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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Well if people can compare young Steyn with Akram then why not?
    Thread referred earlier at PP was created on 19th July 2011. A young player with potential vs legends will be understandable. Abdul Razzaq had played 16-17 years of ODI cricket by then. There is no parallel with Young Steyn vs Wasim here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Thread referred earlier at PP was created on 19th July 2011. A young player with potential vs legends will be understandable. Abdul Razzaq had played 16-17 years of ODI cricket by then. There is no parallel with Young Steyn vs Wasim here.
    Read my post carefully I wrote AT THAT TIME..meaning when Razzaq was young and smashed Mcgrath for 6 fours in an over in Australia...and destroyed thr Indian line up with his bowling..

    When other fans hype an upcoming cricketer it is ok but when Pak fans do the same they are deluded...strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Read my post carefully I wrote AT THAT TIME..meaning when Razzaq was young and smashed Mcgrath for 6 fours in an over in Australia...and destroyed thr Indian line up with his bowling..

    When other fans hype an upcoming cricketer it is ok but when Pak fans do the same they are deluded...strange.
    Not sure what's your point here. I clearly posted a thread created in 2011 hyping Razzaq when Razzaq had played 17 years of cricket. If you are replying to that then not sure what your are proving by quoting young Razzaq. Hyping Young Razzaq is not an issue and I already said so. Hyping a player after he has played 17 years of ODI is surely absurd. That's the point I was making.

    Every country fans hype their players, Pakistan is not an exception.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Every country fans hype their players, Pakistan is not an exception.
    Yes this is what I wanted you to admit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Yes this is what I wanted you to admit...
    You could have simply asked that. When did I deny it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Anwar Ali has done more than Pandya too in T20s. Pandya averages like 9 in 13 T20I innings.
    He certainly has, but Pandya has shown far greater potential than Anwar Ali with the bat and his hitting ability has shown that he is very much capable of being devastating in T20 as well. Fahim so far has not shown that he is anywhere close to Pandya when it comes to batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    A.Ali played the best knock against SA in SA in 2013...I am pretty sure we had FB back then...You did not see anyone hyping him
    That knock was better than what Pandya has done in his entire career bashing spinners like Zaman and a third grade Aussie line up LOL

    You are disproving your own self and your idea about Pak fans is deluded...
    Anwar Ali was also hyped and there is actually an Anwar Ali vs Stokes thread on this very forum. No that innings was nowhere close to Pandya's innings against Pakistan and Australia.

    Pakistani fans are the most deluded in the world. It is a proven fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Anwar Ali was also hyped and there is actually an Anwar Ali vs Stokes thread on this very forum. No that innings was nowhere close to Pandya's innings against Pakistan and Australia.

    Pakistani fans are the most deluded in the world. It is a proven fact.
    Asad Shafiq gets bashed by @Mamoon for playing inconsequential innings' on a consistent basis, while Hardik Pandik's innings against Pakistan is the stuff of dreams. Shafiq's century at the Gabba came in for severe criticism by the likes of you, even though it was miles better than anything Pandya will ever achieve in his career. Double standards much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Asad Shafiq gets bashed by @Mamoon for playing inconsequential innings' on a consistent basis, while Hardik Pandik's innings against Pakistan is the stuff of dreams. Shafiq's century at the Gabba came in for severe criticism by the likes of you, even though it was miles better than anything Pandya will ever achieve in his career. Double standards much?
    Shafiq is a veteran of 7 years with 50+ Tests under his belt, but he has not improved an inch. He has made a habit of playing inconsequential innings.

    So far, of all the four great knocks that Pandya has played, only one of them was inconsequential (the one against Pakistan), and if he develops a habit of playing inconsequential innings for years, he will also be criticized like Shafiq.

    A poor comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Shafiq is a veteran of 7 years with 50+ Tests under his belt, but he has not improved an inch. He has made a habit of playing inconsequential innings.

    So far, of all the four great knocks that Pandya has played, only one of them was inconsequential (the one against Pakistan), and if he develops a habit of playing inconsequential innings for years, he will also be criticized like Shafiq.

    A poor comparison.
    How is an inconsequential a great knock in any case considering your template? Shouldn't all inconsequential knocks be, inconsequential? Why is one innings being trumpeted as a sign of greatness while the other is being brushed off as a habit?

