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    Finally got a chance for Pakistan to show his batting skills and he didn't disappoint. Brilliant young player.

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    Needs to be given more chances with the bat. I would bat him ahead of Imad if they are in the same line up

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    Talk about seeing an opportunity and taking it with both hands. Hats off to Shadab. Whilst most would have seen it as a lose-lose situation, he saw an opportunity to leave his mark. A real mature innings from Shadab who seems to prosper under pressure and enjoys responsibility.

    Was composed at the crease, rotated the strike well and never looked under pressure.

    Imad should be very worried now.

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    Would not be a bad idea if he starts opening.

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    I'm not sure how anyone can justify Imad batting ahead of Shadab from now on.

    Shadab batted like a proper batsman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    I'm not sure how anyone can justify Imad batting ahead of Shadab from now on.

    Shadab batted like a proper batsman.
    Typical Desi thinking on your part, today situation was ideal for Shaddy to bat higher, but he is more of a proper stroke player but not slogger, but in last 5 overs You need slogger like Imad who can hit big from the word Go, If 5th wicket fell before 40th then Send shadab for consolidation but if it fell after 40th then send Imad ahead of Shadab.


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    Shadab should open instead of Shehzad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeshan547 View Post
    Typical Desi thinking on your part, today situation was ideal for Shaddy to bat higher, but he is more of a proper stroke player but not slogger, but in last 5 overs You need slogger like Imad who can hit big from the word Go, If 5th wicket fell before 40th then Send shadab for consolidation but if it fell after 40th then send Imad ahead of Shadab.
    You over estimate Imad’s ability to hit big and underestimate Shadab’s

    Imad isnt exactly a consistent hitter, he does better than most in our timid line up but he is far far far away from an Abdul Razzaq

    Shadab isnt there either but he has a far great shot range and is still only a teenager. His roof is far far higher


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeshan547 View Post
    Typical Desi thinking on your part, today situation was ideal for Shaddy to bat higher, but he is more of a proper stroke player but not slogger, but in last 5 overs You need slogger like Imad who can hit big from the word Go, If 5th wicket fell before 40th then Send shadab for consolidation but if it fell after 40th then send Imad ahead of Shadab.


    What a myth.

    Shadab has hit more sixes per List A innings than Imad.

    Shadab Khan: 8 Sixes in 11 Innings (0.72 Sixes Per Innings)

    Imad Wasim: 24 Sixes in 63 Innings (0.38 Sixes Per Innings)


    Just because a guy swings from the hips doesn't mean he's a good hitter of the cricket ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    You over estimate Imad’s ability to hit big and underestimate Shadab’s

    Imad isnt exactly a consistent hitter, he does better than most in our timid line up but he is far far far away from an Abdul Razzaq

    Shadab isnt there either but he has a far great shot range and is still only a teenager. His roof is far far higher
    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post


    What a myth.

    Shadab has hit more sixes per List A innings than Imad.

    Shadab Khan: 8 Sixes in 11 Innings (0.72 Sixes Per Innings)

    Imad Wasim: 24 Sixes in 63 Innings (0.38 Sixes Per Innings)


    Just because a guy swings from the hips doesn't mean he's a good hitter of the cricket ball.
    Agree with both of you.

    Imad looked like a complete tail-ender yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeshan547 View Post
    Typical Desi thinking on your part, today situation was ideal for Shaddy to bat higher, but he is more of a proper stroke player but not slogger, but in last 5 overs You need slogger like Imad who can hit big from the word Go, If 5th wicket fell before 40th then Send shadab for consolidation but if it fell after 40th then send Imad ahead of Shadab.
    Imad hits big from the word go? Name three successful innings which typifies this approach by him? Imad is a competent but limited batsman, with a limited range of strokes. Shadab is a proper stroke player but he can also improvise, as seen in domestic T20s. A 360 degree player. Needs to bat much higher up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post

    There is no current evidence that Shadab should bat ahead of Imad, if there is then please give me some thanks.
    How about now?

    I'm afraid you backed the wrong man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    How about now?

    I'm afraid you backed the wrong man.
    Oh Shadab made one fifty. Mash'Allah he should bat at #4 for the next 20 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by New Yorker View Post
    Imad hits big from the word go? Name three successful innings which typifies this approach by him? Imad is a competent but limited batsman, with a limited range of strokes. Shadab is a proper stroke player but he can also improvise, as seen in domestic T20s. A 360 degree player. Needs to bat much higher up.
    Many people have this misconception that Imad is a perfect number 7.

