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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    I think they've given Shehzad enough chances to come to the party so he should make way for Amin now, unfortunately we both know that Moha will be playing at the very least until the 2019 WC so we can't do much about that unless he's banned for chucking and there's pressure to get rid of him as a specialist batsman because he doesn't make the team based on his batting or bowling alone; anyhow he's someone who shouldn't be in the team to begin with but that's just how it is.
    Its simple Shahzad should go back to domestics and score runs to be back. He has been way too inconsistent for a long time and has never been sent packing to domestics. Its time for Amin and Haris to be part of ODI setup as they have scored in domestics where it mattered.

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    Seems like Mickey isn't really interested in U. Amin considering he has been with the team for months yet hasn't played a game.

    The same way Mickey hasnt given M. Asghar a game yet while he should have had played 3/4 matches by now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    Seems like Mickey isn't really interested in U. Amin considering he has been with the team for months yet hasn't played a game.

    The same way Mickey hasnt given M. Asghar a game yet while he should have had played 3/4 matches by now.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's just been selected for this T20 series. Don't think he's been with the team for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Devil View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's just been selected for this T20 series. Don't think he's been with the team for months.
    He was there with the team for the World eleven series as well. Maybe the T20 series before that as well. But 6 T20's have passed and he has not played in even one of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    He was there with the team for the World eleven series as well. Maybe the T20 series before that as well. But 6 T20's have passed and he has not played in even one of them.
    Similar situation to Haris Sohail, who has been with the ODI side for 6 months and yet to get a game


    You can thank Muhammad Hafeez for hogging a middle order spot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Similar situation to Haris Sohail, who has been with the ODI side for 6 months and yet to get a game


    You can thank Muhammad Hafeez for hogging a middle order spot.
    How can you hog a spot? This is not tape ball cricket. This is the international team, nobody 'hogs a spot'. They are selected by the management and are dropped by the management. if they feel Hafeez should play ahead of sohail then thats their decision, Hafeez not opting to retire has nothing to do with this. He isnt undroppable like Tendulkar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    How can you hog a spot? This is not tape ball cricket. This is the international team, nobody 'hogs a spot'. They are selected by the management and are dropped by the management. if they feel Hafeez should play ahead of sohail then thats their decision, Hafeez not opting to retire has nothing to do with this. He isnt undroppable like Tendulkar
    Everything right, apart from last line - you have no idea what you have written here. Even Sobers was politely asked to retire from ODI at 38, once his debut ended 0 (6) (He had a List A batting stats of 38+/75+ in an era when Gillette Cup average scores were 200/9 in 60 overs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Everything right, apart from last line - you have no idea what you have written here. Even Sobers was politely asked to retire from ODI at 38, once his debut ended 0 (6) (He had a List A batting stats of 38+/75+ in an era when Gillette Cup average scores were 200/9 in 60 overs).
    Bro im bringing the 'dragging a retirement' scenario into perspective. The whole world knows that the BCCI allowed Tendulkar a stretch in the side from 99-100 ODI centuries. And yes, once it was done, im sure he was politely told that his future in the Indian side is very much bleak. In Hafeez's situation, there is no need for the management to give him any leeway. Like do they want him to finish with an ODI average of 35+? They have nothing to gain with persisting with him and nor does Hafeez have any reason to stay and fight for a major accolade. Its clearly not a situation of 'hogging' a spot in the middle order. I feel very sorry for Harris Sohail because he was out of the game for a year and a half and took another 6 months to get back into the international fold. Since his departure, others have done enough for them to not want to make a drastic change, and Harris has not scored something like back to back 150s in the domestic circuit for his inclusion to be pencilled in straight away. He will get his chance, it has nothing to do with any player hogging the limelight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Bro im bringing the 'dragging a retirement' scenario into perspective. The whole world knows that the BCCI allowed Tendulkar a stretch in the side from 99-100 ODI centuries. And yes, once it was done, im sure he was politely told that his future in the Indian side is very much bleak. In Hafeez's situation, there is no need for the management to give him any leeway. Like do they want him to finish with an ODI average of 35+? They have nothing to gain with persisting with him and nor does Hafeez have any reason to stay and fight for a major accolade. Its clearly not a situation of 'hogging' a spot in the middle order. I feel very sorry for Harris Sohail because he was out of the game for a year and a half and took another 6 months to get back into the international fold. Since his departure, others have done enough for them to not want to make a drastic change, and Harris has not scored something like back to back 150s in the domestic circuit for his inclusion to be pencilled in straight away. He will get his chance, it has nothing to do with any player hogging the limelight.
    Everyone (who matters) ranks MoHa high (almost as high as Mazid Khan) for his ability to hit 1/2 "crispy" shots, that too when chips are up and bowlers are bit above FC level - because they are depressed with watching Azhar, Misbah, Masood, Sarfraz, Sami, Ahmed, Fawad batting ... with zero flair in shot making, neither even woolen touch. On top of that, this English guy Arthur is coming from his traditional English school of thoughts - spinners are there to restrict runs & contribute with bat - so he loves those darters, who can bat a bit - MoHa, Imad, Nawaz ... though there are some brilliant classical spinners available and Asghar is being rotting on bench in a 0-2 defeat to this ATG SRL team.

