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  1. #321
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    The evidence of the NCA official on July 13 will be interesting.

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    How much PCB paid Aqib to hear their fanciful narrative?

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    I am not sure what PCB is going to achieve here. My understanding is simple -

    1. If they have any exhibitable evidence that SK took money or verbally agreed to play couple of dot balls - he is gone for 2 years, at least; regardless of how much he accepted or if he had played those dots as per merit or not, or his intention changed after accepting the 'deal'. I don't know what these experts are trying to prove in their testimony by validating the merit of batting against those 2 balls - his act (taking money/agreeing for a spot fixing) is more important than his final intention.

    2. If they don't have any exhibitable evidence - whatever these experts say, SK would get away with. If they can't prove something with evidence, don't think SK will let them free passage to ban him, because some Dean Jones, MoYo or Aquib Javed thought that he purposefully played those dots.

    May be for circumstantial evidence (in this case, may be not reporting in due time), both parties (SK & PCB) can come up to a middle point - PCB giving him a clean chit with 6 months ban (already served), 5/10 years suspended ban (applicable for any such further issues in next 5/10 years) & monitory fines/demotion in central contract - on top of that SK might agree to throw some bones to PCB officials as token of good gesture - tokens like Patek Philippe watch, iMac pro, designer hand made suite, family travel package to Bali or Maldwips in 5 star accommodation with 1st class air ticket, casino pass ....... sky is the limit for innovation in this regard. But, without exhibitable proof, PCB won't be able to ban SK or do some significant damage to his career.

    What I feel is, SK has done something wrong, for which PCB doesn't have concrete proof, but they have blown the trumpet too early & out of proportion - now got their tail caught between SK & ICC. Sharjeel will fight till end if they try to finish his career while after so much hue & cry - PCB has to answer ICC ACU, if they are to give SK a clean chit. These testimonies are probably to convince ICC, more than anything else. I do expect SK to play against SRL & PCB is building their story to cover for ICC.

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    No,no,no this is utmost utmost stupidity,you can't just make a story up and then project it,If someone did do anything shady it was Latif

    My take,Sharjeel and Latif went to go somewhere but Latif was going to meet the bookie and took Sharjeel with him,Latif had different grips in his kit bag and was going to Fix the match but he didn't make the final 11,Therefore he asked Sharjeel to Play the 2 dot balls,Sharjeel did or didn't play them dot balls but Latif made the original deal,this is how it went to the PCB and Sharjeel was involved but was too frightened or under pressure to expose Latif.

    All this was done to set Sharjeel up and it wasn't his fault,PCB have no evidence and should drop the case or give Sharjeel a 2-6 month ban for not reporting the incident

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I am not sure what PCB is going to achieve here. My understanding is simple -

    1. If they have any exhibitable evidence that SK took money or verbally agreed to play couple of dot balls - he is gone for 2 years, at least; regardless of how much he accepted or if he had played those dots as per merit or not, or his intention changed after accepting the 'deal'. I don't know what these experts are trying to prove in their testimony by validating the merit of batting against those 2 balls - his act (taking money/agreeing for a spot fixing) is more important than his final intention.

    2. If they don't have any exhibitable evidence - whatever these experts say, SK would get away with. If they can't prove something with evidence, don't think SK will let them free passage to ban him, because some Dean Jones, MoYo or Aquib Javed thought that he purposefully played those dots.

    May be for circumstantial evidence (in this case, may be not reporting in due time), both parties (SK & PCB) can come up to a middle point - PCB giving him a clean chit with 6 months ban (already served), 5/10 years suspended ban (applicable for any such further issues in next 5/10 years) & monitory fines/demotion in central contract - on top of that SK might agree to throw some bones to PCB officials as token of good gesture - tokens like Patek Philippe watch, iMac pro, designer hand made suite, family travel package to Bali or Maldwips in 5 star accommodation with 1st class air ticket, casino pass ....... sky is the limit for innovation in this regard. But, without exhibitable proof, PCB won't be able to ban SK or do some significant damage to his career.

    What I feel is, SK has done something wrong, for which PCB doesn't have concrete proof, but they have blown the trumpet too early & out of proportion - now got their tail caught between SK & ICC. Sharjeel will fight till end if they try to finish his career while after so much hue & cry - PCB has to answer ICC ACU, if they are to give SK a clean chit. These testimonies are probably to convince ICC, more than anything else. I do expect SK to play against SRL & PCB is building their story to cover for ICC.


    I do hope your right

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    Either way I think this could go to the court of arbitration if the players are found guilty because of testimony given by AJ.

    They should just supply the proof and move on, and yet...


    "When You Have Eliminated The Impossible, Whatever Remains, However Improbable, Must Be The Truth!

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    @MMHS incompetent pcb would describe the whole scenario...or incompetent sethi an shahryar khan ..

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    The fact that even Aqib, the person who PCB called themselves to testify, wasn't shown the actual evidence and only told a story makes me feel that they don't really have that strong a case.

    Where is the proof?

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    I thought this Aqib Javed testimony would add something but it's also as good as saying nothing.

