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    Hardik is definitely a much better batsman from what we have seen so far.

    Fahim has shown more (and achieved more) with the ball already.


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    Fahim so far is just one knock away from introducing himself.

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    Pandya has lots of courage. His attitude is built from courage. That has made a lot of difference.

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    I guess it was time to bump this thread again and a good lesson for us stop hyping both players both are no where near the ben stokes level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7sins View Post
    I guess it was time to bump this thread again and a good lesson for us stop hyping both players both are no where near the ben stokes level.
    Give them 3-5 years before dismissing them completely.

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    Below average batsman. That List A average of 15 says it all.

    His bowling is okay, however if he can't take wickets he doesn't make it as a bowling all-rounder.

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    Once again, Pandya is no match for Faheem and time will show this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakSarZameen View Post
    Below average batsman. That List A average of 15 says it all.

    His bowling is okay, however if he can't take wickets he doesn't make it as a bowling all-rounder.
    This is why I hate having players selected who haven't performed in domestic yet. His list A average is 15. His ODI average is again 15.

    Was an absolute passenger in the NZ series. Batted at 8 below Shadab most games. Didn't bowl full 10 overs any match and usually bowls 6 or so overs. It's like he's a specialist part time bowler for us. Not really his fault, how much impact can you have being a no.8 batsman who doesn't bowl full quota? He's neither a batsman or a bowler for us. T20s fine for experimentation, but he doesn't look good enough for ODIs yet.

    Has a lot of talent, but really should have been left until he was dominating in domestic before making the jump. Hard to ask a guy who's main trade is bowling to suddenly jump his average up by 20 runs compared to international cricket. At the moment all it seems he is doing is lengthening our tail. I don't see why he should play over a batting all rounder or even a pure batsman e.g. Talat. At most he should only be making the team as a 3rd pacer who can bat. Which he might do given our pace bowling worries bar hasan. But not at the expense of weakening our batting.

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    pandya fans (one in particular) nowhere to be seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railu Katta View Post
    pandya fans (one in particular) nowhere to be seen
    Has Faheem done anything in NZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oligochaetes View Post
    Has Faheem done anything in NZ?
    He has done more with his career than pandya despite playing more games. Hatrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Once again, Pandya is no match for Faheem and time will show this.
    What has Faheem done to create 'matches' ? First of all, this whole comparison between Pandya and Faheem is completely irrelevant cause he's a new kid on the block! It's not just Pandya, but the entire Indian top order baring Kohli failed in SA. Atleast Pandya made 93 in his first test match. What's Faheem's contribution in the ongoing NZ tour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railu Katta View Post
    He has done more with his career than pandya despite playing more games. Hatrick
    You mean against the depleted Lankan tailenders? That is a testament for someone to be called as "Greater than X,Y,Z players" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    You mean against the depleted Lankan tailenders? That is a testament for someone to be called as "Greater than X,Y,Z players" ?
    pandya faced the same players and he didn't do it so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railu Katta View Post
    He has done more with his career than pandya despite playing more games. Hatrick
    Thats just one random event. We are not playing Trump Cards here.

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    All faheem is good for hitting one six on short ball. And then getting out. He done nothing till now. Atleast pandya has 90's against best bowling attack in their home. What faheem did in nz. Any worthy innings? He is tullaybaaz only. Good enough for only one six

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    @babajee @Railu Katta can you refer any faheem innings where he cross 30 runs. He has so many chances in nz tour since top order failed
    Last edited by hadi123; 25th January 2018 at 09:55.

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    @dhonixi

    Fahim is Pakistani and Pandya is Indian, and this is PakPassion. That alone is enough for Fahim to be a bigger talent than his counterpart.

    Every Pakistani cricketer is by default more talented than his Indian counterpart. Unfortunately, it always backfires in the long run, but we never learn.

    The truth is that Pandya is the most exciting young all-rounder in the world. He has created a serious impression with the bat in the last 6-7 months, and Fahim will never reach those heights. In bowling they are comparable, but Pandya is levels above in batting, fielding, fitness, overall attitude etc.

    Fahim is an average cricketer who will probably be out of the team in a couple of years. He is being hyped up because of the desperation of Pakistani fans to produce a quality fast bowling all-rounder.

    He is a trundler with little skill and a poor bowling action, and he is a good hitter for the ball but he is only good for a couple of sixes every now and then. Basically a marginally better version of Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti etc.

