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    Chelsea look like making 2 good signings. United have been a bit quite.

    As always it looks like a slow summer for us gunners.

    Interesting to see where Marco Verratti, Fabinho, James Rodriguez, Douglas Costa, and Zlatan end up.

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    If Arsenal sign Mbappe

    I will be A overjoyed

    B - stunned

    C- Change my Profile Pic to Arsene Wenger for the rest of my time here


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    If Arsenal sign Mbappe

    I will be A overjoyed

    B - stunned

    C- Change my Profile Pic to Arsene Wenger for the rest of my time here
    Strongly doubt the youngster will agree to settle for such a downgrade in clubs.
    After all, when was the last time Arsenal reached the Champions League semi-final?


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    Liverpool are seriously interested in Alex Ox Chamberlain and Naby Keita. We're looking at £100 million combined transfer fee here if we do sign them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad10 View Post
    Strongly doubt the youngster will agree to settle for such a downgrade in clubs.
    After all, when was the last time Arsenal reached the Champions League semi-final?

    One thing you should know about transfers is no club bids for a player if the player or agent has shown some sort of interest in joining.

    Unlikely that the deal will happen anyway but don't act as though Mbappé isn't interested in Arsenal at all.

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    Want to know what @MMHS thinks of Lemar and Lacazuette potentially joining Arsenal.

    Liverpool not showing any signs of going big in the transfer market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Want to know what @MMHS thinks of Lemar and Lacazuette potentially joining Arsenal.

    Liverpool not showing any signs of going big in the transfer market.
    I don't see how Lemar and Lacazette will both join Arsenal, Arsenal aren't great at wrapping up deals quickly and signing 2-3 big money players can be difficult for them at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    One thing you should know about transfers is no club bids for a player if the player or agent has shown some sort of interest in joining.

    Unlikely that the deal will happen anyway but don't act as though Mbappé isn't interested in Arsenal at all.
    Dont think its Arsenal he is interested rather Wenger ( though someone can reasonably aruge that Wenger is Arsenal)

    As dissapointing as his last few years, he is still regarded as Living Legend by many especially young French players


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Want to know what @MMHS thinks of Lemar and Lacazuette potentially joining Arsenal.

    Liverpool not showing any signs of going big in the transfer market.
    Think both are likely to happen

    Lemar I am quite sure off, it's just the usual Arsenal pessimism that's getting in the way. The only other thing is Wenger not wanting to dissapoint the OX, but given Ramsey/Santi injury records, Wilshere probably leaving and Xhaka wanting to beat up people, there will be need for another midfielder

    Lacazette I think is the failsafe for failing to get Mbappe


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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I don't see how Lemar and Lacazette will both join Arsenal, Arsenal aren't great at wrapping up deals quickly and signing 2-3 big money players can be difficult for them at times.

    Lemar is closing to joining.

    Won't believe the lacazuette deal till it happens. Wenger could have signed him years ago for less then what is being reported now. So I'll wait till its done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    Dont think its Arsenal he is interested rather Wenger ( though someone can reasonably aruge that Wenger is Arsenal)

    As dissapointing as his last few years, he is still regarded as Living Legend by many especially young French players
    Henry was one of his favourite players so he will have some interest in Arsenal.

    Yes wenger is still rated highly in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Want to know what @MMHS thinks of Lemar and Lacazuette potentially joining Arsenal.

    Liverpool not showing any signs of going big in the transfer market.
    Lecazzette isn't comfortable in Klopp's system. He plays as the CF or as the tip of a 4231 system at Lyon, but Klopp plays interchanging forwards in 433 system or 4141 system with a false 9. Also, Klopp's forwards must have to track back to snatch the lost ball. Either way, Lecazzette isn't comfortable, because he was a failure for France as an winger & he wants to play as the target man, rather than a running forward who'll move up & down with the ball. The best forward for Klopp's system is Peiere Aubamyang - if it wasn't 63mn BP for a forward turning 29 come June, Auba would have been at Anfield. Lecazzette should be phenomenal at Emeritus - he is a similar player like Henry, who was also moved to centre from wings (at Monaco & at Juve). L'zzeete is equally as fast with or without ball & ambidextrous shooter, on top of that he is better in air than Henry. But, Henry had outstanding position sense & wonderful first touch, which allowed him to move to a shooting position at first touch & his shooting skill on run or volley was as good as like Van Basten - Lecazzette would justify his price tag, even if he becomes half the player Henry was at his prime.

    More than Arsenal, Lemar needs needs Wenger desperately - he has every bit of skills to become the next Robert Pires, on top of that, he is faster & stronger. Also, he is the perfect type of player for EPL - fast, strong but skillful. If Sanches doesn't leave Arsenal will have the best attacking 4 in a 4231 system -

    Sanches Ozil Lemar
    Lecazzette

    Wengar just need to spend another 50mn to bring a bit of steel for partnering Xhaka/Cazorla/Ramsey - may be Matuidi, Bakayoko or Kongdogbia. He should off load those 4 high earning English players (Welbeck, Alex Ox, Walcot & Wilshire), but that'll stress his Home Grown quota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Lecazzette isn't comfortable in Klopp's system. He plays as the CF or as the tip of a 4231 system at Lyon, but Klopp plays interchanging forwards in 433 system or 4141 system with a false 9. Also, Klopp's forwards must have to track back to snatch the lost ball. Either way, Lecazzette isn't comfortable, because he was a failure for France as an winger & he wants to play as the target man, rather than a running forward who'll move up & down with the ball. The best forward for Klopp's system is Peiere Aubamyang - if it wasn't 63mn BP for a forward turning 29 come June, Auba would have been at Anfield. Lecazzette should be phenomenal at Emeritus - he is a similar player like Henry, who was also moved to centre from wings (at Monaco & at Juve). L'zzeete is equally as fast with or without ball & ambidextrous shooter, on top of that he is better in air than Henry. But, Henry had outstanding position sense & wonderful first touch, which allowed him to move to a shooting position at first touch & his shooting skill on run or volley was as good as like Van Basten - Lecazzette would justify his price tag, even if he becomes half the player Henry was at his prime.

    More than Arsenal, Lemar needs needs Wenger desperately - he has every bit of skills to become the next Robert Pires, on top of that, he is faster & stronger. Also, he is the perfect type of player for EPL - fast, strong but skillful. If Sanches doesn't leave Arsenal will have the best attacking 4 in a 4231 system -

    Sanches Ozil Lemar
    Lecazzette

    Wengar just need to spend another 50mn to bring a bit of steel for partnering Xhaka/Cazorla/Ramsey - may be Matuidi, Bakayoko or Kongdogbia. He should off load those 4 high earning English players (Welbeck, Alex Ox, Walcot & Wilshire), but that'll stress his Home Grown quota.