    Regarding retirement - MoHa won't even think that before 2023, trust me. He'll change his role - if ICC does a mighty favor for PAK cricket, he'll go back to Sui Gas, force groundsmen to take out last tinge of grass and start opening again - already wickets are getting better and it'll get much better in summer time after PSL. After the show by Ahmed, Sami, Shan & Fakhar - Ul Haq is waiting eagerly for just one good knock from his buddy to bring him back as opener. This man delayed announcement of Test team (WI, UAE) by a day or two, so that MoHa gets his last bite in that 3 practice match (still bolted against part - timers, when he was asked to prove something). Then this same guy announced PAK CT team among last, so that he can factor PAK Cup in his scouting ..... then he declared the team mid way, after MoHa had couple of "sterling" knocks.

    If ICC doesn't do the favor - he'll start batting at 5 and bowl 35 overs per innings (if batting side can last that long), denying couple of young spinners ....... and Ul Haq will bring him for 2018 home Test series as "all-rounder", to remain an assured starter till 2023 WC. And, if so (ICC doesn't do the favor), Sarfraz should be scared, very scared, very very scared ..... already has made the XI in AUS once as specialist Captain.

    Posters make fun of YK, Misbah & Afridi for prolonging their career - they were saint in this regard, trust me, saints. Afridi still can make PAK T20 side, Misbah was almost MoS in his last series and YK could have saved PAK from that 0-2, still had enough class left in tank for at least 2 more home season till 2018 ...... this guy MoHa wants to play till 2019 WC (2020 & 2023 as well - approaching one by one at a time) for his 16/105 T20 stats and chucking ...... and that one miracle innings on 18th June!!!!!!!

    Let's give some respect to Misbah, Afridi & YK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Everyone (who matters) ranks MoHa high (almost as high as Mazid Khan) for his ability to hit 1/2 "crispy" shots, that too when chips are up and bowlers are bit above FC level - because they are depressed with watching Azhar, Misbah, Masood, Sarfraz, Sami, Ahmed, Fawad batting ... with zero flair in shot making, neither even woolen touch. On top of that, this English guy Arthur is coming from his traditional English school of thoughts - spinners are there to restrict runs & contribute with bat - so he loves those darters, who can bat a bit - MoHa, Imad, Nawaz ... though there are some brilliant classical spinners available and Asghar is being rotting on bench in a 0-2 defeat to this ATG SRL team.

    Regarding retirement - MoHa won't even think that before 2023, trust me. He'll change his role - if ICC does a mighty favor for PAK cricket, he'll go back to Sui Gas, force groundsmen to take out last tinge of grass and start opening again - already wickets are getting better and it'll get much better in summer time after PSL. After the show by Ahmed, Sami, Shan & Fakhar - Ul Haq is waiting eagerly for just one good knock from his buddy to bring him back as opener. This man delayed announcement of Test team (WI, UAE) by a day or two, so that MoHa gets his last bite in that 3 practice match (still bolted against part - timers, when he was asked to prove something). Then this same guy announced PAK CT team among last, so that he can factor PAK Cup in his scouting ..... then he declared the team mid way, after MoHa had couple of "sterling" knocks.

