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    Pakistan's squad for the 2019 World Cup

    My Squad
    01.Fakhar
    02.Sharjeel
    03.Azhar
    04.Babar
    05.Sarfaraz
    06.Hafeez
    07.Fahim
    08.Imad
    09.Umar Amin
    10.Shadab
    11.Amir
    12.Hassan
    13.Junaid
    14.Abbas
    15.Rumman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajjad-007 View Post
    My Squad
    01.Fakhar
    02.Sharjeel
    03.Azhar
    04.Babar
    05.Sarfaraz
    06.Hafeez
    07.Fahim
    08.Imad
    09.Umar Amin
    10.Shadab
    11.Amir
    12.Hassan
    13.Junaid
    14.Abbas
    15.Rumman
    Very Strong Squad.

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    Thanks.I think pak will win the wc 2019.Lets see .

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    You have selected an excellent squad right in the first post itself. Don't think there can be any further debates.

    Hopefully all the players remain fit during the passage of the tournament.

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    No Malik? I haven't been his biggest fan in recent years but his record since coming back into the side after the 2015 World cup speaks for itself.

    36 matches
    1250 runs
    53.12 average
    110.79 strike rate
    2 hundreds
    8 fifties

    Whilst playing in England and Australia. Those are World class stats.

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    There's still two years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    There's still two years.
    Exactly. Who knows what will happen in that period. Insensible to even think about it now. PCB itself needs to do lot of ground work for the event.

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    If sharjeel is unavillable I will pick sahibzada farhan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajjad-007 View Post
    If sharjeel is unavillable I will pick sahibzada farhan.
    What about Ahmad Shahzad? He has the class and the talent.

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    There's still a while yet some players may lose form or get injured while the next two PSL might find us a few more quality players. But this is the squad we should work around.

    1, Fakhar Zaman
    2, Azhar Ali
    3, Babar Azam
    4, Haris Sohail
    5, Shoaib Malik
    6, Sarfraz Ahmed
    7, Shadab Khan
    8, Faheem Ashraf
    9, Mohammad Amir
    10, Hasan Ali
    11, Junaid Khan

    12, Mohammad Hafeez
    13, Imad Wasim
    14, Rumman Raes
    15, Umar Amin/Sharjeel Khan if he's back and firing


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    1. Fakhar Zaman
    2. Sharjeel Khan
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Sarfaraz Ahmed
    5. Shoaib Malik or Mohammad Hafeez
    6. Hussain Talat
    7. Imad Wasim
    8. Shadab Khan
    9. Mohammad Amir
    10. Hassan Ali
    11. Junaid Khan

    12. Sahibzada Farhan
    13. Haris Sohail
    14. Faheem Ashraf
    15. Rumman Raees

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarar View Post
    No Malik? I haven't been his biggest fan in recent years but his record since coming back into the side after the 2015 World cup speaks for itself.

    36 matches
    1250 runs
    53.12 average
    110.79 strike rate
    2 hundreds
    8 fifties

    Whilst playing in England and Australia. Those are World class stats.
    runs: 1275
    SR: 100.79

    Averaged 75.63, sr 109.18 2 hundreds 6 50s against the 7-12 ranked odi sides

    Averaged 34.07,sr 88.07, 0 hundreds 2 50s against the top 5
    per innings avg;27.68
    per match;26.05

    All in all: his 2 50s both against Eng:
    1) 4thodi,dubai,15 : batting track eng making 355 and pak replying with 270 in 40o Result , But A great SR
    2)5thodi,cardiff,16 : pak chasing with sensational chase of safi and malik to get a consolation win Result: A good knock in a tense situation, the only great knock i have seen since the WC15 worth praising..

    Overall analysis(the top 5): I would pick him only if he can bowl; as a replacement of Hafeez at number 5/6. if he can duplicate those 2 innings in atleast 9 of the 16 he actually did, if cannot ruin someone like fakhar zaman or shadab khan's talent , playing for the past 18 and 20 if plays the WC2019,if he can be the sangakarra of our next world cup and if, ending on a high note for once, get glory for the nation and be a role model for the youngsters who played 20 years of cricket for "......" @zarar i will leave that for u or the malik to answer that,kudos
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    selecting a pool from which to pick:

    openers
    fakhar zaman
    sahibzada farhan
    sharjeel khan
    azhar ali
    sami aslam
    kamran akmal
    hussain talat*
    mohammad hafeez*