    If you bring the 2013 versions of those two 'all-rounders', the usual suspects would hype him more than Pandya etc. as well. If I were you, I would not take these resident green parrots seriously. Let them live in their bubble.

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    People need to calm down, nobody said pandya is a finished product, infact far from it, he has potential, and to criticize him on this pitch is unfair, with the kind of prodigious swing and seam that was on display, he has actually done decently on this tour considering this was his 1st tour,he will learn his lesson and will become a better cricketer hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    @dhonixi

    Fahim is Pakistani and Pandya is Indian, and this is PakPassion. That alone is enough for Fahim to be a bigger talent than his counterpart.

    Every Pakistani cricketer is by default more talented than his Indian counterpart. Unfortunately, it always backfires in the long run, but we never learn.

    The truth is that Pandya is the most exciting young all-rounder in the world. He has created a serious impression with the bat in the last 6-7 months, and Fahim will never reach those heights. In bowling they are comparable, but Pandya is levels above in batting, fielding, fitness, overall attitude etc.

    Fahim is an average cricketer who will probably be out of the team in a couple of years. He is being hyped up because of the desperation of Pakistani fans to produce a quality fast bowling all-rounder.

    He is a trundler with little skill and a poor bowling action, and he is a good hitter for the ball but he is only good for a couple of sixes every now and then. Basically a marginally better version of Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti etc.

    If you bring the 2013 versions of those two 'all-rounders', the usual suspects would hype him more than Pandya etc. as well. If I were you, I would not take these resident green parrots seriously. Let them live in their bubble.
    @ Bold Part.

    P.S. Good thing you're a doctor, Ankhon kay Ilaj per Paisa Nahe Kharch Karan Parhega !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    @ Bold Part.

    P.S. Good thing you're a doctor, Ankhon kay Ilaj per Paisa Nahe Kharch Karan Parhega !!!
    hahahhahah @Mamoon the guy is not that bad but his batting is not existinting atm,And he need to perform with the bat which paksitan need more than his bowling.

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    Faheem is definitely the better bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDoritos View Post
    Faheem is definitely the better bowler
    Nah heís a trundler with little skill lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Nah heís a trundler with little skill lol
    Anwar Ali is a better bowler than Pandya

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    @ Bold Part.

    P.S. Good thing you're a doctor, Ankhon kay Ilaj per Paisa Nahe Kharch Karan Parhega !!!
    His average speed is in the 130s, but his effort balls go up to 140. That is the definition of a trundler for me. Anything slower is a dibbly-dobbler, and he is quicker than that.

    You can call him a fast bowler if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    hahahhahah @Mamoon the guy is not that bad but his batting is not existinting atm,And he need to perform with the bat which paksitan need more than his bowling.
    Average bowler, below average slogger. The hype is desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDoritos View Post
    Faheem is definitely the better bowler
    Maybe, maybe not, but Pandya is leagues ahead when it comes to batting.

    If Fahim gets anywhere close to some of the knocks Pandya has played in his career so far, PPers will dub Fahim as the next Sobers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Average bowler, below average slogger. The hype is desperate.
    Lets seee how it goes in nect few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Lets seee how it goes in nect few months.
    Any Pakistani player who gets hyped up at the expense of his Indian counterpart has a remorseful fate. Letís see if Fahim can buck the trend.

    However, I donít have high hopes from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Any Pakistani player who gets hyped up at the expense of his Indian counterpart has a remorseful fate. Letís see if Fahim can buck the trend.
    e him by comparing hi
    However, I donít have high hopes from him.
    if we judge him by comparing him with Pandya then i think he will fail.
    But if he can bowl 7 to 8 over with good economy and with an odd wicket per match and contribute 20 average with 120 SR,i will take him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    if we judge him by comparing him with Pandya then i think he will fail.
    But if he can bowl 7 to 8 over with good economy and with an odd wicket per match and contribute 20 average with 120 SR,i will take him.
    His batting will determine his long-term future. People can call him a trundler or a medium fast or whatever, these are just arbitrary terms.

    However, the fact is that he is nothing special with the ball and Pakistan will produce better bowlers than him.

    If he wasnít an all-rounder, he would not be in the team for his bowling.

    He needs to make his batting count. Yes, if he can average 20 odd with a SR of 120+, he will be useful. At the moment, he doesnt look capable enough with the bat. He can hit the ball but batting intelligence is missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    His average speed is in the 130s, but his effort balls go up to 140. That is the definition of a trundler for me. Anything slower is a dibbly-dobbler, and he is quicker than that.

