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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    He was never express but he had that ability to seam and swing the ball around.

    Domestic coaches in a bid to increase his pace have told the guy to run in faster, which obviously isn't working. All the coaches have managed to done is completely ruin his flow through the crease.


    I dont think so. I saw him bowling good in opening spell. Was moving the ball. I think he is not a good death bowler

    He was very stingy in his opening spell as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Why Amin doesn't open? I think, in his U19 career, he used to open (Umar as well).
    Umar Akmal and Shehzad used to ope. Amin at 1 down


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacesensation View Post
    It was not a decade lol it was 2012 i think. Jacob Oram had same heigth and his pace was same at 18 and at 23. Not everyone gets faster as they age

    He is a line and length bowler not an express fast bowler

    for express fast, you should look at Ehtesham Sultan.
    I wrote:

    Why is it that almost half a decade later, someone who is around 6'3 - 64 still bowls at the same pace ???
    Anyways, all I am trying to say is that I was absolutely excited with this prospect however I am saddened to see that yet again we couldn't make a decent bowler out of someone who has all the ingredients to be a very useful asset for the long haul.

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    It would be quiet awkward for salman butt to give comment on umar amin given the circumstances. And whoy would the tv host ask salman butt about umar amin

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Umar Akmal and Shehzad used to ope. Amin at 1 down
    I am sure Amin has opened - can't recall, or may be in AUS. Let me search ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    yes it does how many 300 scores happen here in pak domestic..soft pitches with low bounce and thundlers getting 5fer...i am not that expert but say from what i can observe....
    Soo, does that logic suggest all our batsmen should be really great at international level (they arent) considering they bat in difficult conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    I wrote:



    Anyways, all I am trying to say is that I was absolutely excited with this prospect however I am saddened to see that yet again we couldn't make a decent bowler out of someone who has all the ingredients to be a very useful asset for the long haul.
    m bad i noticed it was half decade.

    LLike i said he is not that bad as he seems to be. He might bowl well in remaining matches but i was never impressed with his bowling. Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacesensation View Post
    I dont think so. I saw him bowling good in opening spell. Was moving the ball. I think he is not a good death bowler

    He was very stingy in his opening spell as well
    He still has the ability to move it around but his flow through the crease has completely been ruined- causing him to lose his potency and accuracy.

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    Ahmed Shehzad must be ruing his test selection. His mediocre partner Akmal is back here trying to win a spot in CT. Does anyone know if Hafeez and Malik are also trolling this tournament?

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    if they dont score 300, I am blaming butt (you know, insinuations to his past)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I am sure Amin has opened - can't recall, or may be in AUS. Let me search ...
    may be for a few matches.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    yes it does how many 300 scores happen here in pak domestic..soft pitches with low bounce and thundlers getting 5fer...i am not that expert but say from what i can observe....
    You're very right here D. saab!

    Spot on.


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    Ghulam strikes, nice slower ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    may be for a few matches.
    May be - cricket archive is paid source now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    may be for a few matches.
    Any way, his game is best for opening. Also, lefti at opening is always an added advantage, particularly if he can play through off side - tactically that's most difficult combination is a left-right combination is paired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    You're very right here D. saab!

    Spot on.
    thanks..

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    lol what is happening out there

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    Zulfi chacha ready to explode.

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    In IPL, GL are playing Ishan Kishan at 4 & JJ Roy at 6 ...
    I PSL, IU played Rafat as opener ...... and Talat as battler ......

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    Chacho Cobra showing why he's the senior pro out there !!

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    Chacho Cobra treating Amin like the mediocre club bowler that he is

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    Khalid Usman looks an average bowler.

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    Yamin should get a 5fer


    #InziOut

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    Zulfi busting out all the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    In IPL, GL are playing Ishan Kishan at 4 & JJ Roy at 6 ...
    I PSL, IU played Rafat as opener ...... and Talat as battler ......
    Experience will win you 2019 WC, not talent. We need Hafeez captaining with Gul opening the bowling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    In IPL, GL are playing Ishan Kishan at 4 & JJ Roy at 6 ...
    I PSL, IU played Rafat as opener ...... and Talat as battler ......
    This is how you groom local talent. We never gave enough chances to most of our youngsters. PSL needs more teams to have this luxury as we are mainly recycling garbage in all these franchises so far. Unless we encourage local talent these tournaments are useless.