    3: Babar Azam

    Middle Order: pos: 4-6
    sarfaraz ahmed
    shoaib malik
    haris sohail
    umar amin
    mohammad rizwan
    umar akmal
    mohammad hafeez*
    hussain talat*

    spin allrounders: (will be available to bowl 4-7 overs each match;must)
    imad wasim
    mohammad hafeez
    shoaib malik

    spinners
    shadab khan
    mohammad asghar

    pace-allrounders(4-7 overs must)
    hussain talat
    faheem ashraf
    amir yamin

    pacers
    mohammad amir
    junaid khan
    mohammad irfan(7ftr)
    hasan ali
    sohail khan
    rumman raees
    mohammad abbas

    keepers
    sarfaraz
    mohammad rizwan
    umar akmal
    kamran akmal


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajjad-007 View Post
    My Squad
    01.Fakhar
    02.Sharjeel
    03.Azhar
    04.Babar
    05.Sarfaraz
    06.Hafeez
    07.Fahim
    08.Imad
    09.Umar Amin
    10.Shadab
    11.Amir
    12.Hassan
    13.Junaid
    14.Abbas
    15.Rumman

    We shouldn't presume to know two years ahead of the WC what are our options.

    We just won a CT in which players who proved crucial to our success - Fakhar, and Junaid - were not even even first choice starters.

    The next two years should not see a moratorium on development of new players. And the form of current players is not likely to be eternal.

    Even the most ardent Malik and Hafeez supporters must acknowledge that it is unwise to enter 2019 with no potential backups for players this old.

    The most important principle underlying selection for the 2019 WC is that selection for the 2019 WC should not happen until 2019.

    What we should hope to see from now until 2019 is more exposure for young players like Rumman and Faheem and Yamin, and uncapped performers like Sahibzada.

    The only players who seem more or less certain starters, barring grievous dips in form, would be Sarfraz, Hasan, Amir, Fakhar, possibly Babar. Even Junaid and certainly Azhar should face stiff competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhsanAK View Post
    selecting a pool from which to pick:

    15 man squad would include:
    1-3: openers;1 defense,2 attack
    1 defense from azhar,aslam
    2 attack from fakhar,farhan,sharjeel,

    4:Babar azam

    5:Haris Sohail/Umar Amin

    6:Sarfaraz Ahmed

    7:1 from shadab/asghar

    8-9: from imad,hafeez,malik

    10:hussaintalat/faheem/yamin

    11: rizwan/Uakmal/Kakmal

    12-15: 4 pacers from
    amir
    hasan
    junaid
    /irfan
    rumman/sohail/abbas

    the bold marked above would part of my 15 squad; where the gamble of 2nd keeper or the inclusion of umar amin will remain a prospect to decide

    My 15 man WC19

    fakhar zaman
    sharjeel khan
    babar azam
    haris sohail
    sarfaraz ahmed
    hafeez/malik
    imad wasim
    shadab khan
    mohammad amir
    hasan ali
    junaid khan

    sami aslam
    faheem ashraf
    rumman raees
    rizwan/umar akmal/ umar amin
    Last edited by AhsanAK; 14th July 2017 at 10:05.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AhsanAK View Post
    runs: 1275
    SR: 100.79

    Averaged 75.63, sr 109.18 2 hundreds 6 50s against the 7-12 ranked odi sides

    Averaged 34.07,sr 88.07, 0 hundreds 2 50s against the top 5
    per innings avg;27.68
    per match;26.05

    All in all: his 2 50s both against Eng:
    1) 4thodi,dubai,15 : batting track eng making 355 and pak replying with 270 in 40o Result , But A great SR
    2)5thodi,cardiff,16 : pak chasing with sensational chase of safi and malik to get a consolation win Result: A good knock in a tense situation, the only great knock i have seen since the WC15 worth praising..

    Overall analysis(the top 5): I would pick him only if he can bowl; as a replacement of Hafeez at number 5/6. if he can duplicate those 2 innings in atleast 9 of the 16 he actually did, if cannot ruin someone like fakhar zaman or shadab khan's talent , playing for the past 18 and 20 if plays the WC2019,if he can be the sangakarra of our next world cup and if, ending on a high note for once, get glory for the nation and be a role model for the youngsters who played 20 years of cricket for "......" @zarar i will leave that for u or the malik to answer that,kudos
    Malik's bowling these days is completely useless. Worse even than Hafeez, who averages 45 since 2013 and has failed to take wickets at all against most strong opposition since that time. A few overs of Azhar and Haris and Fakhar does the same job.