    Shouldn't Pandya's knock be only a decent effort while considering the fact that he had nothing to lose by playing that way and also the fact that he faced the wily spin of Fakhar Zaman?

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    Pandya has not given a great bowling performance to be ranked as an all-rounder. Fahim has not given a great batting performace to be ranked as an all-rounder. Both have potential but Pandya looks to be a proper top-order batsman who can score 78(52) and bowl a 1-55 in 10 while Fahim looks like a late order slogger who can score 27*(18) and bowl 2-45 in 10.

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    Pakistani fans: Fahim

    Indian fans: Hardik

    Neutrals: Hardik unless Stokes comes back


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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    How is an inconsequential a great knock in any case considering your template? Shouldn't all inconsequential knocks be, inconsequential? Why is one innings being trumpeted as a sign of greatness while the other is being brushed off as a habit?

    Shouldn't Pandya's knock be only a decent effort while considering the fact that he had nothing to lose by playing that way and also the fact that he faced the wily spin of Fakhar Zaman?
    I can't believe I have to explain this.

    You have to take the player into consideration as well. For example, a TTF playing an inconsequential innings in a CT final is not going to grab the headlines but if a young player does it, he is obviously going to be praised for it.

    The reason? it is the belief that the young player has room for growth and can build on those performances, which is not true for an experienced player who is not going to get any better and has maximized his potential already.

    Hence, the question that "why is one innings being trumpeted as a sign of greatness while the other is being brushed off as a habit?" is self-explanatory. Had a young Pakistani batsmen played the innings that Shafiq did at Brisbane, he would be hyped up as an ATG in the making.

    Why do you think Babar got more acclaim for his consecutive hundreds vs the WI in the UAE in 2016 than Hafeez for his consecutive hundreds vs SL in the UAE in 2013?

    For example, Yuvraj is a not a TTF but his best is clearly behind him. Hence, had he played that Pandya innings in the final, he would not have generated much excitement. Last year, he scored a 150 vs England in an ODI, but nobody made a big deal out of it.

    Therefore, the comparison of Pandya and Shafiq is a very poor one. Pandya is an exciting young player who has serious potential, and whenever he plays a good innings - inconsequential or not - it is going to spark excitement and create hope.

    If he goes on to become a mediocre player like Shafiq, his inconsequential knocks are not going to generate any hype.

    Pandya only hit two sixes to wily Zaman. He destroyed Shadab and hit him for four sixes, who is by all accounts a very good talent and among the most exciting young spinners in the world today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Pandya has not given a great bowling performance to be ranked as an all-rounder. Fahim has not given a great batting performace to be ranked as an all-rounder. Both have potential but Pandya looks to be a proper top-order batsman who can score 78(52) and bowl a 1-55 in 10 while Fahim looks like a late order slogger who can score 27*(18) and bowl 2-45 in 10.
    Therefore Pandya would be more valuable, he looks more compact when playing his big shots and absolutely murders spinners.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CricFan2012 View Post
    Therefore Pandya would be more valuable, he looks more compact when playing his big shots and absolutely murders spinners.
    Except India is not lacking class top-order batsmen. They need a wicket-taking bowler in the middle overs. Pakistan need a lower-order hitter and someone to choke the batsman in the middle overs. If Pandya improves his bowling, he will be of greater value to India than Fahim to Pakistan. However, I don't see him bowling 90+ and he lacks the back-of-a-length delivery that Fahim has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Pandya has not given a great bowling performance to be ranked as an all-rounder. Fahim has not given a great batting performace to be ranked as an all-rounder. Both have potential but Pandya looks to be a proper top-order batsman who can score 78(52) and bowl a 1-55 in 10 while Fahim looks like a late order slogger who can score 27*(18) and bowl 2-45 in 10.
    No one is saying that faheem in next legendary all rounder. But what have pandya achieved in last 1.7 years or international career ? Why so much hype on one player and saying other player a slogger and trundler? Virat kohli doesnot even trust pandya bowling didnt even finished his quota in odis and get a phainty in t20s. And in terms of batting the thing he showed that he is a spinner basher only but unfortunately NZ spinners have found out where to bowl him and guess what hes been out by spinner 4 times this series and becoming ish sodhi bunny as well. But wait 1 week Sri Lanka is coming he will again become a next Kapil dev in the eyes of fans like mamoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7sins View Post
    No one is saying that faheem in next legendary all rounder. But what have pandya achieved in last 1.7 years or international career ? Why so much hype on one player and saying other player a slogger and trundler? Virat kohli doesnot even trust pandya bowling didnt even finished his quota in odis and get a phainty in t20s. And in terms of batting the thing he showed that he is a spinner basher only but unfortunately NZ spinners have found out where to bowl him and guess what hes been out by spinner 4 times this series and becoming ish sodhi bunny as well. But wait 1 week Sri Lanka is coming he will again become a next Kapil dev in the eyes of fans like mamoon
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    Shadab Khan is a better fielder lol can't forget the sitter Pandya dropped straight after the stunner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    Hope whatever you have posted here makes you sleep sound at night, because its as rubbish as Mamoon's posts in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    What a load if rubbish. The uae wickets were nothing like Sri Lankan wickets so no comparison there. In what world was his bowling faster than our main bowlers? UAE is just about as humid aswell and srilanka has better conditions for fast bowlers yet he was average. Our fielding is as good as India's now and pandya is as good as anyone in our team.