    Truth is :

    1)He is a physically strong accumulator.

    2) he is not a natural striker of the ball. Striking the ball big by timing it well does not come naturally to him.

    3) he relies on brute force and hence he is a hit and miss kind of slogger (when he slogs)

    4) someone called him a rich man's Abdur rehman and tbh its proving to be true.

    5) Right now the role of a specialist t20 bowler is the only role which he can play without anybody raising a finger at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Oh Shadab made one fifty. Mash'Allah he should bat at #4 for the next 20 years.
    i believe the assertion was, "there is no evidence"

    in response to which we may note:

    shadab khan list a batting average 36
    imad wasim list a batting average 30

    imad wasim batting ave 2017, 26
    shadab khan batting ave 2017 - not yet dismissed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Oh Shadab made one fifty. Mash'Allah he should bat at #4 for the next 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Oh Shadab made one fifty. Mash'Allah he should bat at #4 for the next 20 years.
    I think you are a good poster but you have to accept that Shadab is already better than Imad and has much more potential.


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    Quote Originally Posted by New Yorker View Post
    i believe the assertion was, "there is no evidence"

    in response to which we may note:

    shadab khan list a batting average 36
    imad wasim list a batting average 30

    imad wasim batting ave 2017, 26
    shadab khan batting ave 2017 - not yet dismissed
    Spot on. Shadab is light years ahead of Imad and has a far higher ceiling.

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    Shady is an average player with good potential.

    Mostly overrated on PP though.

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    Agree with a lot of the insightful posts above about Shadab. Have thought he is a decent bat since the first time I saw highlights of him batting, could develop into a no. 6 in the future inshallah.

    Decent enough stroke maker and good accumulator. Defence still looks a little shaky, but he hasn't been out yet, so good luck to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
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    Haha, exactly.

    He can't get over the FACT that Shadab is an infinitely better player than Imad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Shady is an average player with good potential.

    Mostly overrated on PP though.
    His bowling is overrated, but still 10x better than Imad's darts. As an all-round player his potential is endless, I seem him being a mainstay of the middle order once he polishes his batting- which'll come with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    His bowling is overrated, but still 10x better than Imad's darts. As an all-round player his potential is endless, I seem him being a mainstay of the middle order once he polishes his batting- which'll come with experience.
    What’s the problem with his bowling? Has a mean googly and will only get better with time as he learns more variation and develops control.

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    If he ever bats below imad wasim again i am gonna lose it .
    How hard is it to spot potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Shady is an average player with good potential.

    Mostly overrated on PP though.
    Better than Imad

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Talk about seeing an opportunity and taking it with both hands. Hats off to Shadab. Whilst most would have seen it as a lose-lose situation, he saw an opportunity to leave his mark. A real mature innings from Shadab who seems to prosper under pressure and enjoys responsibility.

    Was composed at the crease, rotated the strike well and never looked under pressure.

    Imad should be very worried now.
    I made these comments after his 50 in the ODI, but they also ring true for the second T20. These comments seem applicable every time he comes out to bat. Long may it continue.

    Also, he should definitely be batting ahead of Imad.

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    is very good, to complete the title.


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    Pretty impressive

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    realistically, he's the 2nd most capable batsmen after Babar Azam

    he should be batting in the top 5

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    Can he be Pakistan's Steve Smith? Please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjahmed23 View Post
    Can he be Pakistan's Steve Smith? Please?
    Yeah but with better bowling


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    Quote Originally Posted by sjahmed23 View Post
    Can he be Pakistan's Steve Smith? Please?
    His idol is Steve Smith, he is more inclined towards batting.

    KP started off as an off spinner, so many more examples. I see him becoming more established batsman in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjahmed23 View Post
    Can he be Pakistan's Steve Smith? Please?
    Shadab > Smith

    he's much younger and has real swag

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Shadab > Smith

    he's much younger and has real swag
    Knowing our culture and history with these younsta beauties he will soon be spoiled by the take it easy lifestyle and be pushed off in a year or so after this performance. But let's hope that does not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Shadab > Smith

    he's much younger and has real swag
    Are you really serious with this comment? Smith averages 60+ in tests with 20+ hundreds. Please remind me what has Shadab done in world cricket?

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    He should be batting in top six , no doubt . has serious batting potential. He probably can be a good batting all rounder. Not bad for team balance. Pakistan can easily play another specialist spinner in OD . At the moment shadab , fahim , hassan can be key weapons for 2019 WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giri26 View Post
    Are you really serious with this comment? Smith averages 60+ in tests with 20+ hundreds. Please remind me what has Shadab done in world cricket?
    What has he done in world cricket?!
    Are you serious??