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    5 man squad would include:
    1-3: openers;1 defense,2 attack
    1 defense from azhar,aslam
    2 attack from fakhar,farhan,sharjeel,

    4:Babar azam

    5:Haris Sohail/Umar Amin

    6:Sarfaraz Ahmed

    7:1 from shadab/asghar

    8-9: from imad,hafeez,malik

    10:hussaintalat/faheem/yamin

    11: rizwan/Uakmal/Kakmal

    12-15: 4 pacers from
    amir
    hasan
    junaid/irfan
    rumman/sohail/abbas

    the bold marked above would part of my 15 squad; where the gamble of 2nd keeper or the inclusion of umar amin will remain a prospect to decide

    My 15 man WC19

    fakhar zaman
    sharjeel khan
    babar azam
    haris sohail
    sarfaraz ahmed
    hafeez/malik
    imad wasim
    shadab khan
    mohammad amir
    hasan ali
    junaid khan

    sami aslam
    faheem ashraf
    rumman raees
    rizwan/umar akmal/ umar amin

    Good analysis.

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    [QUOTE=Sajjad-007;9372385]5 man squad would include:
    1-3: openers;1 defense,2 attack
    1 defense from azhar,aslam
    2 attack from fakhar,farhan,sharjeel,

    4:Babar azam

    5:Haris Sohail/Umar Amin

    6:Sarfaraz Ahmed

    7:1 from shadab/asghar

    8-9: from imad,hafeez,malik

    10:hussaintalat/faheem/yamin

    11: rizwan/Uakmal/Kakmal

    12-15: 4 pacers from
    amir
    hasan
    junaid/irfan
    rumman/sohail/abbas

    the bold marked above would part of my 15 squad; where the gamble of 2nd keeper or the inclusion of umar amin will remain a prospect to decide

    My 15 man WC19

    fakhar zaman
    sharjeel khan
    babar azam
    haris sohail
    sarfaraz ahmed
    hafeez/malik
    imad wasim
    shadab khan
    mohammad amir
    hasan ali
    junaid khan

    sami aslam
    faheem ashraf
    rumman raees
    rizwan/umar akmal/ umar am

    Agree with u.

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    This is Pakistan!

    It's impossible to pick a team for 2 years, some players will be lost through loss of form, some will retire and of course controversy...either get banned for drugs, fixing or even genital warts ...who knows ??

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    Sharjeel Khan
    Fakhar Zaman
    Babar Azam
    Sarfaraz Ahmed
    Haris Sohail / Shoaib Malik
    Shoaib Malik / M. Hafeez
    Shadab Khan
    Imad Waseem
    M. Amir
    Hasan Ali
    Junaid Khan

    Azhar Ali (tricky Pitch) (3rd Opener)
    (Hitting all-rounder) Faheem Ashraf / Amad Butt
    (Batting all-rounder)Hussain Talat / Amir Yameen

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    In Pakistan things don't work like this. They will never learn it seems. 2 years, everything can happen, maybe half of the names mentioned in OP wont be around then. So predicting a pakistani team two years from now is useless I am afraid.


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    Predicating a team now for 2 years should be a useless exercise but I wont be surprised if 90% of the teams mentioned reflects the actual squad!
    The lesson of CT success was play aggressive batsmen who can get ahead of the run rate and pick wicket taking bowlers.
    This a golden opportunity to find unearth, blood and get ready new talent yet pp are still talking about Malik and Hafeez.
    Case in point is Farkhar Zaman, who should of been in the team much earlier but wasn't because of the selectors pre occupation with players seniors like shezhad, hafeez, malik etc


    "Where you start from is as important as what you do"

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    Sharjeel
    Babar
    Fakhar
    Harris
    Sarfaraz
    ............
    Fahim Ashraf / Yamine
    Shadab
    Amir
    Hassan
    Ruman / Junaid

    Pakistan need a dynamic batsman at number 6.

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    Khuda ka khauf karo... its two years away

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    If team is to compete for title, AT LEAST 6 spots (out of 15) has to change. I can't tell names yet, but 2 years is enough time to find those. WC isn't CT, where teams need to play 5 matches in 15 days - it's 11 matches in just about 35 days; teams' official average age has to come down to <29. Confirmed 7 or 8 younger (below that average now) players will be 2 years older by then - hence, chopping has to done at other end.

    Can't write now, because Roger is running towards it in 3 sets ..........

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    Need 3 players to emerge in thw next 2 years.

    Batsman
    All rounder
    Pace bowler

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    WC 2019 will be long for teams as they have to mandatorily play 9 group games before semis.. so 2 wicket keepers will be there..

