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    Alleged mention of names in fixing case put Mohammad Sami and Umar Akmal in a fix [Update Post #41]




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    Uh oh.

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    hopefully not anyone from CT winning squad.

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    One of them is a bowler, the other a batsman,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakSarZameen View Post
    One of them is a bowler, the other a batsman,
    You know who they are? Are any of them in the team now?

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    The two accused players were not part of CT squad.

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    Refrain from mentioning names until they're confirmed please.

    TV reports say the players are one each from IU and LQ, for what it's worth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Refrain from mentioning names until they're confirmed please.

    TV reports say the players are one each from IU and LQ, for what it's worth.
    I'm sorry for being dim but, who and what?


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    I read somewhere that one of them is a Karachiite while the other is Lahori.

    Who are the Karachiites and Lahoris in IU and LQ?


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    Don't know how to react.

    Still waiting for the verdict on the previously accused due to be released "soon".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I'm sorry for being dim but, who and what?
    Click on Saj's tweet and read the replies ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I'm sorry for being dim but, who and what?
    IU - Islamabad United

    LQ - Lahore Qalandars

    If that's the question...


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    The Indians replying to Saj using slurs such as Porki, man that entire pathetic nation is obsessed with us to no end, on every social platform.

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    Both were really talented when they came onto the scene. With potential to be legends...


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    Hope its not anyone important(for our future plans)

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    Player you guess seem to want to link to this is worth over $6million. Seems like some people are hoping it is the person I'm question shows the bias and agenda against the certain player. Saddening

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    How do these leaks take place? PCB shouldn't only allow such accusations to be released once their is sufficient evidence and the players have been formally accused.

    Way to ruin a good brand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    IU - Islamabad United

    LQ - Lahore Qalandars

    If that's the question...
    Ah, Okay. Thought it was the players initials. Didn't read properly


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    When will we learn? Another scandal, and another headache. Obviously the actions of a few individuals don't make up the whole team but it tarnishes our integrity, even if this is just reports.

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    Still haven't got the bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Both were really talented when they came onto the scene. With potential to be legends...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Hope its not anyone important(for our future plans)
    If I I think who it is - they the answer to your question is NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klopp2005 View Post
    Still haven't got the bowler
    Click on Saj's tweet and then read the replies on twitter ;)

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    So PCB will be in action now?

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    If this is indeed the 2 players that it is rumoured to be, then it's frankly no loss at all to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    If this is indeed the 2 players that it is rumoured to be, then it's frankly no loss at all to Pakistan.
    It's not about the loss though, is it? It's about how these idiots don't learn from mistakes by their fellow teammates.

    Utterly unconscionable and massively idiotic, to say the least.

    Saying all that, If those are the names someone mentioned on twitter


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    if those are the names i saw on twitter ..... good riddance

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    If the two names that are rumoured are true then good riddance. This is a gain for Pakistan cricket not a loss.

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    Just done a bit of research on to who those "two" players were on twitter. I'm not surprised that one of them actually did do it (if proven true) whereas the other one we don't even need anymore. Just hope nothing worse happens, not a nice thing to hear you know.

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    The PCB will likely send a notice to the two players in coming days...


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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    The PCB will likely send a notice to the two players in coming days...
    Just read in one of the newspaper that sources in the PCB said that they dont wanna pursue it as they are already involved in previous investigations. And they might have informed the decision it to the NCA UK as well. So these two might get away with this.

    To me it makes sense as they were never gonna get any proafs.

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    Don't forget this has come from someone posting a tweet claiming to know who the players involved are.

    So I suggest until it's been confirmed we should take that tweet[s] with a grain...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Don't forget this has come from someone posting a tweet claiming to know who the players involved are.

    So I suggest until it's been confirmed we should take that tweet[s] with a grain...
    Agreed. Hopefully it's a false report.

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    This shows.. how important it is to ban all corrupt peoples involved in any form and any capacity.

    Now whats done is done. But atleast the case of fresh defaulters must be dealt with no flexibility.

    Though I am big fan of asof as a cricketer but we must protect the game we love.

    Writing with heavy heart.

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    Know who they are

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    I personally (with all due respect) do not like these 'Suggested' sort of news/tweets...either name both or don't say anything till the names have come out in a proper report from authorities. This gets the 'Guessing' competition going which is not good for anyone!