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    Pandya was dreadful today just 9 from 6 balls LOL wasted six deliveries even Afridi would have played better in this situation
    Also giving 12 runs off his last over...India should thank God they did not have 15 to defend LOL

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    Let's not compare gully mohallah level players like Pandya with Fahim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia. And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets. And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    Quote Originally Posted by zain7077 View Post
    Shadab Khan is a better fielder lol can't forget the sitter Pandya dropped straight after the stunner
    Quote Originally Posted by htariq25 View Post
    What a load if rubbish. The uae wickets were nothing like Sri Lankan wickets so no comparison there. In what world was his bowling faster than our main bowlers? UAE is just about as humid aswell and srilanka has better conditions for fast bowlers yet he was average. Our fielding is as good as India's now and pandya is as good as anyone in our team.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Pandya was dreadful today just 9 from 6 balls LOL wasted six deliveries even Afridi would have played better in this situation
    Also giving 12 runs off his last over...India should thank God they did not have 15 to defend LOL
    Good performance from Pandya today. 14 off 10 balls with the bat, captain trusted him to bowl the final over, great courageous stop off the second ball of the over which saved a 4, and finally two critical run-outs. Little things which don't show up in stats often win matches.

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    Kept his nerve against a rampaging Grandhomme and won it or his side, good calm head as a bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Except India is not lacking class top-order batsmen. They need a wicket-taking bowler in the middle overs. Pakistan need a lower-order hitter and someone to choke the batsman in the middle overs. If Pandya improves his bowling, he will be of greater value to India than Fahim to Pakistan. However, I don't see him bowling 90+ and he lacks the back-of-a-length delivery that Fahim has.
    Pandya has a long way to become a top notch bowler but he has cranked up 90 MPH many a times and have been seen clocking 142 consistently in many games before.Anyways he is there in the team mainly bcz of his fielding and hitting skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Let's not compare gully mohallah level players like Pandya with Fahim.
    I second this wholeheartedly! Very well said brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    Good performance from Pandya today. 14 off 10 balls with the bat, captain trusted him to bowl the final over, great courageous stop off the second ball of the over which saved a 4, and finally two critical run-outs. Little things which don't show up in stats often win matches.
    Yes 12 runs off the last over are good according to your standards....
    Thank God India were not defending 15 runs off the last over..
    Even Kohli would have defended 19 runs off the last over there is no need to praise him..Chahal must be praised for his amazing over..Pandya deserves no credit..atleast not for the last over

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    Man this thread is already 7 page long, and Fahim has not started playing yet, we are too emotional about comparisons with parosis :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    If u want to select players based on fielding the we should also select ahmed shehzad. And sri lankan condition always favour fast bowling its not as dreadful as uae pitches for fast bowlers. As i said before australia is as dreadful in asia as india is in outside asia say goodbye to your good and rosy home season real challenge is coming lets see how your next kapil dev tutn out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Yes 12 runs off the last over are good according to your standards....
    Thank God India were not defending 15 runs off the last over..
    Even Kohli would have defended 19 runs off the last over there is no need to praise him..Chahal must be praised for his amazing over..Pandya deserves no credit..atleast not for the last over
    As far as I know 12 is less than 15.