    You can call him a fast bowler if you wish.
    Lol, Hasan Ali is a trundler then.

    Only Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar etc can classify as fast bowlers

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Lol, Hasan Ali is a trundler then.

    Only Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar etc can classify as fast bowlers
    Hasan Ali is fast medium who can be fast on occasions like Amir.

    Starc, Wahab, Ferguson, Milne, Cummins, Bumrah etc. are the genuine fast bowlers in the world today in terms of speed. Most of their deliveries are 90+.

    Amir, Hasan, Boult, Southee, Rabada etc. mostly operating in the mid to late 80ís, but they can go above 90 every now and then.

    Fahim, Pandya, Raees etc. are a little slower than that on average (excluding effort balls and top speed).

    Nonetheless, pace isnít everything if you have the skills. Fahimís skill level is not great. He is no Anderson, Philander, Hazlewood or Bhuvneshwar.
    Last edited by Mamoon; 25th January 2018 at 12:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    His batting will determine his long-term future. People can call him a trundler or a medium fast or whatever, these are just arbitrary terms.

    However, the fact is that he is nothing special with the ball and Pakistan will produce better bowlers than him.

    If he wasn’t an all-rounder, he would not be in the team for his bowling.

    He needs to make his batting count. Yes, if he can average 20 odd with a SR of 120+, he will be useful. At the moment, he doesnt look capable enough with the bat. He can hit the ball but batting intelligence is missing.
    Yes agreed,he misses batting intelligence like he always try to hook not watching the ball suitable for that.

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    Excellent performance by Pandya so far in this series. Among the leading run scorer and wicket takers.

    This Faheem guy can't score a run or take a wicket. Faheem is a trundler. Pandya on the other hand is basically the second coming of Shoaib Akhtar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hasan Ali is fast medium who can be fast on occasions like Amir.

    Starc, Wahab, Ferguson, Milne, Cummins, Bumrah etc. are the genuine fast bowlers in the world today in terms of speed. Most of their deliveries are 90+.

    Amir, Hasan, Boult, Southee, Rabada etc. mostly operating in the mid to late 80’s, but they can go above 90 every now and then.

    Fahim, Pandya, Raees etc. are a little slower than that on average (excluding effort balls and top speed).
    Remove Sothe plz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hasan Ali is fast medium who can be fast on occasions like Amir.

    Starc, Wahab, Ferguson, Milne, Cummins, Bumrah etc. are the genuine fast bowlers in the world today in terms of speed. Most of their deliveries are 90+.

    Amir, Hasan, Boult, Southee, Rabada etc. mostly operating in the mid to late 80’s, but they can go above 90 every now and then.

    Fahim, Pandya, Raees etc. are a little slower than that on average (excluding effort balls and top speed).

    Nonetheless, pace isn’t everything if you have the skills. Fahim’s skill level is not great.
    Southee is slower than pandya and Fahim,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Remove Sothe plz.
    Southee is in between Fahim, Pandya category and Amir, Boult, Hasan etc. category.

    Similarly, Rabada is quicker than them but not as quick as Starc etc. These two are particularly difficult to categorize.

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    Some people are burning like crazy


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Southee is in between Fahim, Pandya category and Amir, Boult, Hasan etc. category.

    Similarly, Rabada is quicker than them but not as quick as Starc etc. These two are particularly difficult to categorize.
    Southe is thundler but he can swing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Some people are burning like crazy
    Obviously .. we won

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Obviously .. we won
    I wonder where does this victory lie on the fluke-o-meter


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Southe is thundler but he can swing it.
    Southee is bowling slower these days than usual. In his peak, he was certainly quicker than Fahim, Pandya etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I wonder where does this victory lie on the fluke-o-meter
    Imagine if we win the series...

    Tobah tobah

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Imagine if we win the series...

    Tobah tobah
    Qayamat ka sama hoga kuch log ke liyay


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Pandya bowls just 2 overs on a bowler's paradise. Why is he in the team? lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oligochaetes View Post
    Pandya bowls just 2 overs on a bowler's paradise. Why is he in the team? lol...
    Also got a first ball duck... ATG Alrounder


    @babajee


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Also got a first ball duck... ATG Alrounder


    @babajee
    But but Faheem lacks batting intelligence

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    But but Faheem lacks batting intelligence
    Pandya also has a 90 odd in SA and a test century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Pandya also has a 90 odd in SA and a test century.
    Fluke

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Imagine if we win the series...