    BTW< LOL at the Indian Chuhaay fans (@Twitter) coming out of their holes roughly a month after the Biggest Phainta in Moder History...in an ICC tournament Final especially when the losers were ranked favorites/number 1 while the eventual Winners were considered lucky to be there to begin with!


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    Looks like the media is picking it up now, and naming names.

    Oh and yes, it's the names being mentioned.


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    If these are true, I do have to question there seems a general theme to players targeted. It seems like a trend it's players who have tasted international success and then fallen out of favour/losing form etc. Khalid, Jamshed, Kaneria all fit the bill. Even with the trio Butt was dropped for long periods of time for bad form, and Asif found himself out due to drugs etc. Irfan was approached by bookies. It seems like bookies are targeting these sort of players specifically, maybe persuading them they can earn lots of money via fixing if they aren't going to be regulars of the international side anymore.

    Kind of feel there's still someone roaming around on the inside like Mazhar Majeed trying to make connections. Need to find out who this guy is/people involved. I find it weird how players are suddenly just invited to dinner with bookies, there must be someone putting in the connections there.

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    oh no...

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    The undisguised glee of some posters makes it clear who one of the players allegedly is.........

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    Would like to know if these players are actually involved or not.

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    Alleged mention of names in fixing case put Sami, Akmal in fix

    KARACHI: Pakistani players, Muhammad Sami and Umar Akmal are in a fix after their names were reported in the media in the ongoing spot-fixing hearings of the Pakistan Super League.

    A top official of the National Crime Agency of the United Kingdom gave a testimony to the three-member anti-corruption tribunal in the spot-fixing case via a video link last week after which it was reported in the media that he had also mentioned the names of Sami and Umar among players whose names are cropping up in the case.

    PCB Chairman, Shaharyar Khan, who is presently in London, also took the names of Sami and Umar during a talk with a Pakistani newspaper.

    But PCB legal advisor, Salman Naseer refused to comment on whether the two players were under investigation or their names were mentioned during the testimony by the NCA official via video link.

    "I would advise the media and everyone else to refrain from taking names of any players without official confirmation as it causes problems and so far I don't recall anyone in the tribunal and board taking the names of these two players anywhere," he said.

    When asked to confirm if it was correct the NCA official had taken the names of Sami and Umar during his testimony, Salman said no comments.

    For the two Pakistan players, however, the incident has already caused problems.

    The fast bowler, Sami who is in demand in most foreign T20 leagues, for example, has been asked by the organizers of the Caribbean Premier League whether there is any investigation going on against him.

    Similarly, the same question has been posed to Umar who is in London undergoing treatment for a knee problem.

    Both players have been posed the questions after they were given clearance by the PCB to play in the CPL.

    "From what I know Sami is upset because the organizers of the Bangladesh Premier League where he is in great demand and plays every year have also raised questions," a reliable source said.

    So far the PCB has made no official comment but the two players are apparently trying to convince the board to clear things up publicly.

    The PSL spot-fixing hearings have gone on since April and on Monday the legal advisor of the board, Tafazzul Rizvi confirmed that the arguments and testimonies in the Sharjeel Khan case had been completed and both parties would now give written submissions by July 29th after which the tribunal would announce a verdict in a month's time.

    According to Rizvi, the board was confident of getting a verdict from the tribunal against Sharjeel who is charged with meeting with bookmakers and agreeing to play two dot balls with them during the first match of the PSL.

    Soon after the first match, Sharjeel and Khalid Latif were suspended and sent back home from Dubai by the PCB.

    The PCB lawyer said the board had submitted strong evidence against Sharjeel and he had also admitted to most of the charges and the PCB would try to convince the tribunal to give him the most severe punishment available in the anti- corruption code.

    However, lawyer for suspended Pakistan test opener, Nasir Jamshed, who is also under scrutiny in the PSL hearings, lashed out at the PCB in Lahore insisting that the evidence being shown against his client were a joke.

    "Even in a banana republic you don't depend on such evidence to prosecute someone," Hasan Warriach told the media.

    He said the PCB was trying to save its officials and once the tribunal make its decision then his client would have the option of appealing in a superior court.