    He averages 73 with a strike rate of 80

    And has already made 2 very difficult 50s in just 15 matches. WOW

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    What a cricketer this guy is turning out to be .
    Great progress and to think he used to bat below sohail tanvir .
    Huge positive from the series.

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    Real Progress.

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    When Shadab came out to the crease I was quite surprised as I thought Faheem Ashraf or even Aamir Yamin would have been better suitable to attack the opposition at that stage. Then I thought that this kid could potentially form a decent partnership with Haris and there running between the wickets would be ideal. This kid tody played a hell of a knock, showed the seniors how to play and understood the pitch. Plenty of potential from this guy.

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    Want to see him bat ahead of Sarfraz or Hafeez . We know what there best is. Shadab has shown a lot of potential with the bat, the more he bats the better he will get. He's coming in situations where he has to attack from ball 1. If he bats up the order he will learn how to construct an innings. Which will help improve his batting further.

    Shadab,Hasan,and Faheem potential is very very exciting.

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    this guy will be going places in pakistan cricket

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    Doing really well today - excellent innings and exactly what he is there for.


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    Fantastic prospect ... if he can consistently add 30-35 runs with the bat, would become a genuine world class all-rounder!

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    Got to say that Mickey got it right. Did not see this coming. Hopefully they will be able do this against a top class side as well. Ireland did not have a decent fourth or fifth bowler so they got away, but against ENG/NZ it will be difficult.


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    I think he is one of the most talented cricketers Pakistan have seen for a while.


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    Truly a great talent.
    Though he is considered to be a bowling allrounder but he does more with the bat every time gets an opportunity.

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    Brilliant stuff from the lad. Hes turning out to be a fantastic prospect. Needs to keep his head down and not let focus dwindle on his bowling as well.

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    He could just focus on his batting and get in on that alone. What a knock today. His mentality is brilliant, not fazed by a tough situation.

    Hope he becomes the batting AR we've been crying out for in Test cricket.

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    He may shut the door on Yasir if he scores some runs consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    He may shut the door on Yasir if he scores some runs consistently.
    Yasir's bowling has carried our Test attack for years though - Shadab needs to keep working on his stock delivery and improve his control as he can be expensive.

    You could slot him in at 6 when Yasir returns and ask him to focus on his batting with 8-10 overs of spin per innings - but two leg spinners is overkill and would make our attack one dimensional as we saw in Barbados last year.

    But it's important to keep Yasir on his toes, especially as his fitness is suspect and he is over 30 years of age already. He can definitely be groomed as Yasir's long term replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    He could just focus on his batting and get in on that alone. What a knock today. His mentality is brilliant, not fazed by a tough situation.

    Hope he becomes the batting AR we've been crying out for in Test cricket.
    Faheem and Shadab can be the genuine all rounders, Talat as a batsman with a few overs to allow rest and hold up an end etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Yasir's bowling has carried our Test attack for years though - Shadab needs to keep working on his stock delivery and improve his control as he can be expensive.

    You could slot him in at 6 when Yasir returns and ask him to focus on his batting with 8-10 overs of spin per innings - but two leg spinners is overkill and would make our attack one dimensional as we saw in Barbados last year.

    But it's important to keep Yasir on his toes, especially as his fitness is suspect and he is over 30 years of age already. He can definitely be groomed as Yasir's long term replacement.
    Outside Asia, Shadab might be a better option.

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    It's not really justifiable to find room for both leggies in the same team but why can't Pakistan just tailor their selection to the conditions? On a pitch where spinners aren't expected to be as important as the seamers, Shadab becomes a pick ahead of Yasir due to his batting. On a dustbowl Yasir plays as a genuine matchwinner complemented by a SLA like Asghar.

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    There is no need for Shadab to play all three formats if yasir is better test bowler than him. He is still very young and inexperienced. For test cricket, you have to be patient and let the game come to you. He will get his opportunity when Yasir retires.


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    Can’t Shadab also bowl off spin? He’s a great off spinner. I bet he has a great doosra!

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    Shadab as a # 6 batsman

    The only way this 5 bowler policy will work for Pakistan is if Shadab can develop as a reliable # 6 batsman.I don’t see Sarfraz is a long term option @6.

    So what do pp’ers feel about his batting does he have the technique and temperament to be a test #6?