    Tobah tobah
    Just checked ur posts today... You are a gem my bro. #luvuh


    We will never surrender. We win or we die. And don't think it stops there. You will have the next generation to fight; and after the next, the next.

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    Both have been quite underwhelming on their away tours.

    Faheem is clearly the better bowler of the 2. He really needs to work on playing the short ball though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Southee is in between Fahim, Pandya category and Amir, Boult, Hasan etc. category.

    Similarly, Rabada is quicker than them but not as quick as Starc etc. These two are particularly difficult to categorize.
    No. Southee and Raees are below Pandya and Fahim, they bowl 128-133 range. Fahim and Pandya bowl 134-140


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    Man let Faheem play a bit more before judging him. Pandya has had 2 years of international cricket, it's just daft to start demeaning Faheem Ashraf before he's had a chance to grow into his role.

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    Maybe faheem is better bowler by little margin, but gap between their batting is so much. Faheem did nothing with bat till now. Not even single innings. Why compare him with pandya now. And then no comparison in their fielding

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    I can't believe that this thread get so much attention. Charitably, you could say both need time, but honestly, we havent seen Faheem to do anything yet (but I am really excited at the prospect of having a player who can bowl 135 - 140 ) and tonk the ball.
    Most of the thread seems to about pegging Pandya back. Having said that Pandya will suffer from the tall poppy syndrome. Because he is championed by the captain, every time he fails, it will always be louder.

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    Pandya is definitely more talented but he lacks brain. No match awareness at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHONI_FAN View Post
    Pandya is definitely more talented but he lacks brain. No match awareness at all.
    You sure its about that? I think the captain wants him to play without consequences...Kind of like a gamble with a high pay-off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    You sure its about that? I think the captain wants him to play without consequences...Kind of like a gamble with a high pay-off
    Did you see how he got run out in the last match?

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    Those dissing Faheem.will eat some.real humble pie one day...keep ur stomachs empty

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHONI_FAN View Post
    Did you see how he got run out in the last match?
    I did (not defending it) but could be side-effect of "go play and I will back you no matter what" being misunderstood be reckless rather than aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Some people are burning like crazy
    I only see one person and the person is not even hindustani or so we are told

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadee View Post
    Those dissing Faheem.will eat some.real humble pie one day...keep ur stomachs empty
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    I did (not defending it) but could be side-effect of "go play and I will back you no matter what" being misunderstood be reckless rather than aggressive.
    'Reckless' is the apt word to describe him. You are totally correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Both have been quite underwhelming on their away tours.

    Faheem is clearly the better bowler of the 2. He really needs to work on playing the short ball though.
    Should learn the uppercut like Azhar and Sarfraz play, or back away and flat-bat through cover/point like Imad does. Doesn't come off all the time, but it's better than top-edge to mid-wicket which has happened multiple times to Ranajee on this tour.

    Anyways, that's a really tough ball to hit.

    Even the GOAT hitter Afridi () struggled with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    It appears Pandya has burrowed deep in the psyche of a few Pakistani posters. It is going to be a long 10 to 15 years for them as Pandya keeps delivering.

    The point with Pandya is that he is mentally exceptional. Just watch his face when he plays. I have not seen another player display the concentration he shows, whether batting or bowling.



    You along with @Mamoon at least go by what you see on the field. Kudos to you two.
    I just donít find him good enough. I hope seeing his performances I have the right to think he is going to be a flop player at international level.
    Or is it only because he is Indian?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Some people on this forum look really stupid now. Pandaya is a talent and will be a fantastic all rounder.
    I hope I look less stupid now with him scoring 26 runs in last 5 innings and taken no wicket in the last two matches in these conditions...

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    PAK v NZ tour:

    Fahim: 58 runs in 5 ODI innings & 15 runs in 2 T20I innings
    Yamin: 32 runs in 1 ODI inning & 15 runs in 1 T20I inning

    Furthermore, Yamin was not out in both innings he played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakSarZameen View Post
    PAK v NZ tour:

    Fahim: 58 runs in 5 ODI innings & 15 runs in 2 T20I innings
    Yamin: 32 runs in 1 ODI inning & 15 runs in 1 T20I inning

    Furthermore, Yamin was not out in both innings he played.
    Faheem is cut from a different cloth to Yamin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    I just don’t find him good enough. I hope seeing his performances I have the right to think he is going to be a flop player at international level.
    Or is it only because he is Indian?