    It's the last over. Of course the batsman are going to swing at everything. Just one boundary in the over is not bad.

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    fahim is so overrated


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Because he got a test century against Lankans against whom your main batsmen failed at home and also had a MOS against Australia.And regarding his bowling, he bowled much faster then your main bowlers against Lankans in more hot and humid conditions and came out with better averages and wickets.And his fielding is way better than any player in your history.So yeah, he has done quite a lot.
    Jesus, trolling aside why are you so touchy?

    No one here is calling Pandya a mediocre talent but the way you lot act is as tho he's only needs to beat Ben Stokes to reach that Imran Khan level already while it's blasphemous naming anyone else with him. I can name like 5 allrounders who have done more than him that are not compared to top level talents yet you lot are here claiming Dev 2.0 is here.

    It's a bit OTT comparing him to Fahim atm due to Fahim being so new on the scene however they both have very similar ceilings. Neither are ATG talents, both are just good talents. Fahim from what it seems will be superior in bowling and vice versa with Pandya regarding that bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    I don't understand the inferiority complex of some Pakistani fans. They will come and bash our own players at every opportunity but will hype Indian and non Pakistani players to the moon. I know it hurts that Pakistan won the CT despite having 'phateechar' players but please start appreciating your own too.

    Before CT i clearly remember; "Fakhar is mediocre, Faheem is mediocre, Rumman is mediocre" and Pandya is world class? Fact is Pakistani mediocre players helped us to win the CT which will be remembered for a long time while Pandya who is world class hasn't done anything substantial for his team till now. It was understandable to criticize the poor team under Misbah, Afridi and Waqar but dont understand the hate against this young Pak side. Aakhir chahtay kia ho bhayyun?
    Ahhhh man! I really enjoyed this thread. I just love that "inferiority complex". Your statment resonates with me and always wondered that why are we so afraid to be excited about our young players. I mentioned on a poster last year mentioning young players who'll play for Pakistan very successfully and half of them won us the CT. I just think we're scarred by the previous predictions we as a collective nation have made. Mamoon bhai and co. will snap out of it eventually.

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    Lets judge this after sometime, let them play for a year or two 1st and then lets see
    Fahim looks talented but Pakistan is very poor at nurturing talent these days , whereas they way Dravid and his team helped Pandya on A-tour and the way Dhoni, Kohli and team management has backed Pandya he has improved a lot.
    I am not sure what franchise Fahim plays for and who are the people he shares dressing room with in PSL but pandya is also lucky in that way

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    Also, let me just throw one more name into the mix. Ammad Butt looks a good prospect. Hits the ball clean and sweet and bowls quite quick as well. Tbh, this Pandya lad is better compared to Hammad Azam than to be compared to Faheem Ashraf (has a different skill set). Right handed Late-to-Middle Order batsmen who can use the long handle when set and who'll bowl about 6 to 7 overs. But one flaw which is apparent in Hardik's game is that he can only hit spinners while stationary on the crease. Oppositions have seemed to figure this out and just bowl at his legs, forcing him to play the sweep, which is unnatural to him. Faheem Ashraf on the other hand, is an absolutely ferocious hitter. If you don't believe me, just watch his innings vs Bangladesh Warm Up Match (the reactions of the crowd are hilarious). He doesn't use his front arm while bowling as much. If Azhar Mahmood Bhai fixes that, he'll gain atleast 5 more K's and a hostile indipper. All in all, both have great potential and I as a cricket fan am excited to see who'll end up where. Although my gut says that Faheem bhai is going to a very very good allrounder and will conquer the world with his hitting (don't ridcule me, it's my gut, which might be tilted because of patriotism ). But in all seriousness, my gut is very rarely incorrect, and he will achieve In Sha Allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Ok, he can bat!

