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  1. #161
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    Fakhar needs to bat carefully against bhuvi

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    It's 65-35 in favour of India . When India chasing in big games .big advantage for India chasing , knowing the target they can pace their inning accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    They are very unpredictable...so you never know.
    God dammit, I could have gotten better odds after the toss

    Considering cashing out now and taking the small loss.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

  4. #164
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    Both Pakistan and India padded up their batting by including Imad and Ashwin. I can understand where Pakistan is coming from. But India? *headshake*

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    Pakistani management is utterly useless!


    Sehwag and Steyn are the Best.

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    Not bad for pakistan. Should target 300 and get malik early

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    I'm literally shaking right now, because of how excited I am!


    IN PAKISTAN LIES OUR DELIVERANCE,DEFENCE, AND HONOUR.
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    Dumb decision by our management to play 2 spinners on this track. We needed both Shami and Umesh instead of Ash/Jaddu especially considering thst Hardik is now our 1st change seamer


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    India's odds up to 3.18

    I messed up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Guys stop with the negative posts and negative thinking.

    Pakistan still have a chance - they just need to bat well which is possible given last game.

    Biggest concern I have is strike rotation but hopefully they do it good today.

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    Whats the logic behind playing both Shadab and Imad? Ridiculous

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    20%-80% now . congrats india . we are gonna make 225 max.

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    1)Pakistan have killed themselves with this team selection.

    2)Imad's inclusion is going to prove disastrous.

    3) Faheem's batting could have proved to be useful.

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    Only Pakistan could make such bizarre selections for a final.. Going with spin against India. Dropping the only bowler that's an expert at the death and will be severely missed today with india chasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    God dammit, I could have gotten better odds after the toss

    Considering cashing out now and taking the small loss.
    How much £££ you put on?

    Also, it's not a bad toss to lose; trust me on this, if it's a small amount and not something really huge then leave your stake.


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    250 or 300 it is all the same. Pakistan. Will need wickets. Period.


    While 350 may guarantee a win, I am looking forward to see how we bowl of the score is around 250-270. Our bowlers need to gun it today.

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    Shadab should not have been playing this match. , really poor strategy against india.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    should have played raees ...


    New Era of Team Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    How much £££ you put on?

    Also, it's not a bad toss to lose; trust me on this, if it's a small amount and not something really huge then leave your stake.
    $50 @ 2.8

    I was going to bet on India but the odds were horrible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    India's odds up to 3.18

    I messed up.
    Lol Feel for you. If Pakistan gets a decent Start, you can cash out with no loss or even a small profit.

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    Mind boggling decision about Imad I would have taken either Rumman or faheem... any how good luck.

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    Sky saying that outfield is pretty damp and that may prevent any reverse swing. Water was visibly coming up to the surface when they pushed down on it.

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    Inexcusable if we crawl to 260 on this pancake. 300 is the minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Guys stop with the negative posts and negative thinking.

    Pakistan still have a chance - they just need to bat well which is possible given last game.

    Biggest concern I have is strike rotation but hopefully they do it good today.
    It's a final and it's not a bad toss to lose, yes it is India's strength chasing but people need to look at the bigger picture. India start as the favourites but we should get a good game iA, proud of the team regardless of the result and people should just relax


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    So both fans are disgruntled about selection of their teams. They always do that don't they? I was almost dead cert on seeing Shami or Umesh in action in place of Ashwin.

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    Let's take a moment to remember what happened the last time Sarfaraz captained Pakistan in the final of an ICC competition against India:


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    Guess I'll be breaking my TV later.... Pfffft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Pakistan's odds up to 3.18

    I messed up.
    Correction.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    ** team selection

    I was really hoping fahim Ashraf would play

    So now we are playing THREE spinners

    Spinners don't take you wickets against India

    And our only chance is to bowl India out. Trying to restrict the run scoring is not a plan that will work

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    290-310 should be the target. First hour will be crucial. Lose a few quick wickets and it's all over.

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    India chasing in a final. They are massive favourites from here.