    I thought laca could have done a job for Liverpool but after reading that I don't see him being a success there.


    Haven't see much of Lemar but that is high praise for hIim.


    Yes I would Bakayoko, but Kondogbia is absolute rubbish. Theo and Jack can be let go, but Welbeck and Ox have a role but wouldn't be upset if they were sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lemar is closing to joining.

    Won't believe the lacazuette deal till it happens. Wenger could have signed him years ago for less then what is being reported now. So I'll wait till its done.
    Not sure about Lemar being close to joining, the Daily Mail is really the only source who are saying that the deal is close. Lacazette is an essential deal for Arsenal, I feel like it will give a massive boost to any hopes for a title next season. IIRC, Lemar scored 9 and assisted 11 last season for Monaco, scoring against Spurs in the group stages of the UCL twice and scored against PSG in the domestic cup semi final or final.

    Arsenal should play a 4-2-3-1 next season and line-up like this:

    Lacazette (ST), Sanchez (LM), Ozil (CAM), Lemar/Mahrez (RM), Xhaka/Ramsey/Ox/Matuidi ( Two CM/CDM's) Kolašinac (LB) Mustafi/Holding (CB) Koscielny (CB) Bellerin (RB) Cech (GK).
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    Reports coming out this morning are that Real Madrid President Florentino Perez has announced that there have been no talks of a deal taking place between Real Madrid and Spain striker Alvaro Morata and Manchester United. There were initials reports going round that United were close to announce that they had agreed a fee with RM regarding ST. The fee and contract were already agreed with Morata, all that was left was the total fee with Real Madrid. However inside sources are saying that the fee is currently the sticking point. Real Madrid currently want £70-75M with Manchester United bidding £65M. But the talks have seem to be progressing between the two parties and the player will be moving to Old Trafford before the pre-season tour. Some reports are suggesting that Perez is wanting more money from Manchester United for the ST, which does sound more believable.

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    New reports coming in now regarding Arsenal is that the Gunners have had bids rejected for Lacazette for Lyon and Lemar from Monaco. The two players are currently Arsenal's top targets. Lyon are wanting a bid closer to £50M and Monaco want a bid of £30M for Lemar. So far from the looks of it though both deals will happen in time but currently the first bids for the respective players have been rejected. Arsenal have been linked with Lacazette for the last three seasons with this season go for the player as for Lemar they have been heavliy linked with from the past three weeks or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Not sure about Lemar being close to joining, the Daily Mail is really the only source who are saying that the deal is close. Lacazette is an essential deal for Arsenal, I feel like it will give a massive boost to any hopes for a title next season. IIRC, Lemar scored 9 and assisted 11 last season for Monaco, scoring against Spurs in the group stages of the UCL twice and scored against PSG in the domestic cup semi final or final.

    Arsenal should play a 4-2-3-1 next season and line-up like this:

    Lacazette (ST), Sanchez (LM), Ozil (CAM), Lemar/Mahrez (RM), Xhaka/Ramsey/Ox/Matuidi ( Two CM/CDM's) Kolašinac (LB) Mustafi/Holding (CB) Koscielny (CB) Bellerin (RB) Cech (GK).

    Lemar has been reported as close by some twitter accounts who have connections with the club.

    Lacazuette would be a brilliant signing. We could interchange him with Giroud for certain games as well.

    Maybe we could play 3 at the back. Only thing is one of Ozil or Ramsey may have to be dropped. Or ozil could be sold them Ramsey could go into the number 10 role. With Matuidi or another cm with Xhaka.

    Expecting big things from Xhaka next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lemar has been reported as close by some twitter accounts who have connections with the club.

    Lacazuette would be a brilliant signing. We could interchange him with Giroud for certain games as well.

    Maybe we could play 3 at the back. Only thing is one of Ozil or Ramsey may have to be dropped. Or ozil could be sold them Ramsey could go into the number 10 role. With Matuidi or another cm with Xhaka.

    Expecting big things from Xhaka next year.
    3 at the back is decent but the problem I see with it is that Ozil is playing as a inside forward that drifts to the right sometimes (with the 3-4-3) and he really should be playing behind the striker. I feel like a 3-5-2 could work though, Sanchez and Lacazette upfront, Ozil behind them, Xhaka and Ramsey in central midfield, Kolašinac and Bellerin/Ox as wingbacks + Mustafi,Holding and Koscielny as the 3 CB's.

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    Reports coming from Italy are that Chelsea have agreed a fee for Antonio Rudiger from AS Roma. The fee was reportedly to be £33.3M with the medical and terms to be agreed within the next week. Reports initially were that AS Roma were encouraging Chelsea to make a bid for Kostas Manolas, CB from Greece who failed to show up for his medical with Zenit St Petersburg due to disagreement of wages. But from the looks of it Antonio Rudiger will be moved on with Kostas Manolas retained. Rudiger who joined AS Roma last year from VfB Stuttgart for £7.8M. Reports from Chelsea are that they are eagered to find backup option for Cesar Azpilicueta who was fantastic last season and instrumental in Chelsea's pursuit of the EPL

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    Rudiger to Chelsea is a signing that I didn't expect.

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    I think Rudiger is a very good signing because he can replace Dave, Luiz and Moses. If you watch Serie A and German International games you'd know he's a fast, ball playing defender who can play CB or RWB. A better defender than Ake and probably better than Cahill & Moses too.

    Leandro Paredes going to Zenit from Roma is disgraceful. The guy is young and has lots of potential to become one of the best box to box midfielders, however he's decided to follow the money and throw away any decent chance of a club career, much like Axel Witsel. Bit of a blessing in disguise for Manolas as he doesn't have to go to the club with backwards pathetic fans which will get him nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    3 at the back is decent but the problem I see with it is that Ozil is playing as a inside forward that drifts to the right sometimes (with the 3-4-3) and he really should be playing behind the striker. I feel like a 3-5-2 could work though, Sanchez and Lacazette upfront, Ozil behind them, Xhaka and Ramsey in central midfield, Kolašinac and Bellerin/Ox as wingbacks + Mustafi,Holding and Koscielny as the 3 CB's.
    Even if ozil plays as a cam, he doesn't stay there and ends up wide.