    But he isn't special as a batsman. He will not play in India's next test match, will be dropped.
    Again, I am proved right. Even with a century in his last innings he has been dropped. It was clear he isn't good enough for international cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Again, I am proved right. Even with a century in his last innings he has been dropped. It was clear he isn't good enough for international cricket.
    Your biased against Indian players is a joke. He's been rested for this series. BCCI have confirmed this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Again, I am proved right. Even with a century in his last innings he has been dropped. It was clear he isn't good enough for international cricket.
    It is true. He has been dropped not rested because pandya was unable to keep up with fahem , the 6 test centuries and 4 odi centuries fahem has managed in the last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Your biased against Indian players is a joke. He's been rested for this series. BCCI have confirmed this .
    Quote Originally Posted by mp812rediff View Post
    It is true. He has been dropped not rested because pandya was unable to keep up with fahem , the 6 test centuries and 4 odi centuries fahem has managed in the last few months.
    Where have you seen player rested for test matches?

    He was originally selected for the squad and the "rested", why? What has happened in between for the selectors to rest him?
    He has proved that he is not test quality player, they know his bowling is useless and he is not able to bat in the top 6. His recent performances against new zealand have prompted the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Where have you seen player rested for test matches?

    He was originally selected for the squad and the "rested", why? What has happened in between for the selectors to rest him?
    He has proved that he is not test quality player, they know his bowling is useless and he is not able to bat in the top 6. His recent performances against new zealand have prompted the decision.
    MUMBAI: Hardik Pandya has been withdrawn from India's squad for the first two Tests against Sri Lanka to manage the all-rounder's heavy workload, the country's cricket board (BCCI) said on Friday.

    The 24-year-old seamer and hard-hitting batsman has been a regular member of the Indian side in all three formats of the game and has been playing non-stop since the Champions Trophy in England in June.

    Pandya was named in India's squad for the first two Tests against Sri Lanka and no replacement has been named.

    "The all-India senior selection committee in consultation with the Indian team management has decided to rest all-rounder Hardik Pandya for the upcoming Test series against Sri Lanka," the BCCI said in a statement.

    "Considering Pandya's heavy recent workload, the decision was made to negate any possibility of a major injury concern.

    "Pandya will undergo a period of strength and conditioning at the National Cricket Academy in Bengaluru."
    Kolkata's Eden Gardens will host the opening match of the three-Test series from Thursday with the second and third Tests in Nagpur and Delhi.

    India will also play three one-day internationals and the same number of T20s against Sri Lanka.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/61594645.cms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Where have you seen player rested for test matches?

    He was originally selected for the squad and the "rested", why? What has happened in between for the selectors to rest him?
    He has proved that he is not test quality player, they know his bowling is useless and he is not able to bat in the top 6. His recent performances against new zealand have prompted the decision.
    It's due to the amount of games ,that's why he's been rested. Lol if he scored a century in his last test why would they drop him ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    It's due to the amount of games ,that's why he's been rested. Lol if he scored a century in his last test why would they drop him ?
    As you are quite new to the Cricket world, You may not know that teams rest their players from ODI’s and T20’s in case of heavy workload, not in Tests.

    He is dropped because India knows he ads nothing as a 5th bowler and will not be in the top 6 Indian batsmen. So no place for him.

    What kind of heavy workload is he through? He has played a total of 2 test matches, on average bats 25 balls and bowl 3 overs per match...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    MUMBAI: Hardik Pandya has been withdrawn from India's squad for the first two Tests against Sri Lanka to manage the all-rounder's heavy workload, the country's cricket board (BCCI) said on Friday.

    The 24-year-old seamer and hard-hitting batsman has been a regular member of the Indian side in all three formats of the game and has been playing non-stop since the Champions Trophy in England in June.

    Pandya was named in India's squad for the first two Tests against Sri Lanka and no replacement has been named.

    "The all-India senior selection committee in consultation with the Indian team management has decided to rest all-rounder Hardik Pandya for the upcoming Test series against Sri Lanka," the BCCI said in a statement.

    "Considering Pandya's heavy recent workload, the decision was made to negate any possibility of a major injury concern.

    "Pandya will undergo a period of strength and conditioning at the National Cricket Academy in Bengaluru."
    Kolkata's Eden Gardens will host the opening match of the three-Test series from Thursday with the second and third Tests in Nagpur and Delhi.

    India will also play three one-day internationals and the same number of T20s against Sri Lanka.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/61594645.cms
    Because you tought that BCCI will say he has been dropped in the official statement? 😒

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    As you are quite new to the Cricket world, You may not know that teams rest their players from ODI’s and T20’s in case of heavy workload, not in Tests.