    I hope I look less stupid now with him scoring 26 runs in last 5 innings and taken no wicket in the last two matches in these conditions...

    It was his first test series in South Africa. All rounders take time to develop. That innings in the first test was brilliant .

    Still proved you wrong . You said he wasn't international class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    It was his first test series in South Africa. All rounders take time to develop. That innings in the first test was brilliant .

    Still proved you wrong . You said he wasn't international class
    That first innings was indeed brilliant despite the fact he was dropped early.
    It was a world class innings! Itís not like I am denying it.

    What do you have to say about the performances I mentioned.
    26 runs in 5 innings and 0 wickets in last two test matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    That first innings was indeed brilliant despite the fact he was dropped early.
    It was a world class innings! It’s not like I am denying it.

    What do you have to say about the performances I mentioned.
    26 runs in 5 innings and 0 wickets in last two test matches.


    Very poor but all rounders take time to develop. The more he plays the better he will get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hasan Ali is fast medium who can be fast on occasions like Amir.

    Starc, Wahab, Ferguson, Milne, Cummins, Bumrah etc. are the genuine fast bowlers in the world today in terms of speed. Most of their deliveries are 90+.

    Amir, Hasan, Boult, Southee, Rabada etc. mostly operating in the mid to late 80’s, but they can go above 90 every now and then.

    Fahim, Pandya, Raees etc. are a little slower than that on average (excluding effort balls and top speed).

    Nonetheless, pace isn’t everything if you have the skills. Fahim’s skill level is not great. He is no Anderson, Philander, Hazlewood or Bhuvneshwar.
    Woah Woah! You've got that wrong. Bumrah quicker than Rababa? Rabada is in the genuinely quick category and Bumrah in the fast medium bracket. Cummins is also slower than Rabada. Milne is not as quick as he was back in 2010/11, he now rarely bowls above 145. Southee of today can barely go above 85, don't know when he clocked above 90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Very poor but all rounders take time to develop. The more he plays the better he will get.
    So because all rounders take time to develop he should be given a free run in the team with no runs and wickets to show?

    So we agree that, at least currently, he is not good enough to play test cricket?

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    No need for comparisions. Both could end up as great "LOI" all rounders for their respective teams.

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    Although I was disappointed yesterday when Faheem came in and banged the same delivery over and over when getting smacked instead of using variations like the other bowlers ala Amir and Yamin.

    P.S - Just realized if I didn't put the and it would be just one bowler.

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    So far Faheem's batting resembles the twilight of afridi's career and his bowling is marginally better than bilawal bhatii (i.e. faheem is getting wickets despite bowling tripe vs bhatti bowling just tripe).
    So much potential there, but not enough discipline.
    Thankfully I trust Mickey to sort this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    So because all rounders take time to develop he should be given a free run in the team with no runs and wickets to show?

    So we agree that, at least currently, he is not good enough to play test cricket?

    India need an all rounder so he deserves time as he has shown glimpses of his ability and potential. These pitches weren't easy to score on. He won't play on pitches like these in every series so I'm expecting him to perform better and make you look like an idiot.

    Most sensible posters on this forum and experts of the game rate Pandya. The only reason you don't is because of his nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonixi View Post
    Maybe faheem is better bowler by little margin, but gap between their batting is so much. Faheem did nothing with bat till now. Not even single innings. Why compare him with pandya now. And then no comparison in their fielding
    Nope, he does. A whirlwind 60 odd against Bangladesh in the CT Warm ups chasing 320 odd and when PAk were down and out on 220-odd for 8. He also has a few blistering inings which finished off chases in the domestic scene as well. That's why he was originally hyped, he has a criminal swing of the bat. Hopefully we'll see that feature quite often in the next few series. His international career has just started and if we compare both of them at this stage of the career, Faheem is ahead at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Should learn the uppercut like Azhar and Sarfraz play, or back away and flat-bat through cover/point like Imad does. Doesn't come off all the time, but it's better than top-edge to mid-wicket which has happened multiple times to Ranajee on this tour.

    Anyways, that's a really tough ball to hit.

    Even the GOAT hitter Afridi () struggled with that.
    He's a compulsive puller and is probably one of the best hookers of the pacy balls we have currently. Having said that, he does need to develop a cut to combat the short ball outside of the off stump.

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    So then.. who will create the Hardik Pandya vs. Aamir Yamin thread?

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