    If ICC doesn't do the favor - he'll start batting at 5 and bowl 35 overs per innings (if batting side can last that long), denying couple of young spinners ....... and Ul Haq will bring him for 2018 home Test series as "all-rounder", to remain an assured starter till 2023 WC. And, if so (ICC doesn't do the favor), Sarfraz should be scared, very scared, very very scared ..... already has made the XI in AUS once as specialist Captain.

    Posters make fun of YK, Misbah & Afridi for prolonging their career - they were saint in this regard, trust me, saints. Afridi still can make PAK T20 side, Misbah was almost MoS in his last series and YK could have saved PAK from that 0-2, still had enough class left in tank for at least 2 more home season till 2018 ...... this guy MoHa wants to play till 2019 WC (2020 & 2023 as well - approaching one by one at a time) for his 16/105 T20 stats and chucking ...... and that one miracle innings on 18th June!!!!!!!

    Let's give some respect to Misbah, Afridi & YK.
    If his bowling does get banned then it would be a big plus for Pakistan. As he will be judged based on his batting alone and I doubt he can save his spot based on his batting alone. He could not bash even his favorite punching bag who came with a rookie team. Clock is ticking for a Hafeez and next week will decide his future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    Seems like Mickey isn't really interested in U. Amin considering he has been with the team for months yet hasn't played a game.

    The same way Mickey hasnt given M. Asghar a game yet while he should have had played 3/4 matches by now.
    People said the same of Haris and Fakhar when Mickey was slow to give them their chance.

    I think quite simply Mickey doesn't like having too many inexperienced players in the team all at once. He'll want to make absolutely sure he can't get anything from the current lot before moving on.

    Same with Ashgar, he even said it himself, he had three pacers who had games under their belts, so he went with that. Unlike the second spinner, who hadn't been tried out at international cricket yet. So he went with the three pacers.

    Honestly I find it kind of funny people go on about Mickey playing youth/new guys, in fact it's the opposite, he's rather slow to induct it when it's been hanging around in the squad. Good thing though is he seems to give players a quite a few chances once they play, is a more settled unit rather than chopping and changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmhs View Post
    everyone (who matters) ranks moha high (almost as high as mazid khan) for his ability to hit 1/2 "crispy" shots, that too when chips are up and bowlers are bit above fc level - because they are depressed with watching azhar, misbah, masood, sarfraz, sami, ahmed, fawad batting ... With zero flair in shot making, neither even woolen touch. On top of that, this english guy arthur is coming from his traditional english school of thoughts - spinners are there to restrict runs & contribute with bat - so he loves those darters, who can bat a bit - moha, imad, nawaz ... Though there are some brilliant classical spinners available and asghar is being rotting on bench in a 0-2 defeat to this atg srl team.

    Regarding retirement - moha won't even think that before 2023, trust me. He'll change his role - if icc does a mighty favor for pak cricket, he'll go back to sui gas, force groundsmen to take out last tinge of grass and start opening again - already wickets are getting better and it'll get much better in summer time after psl. After the show by ahmed, sami, shan & fakhar - ul haq is waiting eagerly for just one good knock from his buddy to bring him back as opener. This man delayed announcement of test team (wi, uae) by a day or two, so that moha gets his last bite in that 3 practice match (still bolted against part - timers, when he was asked to prove something). Then this same guy announced pak ct team among last, so that he can factor pak cup in his scouting ..... Then he declared the team mid way, after moha had couple of "sterling" knocks.

    If icc doesn't do the favor - he'll start batting at 5 and bowl 35 overs per innings (if batting side can last that long), denying couple of young spinners ....... And ul haq will bring him for 2018 home test series as "all-rounder", to remain an assured starter till 2023 wc. And, if so (icc doesn't do the favor), sarfraz should be scared, very scared, very very scared ..... Already has made the xi in aus once as specialist captain.