    3-5-2 is a good formation as it allows Xakha to get onto the ball. Also Ramsey can get forward as there is enough cover and it suits our full backs . Ozil and Sanchez literally have free roles so there defensive responsibility is reduced. Would rather go with 3-5-2 than the predictable 4-2-3-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I think Rudiger is a very good signing because he can replace Dave, Luiz and Moses. If you watch Serie A and German International games you'd know he's a fast, ball playing defender who can play CB or RWB. A better defender than Ake and probably better than Cahill & Moses too.

    Leandro Paredes going to Zenit from Roma is disgraceful. The guy is young and has lots of potential to become one of the best box to box midfielders, however he's decided to follow the money and throw away any decent chance of a club career, much like Axel Witsel. Bit of a blessing in disguise for Manolas as he doesn't have to go to the club with backwards pathetic fans which will get him nowhere.
    Manloas is better then Rudiger. But Rudiger is a good signing for Chelsea. If Chelsea can get Bakayoko and Alex Sando done and retain Costa, they will be a force next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Manloas is better then Rudiger. But Rudiger is a good signing for Chelsea. If Chelsea can get Bakayoko and Alex Sando done and retain Costa, they will be a force next season.
    Manolas is defensively better but Rudiger brings much more to the table. He can play in two positions and be a ball playing defender. Costa will probably leave to Madrid, go on loan to a different club for the transfer ban and then join them in January. Lukaku or Belotti will probably sign for us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Even if ozil plays as a cam, he doesn't stay there and ends up wide.

    3-5-2 is a good formation as it allows Xakha to get onto the ball. Also Ramsey can get forward as there is enough cover and it suits our full backs . Ozil and Sanchez literally have free roles so there defensive responsibility is reduced. Would rather go with 3-5-2 than the predictable 4-2-3-1.
    If you sign Lacazette I think he'll been the main striker, with Ozil and Sanchez around and behind him. Then Kolasniac and Bellerin/Ox will provide width with Xhaka and Ramsey/Goretzka controlling the midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Manolas is defensively better but Rudiger brings much more to the table. He can play in two positions and be a ball playing defender. Costa will probably leave to Madrid, go on loan to a different club for the transfer ban and then join them in January. Lukaku or Belotti will probably sign for us.



    If you sign Lacazette I think he'll been the main striker, with Ozil and Sanchez around and behind him. Then Kolasniac and Bellerin/Ox will provide width with Xhaka and Ramsey/Goretzka controlling the midfield.
    Liverpool are gonna make a bid of £70 million for Naby Keita according to many reports. Ox Chamberlain after rejecting Arsenal's final offer also seems to be another possible signing within the next few days. Whilst I would be pleased with these two signings it is a defender that we need to prioritise After the Van Dijk fiasco we'll most probably need to look elsewhere unless that deal can be recovered. On the outgoing front Moreno and Sakho should fetch us at least around £30 million combined upon their departure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Manolas is defensively better but Rudiger brings much more to the table. He can play in two positions and be a ball playing defender. Costa will probably leave to Madrid, go on loan to a different club for the transfer ban and then join them in January. Lukaku or Belotti will probably sign for us.



    If you sign Lacazette I think he'll been the main striker, with Ozil and Sanchez around and behind him. Then Kolasniac and Bellerin/Ox will provide width with Xhaka and Ramsey/Goretzka controlling the midfield.

    Not sure if Lukaku is the right signing for Chelsea. Would much rather have Costa.


    Laca will definitely be the main striker. He gives Ozil a runner as well. Not sure we'll get Goreztka if Bayern are interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Not sure if Lukaku is the right signing for Chelsea. Would much rather have Costa.


    Laca will definitely be the main striker. He gives Ozil a runner as well. Not sure we'll get Goreztka if Bayern are interested.
    Yeah I'd rather have Belotti or Costa than Lukaku too.

    Goretzka is definitely not going to Bayern, they have Kimmich, Vidal, Thiago, Sanches, Alaba and Tolisso who can all play in midfield why would he want to go there?

    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Liverpool are gonna make a bid of £70 million for Naby Keita according to many reports. Ox Chamberlain after rejecting Arsenal's final offer also seems to be another possible signing within the next few days. Whilst I would be pleased with these two signings it is a defender that we need to prioritise After the Van Dijk fiasco we'll most probably need to look elsewhere unless that deal can be recovered. On the outgoing front Moreno and Sakho should fetch us at least around £30 million combined upon their departure.
    Liverpool need a LB more than a CB imo. Ox and Keita would make Liverpools team much better though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Yeah I'd rather have Belotti or Costa than Lukaku too.

    Goretzka is definitely not going to Bayern, they have Kimmich, Vidal, Thiago, Sanches, Alaba and Tolisso who can all play in midfield why would he want to go there?



    Liverpool need a LB more than a CB imo. Ox and Keita would make Liverpools team much better though.

    Goretzka Is definitely off to Bayern otherwise there would be more noise. Renato is leaving, Vidal is getting older and Thiago is Guardiolas pet, I see him at city. This whole situation reminds me of lewandowski's last year at Dortmund

    Shame because Goretzka would be a amazing for Arsenal , he is like a bigger and faster Ramsey with vastly superior technical skills


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    New reports coming out today from Spain and from Manchester United is that Alvaro Morata will become a United player by end of the week. Reports suggest that Manchester have made an offer of £66M which will be accepted by Real Madrid as currently Morata is pushing through a move. Ander Herrera and Juan Mata have been reported to play a part in getting Morata to come to Old Trafford alongside Jose Mourinho. Now sticking with Spain there are reports that James Rodriguez has given Real Madrid an ultimatum about a transfer move, reportedly RM do want to sell him but for not anything less than £60M. Manchester United have been reported to have bid £40M which will likely rise to £50M, but it will be interesting to see whether they bump the offer again, either way James coming will likely spell the end for Wayne Rooney's Manchester United career. It may also affect Juan Mata career as he has currently only 12 months left on his current contract with no sign yet whether United will be renewing it. By the end of the following week Nemanja Matic will also become a United player with a fee reportedly worth £35M which I think is alot for the 28 year old. Now this deal will not in anyway deter United's pursuit of getting Fabinho as he is the No.1 target in the CDM role. With a offer of £35-40M already lined up. Now the player himself has come out and said he would be tempted to move to United so this deal could also be going through very soon.

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    Sky sources:

    Manchester United have agreed a £75m fee with Everton to sign striker Romelu Lukaku.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A.A.Z View Post
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    Manchester United have agreed a £75m fee with Everton to sign striker Romelu Lukaku.
    Hmmm...not quite sure how to feel about this one. Club is also briefing that Morata interest is subsequently over.