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    In a way it's good we are bowling second as the reports suggest it is a bit damp. Hopefully with dry pitch and outfield in the second innings our bowlers will find some reverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    $50 @ 2.8

    I was going to bet on India but the odds were horrible.
    Dont worry. We got this one for you. We bowl india out. Will be nice cause they will have few runs to get but no wickets lefts.

    You heard it here.

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    Good opportunity for babar and azhar to play long innings.

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    I'm happy to bat first

    Get runs on the board, the score board pressure - specially in a final will always be there& bowling is our strength so it makes sense to do that when under pressure!

    In-Shaa-Allah hope the boys can get some runs on the board and give our bowlers something to bowl at.

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    Bangladesh was like 150/1 at one point.While setting targets opposition can come back any time.

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    Checking into PP after almost 3 years to wish both teams the best!



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    Everyone acting as though India are rubbish vs pace LOL.

    I would have played Raees for his ability to bowl at the death.

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    Stupid selections as expected. Conservative decision-making, once again, will be Pakistan's undoing. What a waste.

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    Chalo Atleast well know in the first 25 overs whether we have a chance in the match

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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    I'm literally shaking right now, because of how excited I am!
    If you are a Pakistani fan you will be shaking for other reasons after this match is done.

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    I hope Pakistan was prepared for their worst case one-two punch:
    one: losing toss to bat first
    two: fakhar dismissed early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorador View Post
    Stupid selections as expected. Conservative decision-making, once again, will be Pakistan's undoing. What a waste.
    Very very defensive selections

    Mind boggling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    Sky saying that outfield is pretty damp and that may prevent any reverse swing. Water was visibly coming up to the surface when they pushed down on it.
    Should dry out by the 2nd innings in this weather though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    I'm happy to bat first

    Get runs on the board, the score board pressure - specially in a final will always be there& bowling is our strength so it makes sense to do that when under pressure!

    In-Shaa-Allah hope the boys can get some runs on the board and give our bowlers something to bowl at.
    I agree, it's not a bad toss to lose; people need that POP! The wrist slitting has begun before the game has even started


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Guys stop with the negative posts and negative thinking.

    Pakistan still have a chance - they just need to bat well which is possible given last game.

    Biggest concern I have is strike rotation but hopefully they do it good today.
    Agreed. People crying like Faheem is McGrath. I would've played faheem for Imad too but that's the only change I would've made


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    Logon ka kaam hai kehna

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    Probably a good toss to lose.

    We can't chase anything more than 250, even then its usually the tail bailing us out.
    India surely would score more than 250 batting first and under pressure another Mohali would await us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosIndiosSonCucarachas View Post
    Why on earth are they playing spinners ? Didn't they see what happened last time?
    Both teams playing their spinners, it will be a batting contest..

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    Outfield is soaking. Why? There has been no rain in London. Hopefully won't affect the outfield too much in the early overs

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    I wanted us to bat first anyway but this team selection has left me bemused like many of us. May be its again one of those "out of box thinking" strategies we hv heard our team mgt talking about of late.

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    Probably the happiest man on earth is Sarfraz - didn't need to take the call. Ideally, he probably would have chased, but by probability, I think that was almost 0% call, because I don't back this PAK batting to chase 4 consecutive elimination matches by chasing.

    Both teams that lost batting first against IND was because of a middle order collapse, which they couldn't recover; today as well I think, it's the key - overs between 15 to 35 when 2 spinners will bowl to get middle order out. Interestingly, it wasn't India's regular bowlers that did the damage - 2 run outs for SAF & Jadhav picking the two highest scores when they were set. Probably, PAK picked Imad over Raees to cover that late middle order weakness, which now slightly more meaningful, because of batting first. At Oval, don't think Imad could have done anything bowling first, but now he can bea factor, defending anything over 275.

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    Ashwin does not bring anything to team except poor fielding. Shami or Umesh missed out on this.

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    Bad feelings about fakhar.he has three good innings so this maybe not his day today. I hope im wrong

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    The outfield is very wet, no idea why though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Very very defensive selections

    Mind boggling!
    I dont think its particularly defensive. they have a team they are comfortable with playing and winning with. why do you need to weaken batting.