    Posters make fun of yk, misbah & afridi for prolonging their career - they were saint in this regard, trust me, saints. Afridi still can make pak t20 side, misbah was almost mos in his last series and yk could have saved pak from that 0-2, still had enough class left in tank for at least 2 more home season till 2018 ...... This guy moha wants to play till 2019 wc (2020 & 2023 as well - approaching one by one at a time) for his 16/105 t20 stats and chucking ...... And that one miracle innings on 18th june!!!!!!!

    Let's give some respect to misbah, afridi & yk.
    class!


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    Played well today, should be part of limited overs setup for coming tour of NZ.

    Still wasnt playing as freely as I have seen him play in domestics hopefully the exposure with international team will sort that out.

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    Looked so good while out there and began to find the boundary too before he got out. Massive step up from Shehzad.


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    He should be in the ODI squad

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    I have vouched for Amin for years, and perhaps I should bump my "Umar Amin as an ODI opener? thread one more time, but he doesn't add much to the T20 side. We don't need another touch player who will most operate at run a ball.

    Good innings today though, and should be in the mix for the ODI XI.

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    Wrong format. More of a fluent strokeplayer suited to ODIs than a powerhitter at the top of the order in T20s.

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    ok innings. But again I'm yet to be convinced. But he did look a bit better than Shezad, Thats not saying alot though.

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    Decent innings but I can't see him getting in the ODI side. No room for him; I would pick Saad Ali over him. He should be in the next T20 squad though based on yesterday's performance.

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    He should replace Shahzad as the opener for the next tour. We need fluent stokeplayers in our ODI setup. I can see him and Fakhar having great starts at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Decent innings but I can't see him getting in the ODI side. No room for him; I would pick Saad Ali over him. He should be in the next T20 squad though based on yesterday's performance.
    Dont mix 2 formats saad ali did nothing in recent list a matches he performed in first class and should be only selected in test team

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Decent innings but I can't see him getting in the ODI side. No room for him; I would pick Saad Ali over him. He should be in the next T20 squad though based on yesterday's performance.

    Saad Ali performs good should get selected.

    Amin performs good dont see him getting in the ODI side...

    How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Decent innings but I can't see him getting in the ODI side. No room for him; I would pick Saad Ali over him. He should be in the next T20 squad though based on yesterday's performance.
    saad ali is not good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadida97 View Post
    saad ali is not good enough
    Leading run scorer in QeA?

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    Still not entirely convinced he is a t20 player, but he did play some lovely shots a la Yousuf. He has definitely bulked up since he first came on to the scene but needs to improve on his boundary hitting early on if he wants to stay in the t20 side.

    Could be a good back up option in ODIs, as he rotated the strike nicely. But the biggest question remains: has he overcome his mental weaknesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Saad Ali performs good should get selected.

    Amin performs good dont see him getting in the ODI side...

    How?
    As Umar Amin has impressed as an opener whereas Saad Ali is a middle order batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    But the biggest question remains: has he overcome his mental weaknesses?
    Got out yesterday in a similar way like 3 years back. Kind of a lazy shot.


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    umar amin looked a bit lazy like he was earlier...

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    Not convinced.

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    36 ball 56 against Islamabad today (against a bowling attack composed of Irfan (r/h), Gul, Rahat Ali and Raza Hasan).

    It was a very impressive knock against a strong bowling attack.

    If he has truly overcome his mental weakness then he deserves a decent run in the national team.

    With Shehzad gone, hopefully he will open for QG in PSL 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    36 ball 56 against Islamabad today (against a bowling attack composed of Irfan (r/h), Gul, Rahat Ali and Raza Hasan).

    It was a very impressive knock against a strong bowling attack.

    If he has truly overcome his mental weakness then he deserves a decent run in the national team.

    With Shehzad gone, hopefully he will open for QG in PSL 3.
    Just a correction it was Irfan (l/h).

    Overall, yes it was a very good knock and some of the shots he played was truly remarkable. Proper cricketing shots phainta was given to Irfan, Gul and to an extent Rahat. If his team had another decent bat they would have chased this total down.

    Hopefully, he gets to play this PSL 3. But then again Asad Shafiq is also in QG squad so I won't be surprised if he gets the nod ahead of him. Don't forget Asad played 7/8 games in last PSL while Amin played in 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra_Cover View Post
    Just a correction it was Irfan (l/h).