    Sarfi and obviously Rizwan/someone else

    Umar akmal looks out of scene now, for he did not attend training camp saying he needs to undergo knee operation.. That's his seriousness

    squad looks ok..

    for one change

    + Asif
    - Abbas

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    Sharjeel/Azhar/Shehzad (If Sharjeel is banned)
    Fakhar
    Azam
    Sohail
    Hafeez/Azhar
    Open spot (Malik if he improves his performance)
    Sarfraz
    Imad/Nawaz/Fahim (There will be competition in this spot)
    Shadab
    Amir
    Ali
    Junaid


    It might be to harsh to axe Hafeez cuz Pakistan would need some senior talent in the team and also he can be useful at his batting position like his performance against India in the final in the death overs to bring Pakistan to 338 when they were losing wickets and Malik needs to step up a bit more to be worthy of making the team or else the axe will hit him and Harris Sohail is a useful allrounder who has been ignored by selectors. They did their job of axing Akmal and Riaz and

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    1.Azhar Ali.
    2.Fakhar Zaman.
    3.Babar Azam.
    4.Shoaib Malik.
    5.Umar Amin.
    6.Sarfraz Ahmed.
    7.Fahim Ashraf.
    8.Shadab Khan.
    9.Mohammad Amir.
    10.Hassan Ali.
    11.Junaid Khan.
    12.Rumman Raees.
    13.Mohammad Asghar.
    14.Harris Sohail.
    15.Hussain Talat.

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    I am very much hoping there will be one or two names in the 2019 squad. It is still TWO years away. That's a long time.

    Also, if the 2019 squad includes Shezad, any Akmal, Wahab, Malik, Hafeez, I would be disappointed.

    We need a new paceman an allrounder and another top batsman in the 2019 squad.

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    @The Googly Hafeez is useful down the order after his performance against india in death overs but he can do bad or good but lets see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    @The Googly Hafeez is useful down the order after his performance against india in death overs but he can do bad or good but lets see
    If you double check how many boundaries were hit in the last five overs, I am sure you will change your mind about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36;9379329[B
    ]If you double check how many boundaries[/B] were hit in the last five overs, I am sure you will change your mind about that.
    The death overs are the last 10 overs and Wasim and Hafeez were hitting tons of boundaries but then they slowed down at the end. Boundaries arent everything. You could score lots of runs with a low number of boundaries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    The death overs are the last 10 overs and Wasim and Hafeez were hitting tons of boundaries but then they slowed down at the end. Boundaries arent everything. You could score lots of runs with a low number of boundaries
    Were you watching the same match? Only three boundaries from the last five overs- not sure how that amounts to "tons of boundaries." It's widely accepted that Pakistan didn't finish as well as they could have done. With the platform that was set Pakistan should have easily reached 350/360.

    Putting all that aside, Hafeez will be (officially) 38 by the time WC19 starts. Not sure why you are so keen for his inclusion.

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    I said Hafeez and Wasim hit alot of boundaries in the last 10 overs but then slowed down towards the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    I said Hafeez and Wasim hit alot of boundaries in the last 10 overs but then slowed down towards the end.
    They hit nine boundaries in the last 10 overs- that is less than a boundary an over. So when did they hit the "tons of boundaries" you were talking about in the last ten overs?

    How can he be considered a good finisher when by your own admission he "slowed down towards the end?"

    PS. Don't forget Jadhav bowled in the last ten overs, and they could only manage to hit him for a couple of boundaries!
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    I corrected myself after i made the blunder and not all runs come from boundaries

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    We probably shouldnt even say anything about the seniors yet cause they might be good sometimes and bad sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    I corrected myself after i made the blunder and not all runs come from boundaries
    My friend, I will try one more time. You said they hit "tons of boundaries" in the last ten overs. Since when did nine boundaries in the space of 10 overs constitute "tons of boundaries"?

    In the words of Geoffrey Boycott, "my grandmother could hit more boundaries using her rolling pin."

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    I didnt count boundaries one by one watching the game

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    At least for pakistani level, that is a lot of boundaries

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    4-5 places are up for grabs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    4-5 places are up for grabs.
    Indeed. Need to unearth some batsmen. Hopefully the upcoming T20 Cup brings some new names to consider.

    As an aside, I was watching some highlights of Sohail's batting the other day- he really was (and hopefully still is) a beautiful stroke-maker. What position would you like to see him batting?

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    No.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post

    As an aside, I was watching some highlights of Sohail's batting the other day- he really was (and hopefully still is) a beautiful stroke-maker. What position would you like to see him batting?
    No 4 or no 3 (if Babar opens). Not lower than that.


