has done even spot fixing, he should be banned for 5 years or even life ban. Never did I support a fixer


    Your statements are quite contradicting. Pls brother, be clear in ur statements.
    Just don't comment for the sake of doing it.
    And again, if u cannot comprehend, I am sorry, I can't help you out

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    Why is everyone so sure Sharjeel will come back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    I know, but what I can see is Shahzaib and Khalid would be made scapegoat, with Sharjeel being pardoned.

    Mickey, to Inzi: I need Sharjeel
    Inzi, to Sethi: I need Sharjeel
    Sethi, to the tribunal:I need Sharjeel
    Tribunal's decision: Sharjeelhas not fixed so warned with fine. Khalid and Shahzaib banned.

    This is how things run in PCB
    i like the team that you have put but i do not think that sahibzada farhan is going to be fast tracked to the main team and i do not think that sharjeel is going to be pardoned by the tribunal. if anything, he is the one who played in the match and it is being reported that he did exactly what the bookies asked him to.

    even pcb has asked nasir jamshed to testify and there are more charges placed against him only yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Why is everyone so sure Sharjeel will come back?
    same question actually.


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    [QUOTE=GoUgandaCranes;9200075]i like the team that you have put but i do not think that sahibzada farhan is going to be fast tracked to the main team and i do not think that sharjeel is going to be pardoned by the tribunal. if anything, he is the one who played in the match and it is being reported that he did exactly what the bookies asked him to.

    even pcb has asked nasir jamshed to testify and there are more charges placed against him only yesterday.

    Bro,let's wait.

    But yeah, if has fixed, ban him for 5 years, or even life ban would be justified.

    There should be no getting away with it.

    Regarding Farhan.

    I know, he wouldn't be fast tracked.

    But he has 2 50's in 2.
    If he gets a 50 and a 100 in remaining 3 matches, and Inzi notices it, who knows he might be selected out of nowhere

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    I urge the posters here to forget about 'Sharjeel the hack' because he isn't coming back anytime soon. Let's hope Kamran can hit a few fours and bash some trundlers on flat pitches so you have a new hack to cheer on. Fakhar Zaman is also another capable hack, from what I hear, but haven't seen him bat personally so can't say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes clearly, you are above all of this. Do I need to remind you the number of times you have brought me up needlessly & compared me to Hawkeye? You may not tag me in your 'digs' & I may not post in those threads, but it doesn't mean I don't see them. Not interesting in offending you, but please don't throw stones when you live in a glass house yourself.
    I actually quote you when I say that but whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    1.There is a difference between him approaching a bookie and bookies approaching him.

    In his case bookies approached him.

    2.Irfan despite being failed to report twice, banned just for a year (just 6 months if he cooperates with PCB). Whereas Sharjeel failed to report just once. Hence warning and fine might do.

    3. U said, that I am supporting a match fixer
    a. He's not done any match fixing
    b. I said, if he has done even spot fixing, he should be banned for 5 years or even life ban. Never did I support a fixer


    Your statements are quite contradicting. Pls brother, be clear in ur statements.
    Just don't comment for the sake of doing it.
    And again, if u cannot comprehend, I am sorry, I can't help you out
    My view is completely consistent. If he failed to report and then lied about it, his punishment should be as severe as Irfan's, who at least admitted to his crime.

    The inconsistency would occur if he committed a similar offence to Irfan's and received a lighter punishment because he was deemed a more important long term asset to the team. This was basically your initial argument if you go back to your first post where you mentioned how valuable an opener he is by providing stats of all the other openers. What other possible point could you have been making by doing that?

    So are you for equal punishment regardless of the merit of the player as you suggested in your reply to my comment above, or for punishment based on the value of the player to the team? Pick an argument my friend and check your own logic before trying to call mine out.

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    Ban him for 5 to 7 years atleast.

    Let him eat Sindhi Biryaani for next 4 years.


    Mujhay hai Hukm e Azaa-n

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreePalestine View Post
    My view is completely consistent. If he failed to report and then lied about it, his punishment should be as severe as Irfan's, who at least admitted to his crime.

    The inconsistency would occur if he committed a similar offence to Irfan's and received a lighter punishment because he was deemed a more important long term asset to the team. This was basically your initial argument if you go back to your first post where you mentioned how valuable an opener he is by providing stats of all the other openers. What other possible point could you have been making by doing that?

    So are you for equal punishment regardless of the merit of the player as you suggested in your reply to my comment above, or for punishment based on the value of the player to the team? Pick an argument my friend and check your own logic before trying to call mine out.
    I posted the stats, to prove he is the best opener, while I have also mentioned the punishment he should face if he has fixed.

    Kindly read the full list, rather than taking a part of it, to prove ur self right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Ban him for 5 to 7 years atleast.

    Let him eat Sindhi Biryaani for next 4 years.
    It will be a massive blow

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    He will not be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    He will not be banned.
    Keep hoping


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    It will be a massive blow

    So ?

    Did sheharyar or sethi have enmity with him ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    So ?