    Overall, yes it was a very good knock and some of the shots he played was truly remarkable. Proper cricketing shots phainta was given to Irfan, Gul and to an extent Rahat. If his team had another decent bat they would have chased this total down.

    Hopefully, he gets to play this PSL 3. But then again Asad Shafiq is also in QG squad so I won't be surprised if he gets the nod ahead of him. Don't forget Asad played 7/8 games in last PSL while Amin played in 0.
    Right you are- thanks. The other Irfan was also playing today and I must have muddled the two.

    Yes, the second six off Gul's over was particularly special.

    Don't see Shafiq playing as an opener, especially when Amin has just started to open in t20 for the national team under Sarfaraz's captaincy.

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    Pretty sure he will get games this season. Not a fan but good luck to him!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    36 ball 56 against Islamabad today (against a bowling attack composed of Irfan (r/h), Gul, Rahat Ali and Raza Hasan).

    It was a very impressive knock against a strong bowling attack.

    If he has truly overcome his mental weakness then he deserves a decent run in the national team.

    With Shehzad gone, hopefully he will open for QG in PSL 3.
    Bhai Amin has always been one of the most profilic batsman in these domestic T20 tournaments... there have been few tournaments in which Amin alone was carrying the entire Pindi batting. The problem is he has not been able to translate that domestic numbers into international performance, that is where the mental midget part comes in.

    He had a good third (or fourth?) debut against Sri Lanka in the last T20, hopefully he keeps performing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Bhai Amin has always been one of the most profilic batsman in these domestic T20 tournaments... there have been few tournaments in which Amin alone was carrying the entire Pindi batting. The problem is he has not been able to translate that domestic numbers into international performance, that is where the mental midget part comes in.

    He had a good third (or fourth?) debut against Sri Lanka in the last T20, hopefully he keeps performing.
    Do you even realise that last game Amin played against Sri Lanka was after a gap of 3 years. I agree he did not had great time in internationals but why pass a judgement on someone who played like 15 odis over a span of 7 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Bhai Amin has always been one of the most profilic batsman in these domestic T20 tournaments... there have been few tournaments in which Amin alone was carrying the entire Pindi batting. The problem is he has not been able to translate that domestic numbers into international performance, that is where the mental midget part comes in.

    He had a good third (or fourth?) debut against Sri Lanka in the last T20, hopefully he keeps performing.
    I agree. He deserved to be dropped all those years ago and to be honest even when he was recently part of the t20 squad I wasn't convinced that was his format.

    Previous international failures should be taken into account, but we should also have some perspective. We aren't talking about Shehzad or Kamran. Rather, we are talking about a guy who has played 30 international matches in 7 years.

    It is possible he has gone away and worked on his (mental) game. That should be rewarded. Enough has changed for him to be given a decent run. If anyone can get the best out of him, it is Sarfaraz and Mickey. The rest is up to him. If he fails, then let's move on. All I am saying is that he deserves a fair run to see if he has actually overcome his mental weakness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I have vouched for Amin for years, and perhaps I should bump my "Umar Amin as an ODI opener? thread one more time, but he doesn't add much to the T20 side. We don't need another touch player who will most operate at run a ball.

    Good innings today though, and should be in the mix for the ODI XI.
    Not sure about the thread u opened. I agree with you on this before i guess in some other thread. As I have also been vouching for this a long time, whatmore and misbah gave him the chance and i thought it was attempted to fill Jamshed's void created for LHB opener but quickly shelved. He deserves the chance in ODIs now as he is in beast mode ever since the Pakistan one day cup last year. Good to see him score in Lahore in the 3rd t20 and hopefully get more games and quickly come into the fore for the ODIs..

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    65 runs of 74 balls today in Departmental ODI Cup


    [QUOTE=Mamoon;9742871]Don't see us ascending from 7th/6th in the near future. 5-0 in England and South Africa awaits us, we will be lucky to even draw one match. [/QUOTE]

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    I for one will be very disappointed if Amin is dropped from T20 squad by the revolutionary Inzi.

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    Umar Amin lbw b Mir Hamza 0
    Semi final of ODI departmental Cup


    [QUOTE=Mamoon;9742871]Don't see us ascending from 7th/6th in the near future. 5-0 in England and South Africa awaits us, we will be lucky to even draw one match. [/QUOTE]

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    Chance to shine today if he gets to play!