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    I would take out Shoib Malik, Ruman Raees, Imad Wasim and Ahmed Shezad, and Wahab Riaz from the team.
    Add Sharjeel Khan for Ahmed Shezad. There was no sense of having 4 left arm bowlers in the squad. Pakistan needs to find one right arm express pace bowler and another swing bowler like Asif.
    All other replacements need to be better and match winners. Imad slot needs to go to a true all rounder. Shoib's spot needs to go to a real batsman and may be umer akmal can fix his problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    No 4 or no 3 (if Babar opens). Not lower than that.
    Agreed. Sarfaraz should also be in the top five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sali View Post
    I would take out Shoib Malik, Ruman Raees, Imad Wasim and Ahmed Shezad, and Wahab Riaz from the team.
    Add Sharjeel Khan for Ahmed Shezad. There was no sense of having 4 left arm bowlers in the squad. Pakistan needs to find one right arm express pace bowler and another swing bowler like Asif.
    All other replacements need to be better and match winners. Imad slot needs to go to a true all rounder. Shoib's spot needs to go to a real batsman and may be umer akmal can fix his problems.
    What has Raees done to deserve being dropped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sali View Post
    I would take out Shoib Malik, Ruman Raees, Imad Wasim and Ahmed Shezad, and Wahab Riaz from the team.
    Add Sharjeel Khan for Ahmed Shezad. There was no sense of having 4 left arm bowlers in the squad. Pakistan needs to find one right arm express pace bowler and another swing bowler like Asif.
    All other replacements need to be better and match winners. Imad slot needs to go to a true all rounder. Shoib's spot needs to go to a real batsman and may be umer akmal can fix his problems.
    No more Akmal in this squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Agreed. Sarfaraz should also be in the top five.
    He was a good opener

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    He was a good opener
    Don't think he should be an opener, doesn't have the power game. His game depends on running the single and doubles hard, with the first powerplay, might hamper him, especially versus good pace bowling attacks. Don't think he likes doing it either, since becoming captain, hasn't shown any desire to open.

    He is more suited to the 2 down position, would be ideal for him.

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    2 - Babar Azam
    3 - Umar Amin
    4 - Fakhar Zaman
    5 - Sarfraz (wk/c)
    6 - Mohd Hafeez
    7 - Hussain Talat
    8 - Imad Wasim
    9 - Mohd Aamir
    10 - Hasan Ali
    11 - Junaid Khan

    Subs -
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    13 - Shadab Khan
    14 - Fahim Ashraf
    15 - Rumman Raees
    16 - Haris Sohail

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    2. Fakhar Zaman
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    4. Shoaib Malik
    5. Mohammad Hafeez
    6. Sarfraz Ahmed
    7. Imad Wasim
    8. Shadab Khan
    9. Muhammud Amir
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    11. Junaid Khan
    Subs
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    13. Shehzad/Sami Aslam
    14. Harris Sohail
    15. Rumman Raees

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    Fakhar won't be in the team then for sure.


    Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.

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    Azhar Ali
    Fakhar zaman
    Babar azam
    Shoaib Malik
    Sarfraz Ahmed (c) (wk)
    Fahim Ashraf
    Imad Wasim
    Shadab Khan
    Mohammad Amir
    Hasan Ali
    Rumman Raees


    Haris sohail
    Amir yamin
    Sahibzada Farhan/ kamran akmal(spare keeper)
    Junaid Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    1. Azhar Ali
    2. Fakhar Zaman
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Shoaib Malik
    5. Mohammad Hafeez
    6. Sarfraz Ahmed
    7. Imad Wasim
    8. Shadab Khan
    9. Muhammud Amir
    10. Hasan Ali
    11. Junaid Khan
    Subs
    12. Sahibzada Farhan/Fahim Ashraf
    13. Shehzad/Sami Aslam
    14. Harris Sohail
    15. Rumman Raees
    Shehzad? Hafeez? No power hitters in starting xi also. Fahim is a must.

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    1. Azhar Ali
    2. Fakhar Zaman
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Malik
    5. Sarfaraz
    6. Imad Wasim
    7. Faheem Ashraf
    8. Shadab Khan
    9. Amir
    10. Hassan Ali
    11. Rumman Raees

    12. Aamer Yamin
    13. Shehzad
    14. Junaid Khan
    15. Haris Sohail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nil Dhumrojal View Post
    Fakhar won't be in the team then for sure.
    why??? he will be u dont know his work ethics in a struggling batting combination he will be for sure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    why??? he will be u dont know his work ethics in a struggling batting combination he will be for sure..
    Fakhar is a hack...not only fakhar but at least 3/4 more changes will happen in the meantime.