    Did sheharyar or sethi have enmity with him ?
    Lets wait for verdict of tribunal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Keep hoping
    I just can't stomach another pathetic showing in a ICC tourney. We need him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    I just can't stomach another pathetic showing in a ICC tourney. We need him back.
    Even if he is coming back, no way in hell is he coming back before the CT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Even if he is coming back, no way in hell is he coming back before the CT.
    Yup, he will most likely miss CT even if he is cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    Lets wait for verdict of tribunal.

    Yes indeed.

    I hope if PCB let him off than ICC takes PCB to International Court of HELL.


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    Most stupid thread. What he did is not a mistake but crime. Cricket should be HARAM for him.


    Pakistan fan from Bangladesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SARJ_BD View Post
    Most stupid thread. What he did is not a mistake but crime. Cricket should be HARAM for him.
    Agreed. Don't understand why most people want him back if he did actually fix. Sure, he was good, maybe even the best in Pakistan but we don't want more criminals in our team. Even if fixed then he should be banned for life and in my opinion, go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SARJ_BD View Post
    Most stupid thread. What he did is not a mistake but crime. Cricket should be HARAM for him.
    And so is u. Read the full post

    Clearly mentioned if he's fixed he should be banned for 5 years, or even life ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Agreed. Don't understand why most people want him back if he did actually fix. Sure, he was good, maybe even the best in Pakistan but we don't want more criminals in our team. Even if fixed then he should be banned for life and in my opinion, go to jail.
    If he's fixed. He should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Yes indeed.

    I hope if PCB let him off than ICC takes PCB to International Court of HELL.
    Should be banned if found guilty of spot fixing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    I posted the stats, to prove he is the best opener, while I have also mentioned the punishment he should face if he has fixed.

    Kindly read the full list, rather than taking a part of it, to prove ur self right.
    Yeah and for the same crime as Irfan you wanted a lesser punishment. Lol, I feel fine about my position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreePalestine View Post
    Yeah and for the same crime as Irfan you wanted a lesser punishment. Lol, I feel fine about my position.
    Irfan failed to report twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    Irfan failed to report twice.
    Yes twice and for an international duty.
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    Forgive and forget.

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    Sharjeel and Sahibzada could form a destructive pair

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    What's the update on Sharjeel? Have they found anything against him yet?


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    All we are hearing about is, Shahzaib's, Khalid's and Nasir's case, and niether of the three played.

    Whereas, nothing as of now, about Sharjeel

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    Sharejeel and Shahibzada, would be a good opening pair.

    Destructive, with LH & RH combination

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    Sharejeel and Shahibzada, would be a good opening pair.

    Destructive, with LH & RH combination
    Definitely, hopefully sharjeel is cleared...

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    Looks like he would come out, clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazleefridi View Post
    Looks like he would come out, clean
    Inshallah, he is a very important player

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    After Denno`s statement, PCB is looking in bad shape. I am thinking about who will be the scapegoat ?

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    slamabad United coach Dean Jones on Wednesday testified at a tribunal hearing spot-fixing charges against Sharjeel Khan, saying two dot balls played by the batsman during a Pakistan Super League match were not suspicious from a cricketing perspective.

    The allegation relates to a match played between Islamabad United and Peshawar Zalmi held in Dubai in February, in which Sharjeel scored a single off four deliveries including two dots (balls which result in no runs). The Pakistan Cricket Board has accused him of agreeing to a spot-fixing plan and of failing to report offers to fix, charges which carry a ban ranging from five years to life if found guilty.

    Sharjeel’s lawyer Shaigan Aijaz, who is representing him at a closed-door tribunal, said: “Jones has told the tribunal that Sharjeel played dot balls on merit and that he has no reservations about Sharjeel’s shot selection.”

    The first of the two balls in question was punched to cover point, while the second was driven to mid-off. A second lawyer familiar with the proceedings confirmed Jones’ testimony, which took place via Skype, adding that the former Australia star told the tribunal Sharjeel was naturally weaker on his offside and less likely to score in that zone. Spot-fixing involves attempting to determine the outcome of a specific part of a match rather than the overall result, and is therefore harder to detect than match-fixing.

    Bowlers Mohammad Irfan and Mohammad Nawaz, who also featured in the second edition of the Twenty20 tournament have so far been suspended for failing to report offers to fix. The fate of batsmen Khalid Latif, Nasir Jamshed and Shahzaib Hasan has yet to be decided. Taffazul Rizvi, a lawyer for the PCB, added that Jones said he could not speak to whether any of his players had been approached by bookmakers.

    “He said that he would be upset if he knows that his players were involved and that players are briefed about fixing through lectures,” he said.

    http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/p...n-jones-610284

    There you go.

    Technically, it looks he hasn't fixed.

    Let me, reiterate.

    IF HE HAS FIXED, BAN FOR 5 YEARS, OR LIFE BAN SHOULD BE IMPOSED.

    IF HE HAS FAILED TO REPORT, BAN HIM FOR 4 MONTHS.

    HE WAS SUSPENDED IN MID FEBRUARY. From then on, it would be till mid june.

    You don't have any series after CT.
    He would be available for Natwest T20. Get some match practice.