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    Lets see his mental state today Hope he scores a half century if not more..

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    Flatters to deceive.

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    Hoping he does well. Need a partner for Fakhar.

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    Once a tailender, always a tailender

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    He's still on the plane

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    84* from 100 balls today in regional OD cup


    [QUOTE=Mamoon;9742871]Don't see us ascending from 7th/6th in the near future. 5-0 in England and South Africa awaits us, we will be lucky to even draw one match. [/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    84* from 100 balls today in regional OD cup
    And 3 top order wickets - ultimate batting all-rounder’s out put.

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    The good thing for him is that Pakistan has pretty rubbish standard of odi competition in 2018. So, like Hafeez in 2011, he can establish himself as a team member. It will all unravel spectacularly when we get to South Africa next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    And 3 top order wickets - ultimate batting all-rounder’s out put.
    his height is good,if he use his brain then he can be a good part timer and we will not need

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    84* from 100 balls today in regional OD cup
    Good effort considering the 3rd T20I was only on Sunday. Must have been tired from travelling/jet lagged

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    He's still a trash player I see nothing good in him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    He's still a trash player I see nothing good in him.
    like what??? for me he is one of the elegant and good player with soldi technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    like what??? for me he is one of the elegant and good player with soldi technique.
    What good is technique if you can't back it up with good scores? That's just terrible. He's a left-handed Asad Shafiq.

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    Rawalpindi Region 302-7 in 50 overs: (Azhar Ali 104, 111 balls, 9x4s, 1x6, Umar Amin 81, 88 balls, 6x4s, 2x4s, Iftikhar Ahmed 38, 36 balls, 6x4s, Taj Wali 4-43)

    Peshawar Region 305-2 in 47.3 overs: ( Israrullah 150, 125 balls, 14x4s, 5x6s, Asad Shafiq 102*, 89 balls, 10x4s, 2x6s, Sahibzada Farhan 40, 66 balls, 4x4s, 1x6, Attaullah 1-62 )

    Result: Peshawar Region won the match by 8 wickets

    Toss: Peshawar Region

    Umpires: Rashid Riaz & Abdul Moqeet

    Referee: Shahid Butt

    Scorer: Aamer Khan
    Last edited by hadi123; 2nd February 2018 at 16:16.


    [QUOTE=Mamoon;9742871]Don't see us ascending from 7th/6th in the near future. 5-0 in England and South Africa awaits us, we will be lucky to even draw one match. [/QUOTE]

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    102 for Umar Amin for Sindh today! Looking to send a message to selectors.


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    Umar Amin stylish player in Pakistan

    Pakistan Cup 2018

    Umar Amin start with Hundred make 102 against Baluchistan

    I like his batting i hope he should make a solid comeback in Pakistan Inshallah.

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    Still wanna give him some chances in ODIs. He’s never really been given a consistent run yet.

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    Starts FC season with 146* on Day 1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Starts FC season with 146* on Day 1.
    Great potential kid, a matter of time he's given a consistent run and backed up.

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    It's disappointing that in 2018 we are still talking about his talent rather than his performances.

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    He should be taken as 3rd opener after Shaan fails

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    Umer Amin 97, 114 balls, 7x4s, 3x6s, playing for SSGCL against Karachi Region White.

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    He is 100 time better then shan masood and imam ul haq............

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    Gave him long go then he should give us good results in all three formats inshallah........

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    Umer Amin scored 109 of 138 balls.

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    Umar Amin should have been given consistent chances as number 3,4 or 5 batsman in Pakistan Test and Odi team.

    A case of severe mistreatment over last 8 years.


    Umar Amin should have been treated like BD have treated Litton Das. Look at Litton’s Int numbers of last 3 years but BD persisted with him and now he is on the Up.


    You don’t Pick throw pick throw such a talented player with sword hanging on his head all the time whenever he makes comeback for one or two matches.


    Most mistreated batsman of last 20 years are Ayub Dogar & Umar Amin.