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    Great going young fella. Two very useful innings in 2 consecutive overseas matches.

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    So far has shown more potential as test bat than bowler

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    His role model is Steve Smith and I can see his batting develop more than his leg spin. I think by 2023 World Cup he will be an accomplished number 4/5 in ODIs for Pakistan and possibly bat as a high 6 in tests at some point in the future.

    As for his bowling, leggies generally peak in their late 20s/early 30s, so it may take time or he may decide to put his efforts in batting which is what I'll like to see rather than trying to figure out which one and end up being a bits and pieces cricketer like Shahid Afridi.

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    He's more of a batting all rounder than a bowling all rounder. I hope the management realises this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArsenalFC View Post
    His role model is Steve Smith and I can see his batting develop more than his leg spin. I think by 2023 World Cup he will be an accomplished number 4/5 in ODIs for Pakistan and possibly bat as a high 6 in tests at some point in the future.

    As for his bowling, leggies generally peak in their late 20s/early 30s, so it may take time or he may decide to put his efforts in batting which is what I'll like to see rather than trying to figure out which one and end up being a bits and pieces cricketer like Shahid Afridi.
    I think he should target being a complete bowler in ODIs and for test his role should be batting AR

    I feel we can develop him and faheem as no. 7 in uae and overseas respectively

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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    So far has shown more potential as test bat than bowler
    Has potential to average 45 plus in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Great going young fella. Two very useful innings in 2 consecutive overseas matches.
    And with age he will also learn that it is the hundred which is the big deal and not 50. Very impressive.
    This is what Pakistan have missed of late, a lower order who can contribute with big runs.


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    Love him. 19 years old scoring a 50 at Lords as a ‘bowler’ is a very impressive feat.

    He has huge potential and indeed, should bat higher. He has the ability to be a Shakib type player who’s both great with bat and ball. Give him the chance.

    At the same time, only 19. No need to put such pressure on him atm.

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    Our no 7 & 8 😍💪🏽


    Waiting for the day when there will be no p....i player in a green shirt

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    Needs to play well here to get Pakistan to a respectable total.

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    Technically decent seems to put a price on his wicket and willing to fight.

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    Has looked the most assured of all Pakistani batsmen. The way he has been batting and given our meager batting resources, I won't be surprised if he becomes a pure batsman in a year or two, but I fear that will come at the cost of his bowling (at least in tests).

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    Can bat at #6 or even #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by amvbfm View Post
    Has looked the most assured of all Pakistani batsmen. The way he has been batting and given our meager batting resources, I won't be surprised if he becomes a pure batsman in a year or two, but I fear that will come at the cost of his bowling (at least in tests).
    Wonder if he goes the Steve Smith way, doubt it though as his bowling was better than Steve Smith's ever was

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    Our lower order is just top class. LOL

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    Said it in some other threads - he can be a Test #6 for us if he keeps developing his batting.

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    His batting is love. The best thing is his temperament during crisis.

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    Kamaal 50 by Shadab. Excellent knock under pressure.

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    What a brilliant knock. Such a mature, special cricketer. The way he’s placed it


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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Wonder if he goes the Steve Smith way, doubt it though as his bowling was better than Steve Smith's ever was
    Nah, don't think he will ever be that good (but tbf like a lot of other people I never thought Smith will make it at the international level). I'd say if he realizes his full batting potential, he will end up somewhere between Malik and Smith, which for this team will be a lot. His bowling is leagues ahead of what Smith bowled but still not good enough for him to become a genuine test class allrounder. I see Shadab becoming a linchpin of this team, and maybe even the captain in 3-5 years (if not earlier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by amvbfm View Post
    Nah, don't think he will ever be that good (but tbf like a lot of other people I never thought Smith will make it at the international level). I'd say if he realizes his full batting potential, he will end up somewhere between Malik and Smith, which for this team will be a lot. His bowling is leagues ahead of what Smith bowled but still not good enough for him to become a genuine test class allrounder. I see Shadab becoming a linchpin of this team, and maybe even the captain in 3-5 years (if not earlier).
    He is destined for greatness. Shadab Khan as a batsman is capable of scoring centuries. Not one of those all-rounders who can score pretty 20s and 30s, is a proper player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    He is destined for greatness. Shadab Khan as a batsman is capable of scoring centuries. Not one of those all-rounders who can score pretty 20s and 30s, is a proper player.
    No doubt about that. But it will be unfortunate if it comes at the cost of his bowling as I think he has equal if not more potential with the ball.


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