    "We know what the outcome is going to be but I challenge the PCB to share their evidence with the media. They don't even have statements by the alleged bookmakers, Yousuf and Mark," he said.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/59652378.cms
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    PCB Chairman, Shaharyar Khan, who is presently in London, also took the names of Sami and Umar during a talk with a Pakistani newspaper.
    Why What is wrong with everyone?

    Ridiculous lack of professionalism to put these names out like this and spread rumours. If there is evidence against them, use it. Or zip it!


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    YES! Hopefully both are found guilty and we can get rid of Umar Akmal for good. Feel somewhat bad for Sami but happy to move on from him as well!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Why What is wrong with everyone?

    Ridiculous lack of professionalism to put these names out like this and spread rumours. If there is evidence against them, use it. Or zip it!
    This situation could, and should, have been dealt with better. I wonder what the original source of the leak was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adil_909 View Post
    YES! Hopefully both are found guilty and we can get rid of Umar Akmal for good. Feel somewhat bad for Sami but happy to move on from him as well!
    If it is true, why on earth would you feel sorry for Sami?

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    Lol Umar Akmal made a mockery out of his career, he could've been a world-class player given his talent if he worked hard but he chose not to. I've definitely given up on him since his fitness levels are abysmal and keeps on landing himself in many controversies.

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    Frist of all PCB should sack SM khan bahut pait ka halka banda hai bhi yeh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    Lol Umar Akmal made a mockery out of his career, he could've been a world-class player given his talent if he worked hard but he chose not to. I've definitely given up on him since his fitness levels are abysmal and keeps on landing himself in many controversies.
    The sad thing looking at his twitter after hearing about this rumour he looks fitter and has lost weight. Still not back to 2011 fitness, but markedly fitter than before.

    Really hope these rumours aren't true. Even watching him on his comeback, it was clear the talent was still there. A bit better focus on fitness, batting coach working to tighten up and fix some of the bad habits he'd fallen into and he's was workable. With the lack of middle order hard hitting talent, him back in form would have been much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adil_909 View Post
    YES! Hopefully both are found guilty and we can get rid of Umar Akmal for good. Feel somewhat bad for Sami but happy to move on from him as well!
    No man. You have to look at the bigger picture. It is ridiculous how much our cricketers are rumoured to get involved into fixing. Especially compared to other countries.

    All the hard work that Misbah and his men did after 2010 is being undone.

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    Whoever is saying "hopefully they are found guilty" is beyond disgraceful.

    Both these lads represent Pakistan and if you want them getting caught, you need to get your brain checked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Whoever is saying "hopefully they are found guilty" is beyond disgraceful.

    Both these lads represent Pakistan and if you want them getting caught, you need to get your brain checked.
    whats happened has happened.
    But hopefully the truth will come out

    If they are guilty, then lets hope they are proven guilty.


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    I hope each and every player involved in fixing is exposed.

    Since the case of the previously accused has become a circus I am not all too confident in them competency of those in charge.

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    I know everybody like me thinks that UA is an idiot but what happens if this story is not true. Same with Sami, if this turns out to be false then his ability to earn a living has been diminished. We need solid proofs not hear say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    whats happened has happened.
    But hopefully the truth will come out

    If they are guilty, then lets hope they are proven guilty.
    IF they are guilty, then yes.

    But to hope that they ARE indeed guilty is different.


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    Lol at people paying Sami to bowl badly, what a waste of money

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    No sympathy for either player, but this is starting to look rather awful for Pakistani cricket.

    Clearly they are not doing the work to reign in fixers. Australia has problems because their players want to go play IPL. Pakistan has problems because their players would rather fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Lol at people paying Sami to bowl badly, what a waste of money
    It is a bit ironic, he is up there as one of the most gormless bowlers of this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    No man. You have to look at the bigger picture. It is ridiculous how much our cricketers are rumoured to get involved into fixing. Especially compared to other countries.

    All the hard work that Misbah and his men did after 2010 is being undone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Whoever is saying "hopefully they are found guilty" is beyond disgraceful.

    Both these lads represent Pakistan and if you want them getting caught, you need to get your brain checked.
    Exactly. It's rather worrying that some posters hold such personal hate against certain players (who they have probably never met before) to the point they would be happy to bring down the reputation of PCT (and indeed Pakistan) so long as it brought about the downfall of that player(s).

    Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Lol at people paying Sami to bowl badly, what a waste of money
    Lol yeah why would you? Its 99.99% confirmed anyway, although would be impossible to prove unless hom bowling andly is really worse than usual which would probably mean him bowling underarm or something

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    Genuine question - How would anyone prove whether Sami under performed ?? I mean I can understand about Umar but Sami.....Really ???

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    Now there are 3 Karachi boys (Khalid Latif, Shahzaib Khan and Mohammad Sami) who are allegedly involved in fixing. I think before these 3, there was no cricketer from Karachi who was accused of being involved in fixing. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Now there are 3 Karachi boys (Khalid Latif, Shahzaib Khan and Mohammad Sami) who are allegedly involved in fixing. I think before these 3, there was no cricketer from Karachi who was accused of being involved in fixing. Am I right?
    Yes. It is a shame man.

    For so many years there was no Khi boy who was a fixer

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    One is entirely believable. Not because he is inherently corrupt but because such stupid acts are his specialty.

    The other is a total shock. I used to know Sami quite well in 2002-2005 period and I cant believe this.

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    Instead of speculation there needs to be proper trial. PCB needs to pull things together.

    If someone is guilty then find the evidence and ban him. Those who are not guilty they will be relieved of the burden.

    Right now all this speculation is hurting Pakistan's reputation.

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    Sarjeel was caught in first 3 days of psl. If these guys had done it after seeing whatever happened to Sarjeel, these are some of the dumbest cricketers ever. At least for sarjeel and co, they had some excuse that there was no spot fixing between 2010 and 2017.

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    Wasim Akram is kind of a good person, and that's sarcasm.


    If life on earth is temporary...what make you think that your problems are permanent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehub View Post
    Sarjeel was caught in first 3 days of psl. If these guys had done it after seeing whatever happened to Sarjeel, these are some of the dumbest cricketers ever. At least for sarjeel and co, they had some excuse that there was no spot fixing between 2010 and 2017.
    This is too much for even Akmal.

    Don't think he can go this dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    One is entirely believable. Not because he is inherently corrupt but because such stupid acts are his specialty.

    The other is a total shock. I used to know Sami quite well in 2002-2005 period and I cant believe this.
    Should've stuck to Football.......something he's actually good at playing for a change......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    This is too much for even Akmal.

    Don't think he can go this dumb
    Bro....we've had players who've literally tried to eat a cricket ball in front of a 25k strong audience with 22 cameras.....

    PCT Rule #1 - This madness known as Pakistan Cricket is a bottomless pit, you never say never......Over the last two decades I've tried to rationalize things on how stuff works in here but clearly even Steven Hawking and Eisenstein wouldn't be able to make sense of our lot......

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    Assuming that this is true, for those ppl incredulous about the stupidity of these cricketers, respectfully, they are barking up the wrong tree.
    This is about what Pakistan's cricketing authorities do for those players who are involved in spot fixing or match fixing. If you keep letting them go, more players will do the same.
    If the evidence is circumstantial, no matter. Just stop selecting the players. Pavlovian conditioning works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Now there are 3 Karachi boys (Khalid Latif, Shahzaib Khan and Mohammad Sami) who are allegedly involved in fixing. I think before these 3, there was no cricketer from Karachi who was accused of being involved in fixing. Am I right?
    Basit Ali admitted. Innuendo around asif Iqbal

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Genuine question - How would anyone prove whether Sami under performed ?? I mean I can understand about Umar but Sami.....Really ???
    They paid him to bowl well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    They paid him to bowl well.
    Reverse-Fix ?? Is that even a thing ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Reverse-Fix ?? Is that even a thing ???
    you can fix anything as long as you are asking the player to do what he is incapable of doing well consistently.
    In Sami's case, most ppl would bet against him bowling well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    you can fix anything as long as you are asking the player to do what he is incapable of doing well consistently.
    In Sami's case, most ppl would bet against him bowling well.
    Does that make any sense?

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    The NCA official may have mentioned those two names during his testimony, but what's not clear is whether he's accused them of any wrongdoing.

    PCB should release the transcript or clarify the situation. I'm no fan of either player but its not right that names are leaked to the press like this causing speculation.

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