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    Ghulam Mudassar's action change

    A few days ago I heard Dr Nauman Niaz say that Ghulam Mudassar has changed his action and is now slower.

    A day later Ghulam Mudassar said in the Interview that he has been working extensively with Aqib Javed on his action.

    Did anyone else catch that? I never saw this kid bowl before so I am asking:

    1. How has Ghulam Mudassar's action changed?
    2. How much pace has he lost due to it?
    3. Why was his action changed?

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    If he has been working with Aqib Javed then Ghulam's career has ended before it even began. Unfortunate for the kid.


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    Aaqib is not a good coach. He should be fired.

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    The kiss of death or should I say Aaqibs ego has hit him then


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    hahah he has gone wild..clearly his pace is down now..

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    He's more side-on but not getting the same extension in the load up. Now he's solely relying on the final arm whip to generate pace.


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    Aaqib is generally a fast bowler killer. He messes up many, in recent past. Waqar or Shoiab should lead in that role, they can make a guy bowl fast, correct the right stuff, not slow him down


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    Aqib Javed and changing actions. The love story continues

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    Ghulam's action did need refining. Going side-on was necessary but now he has to work on that load up. Can't be dropping the lead arm so quickly and relying solely on the bowling arm and he has to increase the distance between them(as was prior to the change) to lengthen the arm-path. He should be looking to emulate Starc in that regard.


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    He's easily lost 5-6 km/h.

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    Chalo gaya kaam se.

    Inna lillah perh lou iss k career pe unless a miracle happens.


    His action was quite complicated. His fitness and strength needed improvement. That's it.


    Without the aid of Biomechanists or human movement expert his action shouldn't have been tinkered with be it be any Coach.


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    Aqib Javed has not groomed even a single fast bowler. why isn't he fired?

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    Need to run a campaign to warn all fast bowlers in domestics to stay away from Aqib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yasir View Post
    Aaqib is generally a fast bowler killer. He messes up many, in recent past. Waqar or Shoiab should lead in that role, they can make a guy bowl fast, correct the right stuff, not slow him down


    Not just Fast Bowler Killer, Career killer of anyone he works with, period!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Chalo gaya kaam se.

    Inna lillah perh lou iss k career pe unless a miracle happens.


    His action was quite complicated. His fitness and strength needed improvement. That's it.


    Without the aid of Biomechanists or human movement expert his action shouldn't have been tinkered with be it be any Coach.


    Aqib def seems to think nothing of both those, been successfully killing careers since the mid 2000's, list is getting pretty decently long now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    Aqib def seems to think nothing of both those, been successfully killing careers since the mid 2000's, list is getting pretty decently long now!
    I agree. Its his addiction and hobby to play with actions. His next shikaar prey will be Ehtisham Sultan. @Ellipsism


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedster777 View Post
    Need to run a campaign to warn all fast bowlers in domestics to stay away from Aqib.
    PCB were about to sign him as a coach after WY.... MICKEY spoiled Aaqib's party and saved pak...

    He is the director for LQ... Aaqib's bowling action was very simple, not sure on back of what he is changing bowling actions of players just randomly....

    Every young bowler should pray that he must not get selected for LQ and also should avoid going for the trials conducted by them...

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    Why is Aaqib destroying the tiny amount of talent we have these days?

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    Keep Aaqib away from young fast bowlers. Seems to make unnecessary changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Keep Aaqib away from young fast bowlers. Seems to make unnecessary changes.
    The changes he made in Ghulam's case were necessary. Remember, Aqib hasn't finished work with Ghulam, meaning there is a possibility that he will regain his lost pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    I agree. Its his addiction and hobby to play with actions. His next shikaar prey will be Ehtisham Sultan. @Ellipsism
    Ehtisham has been working with Aqib for over a month now and thus far he's done well and made some good progress.

    Ehtisham isn't collapsing as much and is now bracing his front leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    The changes he made in Ghulam's case were necessary. Remember, Aqib hasn't finished work with Ghulam, meaning there is a possibility that he will regain his lost pace.

    What changes need to be made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    What changes need to be made?
    Chief has already highlighted it above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Ehtisham has been working with Aqib for over a month now and thus far he's done well and made some good progress.

    Ehtisham isn't collapsing as much and is now bracing his front leg.

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    How does Aqib get these head coach's job ? Lets give him to India before Champion Trophy, that would be our only hope against India . Yadev, Kumar all need their action corrected, Aaqib can help.

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    He still looks fairly quick

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    Serial Action Changer at it again Somebody fire this incompetent hack already !!!

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    Doctor & Waseem discussing Ghulam's change of action and losing pace.

    They hinted at the guy behind it.


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    Ghulam has been more accurate since his action change. Also gets more wickets. I guess people here dislike Aaqib that much that anything he says or does is evil automatically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    Ghulam has been more accurate since his action change. Also gets more wickets. I guess people here dislike Aaqib that much that anything he says or does is evil automatically.

    He is not bowling as fast as previously. Previously he swung the ball back into right handers while pitching it up. Now he is unable to do that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    He is not bowling as fast as previously. Previously he swung the ball back into right handers while pitching it up. Now he is unable to do that.
    It might take time to get used to the modifications. Aaqib gives suggestions to help some bowlers to become less injury prone. He doesnt totally change their action. Now he has a chance to become something in the long run.

    Anyway time will tell. But these days he is pretty consistent with the ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    It might take time to get used to the modifications. Aaqib gives suggestions to help some bowlers to become less injury prone. He doesnt totally change their action. Now he has a chance to become something in the long run.

    Anyway time will tell. But these days he is pretty consistent with the ball.

    His Action was so complicated that it shouldn't have been tinked with at all. Just his head position should have been worked at which is totally ignored.


    Such actions are modified scientifically through experts in high performance centres. We neither have centres nor the machines or human resource so there is absolutely no justification for Hit and Trial methodology with a teenager.


    I respect your opinion but I see the same accuracy with drop in pace and absense of swing. Results are more or less similar but these were batsman heaven wickets.

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    Don't agree with Doc Nauman completely but he said that previously he could hit 145 and now he is 135 kph.

    I would say his fastest previously looked 142 143. Now his bouncers look as quick as before but pitchef up deliveries are atleast 5 kph slower and swing is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    His Action was so complicated that it shouldn't have been tinked with at all. Just his head position should have been worked at which is totally ignored.


    Such actions are modified scientifically through experts in high performance centres. We neither have centres nor the machines or human resource so there is absolutely no justification for Hit and Trial methodology with a teenager.


    I respect your opinion but I see the same accuracy with drop in pace and absense of swing. Results are more or less similar but these were batsman heaven wickets.
    They haven't changed much, just made him more side-on. The drop in pace is due to less extension. His arms are closer together and he's just whipping through without extending much at the crease. He's got to lengthen the distance between his arms but instead of the torso opening up as it did previously, he's gotta hold his side-on position. This is definitely possible. Starc is the bowler he should be looking to emulate. He's more whippy than Starc but holding the front arm for a bit longer is what he's lacking.
    Last edited by Chief Destroyer; 29th April 2017 at 21:46.


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