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    Fakhar
    Talat/Azhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfraz
    Malik/Yamin
    Shadab
    Imad/Fahim
    Amir
    Hasan
    Rumman/Ehtesham/Sadaf/Junaid
    Last edited by SarfiBabarHaris; 18th September 2017 at 14:43.


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    1.Fakhar zaman

    2.Ahmed shehzad

    3.Babar azam

    4.Harris sohail

    5.Shoaib malik (will be last wc 4 him)

    6.Sarfraz ahmed

    7.Imad wasim/aamer yaamin

    8.Shadab khan

    9.Mohd amer

    10.Hassan ali

    11.Junaid khan

    ....bench strength........
    12.Sahibzada farhan
    13.Hussain talat
    14.Umar akmal (TALENTED)
    15.Rumman raees
    16.Usman khan shinwari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nil Dhumrojal View Post
    Fakhar is a hack...not only fakhar but at least 3/4 more changes will happen in the meantime.
    most of the modern odi bats are not that great technically..as far sa he provides 30 4o sort of electric start,,he will be in tehe team,,

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    Standing right now, that 2019 WC is probably the most open WC since 1975 (when ODI game was baby), because of absence of any outstanding team. Aussies & SAF are probably at their weakest in last 25 years (AUS since 1985), India isn't that exciting either, while Poms will need to do lot more on field to match their off-field hype. Kiwis, SRL, WI are in serious decline; therefore I do believe that at least 7 teams including BD has a chance to make the SF, may be all 9 in this format - after that, it's about 2 outstanding day outs by any of the top 5 teams; which means any of AUS, ENG, IND, PAK, SAF can win it.

    To have a realistic shot at the WC, which will be played in June, 11 matches in 5 weeks or so, I see only 8, may be 9 players surviving from this team. Or other way, if 5/6 new faces are not integrated/found - don't see PAK winning it. I'll look for a combination of 16 players, for a WC in UK, in June. Not necessarily, every new face has to be in starting XI, but they must be good enough to force existing starters improve their out put, or lose the spot. Here is my combination -

    1. 3 Openers : Fakhar & best case scenario is Sharjeel & one new face. But, one of Azhar or Shehzad can be there, but no way both. Ideally, at least one of the 3 has to be lefti. Best case is probably - Fakhar, Sharjeel, Ahmed - not sure how good is Zeeshan Malik, but I would like to believe that in 2 years, he'll be better than both Ahmed or Azhar; Farhan is an outside shot, but long way to go for him.

    2. 4/3 Middle orders : Babar, Open spot, Open spot. I would like to see at least 1 lefti in this mix - Haris, subject to fitness & Amin may be enough, but PAK should find one more young middle order from junior ranks. At worst, one of MoHa or Malik can be picked for the squad, but no way both.

    3. 3/4 All-rounders : At most, PAK should carry 3 spinners; all of them are actually all-rounders, because of Shadab's potential - Shadab & Imad. I don't consider MoHa or Malik as all-rounder any more. Rest 2 has to be pace bowling all-rounders - may be one of Fahim or Yamin should make it, but not both - so one spot is still open. If he can improve his overall game, Aga Salman Ali has a decent shout, so is Usama Mir, but 3 spinners are difficult to accommodate in UK - last time Iqbal Qasim & Misbah did that in 2013, rest is as they say - history.

    4. 2 WKs : Sarfraz is obvious pick. For the other one, it has to be a batsman, who can make the team as batsman, but can keep. PAK can't go to WC of 9 confirmed matches in 29 days, with one WK who happens to be Captain & next best man in squad to keep is probably Babar. Unpopular choice, but Umar has to be kept in consideration - for that, he has to shape himself, or PAK goes for a new face, even like the kid Ruhail Nazir. Don't see any role for Rizwan, because at his best, as back-up WK, who can make the squad as batsman - still he isn't good enough to what is Umar Akmal right now. In AUS, Rizwan got 5 bites at the cherry - and he should have been demoted to No. 10 from 6, by the 5th match, on his batting merit.

    5. Spin Bowlers : I won't take any specialist spinner - one reason being there none outstanding one, neither the condition suits to play a specialist spinner. At best, both Imad & Shadab should play & that's enough - at worst, may be MoHa/Malik can be picked in XI for few overs of spin as 3rd spinner. BUT, PAK must keep Usama & Yasir (Or the other leggi Irfan) on toes, because if Shadab gets injured, one Leggi is a must for any ODI these days, for the batting quality these days against even non turning spin.