    He is dropped because India knows he ads nothing as a 5th bowler and will not be in the top 6 Indian batsmen. So no place for him.

    What kind of heavy workload is he through? He has played a total of 2 test matches, on average bats 25 balls and bowl 3 overs per match...

    I am not new to cricket .

    Lol he's played 30 ODIs out of 33. He's played most of the IPL and also took part in the CT. He's had a heavy workload according to the BCCI who will monitor his fitness and workload so I think they are in a better place to make judgments rather than a biased Pakistan fan.

    If he doesn't start vs South Africa in the tests , that means he would have been dropped.

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    Good hitting, but still has to prove against big teams.

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    People need to stop getting excited after Every faheem performance, and every pandya failure. Just give them a year and see what happens.

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    Hardik showing his class.

    I say this again. He'll cost us many IMPORTANT matches, with his bowling.

    He's not good to be a third seamer. And also poor against Pace.

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    Ganguly and Tendulkar were better more effective bowling options then Pandya

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    Pandya is nowhere near the finished product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finisher View Post
    Ganguly and Tendulkar were better more effective bowling options then Pandya
    nah yar!

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    According to posters over here, Pandya should be dropped

    Thankfully, you guys are not Selectors

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    According to posters over here, Pandya should be dropped

    Thankfully, you guys are not Selectors
    I don’t think I would play him in the SA test series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    According to posters over here, Pandya should be dropped

    Thankfully, you guys are not Selectors
    lolz.pandya will be fisrt pick in any team.though i think Faahim will be up there with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    I don’t think I would play him in the SA test series.
    As a 4th pacer, he will be fine on SA pitches.

    BK/Shami/Ishant/Pandya/Ashwin will be the attack for 1st Test.

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    Still showing that he's an average bowler but a pretty talented batsman. Odd seeing an Indian bump his failures tho, so much for 'don't bump the good Faheem performances and Pandya bad' lol.

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    Even an injured Fahim can bowl better than Pandya.

    Pandya can only dream of having a bowling average of below 25 like Ashraf

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    As a 4th pacer, he will be fine on SA pitches.

    BK/Shami/Ishant/Pandya/Ashwin will be the attack for 1st Test.
    Don't think they'll drop someone who has been their most successful pacer over the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Even an injured Fahim can bowl better than Pandya.

    Pandya can only dream of having a bowling average of below 25 like Ashraf
    Easy bro, I like Faheem a lot but give him time to stabalize that below 25 average when he has played an extensive amount of games.


    "The Indian bowling attack is as devastating as the Teletubbies"- Sir Ian Botham

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    Mr Best-Allrounder-in-the-world hasn't had a fantastic outing with the ball today. 5 fours in one over! Lets see how he does with the bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBallZombie View Post
    Mr Best-Allrounder-in-the-world hasn't had a fantastic outing with the ball today. 5 fours in one over! Lets see how he does with the bat.
    8 -1 -44-0

    Not bad for your 5th bowler.

    Yes, he needs to bowl better when batsmen are attacking him. By the way, this pitch is a road. BK and Bumrah are also going at over 5/over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBallZombie View Post
    Mr Best-Allrounder-in-the-world hasn't had a fantastic outing with the ball today. 5 fours in one over! Lets see how he does with the bat.
    Thanks for inspiring him. He gets his first wicket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    Thanks for inspiring him. He gets his first wicket.
    Ends with 2 Wickets in 10 overs for 49 runs.

    He did his job. But he needs to improve when the batsmen start going after him.

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    Best alrounder fails again...


    But but but he is the best finisher in world cricket and has better hitting ability than Lala

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Best alrounder fails again...


    But but but he is the best finisher in world cricket and has better hitting ability than Lala
    When Lala had good reflexes and when he was in the mood - he was a treat to watch against pace and spin. And this Pandya guy can only dream of that power against pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    When Lala had good reflexes and when he was in the mood - he was a treat to watch against pace and spin. And this Pandya guy can only dream of that power against pace.
    As per PP experts he can hit bigger than Lala

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    When Lala had good reflexes and when he was in the mood - he was a treat to watch against pace and spin. And this Pandya guy can only dream of that power against pace.
    Lala is currently over 40 and still twice the hitter this joke of a cricket is.