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    Lets do this.

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    Good luck to both the teams. Hope our bowlers show who is the true boss!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Everyone acting as though India are rubbish vs pace LOL.
    Indeed and Shadab was only bowler to emerge with any credit after the Birmingham group match.

    I'd have dropped darter Imad not Shadab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Inexcusable if we crawl to 260 on this pancake. 300 is the minimum.
    With that soaking wet outfield the ball isn't going to run to the boundary for the first half of the innings. What the hell is that about?


    I for one welcome our new In____ overlords - Kent Brockman

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    Disaster. Unless we post 320+ we are going to lose. Can we post 320? I doubt it. Feeling like I just took a body blow!


    Greatness is a choice. Mediocrity is a disease.

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    Imad starting like I predicted hahahaha. Pakistan like shooting themselves in the foot.

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    300 is the bare minimum.

    Let's go boys!


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

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    We are winning this. I don't care who is batting, if this bowling is as good as we claim it is, we should be able to defend anything upwards of 250.

    It's time for our gun fast bowlers to come to the party. All it takes is 7 good balls to get the top 7. We can do it!

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    this 'gaana' app add is very annoying.

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    Cowards never win, especially not if you're Pakistan.

    EDIT: But I digress, we should be supporting our team regardless.

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    Minute silence for tragedies in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and London + Manchester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Agreed. People crying like Faheem is McGrath. I would've played faheem for Imad too but that's the only change I would've made
    Fahim isn't some great bowler

    Point is spinners don't get you wickets against India. And our only chance is to bowl India out. Restricting the run scoring won't help because if India have wickets in hand their batsmen will make up for any lost scoring like they did in first game (18 runs per over in the death overs)

    So having THREE spinners is a bit mind boggling

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    bad omen: ramiz is doing commentary

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Minute silence for tragedies in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and London + Manchester.
    What tragedies in Bangla and SL?

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    Put up 500. Bowl them out for 50. Easy work.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    Alright folks - lets try and set a target of 330+

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    Happy that we are batting first. If chasing is India's strength, if we beat them today, we are well and truly CHAMPIONS!! Go Pakistan!!

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    Well observed minute's silence for the Grenfell Tower fire and other diasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Fahim isn't some great bowler

    Point is spinners don't get you wickets against India. And our only chance is to bowl India out. Restricting the run scoring won't help because if India have wickets in hand their batsmen will make up for any lost scoring like they did in first game (18 runs per over in the death overs)

    So having THREE spinners is a bit mind boggling
    I want to remind that we had the game against india in reasonable control till we dropped catches. there's no need to play so many pacers.

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    why this darter get selected again?
    is he a new hafeez or what?
    fahim ashraf shouldve been there


    To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities.
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    What's that sound you all just heard?


    That, my friend, is the sound of millions of Pakistan fans groaning as the toss brings down their chance of winning from slim to none.
    Last edited by IndYeah1; 18th June 2017 at 10:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    We are winning this. I don't care who is batting, if this bowling is as good as we claim it is, we should be able to defend anything upwards of 250.

    It's time for our gun fast bowlers to come to the party. All it takes is 7 good balls to get the top 7. We can do it!
    Should have played fahim or Rumman in place of Imad/shadab

    I think Imad is a better batsman than fahim but he has looked a dud in this tournament whereas fahim looked decent in his cameo

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    Spinners wont get wickets, but also, given pakistan's weak batting with lack of aggressive batsmen, Fahim would have really helped set us a semi-decent score to chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    I agree, it's not a bad toss to lose; people need that POP! The wrist slitting has begun before the game has even started
    Yea man it's absolutely disgraceful to see some Pakistani 'fans' making posts as if, if we had bowled first or selected either Raees or Ashraf we would have been favorites all of a sudden?!

    We have had our backs against the wall throughout this competition & it is Sarfaraz and the team who have got us to this stage. Believe in the team and pray for the best In-Shaa-Allah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Bangladesh was like 150/1 at one point.While setting targets opposition can come back any time.
    We keep getting owned by unknown bowlers like Stuart Binny, kedar jhadhav.

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