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    Chachoo reminding Yamin of how Pollard mauled him during PSL

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    : by Chacha Zulfi


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    Quote Originally Posted by arehaan View Post
    This is how you groom local talent. We never gave enough chances to most of our youngsters. PSL needs more teams to have this luxury as we are mainly recycling garbage in all these franchises so far. Unless we encourage local talent these tournaments are useless.
    may be, because of lack of talent................

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    Punjab will be delighted with this score after the torrid start they had. Balochistan will be disappointed they didn't dismiss them for under 200.

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    Yamin is surely not a death over bowler yet all captains are hell bent on destroying the guys career. He was very good with the new ball but unfortunately his figures are not something I would be too happy about.

    As I am writing he just got the the 5th one but even though too expensive. Needs to be handled better

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    Nepotism and Corruption is Reeking from Arsal Sheikh's profile pic !!

    Disgusted to see this boy in a regional XI

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    If this match doesn't highlight the mediocrity of some of the so called senior players in Pakistan then what will? Punjab could've scored more had those 3 retired out before the start of the match.


    'We know which Pakistan has turned up today...'

    'It's the one to be afraid of.'

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    finally a 5fer


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    Shakeel Sheik must be proud of his boy. Can't bat, bowl or field.


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    'It's the one to be afraid of.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    may be, because of lack of talent................
    I would say sample size in PSL hasn't been that significant to conclude that. Whatever little we have seen so far quite a few of them were very impressive to say the least.

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    Nice little summary of pakistan cricket. Two set batsmen get out in the last ten overs and the team struggling to close at 300

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Why Amin doesn't open? I think, in his U19 career, he used to open (Umar as well).
    You need X-factor to open for Pakistan. The kind of X-factor only Kamran, Shehzad and Hafeez have and Amin can only dream of ever having.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Ahmed Shehzad must be ruing his test selection. His mediocre partner Akmal is back here trying to win a spot in CT. Does anyone know if Hafeez and Malik are also trolling this tournament?
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coming to Islamabad to play <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanCup?src=hash">#PakistanCup</a> , I hop all fans wil come &amp; wil support this event, love u all <a href="https://t.co/dco0Tz4uKw">pic.twitter.com/dco0Tz4uKw</a></p>&mdash; Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/853555751574544388">April 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    rohit sharma has a list a average of 40. this guy was averaging 34 before the innings today.
    Point is he has deserved not to be part of the squad thus far. Great start to this tournament.
    would like to know what was his avg when he debut in eng 2010.. or on what sort of promise showing propect was he selected to the tour to eng.. he vanished from no.3 and ODI team after the crazy runout in the asia cup against bangla boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacesensation View Post
    Actually hammad azam showed promise and he delivered. He was instrumental in paks win against bangladesh in asia cup final with his gritty 30/40 in that low scoring match

    He performed well in u19 where he lead his team to victory by scoring in crunch situations while chasing

    Then he hit broad for a few sixes in t20 at uae when our other batters were having issues in clearing the boundary.

    Hammad Azam cannot be compared to umar amin. I realy feel bad for Hammad Azam, he almost did everything that he was required to do so as to seal his place in pak odi team for atleast 1 year.


    So what if he bowls at 110kph.
    Dont ask him to bowl. I pray that he gets a chance to represent Pakistan with khair InshAllah soon.
    only in pak the WK with fear of losing catches stand at a longer distance.. or may be they forget where to stand for what pace .. They stand at the same place for all the bowlers who has a run-up for the bowl except spinners.... Never mind if it is Shoaib akthar or Imran Khan jr the nothing bowler who plays only T20...Sanga used to stand up for Vaas even.. And dhoni used to stand up for bhuvi and even munaf patel i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shebimalik View Post
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coming to Islamabad to play <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanCup?src=hash">#PakistanCup</a> , I hop all fans wil come & wil support this event, love u all <a href="https://t.co/dco0Tz4uKw">pic.twitter.com/dco0Tz4uKw</a></p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/853555751574544388">April 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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    But but but Umar Akmal fans say captains make him bat too low.