    Between Morata and Lukaku, I think Lukaku probably has the potential to be a Mourinho type striker more. He has the raw physicality that Jose likes to have. Premier league proven, settled in the North-West. Good friends with Pogba

    Morata on the other hand, who doesn't quite have the strength and power of Lukaku, is probably the better all round player. Would also give us the option on streching teams, as he has overall better movement of Lukaku, and can play off the shoulder - Lukaku comes deep a lot of the time to receive the ball, and is tends to be static when left up top. Morata also a player that could allow an interchanging front three.

    I guess Jose knows what he wants to build his team. But still....I will come back to the idea that the way this has worked has shown a visible lack of direction. Our targets up front have been Griezmann, Morata and Lukaku. I don't care what Woodward has briefed to journalists - there was never an intention to sign Griezmann as a 10. He does not play there, and Mourinho would not have played two strikers.

    They are all different players, who bring different skill sets to a team. Instead of having a clear plan, with a stated direction of how we will play, the idea seems to sign the biggest/best player available.

    In any case, deal is not done yet. Chelsea still want the player, and were clearly his preferred choice anyway. They can match the agreed fee, and get involved.

    Also would not surprise me to see this as a ploy to get Madrid to budge on the Morata fee, and Chelsea to pay up for Lukaku.

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    No confirmed transfers whatsoever for Chelsea other than a backup GK. Frustrating because Bakayoko and Rudiger have been reported to have done their medicals and nothing has been announced by the club at all.

    @pakistanigoneaussie Shalke have said they aren't even willing to sell, especially to a club like Bayern though a big bid might tempt them as he has only 1 year left on his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    No confirmed transfers whatsoever for Chelsea other than a backup GK. Frustrating because Bakayoko and Rudiger have been reported to have done their medicals and nothing has been announced by the club at all.

    @pakistanigoneaussie Shalke have said they aren't even willing to sell, especially to a club like Bayern though a big bid might tempt them as he has only 1 year left on his contract.

    Chelsea are probably waiting for the Nike kit launch to announce new players

    Also don't see arsenal forking out the cash for goretzka

    I reckon Wenger is looking to spend the bulk of his remaining budget to get Lamar or failing that Mahrez, before spending cash on a lower profile midfielder.

    We definitely need someone, especially as Santi will be out for another 6 months and Wilshire is always injured. The issue is the best prospects would want guaranteed playing time due to a WC coming up.

    I think most likely arsenal will get some random like Pablo Fornals or the Russian kid whose name I always forget


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    New reports just coming out this afternoon is that Arsenal have made a second bid for AS Monaco winger Thomas Lemar. The bid is reported to be £40M, according to sources AS Monaco don't want the star player to go but the player himself wants to and there asking price for the midfielder has been met. Arsenal representives are confident that the deal will go through.

    Now going to my club Manchester United, reports coming today are that Alvaro Morata is still a transfer target for the Red Devils and will be joining Manchester United by the beginning of next week. Manchester United are confident this deal will go through with the player himself with his father and agent willing to force a move. Real Madrid and Zidane don't want to lose the player but can't guarantee him playing time. Now sticking with Manchester new reports from this morning are that Wayne Rooney deal to move back to Everton is still in the early stages with the stumbling being the wages. Now Wayne is prepared to take a wage cut but not much. Wayne would love to return to his boyhood club and the management would love to see him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    Chelsea are probably waiting for the Nike kit launch to announce new players

    Also don't see arsenal forking out the cash for goretzka

    I reckon Wenger is looking to spend the bulk of his remaining budget to get Lamar or failing that Mahrez, before spending cash on a lower profile midfielder.

    We definitely need someone, especially as Santi will be out for another 6 months and Wilshire is always injured. The issue is the best prospects would want guaranteed playing time due to a WC coming up.

    I think most likely arsenal will get some random like Pablo Fornals or the Russian kid whose name I always forget
    Not sure what you mean by Nike kit launch, we've already shown off our main kits and have already signed a player, I don't see what's stopping Chelsea from announcing a signing.

    Pablo Fornals is a good prospect but they need a top class player like Goretzka to fill that role because Arsenal need to challenge for the title.

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    Well reports this morning are confirming what I said yesterday. United have reached an agreement with Everton regarding the sale of Romelu Lukaku. The fee is reported to have an increase of 100M, the 10M increase is due for Wayne Rooney. The feel is that the player has agreed a fee and a medical has been completed. It should be announced later on today

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    Rudiger finally has signed for an initial fee of £29m. Need Belotti/Morata, Bakayoko, Sandro and Rodriguez to give us a good chance at retaining the title.

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    Can't believe Manchester United paid £90 million for Lukaku.

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    Reports coming in that Mourinho is now outbidding Chelsea for Bakayoko.

    Conte must be devastated if this happens.

    However it looks like Dier is still Mourinhos no.1 target for this position, Matic is out of the question now and it looks unlikely Tottenham will sell Dier, so it will probably come down to the highest bid for Bakayoko.


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    BREAKING: @FCBayern agree two-year loan deal for @Jamesdrodriguez to join from @realmadrid. #SSNHQ


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    Quote Originally Posted by PetroDollars View Post
    Reports coming in that Mourinho is now outbidding Chelsea for Bakayoko.

    Conte must be devastated if this happens.

    However it looks like Dier is still Mourinhos no.1 target for this position, Matic is out of the question now and it looks unlikely Tottenham will sell Dier, so it will probably come down to the highest bid for Bakayoko.
    Bakayoko medical is happening soon at Chelsea. Manchester United will probably get Fabinho or Dier.

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    Unexpected that James was loaned out to Bayern,albeit with the option of buying.

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    Didn't expect James to join Bayern. Gives them a lot of depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I don't see how Lemar and Lacazette will both join Arsenal, Arsenal aren't great at wrapping up deals quickly and signing 2-3 big money players can be difficult for them at times.
    They're not mentally ready to win the league; they're not mentally ready to sign big players

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    Since Lukaku got usurped, Chelsea are unlikely to sell Matic to us. I would prefer Fabinho anyway.

    I DO NOT WANT PERISIC, WHY ARE WE PAYING £40M+ FOR AN AVERAGE, AGED, PLAYER?

    Happy with business so far - a tad annoyed that all our signing weren't finalised before the tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    They're not mentally ready to win the league; they're not mentally ready to sign big players
    Apparently Arsenal are desperate to sign Lemar and they are ready to pay £40m for him and possibly 5-10m more which is very unlike them. They'll definitely be proving me wrong if they end up getting him.

    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    Since Lukaku got usurped, Chelsea are unlikely to sell Matic to us. I would prefer Fabinho anyway.