    6. 4 Pacers : At present, I see only 2 bowlers ready - Amir & Hasan. May be, if he improves his bowling to the level of 2012-13, JK can be the 3rd one; otherwise not, because by 2019, he'll be 29+, officially, with a dodgy knee and action; too risky to invest without alternatives in mind. PAK must find couple of new faces for those 2 spots - I am not sure who are those but these Raees, Hamza, Irfan, Sohail, Wahab, Shinwari ..... won't work. PAK's game tactics should be 3 flat out pacers to attack & 10 overs of attacking leg spin - last 10 overs can be shared by all-rounders. Those 2 new pacers are to use the new ball, partnering Amir as Hasan is doing great as 1st change, I won't move him to take the new ball.

    Don't know how good he is, but may be SS Afridi can be one of the 2 new faces (that makes the job tougher for JK - won't pick 3 lef-armers, unless the 3rd one is far better than 2nd best right armer). Both, have to be a good new ball bowler to partner Amir and preferably right armer. Apart from SS Afridi, other one is a toss between JK, Ehtesham, Irfan (shorter one at 6'4"), or may be entirely new face, I don't know - BUT, existing resources are not enough.

    If Sharjeel is available (which I think, he'll be), I would open with Babar & put Fakhar at 3 - that gives a good left-right combination, and Fakhar is better spin player while Babar is far better again pace, and his game is built on touch, should find gaps better in PP. SK's hitting ability should allow Babar to play natural game & it'll trouble bowling unit - for SK's ability to smash anything short while Babar is a fantastic driver on the rise; adjusting to sweet length & line will be a challenge for new ball pair. Otherwise, teams best batsman should bat at 3.

    So the 16 men squad stands for me -

    1. SK (Or Fakhar opens with the back-up opener & Babar goes to 3)
    2. Babar (Position depending on SK's availability)
    3. Fakhar (Bat's at 3 only if SK is available, otherwise swaps with Babar)
    4. *Sarfraz +
    5. Haris
    6. Umar (Must improve over all game & his defamed image, otherwise MoHa/Malik comes and this spot becomes open for a new face that's good with bat & can keep)
    7. Imad
    8. Shadab
    9. Amir
    10. Hasan
    11. Open spot (SS Afridi/Ehtesham/JK?)
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    12. Amin (Or Open spot - BUT no way both Mian/MoHa though this back door)
    13. Open spot (Ahmed/Azhar/Zeeshan/Farhan ?)
    14. Open spot (Ahmed/Azhar/Zeeshan/Farhan ? or Yamin/Fahim/Ammad/New kid ?)
    15. Open spot (JK/Ehtesham/SS Afridi/Irfan?)
    16. Open spot (MoHa/Malik/Aga Salman Ali/Mir ?)

    That's at least 5, up to 7 open spots to cover in 20 months - won't be easy, but indeed possible. Availability of talent was never an issue even in those 9th ranked days, but I don't see enough A team matches for PAK to test options within this one year period, because by Jan 2019, 19-20 players has to be locked, no more experiment. One good suggestion could be to play 5 X 3 = 15 ODIs against ZIM, IRL & AFG; where about 8/9 new faces are tried. Result doesn't matter here, because PAK A should win 15-0, but PAK 1st team got knocked out by IRL 10 years back - those are one off, one shouldn't bother for such odd day, as long as the bigger purpose is served. Problem is, if such series indeed take place, PAK might end up filling the squad with Amir, Hasan, Imad, Azhar, Shehzad, Malik, MoHa ..... who knows, even Gul, Kamran, Irfan, Wahab, Tannu, Annu .....

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    We need to give Talat, Fahim, Yamin long runs to establish themselves before 2019. Stop wasting time with TTFs FGS. Why in the world is Nawaz still around?

    Also imperative we get Sahibzada in and rid of Shehzad immediately. Difficult task this but hoping for the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    We need to give Talat, Fahim, Yamin long runs to establish themselves before 2019. Stop wasting time with TTFs FGS. Why in the world is Nawaz still around?

    Also imperative we get Sahibzada in and rid of Shehzad immediately. Difficult task this but hoping for the best.
    Yes, out of sight, out of mind - I missed him. Must be a contender for no. 7 all-rounder. In fact he & Imad should fight for one spot - on drier surface Imad plays, on gloomy typical English day Talat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Yes, out of sight, out of mind - I missed him. Must be a contender for no. 7 all-rounder. In fact he & Imad should fight for one spot - on drier surface Imad plays, on gloomy typical English day Talat.
    All four should be in the squad imo. It would make great competition and give a variety of options.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    All four should be in the squad imo. It would make great competition and give a variety of options.
    Then Mian/MoHa gone👍 You can't take only 3 pacers to a WC of 7 weeks & possible 11 matches.