    I wonder who was the captain for Punjab today

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    My boy Amin burying all dem haters.

    If Amin had given as many chances as Akmal we surely would have had a good player on our hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    But but but Umar Akmal fans say captains make him bat too low.

    I wonder who was the captain for Punjab today

    You now you're crap when chachoo Cobra makes more runs at a much better SR than Umer, Kamran and Butt combined !!

    These three are probably Lahore's biggest gift to humanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    My boy Amin burying all dem haters.

    If Amin had given as many chances as Akmal we surely would have had a good player on our hands.
    king for a day etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    But but but Umar Akmal fans say captains make him bat too low.

    I wonder who was the captain for Punjab today
    coach made him do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    You now you're crap when chachoo Cobra makes more runs at a much better SR than Umer, Kamran and Butt combined !!

    These three are probably Lahore's biggest gift to humanity
    Chachoo Cobra


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacesensation View Post
    Lets give Kaptaan benefit of the doubt. I mean maybe he wanted to save him from new ball etc

    As for hammad azam's axing. I think maybe some powerful lobby influenced selection committee. I do not think Misbah ul Haq did that at his own whim.

    Not a Misbah'ul-Haq fan, just saying

    Eg nowadays some individuals are playing in our team. And its not that Sarfaraz was responsible for their selection rather someone in backdround was pulling strings
    Regards
    whatever the benefit of doubt u give to the kaptaan, he gave the short end of sticks to youngsters , hide seniors and made them scapegoats.. failed to build a team for the CWC ANZ even after 4 years of captaincy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    My boy Amin burying all dem haters.

    If Amin had given as many chances as Akmal we surely would have had a good player on our hands.
    Answering his PSL owner and kaptaan Sarfraz that u missed me.. didnt give me a chance even in the final when running short of players...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    But but but Umar Akmal fans say captains make him bat too low.

    I wonder who was the captain for Punjab today


    #InziOut

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    time for Fakhar to step up here


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    Junaid is opening the bowling


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    You know commentators are crap when they call Junaid "genuine fast"


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    I hope to God Arsal Sheikh gets blasted 100 off his 10


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    PTV camerawork has been sloppy but at least we can make out the ball unlike last year.

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    Trundlefest.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Expensive over by Junaid.

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    Its frustrating to see no good fast bowlers.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Fahim Ashraf is such a meetha bowler. He is not international standard. Guys like Warner or Kohli will chew him up alive.


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    I didn't see the first innings, how was PP's darling Ghulam Mudassar?


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    Who is this Farhan guy?

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    The lack of single taking it also an epidemic in our domestics it seems.


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    No intention to place it in the gap, 6 out of 6 balls hit straight to fielders


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    Now Fakhar also just trying to blast it and plays three dots.


    Bhai single double leh kar set tou hojao


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    Everything about Fakhar's stance, position and grip is ugly and asking for trouble against any quality attack.

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    Damn this Shahibzada is a classy batsman


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    Unless fahim can average 30 @ 100 sr , he is not worth playing as an allrounder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Everything about Fakhar's stance, position and grip is ugly and asking for trouble against any quality attack.
    Tells you how bad our domestics are that this guy averages nearly 50


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    So far Sahibzada seems to have a decent technique.

  72. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Tells you how bad our domestics are that this guy averages nearly 50
    what about farahan..he is young i think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Unless fahim can average 30 @ 100 sr , he is not worth playing as an allrounder.
    Shows Mickey is a good judge of talent, some were pleading for his selection in the XI vs WI but he doesn't look like an AR to me. Batting-wise he needs to make a major improvement.

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    Mr. Shahibzada has played two maidens in the Powerplays Mashallah

    He will do well in the Pakistan side


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    Farhan does not have good footwork , a bit if movement and he is a sitting duck


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    Farhan is very young to the game. Just four list A matches. Yet to be ruined by domestic crisis cricket

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    Test match going on. Why are our players happy to defend and no intensity whatsoever?

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    Pakistani batting strategy: Keep hitting the fielders


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    Good shot by Fakhar. Needs to learn to get singles too.


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    Chase this torgot


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