    I DO NOT WANT PERISIC, WHY ARE WE PAYING £40M+ FOR AN AVERAGE, AGED, PLAYER?

    Happy with business so far - a tad annoyed that all our signing weren't finalised before the tour.
    Average player? I watched Euro 2016 and 16-17 Serie A and he's clearly better than anyone United have. Seriously you United fans act like you still have the likes of Ronaldo and Best at the club waiting in the wings.

    I don't see how he's "aged" when Henrikh M and Herrera are around the same age as him.

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    Manchester City agree £50m-plus deal to sign Kyle Walker from Tottenham

    Kyle Walker is poised to become the world’s most expensive defender and the costliest English player of all time, after Tottenham Hotspur accepted a bid worth £53m for him from Manchester City. The package includes £3m of add-ons and takes him beyond David Luiz on the list of defenders and above Raheem Sterling in terms of players from England.

    David Luiz cost £50m when he moved from Chelsea to Paris St-Germain in 2014 and City paid £49m to Liverpool, including add-ons, for Sterling in 2015.

    Walker’s move has been heavily trailed, with Pep Guardiola, the City manager, having prioritised the signing of full-backs this summer and making the England international his No1 target at right-back.

    The negotiations have been protracted, with Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman, feeling empowered to drive the hardest of bargains. Walker was the best right-back in England last season, according to the Professional Footballers’ Association, which named him in its team of the year, and, at 27, he is not only highly experienced in the Premier League but about to enter his prime.

    Levy wanted the basic figure of £50m and City were reluctant to go above £40m but, in the end, they paid up to break the deadlock. They had missed out on Dani Alves, another right-back target, earlier in the week – the Brazilian has gone to PSG, having left Juventus as a free agent – and time is ticking down to their pre-season tour of the United States.

    Tottenham are also touring there and they will face City in Nashville on 29 July, raising the prospect of an early reunion for Walker with his former employer. Walker travelled to Manchester on Thursday afternoon and he will undertake his City medical on Friday.

    Mauricio Pochettino knows that he needs to generate funds in order to make signings to bolster the depth of his Tottenham squad and he came to consider the sale of Walker as the best way to do so. The manager has faith in Kieran Trippier, who has been Walker’s understudy, and it was significant that he preferred him to Walker towards the end of last season in the FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea and the league fixtures against Arsenal and Manchester United.

    City are in talks with West Ham United over the loan of the England goalkeeper Joe Hart, with the London club confident they will soon be able to announce the deal. City have also signed Bernardo Silva for £43.6m from Monaco and Ederson for £34.7m from Benfica. Tottenham have yet to make a summer signing.

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football...lker-tottenham
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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Apparently Arsenal are desperate to sign Lemar and they are ready to pay £40m for him and possibly 5-10m more which is very unlike them. They'll definitely be proving me wrong if they end up getting him.



    Average player? I watched Euro 2016 and 16-17 Serie A and he's clearly better than anyone United have. Seriously you United fans act like you still have the likes of Ronaldo and Best at the club waiting in the wings.

    I don't see how he's "aged" when Henrikh M and Herrera are around the same age as him.
    He's not a £45m+ player, that's the bottom line. I agree Herrera and MKhi are both 27/28, and so is Perisic but to me if you add another £15m and get a better player. Even Aubameyang - £60m would probably get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    He's not a £45m+ player, that's the bottom line. I agree Herrera and MKhi are both 27/28, and so is Perisic but to me if you add another £15m and get a better player. Even Aubameyang - £60m would probably get him.
    Yes he isn't but Lukaku isn't worth £75m, and Lindelof isn't worth £31m. It's an inflated market and you're being harsh on Perisic here.

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    Lenardo Bonucci joining AC Milan has to be the most suprising deal of the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lenardo Bonucci joining AC Milan has to be the most suprising deal of the summer.
    Amazing stuff by Milan but there must have been a big rift between Bonucci and Allegri for the deal to be done so quickly after the rumours started.

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    Milan is on fire thi summer. Might well be a contender for CL in the coming seasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Amazing stuff by Milan but there must have been a big rift between Bonucci and Allegri for the deal to be done so quickly after the rumours started.
    The rumoured rift between Bonucci and Allegri is probably the main reason why Bonnuci has left but still an amazing signing for Millan. Rumours of Aubameyang joining as well, Millan will surely compete for the tittle this year.

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    So city spending £100m on new full backs in one window

    Few years ago who would've thought that could happen


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    Bakayoko is a high quality signing. He's a better player than Matic. Be interesting to see who Chelsea replace Costa with.

    Were in for a competitive premier league title race that's for certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Bakayoko is a high quality signing. He's a better player than Matic. Be interesting to see who Chelsea replace Costa with.

    Were in for a competitive premier league title race that's for certain.
    I havnt seen much of Bakayoko but from what i hear, his performances where carried by Fabinhno.

    Either way he is a big gamble, he has only had one good season in a poor league and EPL will be alien to him. Matic is a proven player in EPL and it wasn't an area they needed improvement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PetroDollars View Post
    I havnt seen much of Bakayoko but from what i hear, his performances where carried by Fabinhno.

    Either way he is a big gamble, he has only had one good season in a poor league and EPL will be alien to him. Matic is a proven player in EPL and it wasn't an area they needed improvement.

    Bakayoko potential is much higher than Matics. Ideally Chelsea would keep Matic and ease Bakayoko in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Yes he isn't but Lukaku isn't worth £75m, and Lindelof isn't worth £31m. It's an inflated market and you're being harsh on Perisic here.
    Man Utd being charged way more than they should for targets. It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    Man Utd being charged way more than they should for targets. It is what it is.
    Well of course they will be charged more when they play in a league where Sunderland get more money in prize money and TV deals than Madrid. Clubs are not ignoring the absurds amount of money PL teams have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    The rumoured rift between Bonucci and Allegri is probably the main reason why Bonnuci has left but still an amazing signing for Millan. Rumours of Aubameyang joining as well, Millan will surely compete for the tittle this year.
    Yeah there are significant reports saying that both Chelsea and Milan want one of Aubameyang, Belotti and Morata with the asking prices ranging from £70-80m. Ridiculous stuff and I'm worried about the striker situation right now at Chelsea.



    Quote Originally Posted by PetroDollars View Post
    I havnt seen much of Bakayoko but from what i hear, his performances where carried by Fabinhno.

    Either way he is a big gamble, he has only had one good season in a poor league and EPL will be alien to him. Matic is a proven player in EPL and it wasn't an area they needed improvement.
    Champions League team of the season, most interceptions per game in the UCL and most tackles, interceptions and take-ons in Ligue 1. Definitely carried by Fabinho, if you don't know anything don't bother spouting rubbish.