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    Malik and hafeez need to be removed from odi side in next two years. Haris sohail needs to be integrated into side again and also one other new batsmen should be slotted into middle order aswell. Hafeez/malik overall will be liabilities in english conditions for world cup and also pakistan need to think longterm on building the batting line up going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    We need to give Talat, Fahim, Yamin long runs to establish themselves before 2019. Stop wasting time with TTFs FGS. Why in the world is Nawaz still around?

    Also imperative we get Sahibzada in and rid of Shehzad immediately. Difficult task this but hoping for the best.
    I would love to see them being given a chance but it seems unlikely atm.

    Talat wasn't given a central contract, and by the sounds of it they are going to wait and see how Sahibzada does for another season. This makes it unlikely either of them will even make the squad for upcoming series. I hope I am wrong about this.

    At least Fahim and Yamin have overcome that obstacle. But now they have the problem of actually being picked in the playing XI!

    Are you happy with the bowling options for WC19?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Then Mian/MoHa gone�� You can't take only 3 pacers to a WC of 7 weeks & possible 11 matches.
    Hafeez for sure. Thing is Talat and Yamin can play as genuine batsmen if given long enough runs so we don't need extra batsmen on the bench.

    Squad for example:

    Sahibzada
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris/Malik
    Talat
    Yamin/Imad
    Sarfaraz
    Shadab/Fahim
    Amir
    Hasan
    Bashir

    Haris/Malik
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    Yamin/Imad
    Irfan or Ehtisham


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    Too early too call but:

    1. Fakhar Zaman
    2. Sahibzada Farhan
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Haris Sohail
    5. Shoaib Malik
    6. Hussain Talat
    7. Aamer Yamin
    8. Fahim Ashraf
    9. Imad Wasim
    10. Shadab Khan
    11. Mohammad Amir
    12. Hasan Ali
    13. Shaheen Shah Afridi
    14. Raees / Junaid / Shinwari / Abbas / Mudassar / any other upcoming pacer
    15. Azhar (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    I would love to see them being given a chance but it seems unlikely atm.

    Talat wasn't given a central contract, and by the sounds of it they are going to wait and see how Sahibzada does for another season. This makes it unlikely either of them will even make the squad for upcoming series. I hope I am wrong about this.

    At least Fahim and Yamin have overcome that obstacle. But now they have the problem of actually being picked in the playing XI!

    Are you happy with the bowling options for WC19?
    Not just for WC19 but I'd like to see Irfan, Bashir, Ehtisham, Ghulam in the mix in one of the teams at least. Ghulam is not ready yet so it's fine to delay his introduction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Hafeez for sure. Thing is Talat and Yamin can play as genuine batsmen if given long enough runs so we don't need extra batsmen on the bench.

    Squad for example:

    Sahibzada
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris/Malik
    Talat
    Yamin/Imad
    Sarfaraz
    Shadab/Fahim
    Amir
    Hasan
    Bashir

    Haris/Malik
    Fahim/Shadab
    Yamin/Imad
    Irfan or Ehtisham
    Is that Bashir guy good? Also, looks like you have discarded SK for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Is that Bashir guy good? Also, looks like you have discarded SK for good.
    Yes, he's a Harris type bowler. Hits length all day at good pace, gets good lift as well. I have him starting because he has domestic performance behind him.

    Time to move on. The odds are against him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Yes, he's a Harris type bowler. Hits length all day at good pace, gets good lift as well. I have him starting because he has domestic performance behind him.

    Time to move on. The odds are against him.
    Has to better than JK, but I think that's not a stiff benchmark. Height & real age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Has to better than JK, but I think that's not a stiff benchmark. Height & real age?
    He's 6'0-6'1, an athlete like Hasan. Listed as 21. He's played U-19 so make of it what you will.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    He's 6'0-6'1, an athlete like Hasan. Listed as 21. He's played U-19 so make of it what you will.
    Indeed great prospect then, though I would have like couple more inches with that 6'1"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Indeed great prospect then, though I would have like couple more inches with that 6'1"
    Numbers are really impressive, particularly SR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Hafeez for sure. Thing is Talat and Yamin can play as genuine batsmen if given long enough runs so we don't need extra batsmen on the bench.

    Squad for example:

    Sahibzada
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris/Malik
    Talat
    Yamin/Imad
    Sarfaraz
    Shadab/Fahim
    Amir
    Hasan
    Bashir

    Haris/Malik
    Fahim/Shadab
    Yamin/Imad
    Irfan or Ehtisham
    Thought you didn't rate Fakhar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiraeth View Post
    Thought you didn't rate Fakhar...
    I would take Sharjeel over him but he's banned.


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