    Once he returns, you would be one brute of a team with the below mentioned line up.

    1.Sharjeel Khan
    2.Sahibzada Farhan
    3.Babar Azam
    4.Haris Sohail
    5.Sarfraz Ahmed
    6.Imad Wasim
    7.Amir Yamin
    8.Shadab Khan
    9.Fahim
    10.Amir
    11.Hasan

    1.2 destructive openers.(Sharjeel and Sahibzada, left and Right common)

    2.Solid middle order (Babar, haris and Sarfraz, left and right combo)

    3.Lower middle order with hitting ability(Imad, Yamin and Shadab, left and right combo)

    4.Deep batting line up(Fahim, Amir and Hassan at 9, 10 and 11)

    5.Good pace attack (Amir and Hassan.Yamin to bowl 3 overs with the new ball at 2 in the middle. Yamin and Fahim to bowl 10 overs)

    6.Good spin AR'S (Imad and Shadab)

    7.Above all, NOT A SINGLE PLAYER above 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadida97 View Post
    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAr bas dua mango
    Hope he comes back

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    Sharjeel the savior.Bring him back.I want to see Pakistan chase down 270 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadida97 View Post
    Inshallah, he is a very important player
    You have a flavor of the late @GreenRoars in your comments
    Last edited by Mainul; 25th May 2017 at 08:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    Sharjeel the savior.Bring him back.I want to see Pakistan chase down 270 runs.
    We don't have Sharjeel nor any planned series with Bangladesh.

    Else in sometime you would've been calling him the destroyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    We don't have Sharjeel nor any planned series with Bangladesh.

    Else in sometime you would've been calling him the destroyer.
    Sharjeel,the future Hayden/Warner of Pakistan,the future destroyer of Bangladesh.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    Sharjeel,the future Hayden/Warner of Pakistan,the future destroyer of Bangladesh.....
    Future Gilly.

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    dean jones has vouched. He will be back for next series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    dean jones has vouched. He will be back for next series.
    Mohammad Yousaf and Sadiq Mohammad are other ones who will be presented by defence.

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    Today sadiq Muhammad also told the tribunal that Sharjeel played those balls on merit .... So his case is getting stronger and stronger.

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    The next Amir? At least the hype when he returns back would be similar to Amir. Next big thing after Gilchrist. Wait is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Sethi sahab the corrupt man he is, became judge, jury and executioner. He declared Sharjeel to be guilty of fixing and now he won't go back on his word otherwise it would be a HUGE slap on his face. Sharjeel will get a minimum of one year ban even if it is just failure to report.
    Considering ICC ACSU chief is involved I don't think thi is Sethi's masterplan, looks like PCB' hands were forced


    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect. --Mark Twain

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    Now with more people has said that shot is played on merit then allegations and accusations on sharjeel become weaker. If he is given a ban then he can go upto CAS to get his ban reduced or abandoned as his case is stronger with more people giving proof for him and PCB with weak evidences as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    Considering ICC ACSU chief is involved I don't think thi is Sethi's masterplan, looks like PCB' hands were forced
    It's a PCB Initiative. Only if you could read the comments of ICC's ACU.

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    Some signs he may get away with it but I am not getting excited yet

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    Looks like @Syed1 was right that Sharjeel wanted to score especially the 2nd ball of the 2nd over where the fielder saved a boundary.

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    The case rests on a single point.

    Does PCB have whatsapp evidence promising those two dot balls or not?

    If yes, Sharjeel doesn't have a case. If not, PCB doesn't have a case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumtaz View Post
    The case rests on a single point.

    Does PCB have whatsapp evidence promising those two dot balls or not?

    If yes, Sharjeel doesn't have a case. If not, PCB doesn't have a case.
    I doubt they do otherwise we would know by now

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    If he is found guilty of fixing I don't want him back ever. If he's proven not guilty, by all means bring him back.

    Let's just let the investigation play out for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    You have a flavor of the late @GreenRoars in your comments
    What do you mean by "late"

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    Whatever happened to Salman Butt's comeback scheme. Is it still on offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmiri_Pak_fan View Post
    What do you mean by "late"
    It was a sarcastic word my friend

    Greenroars just passed away from this forum deliberately due to a special reason.She was one of my favorite posters.Please don't raise any gender issue here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    You have a flavor of the late @GreenRoars in your comments
    Late?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    I doubt they do otherwise we would know by now
    PCB claims that they knew beforehand about the two dot balls. Does anybody know how PCB knew about the dot balls?

    They knew about the meeting with the bookie, obviously. But did they listen in on the conversation or what? That seems like the only plausible way of them knowing about the dot balls beforehand. Either that or the UK authorities finding something from Nasir Jamshed that they conveyed to PCB.

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    Pakistan missed him, more than ever

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    He is a bigger loss than Amir imo.

    Asif in tests and now Sharjeel in lois. Apnay paoun pai kulhari maari hai


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    sharjeel shouldnt have been suspended by PCB especially with no evidence, PCB has dug its own grave honestly.

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    Sharjeel, Sahibzada and Fakhar should be the three openers in the squad.

    Not Azhar, Shehzad and Akmal

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