    Honestly if you think Fabinho carries Bakayoko how can you not think that Kante doesn't carry Matic when Matic makes much less of a defensive contribution than Bakayoko does? He's slow, not as good as he was in 14-15 and was terrible in some big games like the Arsenal,United and Tottenham games. Upgrade for sure and is 7 years younger.

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    Bakayoko looked average in the games against Juve but so did the rest of that Monaco side that's coveted by most of Europe.

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    NEYMAR 'ACCEPTS PSG OFFER'

    Hold on to your hats, this is a big one.

    According to reports in Brazil, Neymar has accepted an offer to join Paris Saint-German.

    The French club have reportedly triggered Neymar’s £195m release clause and Brazilian TV channel Esporte Interativo claim the forward has agreed terms on a contract.

    They say an announcement could come in the next few weeks.

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    Arsenal quiet as always they might drop out of top 6 next season

    Crystal Palace to watch out next season


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    Arsenal quiet as always they might drop out of top 6 next season

    Crystal Palace to watch out next season
    Arsenal should sell one Gabriel and Debuchy and buy Manolas from Roma, he's a class CB and his deal to Zenit fell through thankfully. Lemar is a hard deal for Arsenal because Monaco really don't want to sell and have raised the price from an alleged £40m to £60m. If Arsenal get them two and keep Sanchez, they'll be solid next season.

    @PetroDollars interested to hear your thoughts on Morata going to Chelsea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post

    @PetroDollars interested to hear your thoughts on Morata going to Chelsea.
    With Auba staying put at Dortmund and Belloti having an £87m buyout clause, it looks like he was the only option left. Conte has been a complete failure in the transfer market and for Morata to succeed he will probably have to change the system as he is nothing like Costa.


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    West Ham agree Hernandez fee

    Source: http://www.skysports.com/share/10955422

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetroDollars View Post
    With Auba staying put at Dortmund and Belloti having an £87m buyout clause, it looks like he was the only option left. Conte has been a complete failure in the transfer market and for Morata to succeed he will probably have to change the system as he is nothing like Costa.
    Conte doesn't control transfers, his role is basically of a glorified head coach, he has no say on the final decision unfortunately he can just suggest targets.

    It's the reason he left Bari and Juventus because he wasn't allowed to do anything in the market and the clubs struggled to sign players.

    I feel like Morata will change the way we play somewhat because he's better in the air, is faster and is a better dribbler, but less of a bully and workhorse like Costa. Excited to see him sign and I think in the current market £58m is a good price for a player that scored 14 goals and got 5 assists in 15 La Liga games, winning Madrid 13 points!

    If we sign Sandro, Llorente, Danilo and another midfielder, we'll be sorted as we've already signed Rudiger, Cabellero, Bakayoko and Morata. Though it's hard to see it happening with how inconsistent boards are with transfers these days.

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    With players like Pedro and Hazard playing behind him, Chelsea have the option of playing a roving front three now with Morata. Lukaku would not have given them the same flexibility. The midfield trio also look pretty good. Kante as the 6, sweeping up and offering defensive solidity, Bakayoko as an 8, who can be box-to-box, offer physicality on both ends of the field, and Fabregas as a creative player - albeit deeper lying. If they can get two flying wing backs to offer them serious pace and width (tbh the City pair of Mendy and Walker would have been ideal), Chelsea would be a real force.

    Other thing that will be interesting is the moving dynamics of football finances. Look at Monaco, they built an exciting team and won the league. But their league winning compensation account for a small fraction of their incoming finances. They have just cashed in so much money from player sales, its unbelievable. Especially given that the players they have sold will have very little book value. Take Mbappe - when they sell him, and they will, they can feasibly get EUR 150m at least. They book value will be next to nothing in comparison given that he came through the youth team, and is still on 'reasonable' wages. That kind of profit can't be realised any other way as far as I know.

    Even if Monaco won the CL - will they be able to realise the same benefits (prize money, marketing, etc) as a club like Madrid or Manchester United do? I doubt it. They would have to do it a number of times over to build a similar brand, and reap the same rewards. That's very not only difficult to achieve and a long-term plan. Much easier to simply sell Mbappe.

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    As a Barca fan I'm fine with Neymar leaving.

    Despite all the oohs aahs he lacks the final product and seems to be going backwards not forwards.

    His goal production has dropped three years in a row and he routinely screws up chances that Messi creates.

    222M for a dude who scored 20 goals last season is a win for Barca.

    I just hope that we spend wisely.

    If we can land Coutinho and Dybala with that money we will come out ahead.

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    Managers put the names they want, but it's up to others to actually make the deal. For example Jose wants more signings but it's out of his hands as Ed Woodward has to do that part.

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    Liverpool reject £72m Barcelona bid for Philippe Coutinho: ‘we aren’t a selling club’

    Jürgen Klopp has said Liverpool are not a selling club after rejecting an €80m (£72m) bid from Barcelona for Philippe Coutinho. Liverpool are adamant the Brazilian playmaker will stay at Anfield irrespective of a higher bid from the Spanish club.

    Barcelona have been heavily linked with the 25-year-old since the turn of the year but their opening offer was immediately rejected by Liverpool, who insist Coutinho is not for sale at any price. He signed a new five-year contract at Anfield only last season.

    Coutinho’s latest contract, worth around £150,000 a week, does not contain a release clause but Liverpool have been braced for a move from Barcelona, who view the player as a long-term replacement for Andrés Iniesta. The Brazil international is close friends with the Barcelona duo Neymar and Luis Suárez, who made the move from Merseyside in 2014.

    Speaking in Hong Kong on Friday, where Liverpool are competing in the Premier League Asia Trophy, Klopp said: “Yes [Coutinho is not for sale] but that’s not since this morning or yesterday, it’s not been any different. Phil is a very important player for us. He’s trying to get back his rhythm but there’s no doubt about his quality. He’s very smart both offensively and defensively. The nice news for us is that he’s still young. He has improved a lot since I’ve been here and he can still improve a lot.

    “I’m not surprised that any club is interested in players at Liverpool. The very important message is that we are not a selling club and that’s how it is. We believe in working together and developing together. We want to make the next step together and for this we need to stay together. We have to create a situation where everybody is easily able to see which direction we want to go. It’s really positive. This is a fantastic club and it’s a good moment for Liverpool.”

    Liverpool have sold key talents in the recent past – Suárez, Raheem Sterling and Fernando Torres – but unlike that trio Coutinho has not pushed for a transfer and has repeatedly stated his contentment at Anfield. He said in May: “Go somewhere else, to Barcelona, to Bayern Munich, to Real Madrid, and you will be just another player. Here you can be something more. I have a long contract with Liverpool.”