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    Lol can this whole episode just end already? I get the feeling that Sharjeel is innocent and the whole process is just being dragged on for too long, this looks like a failed case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    Lol can this whole episode just end already? I get the feeling that Sharjeel is innocent and the whole process is just being dragged on for too long, this looks like a failed case.
    Never doubt the stupidity of the PCB in setting the standard of absurdity.

    I can still see something big coming out of this, judging by the PCB lawyer's remark. Seems like someone will get a heavy ban no matter what.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    The fact that even Aqib, the person who PCB called themselves to testify, wasn't shown the actual evidence and only told a story makes me feel that they don't really have that strong a case.

    Where is the proof?
    +1. I don't know why PCB lawyer is rejoicing the testament of Aqib Javed when he has clearly said he was not shown any evidence of the fixing by PCB.

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    It sounds like Pcb don't have a smoking gun, and are now trying to move away from cold facts and instead play on emotion by using Aaqib.

    If the lads are found not guilty then Sethi and uncle Sherry's heads must roll.

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    They should have just banned them both right there and then as soon as they caught them and after they allegedly admitted guilt and were on their way home. Now it's become too drawn out and messy with sleazy lawyers like Latifs involved. Definitely seems like the PCB doesn't have enough evidence to actually prove it in a court of law (or even before their own appointed panel by the looks of it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacattakk View Post
    They should have just banned them both right there and then as soon as they caught them and after they allegedly admitted guilt and were on their way home. Now it's become too drawn out and messy with sleazy lawyers like Latifs involved. Definitely seems like the PCB doesn't have enough evidence to actually prove it in a court of law (or even before their own appointed panel by the looks of it)
    How could the PCB have banned them without proof? This is not some washed up cricketer we are talking about. Sharjeel was a main-stay in this team. He knows he will still be the first name on the team sheet once he is let off. He will fight this till the end.

    PCB were trying to be over smart and pressurize both Sharjeel and Latif into admitting whatever they did (or didnt do). That plan backfired horribly and now they are sitting ducks desperately trying to save themselves the embarrassment by drawing this out. I highly they have any proof besides a few Whatsapp messages lol.

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    I am starting to believe PCB has a balloon full of hot air as evidence.

    We will never know for sure whether the accused are guilty or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    How could the PCB have banned them without proof? This is not some washed up cricketer we are talking about. Sharjeel was a main-stay in this team. He knows he will still be the first name on the team sheet once he is let off. He will fight this till the end.

    PCB were trying to be over smart and pressurize both Sharjeel and Latif into admitting whatever they did (or didnt do). That plan backfired horribly and now they are sitting ducks desperately trying to save themselves the embarrassment by drawing this out. I highly they have any proof besides a few Whatsapp messages lol.
    My point was that if they really had "caught them red-handed" and the players really had "admitted their guilt" as was claimed by Sethi and co, then they should have had a summary judgement and banned them outright, not just from the PSL.

    Now over time it seems increasingly likely that the PCB don't have enough evidence to convict, and the longer it gets dragged out the worse. By this point the players also are feeling they can get away with it. Overall this whole affair has been poorly managed.

    Personally I have little doubt that they were involved with bookies in some way or the other, and feel there should be a zero tolerance policy. Don't really care how big a player you are, that sort of thinking is what let all of that shady business happen during the 90s. But now it seems like they will get away with minor bans at the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacattakk View Post
    My point was that if they really had "caught them red-handed" and the players really had "admitted their guilt" as was claimed by Sethi and co, then they should have had a summary judgement and banned them outright, not just from the PSL.

    Now over time it seems increasingly likely that the PCB don't have enough evidence to convict, and the longer it gets dragged out the worse. By this point the players also are feeling they can get away with it. Overall this whole affair has been poorly managed.

    Personally I have little doubt that they were involved with bookies in some way or the other, and feel there should be a zero tolerance policy. Don't really care how big a player you are, that sort of thinking is what let all of that shady business happen during the 90s. But now it seems like they will get away with minor bans at the most.
    Sethi is a proven liar and has been caught multiple times lying. First he was caught by Tax department of Pakistan of lying about having no property in USA. Then he was caught lying about that KP not attending PSL2 final in Lahore because of Imran Khan.

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    I wonder how much aquib got paid by pcb to be invited as an "expert witness". This witness basically said nothing. How stupid is this. Pcb really have no case after this. Also goes on to show someone like aquib is corrupt. So much for removing corruption from cricket, yet he comes on pcb's invite (bribe) to be as an expert witness.

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    They have no evidence and no confessions. Sethi is an idiot and acted in haste to prove to the world that the PSL has a great anti-corruption unit.

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    They should've just got Saleem Malik, with Ata-ur-Rehman in tow to act as "expert witnesses".

    This charade would at least be funny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    I wonder how much aquib got paid by pcb to be invited as an "expert witness". This witness basically said nothing. How stupid is this. Pcb really have no case after this. Also goes on to show someone like aquib is corrupt. So much for removing corruption from cricket, yet he comes on pcb's invite (bribe) to be as an expert witness.
    I take my post back. I didn't read the article properly and thought Aquib provided a pro-PCB statement based on their story only.

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