    Over everything, Pandya was said to be better than Abdul Razaaq.

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    Success went to this chap's head pretty quick it seems. Sad because we needed him to in prime form before SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proactive_ View Post
    Success went to this chap's head pretty quick it seems. Sad because we needed him to in prime form before SA.
    I don't think the problem is within his head, he is just not good enough for international cricket.
    Don't think he will play in South Africa, I will love him to play as I support South Africa, but India will go with Rohit Sharma at 6.

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    Why write him off already?

    Ill be honest and say that I dont like him for some reason, maybe because he looks arrogant sometimes but he his pretty good. During the CT Final i was really nervous when he was batting because I really taught he could bring India home.
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    He is an exciting prospect;he needs to be given some time before we write him off.Whether we like it or not,he has the potential to be the best all-rounder of modern day cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirforpresident View Post
    Why write him off already?

    Ill be honest and say that I dont like him for some reason, maybe because he looks arrogant sometimes but he his pretty good. During the CT Final i was really nervous when he was batting because I really taught he could bring India home.
    Agreed. He's very young so can improve still and I am Pakistani saying this. Think people shouldn't start slating him based on a few failures.

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    He will take time to develop. Shouldn't write him off after a few failures . He will come good imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    I don't think the problem is within his head, he is just not good enough for international cricket.
    Don't think he will play in South Africa, I will love him to play as I support South Africa, but India will go with Rohit Sharma at 6.
    Fair enough. I'd still take a mediocre fast bowling all rounder over Talent Sharma in SA any day though. But Alas, Pandya's form has indeed been pretty horrible.

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    The only issue I see here for Ashraf is that he hardly gets enough playing time at international level to develop himself and establish himself.

    Pandya on the other hand is playing every other week for India because India just have so many fixtures throughout the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proactive_ View Post
    Fair enough. I'd still take a mediocre fast bowling all rounder over Talent Sharma in SA any day though. But Alas, Pandya's form has indeed been pretty horrible.
    Maybe it's the fact that I rate Rohit but Rohit is a perfect number 6 for India in South Africa. If the wickets are a little bowling friendly the top order will probably fail and Sharma can be very good to ad a 70-80 after the new ball.

    Honestly, I don't see Pandya taking a wicket unless a batsman tries to hit him for a 6 and on any track bat against Morkel-Rabada, Steyn-Philander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He will take time to develop. Shouldn't write him off after a few failures . He will come good imo.
    You and others maybe shouldn't have made him a superstar in the first place after a few good performances.

    Personnally, didn't waited for him to fail recently to say he is not international level player, saying it from day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    You and others maybe shouldn't have made him a superstar in the first place after a few good performances.

    Personnally, didn't waited for him to fail recently to say he is not international level player, saying it from day one.

    I didn't make him out to be a superstar. I said he has talent and I back him to good.

    Unlike you I judge on ability and talent not on which nationality a player is from.

    An Indian player performing for some reason gives you nightmares and even praising one is beneath you which is scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    You and others maybe shouldn't have made him a superstar in the first place after a few good performances.

    Personnally, didn't waited for him to fail recently to say he is not international level player, saying it from day one.
    I personally feel our Vijay Shankar is a better prospect than this over-confident hack Pandya! I agree that he had few good performances, but this lad is very inconsistant! He takes a wicket and leaks runs the next over, he hits a six and a four nd gets out the next ball. Just doesn't instill any confidence! On the other hand, players like Vijay Shankar, Sidharth Kaul are finding it hard to make it to playing 11 because this hack is occupying their spots. I see Pandya as only as best Fielder these days and not sure if he comes any good in SA. Time has the answer!
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    He bowled very well today with pace.
    Highest speed 144K.

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    He looked at his best with the ball in the last match in the series. Getting into form just at the right time. I wonder if people criticizing even watched him play. He definitely has potential to be a great. You don't win Man of the Series against Australia in your first full series that easily. I think he will be more successful in tests. In LOIs, he has to go after pace bowlers right from the word go. He is still not 100% against hitting quick bowlers. But have never seen him uncomfortable against defending the same quick pacers. In tests, he will have time to settle down and take calculated risks.


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