    Klopp’s stance on Coutinho is similar to RB Leipzig’s position on the Liverpool target Naby Keïta, with the Bundesliga club rejecting a £66m offer from Anfield for the midfielder earlier this week. Liverpool, however, have continued to pursue a deal for the Guinea international despite being informed directly by Leipzig officials that Keïta will not be sold this summer.

    Liverpool have confirmed the signing of the Scotland left-back Andy Robertson from Hull for an initial £8m, rising to a possible £10m, with his former club Dundee United due 10% of the fee. Liverpool’s midfielder Kevin Steward has moved in the opposite direction in a separate transfer in a deal worth up to £8m.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-barcelona-bid


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    Van Dijk wants out of Saints

    Source: http://www.skysports.com/share/10956735

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Jürgen Klopp has said Liverpool are not a selling club after rejecting an €80m (£72m) bid from Barcelona for Philippe Coutinho. Liverpool are adamant the Brazilian playmaker will stay at Anfield irrespective of a higher bid from the Spanish club.

    Barcelona have been heavily linked with the 25-year-old since the turn of the year but their opening offer was immediately rejected by Liverpool, who insist Coutinho is not for sale at any price. He signed a new five-year contract at Anfield only last season.

    Coutinho’s latest contract, worth around £150,000 a week, does not contain a release clause but Liverpool have been braced for a move from Barcelona, who view the player as a long-term replacement for Andrés Iniesta. The Brazil international is close friends with the Barcelona duo Neymar and Luis Suárez, who made the move from Merseyside in 2014.

    Speaking in Hong Kong on Friday, where Liverpool are competing in the Premier League Asia Trophy, Klopp said: “Yes [Coutinho is not for sale] but that’s not since this morning or yesterday, it’s not been any different. Phil is a very important player for us. He’s trying to get back his rhythm but there’s no doubt about his quality. He’s very smart both offensively and defensively. The nice news for us is that he’s still young. He has improved a lot since I’ve been here and he can still improve a lot.

    “I’m not surprised that any club is interested in players at Liverpool. The very important message is that we are not a selling club and that’s how it is. We believe in working together and developing together. We want to make the next step together and for this we need to stay together. We have to create a situation where everybody is easily able to see which direction we want to go. It’s really positive. This is a fantastic club and it’s a good moment for Liverpool.”

    Liverpool have sold key talents in the recent past – Suárez, Raheem Sterling and Fernando Torres – but unlike that trio Coutinho has not pushed for a transfer and has repeatedly stated his contentment at Anfield. He said in May: “Go somewhere else, to Barcelona, to Bayern Munich, to Real Madrid, and you will be just another player. Here you can be something more. I have a long contract with Liverpool.”

    Klopp’s stance on Coutinho is similar to RB Leipzig’s position on the Liverpool target Naby Keïta, with the Bundesliga club rejecting a £66m offer from Anfield for the midfielder earlier this week. Liverpool, however, have continued to pursue a deal for the Guinea international despite being informed directly by Leipzig officials that Keïta will not be sold this summer.

    Liverpool have confirmed the signing of the Scotland left-back Andy Robertson from Hull for an initial £8m, rising to a possible £10m, with his former club Dundee United due 10% of the fee. Liverpool’s midfielder Kevin Steward has moved in the opposite direction in a separate transfer in a deal worth up to £8m.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-barcelona-bid
    That means, those greedy Yanks are telling Barca to increase their bid.

    PSG has offered €222mn for Neymar!!!!!! And, by that size of fee, I am sure wage will be close to €1mn/week before tax (in France, after certain level Tax is 75%; Ibra's before Tax wage was over half a million/week) - which means, almost certainly Neymar is heading towards Paris by next week and Barca will come back with an improved offer that these Yanks won't decline.

    Football world has gone crazy - I am losing interest in watching club football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    That means, those greedy Yanks are telling Barca to increase their bid.

    PSG has offered €222mn for Neymar!!!!!! And, by that size of fee, I am sure wage will be close to €1mn/week before tax (in France, after certain level Tax is 75%; Ibra's before Tax wage was over half a million/week) - which means, almost certainly Neymar is heading towards Paris by next week and Barca will come back with an improved offer that these Yanks won't decline.

    Football world has gone crazy - I am losing interest in watching club football.
    Agreed, it's becoming too much like the FIFA games now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    That means, those greedy Yanks are telling Barca to increase their bid.

    PSG has offered €222mn for Neymar!!!!!! And, by that size of fee, I am sure wage will be close to €1mn/week before tax (in France, after certain level Tax is 75%; Ibra's before Tax wage was over half a million/week) - which means, almost certainly Neymar is heading towards Paris by next week and Barca will come back with an improved offer that these Yanks won't decline.

    Football world has gone crazy - I am losing interest in watching club football.
    Financially, yes. But that's due to massive income from broadcasting rights.

    It doesn't deter me from watching the game, but it is ridiculous that £70m, etc is being splashed like it's nothing money but as I said, that's due to increases in income.

    All that being said, I wanna see the best of the best in the PL, and crazy money is part of it I guess.

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    Neymar "90% to leave Barcelona"

    Source: http://www.skysports.com/share/10957324

    So if this happens, a host of other deals could happen. Dybala would move to Barca from Juve, while PSG would have to sell a player to fund for Neymar as well as stay within FFP regulations, with the most obvious choice being Verrati to Man Utd - especially since Verrati has recently changed his agent to Raiola who is also the agent for Lukaku, Pogba, Mkhi and Zlatan.

    However I can also see Juve spend the money they get from Dybala to poach Sanchez.

    A lot of ifs and buts riding on this transfer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    Financially, yes. But that's due to massive income from broadcasting rights.

    It doesn't deter me from watching the game, but it is ridiculous that £70m, etc is being splashed like it's nothing money but as I said, that's due to increases in income.

    All that being said, I wanna see the best of the best in the PL, and crazy money is part of it I guess.
    Transfer fee is just an exchange - clubs are earning high, so spending high; it's not a big deal - just a function of inflation.

    I am upset for different reason. For me, Club football is all about building team, a squad which will fore than the sum of individuals. Some of the best ever club teams were built with several good players, with could of world class star. Those days owners & Managers were passionate about building a squad on a football philosophy, rather than superstar.