    Fawad too but Fawad had lots of limitations as a batsman despite having staggering domestic numbers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
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    Quality knock against Saad Altaf & Syed Tauseeq Shah on a pacers friendly wicket.


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    After Shoaib Malik i like only two player which are playing in Pakistan
    1.Umar Amin
    2.Hammad Azam

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Umar Amin should have been given consistent chances as number 3,4 or 5 batsman in Pakistan Test and Odi team.

    A case of severe mistreatment over last 8 years.


    Umar Amin should have been treated like BD have treated Litton Das. Look at Litton’s Int numbers of last 3 years but BD persisted with him and now he is on the Up.


    You don’t Pick throw pick throw such a talented player with sword hanging on his head all the time whenever he makes comeback for one or two matches.


    Most mistreated batsman of last 20 years are Ayub Dogar & Umar Amin.


    Fawad too but Fawad had lots of limitations as a batsman despite having staggering domestic numbers.
    I agree with you on the part of mistreatment of Amin. However, I don't want to sound like it is only him that went through this mistreatment as that would be wrong. The Pakistani players that I have watched them play and who should have been treated professionally by PCB are:
    - Umar Amin
    - Naved Yasin
    - Ehsan Adil
    - Mansoor Amjad
    - Sohail Khan (pre 2015)
    - Abdur Rauf

    Above are some recent players that I have watched them play and from naked eye you can make out that they are cut above the rest and should have been groomed better by PCB. I have no doubts in my mind that had there been a professional set up the above players would have had some sort of a cricketing career rather than being discards.

    PCB was never a professional setup but we still unearthed great cricketing prospects. This was largely due to Imran who once had a look at the player had a foresight to establish if the player is cut for international circuit. Once, he decided that a player can make a cut at international scene he gave them his unconditional support (Inzi, Wasim, Waqar, Mustaq, Aaqib) all were given unconditional support and were never chopped and changed. Result, they developed a good cricket career.

    The era of 2000s literally killed our future cricket as below par cricketers made up large portion of our senior team. This meant that some promising youngsters were not invested on because they threatened a prominent under par senior (example being Mansoor Amjad never got a chance because he was a threat to Afridi).

    This era continued till 2010s where by now (under Misbah) most of the team consisted of seniors only. Due to result of player power, youngsters threatening seniors, incompetent board, etc all these factors compiled and the result is where the team currently stands at. At the moment, Pakistan is not a force in the cricket world to reckon with but is a team that HOPES for a miracle from one of their players everytime they step on the field.

    Umar Amin had been one of the most mistreated batsman in our current domestic set up. But by now my major concern is that we don't churn up another Amin, so for that not to happen drastic steps and professionalism would have to be inbuilt into PCB at the earliest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Quality knock against Saad Altaf & Syed Tauseeq Shah on a pacers friendly wicket.
    Quality k knock. The aerial shot over bowler head was fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Quality k knock. The aerial shot over bowler head was fantastic.
    He is properly the most elegent but mediocre batsman I've seen play for Pakistan. Doesn't have the temperament for international level. Played a few too many games for Pak.

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    Always backed Umar Amin.

    Class batsman with good potential, good strokeplay.

    Never given a proper chance - will deliver when given a run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Always backed Umar Amin.

    Class batsman with good potential, good strokeplay.

    Never given a proper chance - will deliver when given a run.
    I hope that was sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Always backed Umar Amin.

    Class batsman with good potential, good strokeplay.

    Never given a proper chance - will deliver when given a run.
    He failed in one ODI against NZ when he was called in from Pakistan as a last minute replacement and then played a crucial role in the T-20 win against NZ but has been discarded since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He failed in one ODI against NZ when he was called in from Pakistan as a last minute replacement and then played a crucial role in the T-20 win against NZ but has been discarded since then.
    Alongside Nawaz, Anwar Ali and Haaris Sohail, he just isn't international standard. Biggest flops under pressure.

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    Umar Amin scored 172 runs of 257 balls.

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    Pakistan needs him back in ODI squad in place of Hafeez for the WC 2019.

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    SSGCL (First innings) 376 all out in 100.4 overs: (Umar Amin 172, 257 balls, 22x4s, 2x6s against Peshawar Region.


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