    In recent times, football has gone to Mafias & Sheikhs - these people haven't earn their fortune through hard work or their merit, therefore they are not interested to achieve something by building from scratch. Rather, these people are happy to buy fame - they are bringing best Managers at obnoxious wage, giving them almost blank cheque book to buy them instant success. This has made even the best Managers crazy - they are throwing money for anything and every thing, collapsing every financial system, ethics & logic. Besides, another tendency I have seen is like Ambush Marketing - even managers like Mourinho or Pep are buying players at positions that they don't need, just spreeing some money to block players so that their rivals can't strengthen their squad. This is sick - Mou bought Salah to stop Liverpool, and then sent him to loan; now Pep is targeting Danilo, after spending $75mn on Walker...... Even young players are happy to seat on bench for whole season & enjoy six digit pay cheque every week!!!!

    This will end up like Spain everywhere - few teams dominating the league & their 2nd team actually is good enough for others in that league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrizzy View Post
    Neymar "90% to leave Barcelona"

    Source: http://www.skysports.com/share/10957324

    So if this happens, a host of other deals could happen. Dybala would move to Barca from Juve, while PSG would have to sell a player to fund for Neymar as well as stay within FFP regulations, with the most obvious choice being Verrati to Man Utd - especially since Verrati has recently changed his agent to Raiola who is also the agent for Lukaku, Pogba, Mkhi and Zlatan.

    However I can also see Juve spend the money they get from Dybala to poach Sanchez.

    A lot of ifs and buts riding on this transfer!
    This is why i hope it happens, Verrati with Pogba and Herrera will make our MF unstoppable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Transfer fee is just an exchange - clubs are earning high, so spending high; it's not a big deal - just a function of inflation.

    I am upset for different reason. For me, Club football is all about building team, a squad which will fore than the sum of individuals. Some of the best ever club teams were built with several good players, with could of world class star. Those days owners & Managers were passionate about building a squad on a football philosophy, rather than superstar.

    In recent times, football has gone to Mafias & Sheikhs - these people haven't earn their fortune through hard work or their merit, therefore they are not interested to achieve something by building from scratch. Rather, these people are happy to buy fame - they are bringing best Managers at obnoxious wage, giving them almost blank cheque book to buy them instant success. This has made even the best Managers crazy - they are throwing money for anything and every thing, collapsing every financial system, ethics & logic. Besides, another tendency I have seen is like Ambush Marketing - even managers like Mourinho or Pep are buying players at positions that they don't need, just spreeing some money to block players so that their rivals can't strengthen their squad. This is sick - Mou bought Salah to stop Liverpool, and then sent him to loan; now Pep is targeting Danilo, after spending $75mn on Walker...... Even young players are happy to seat on bench for whole season & enjoy six digit pay cheque every week!!!!

    This will end up like Spain everywhere - few teams dominating the league & their 2nd team actually is good enough for others in that league.
    I agree that the idea of building a team is diminishing. I remember where Man Utd under Sir Alex would probably only buy 1 superstar every few years because they were a rarity and would cost a fortune, or even then Sir Alex would build a team be it full of an average squad, and make them into Champions. But nowadays, as you said, money motivates everyone so instead of having that "special signing" every couple years, we're getting 3/4 every season which is crazy.

    You could also talk about loyalty when it comes to football as that's thrown out the window. It seems like everyone is a mercenary and will follow the money. PSG became competitive because of the Sheikh route, as did Man City. And although this is bad for the market (due to inflation, as you said) it did strengthen them and made their respective leagues tougher and more competitive. Loyalty comes into it since you talk about building a squad which takes a few years, but a lot of owners want instant success or are pressured to sack managers if they're not doing great. I think THIS aspect of football tarnishes its value, and its image.

    Re: Salah to Liverpool. That was more due to Liverpool not paying enough money and valuing him lower than what Chelsea did, not to block Liverpool from buying him.

    However, having followed the PL all my life I can tell you that we won't become like La Liga where 2 teams dominate. Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham are all in contention for top 4 with, I'd say 3 of them for the title. That's stiff competition and this is because of the money they get from broadcasting rights, ticket sales, merchandise, etc. Even now, the gap between the top 6 and the rest of the PL isn't as big as you think when Everton are spending £30m for Pickford. West Ham look strong too. There are a host of teams that make the PL what it is: and that's the greatest league in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    That means, those greedy Yanks are telling Barca to increase their bid.

    PSG has offered €222mn for Neymar!!!!!! And, by that size of fee, I am sure wage will be close to €1mn/week before tax (in France, after certain level Tax is 75%; Ibra's before Tax wage was over half a million/week) - which means, almost certainly Neymar is heading towards Paris by next week and Barca will come back with an improved offer that these Yanks won't decline.

    Football world has gone crazy - I am losing interest in watching club football.

    Coutinho isn't definitely going to leave.

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    David de Gea not joining Real Madrid - Man Utd boss Jose Mourinho

    Goalkeeper David de Gea will "100%" be staying at Manchester United this season, says manager Jose Mourinho.

    The Spain international, 26, has again been linked with a move to Real Madrid, two years after a deadline-day deal fell through because the paperwork was not faxed through in time.

    Mourinho hinted that United were open to selling De Gea to Real last summer, but said that stance has now changed.

    "I can guarantee he is not going this season," the United boss said.

    Speaking about last summer, the former Real coach added: "The club was closed, but when a player has a desire to go, I don't stop them. So, we opened it and they [Real] decided to close."

    Before the sides meet at the Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara on Sunday, Mourinho also said he regarded Real's Gareth Bale as being in the same "mission impossible" category as team-mate Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Former United forward Ronaldo last week ruled out a return to Old Trafford.

    "He was never on my list," Mourinho said of the Welsh attacker. "It is clear Bale likes Madrid. He is in a very good situation. I never felt a desire from him to leave. So why lose time and energy on that?"

    Mourinho described De Gea as "really happy, focused and working better than ever" but suggested that he is no longer guaranteed his place in the starting XI.

    Argentina goalkeeper Sergio Romero pushed De Gea hard last season and was preferred for the Europa League final win against Ajax.

    Romero, 30, signed a contract extension until 2021 last week and both men will be given 45 minutes against Real on Sunday.

    "The best thing that could happen for De Gea was the way Romero played last season," Mourinho said.

    "Until last year, David was clearly a safe man. A clear choice. But after what Romero did last season, David thinks he is training in another way. He is much better than before."

    Mourinho also confirmed that Luke Shaw, Ashley Young and Marcos Rojo will miss the start of the campaign, despite all three being on the tour of the United States.

    Left-back Shaw is expected to return from a foot injury by September, Young will likely be back playing in October following a hamstring problem and Rojo will be fit after knee damage in December or January.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40696301


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