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    England [362 & 243] beat South Africa [226 & 202] by 177 runs, win Test series 3-1

    England : Joe Root (C) , Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow (w) , Gary Ballance, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Liam Dawson, Steven Finn, Keaton Jennings, Toby Roland-Jones, Ben Stokes

    South Africa : Faf du Plessis (C), Hashim Amla, Temba Bavuma, Theunis de Bruyn, Quinton de Kock (w), Dean Elgar, Heino Kuhn, Keshav Maharaj, Aiden Markram, Morne Morkel, Chris Morris, Duanne Olivier, Andile Phehlukwayo, Vernon Philander, Kagiso Rabada

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    Looks a hard, flat pitch but recent downpours in Manchester may mean there is less pace in this Old Trafford wicket than we're used to seeing.

    Credit to the groundsman for getting the pitch and outfield ready. They had the heat lamps out and have had to deal with several concerts being staged at the ground.

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    We're going to open a Moeen Ali end at Worcestershire and Wawrwickshire, we have already made it compulsory that every third born in a family must be named after Moeen in Brum @Markhor .

    Adil Rashid on the other hand shall receive the honour of his very own stall at Headingley to sell the best pies in England

    Jimmy being immortalised this morning


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    So England win the toss and elect to bat first, probably the correct decision. Not much in the wicket and they will look to unleash the Beard as the Test progresses. Can't believe England have not beaten SA in a Test series for two decades bah gawd! I hope we can say that as Pakistan fans 13 years from now


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Faf du Lieutenant Zippy confirms that de Bruyn and Olivier comes into the South Africa XI. Both Philander and Morris are injured. Huge blow for SA especially Big Vern


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Loving this special by athers, hussain and pollock on the short ball. That spell by Flintoff to Kallis was incredible, Andrew's peaks were as good as Botham and Willis if not better, what a bowler. The helmet may have changed technique's with regards to playing the short ball and while I agree with athers that batsman tend to be the aggressors in the modern era the short ball is still a very attacking delivery from a bowlers perspective.

    All athers, hussain and pollock rate Akhtar as the quickest bowler they faced


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Faf du Lieutenant Zippy confirms that de Bruyn and Olivier comes into the South Africa XI. Both Philander and Morris are injured. Huge blow for SA especially Big Vern
    Sigh, this is not going to end well.

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    Jennings would've been gone had there been a short leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    So England win the toss and elect to bat first, probably the correct decision. Not much in the wicket and they will look to unleash the Beard as the Test progresses. Can't believe England have not beaten SA in a Test series for two decades bah gawd! I hope we can say that as Pakistan fans 13 years from now
    We beat them away in 2016 and 2005. It's just the home series where they have been our bogey team.

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    Morkel has troubled Cook a few times in this series. Getting Cook to play and miss with a few rapping him on his pads.

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    Rabada not making the batsmen play, these deliveries are too easy to leave.

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    Jennings isn't good enough for Test yet, I'll be surprised if he makes the Ashes squad. However, there is the WI series for him to mend his stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Jennings isn't good enough for Test yet, I'll be surprised if he makes the Ashes squad. However, there is the WI series for him to mend his stats.
    I doubt he can survive a full strength Windies attack.


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    Need to get Root asap.

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    Why are England picking these players who can't even average 40 in FC cricket? Jennings, Westley, Malan all have ordinary FC stats. What's the idea here?

    Why doesn't Ben Duckett get another go or someone like Nick Browne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dios View Post
    Why are England picking these players who can't even average 40 in FC cricket? Jennings, Westley, Malan all have ordinary FC stats. What's the idea here?

    Why doesn't Ben Duckett get another go or someone like Nick Browne?
    Westley got picked because he's been going pretty well in county cricket lately and had 3 hundreds in 3 games against international attacks in the last few years showing his technique has had a good working over. To be fair on him he's looked pretty solid and one of the most reassuring England batting debutants of the last few years. With Malan I think they wanted a right hander in the middle order to break it up.

    Duckett had his very visible issue against off spinners in the winter and although South Africa don't have one, both West Indies and Australia will have someone who can bowl to that weakness after this series and the selectors presumably don't think he's got past that issue yet.

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    When was the last time Root failed to score at least a 50 in a test match

    It's funny to see still many people trying hard to prove he's overrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protea Fan View Post
    When was the last time Root failed to score at least a 50 in a test match

    It's funny to see still many people trying hard to prove he's overrated
    True, problem comes in getting those 100s. I believe Root is mainly criticized for his conversion rate.

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    The never-ending English batting lineup...

    Damn effective though.

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    Malan has no business in Test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Malan has no business in Test cricket.
    He should open according to @Ahson8.


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    "Morkel has been better than his figures suggest"

    I wonder how many times that has been said about Morkel. It's essentially his cricket life story.

    A lethal weapon in the Steyn, Philander, Morkel days.

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    New ball taken, Morkel induces the edge but no third slip with Stokes on 44.

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    Rabada's test series in England is quite underwhelming.

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    Stokes grinding out the tough runs again.

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    Match slipping away here with some weird decisions by Faf.

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    What's up with the beds?

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    Rabada

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    Malan looked like a hack every time I saw him bat in the PSL. I can't imagine what England were thinking to pick such a player for Tests.


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    Rabada has bowled some real peaches in this series. Outrageous young talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad10 View Post
    Rabada has bowled some real peaches in this series. Outrageous young talent.
    I honestly expected more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandiasza View Post
    I honestly expected more.
    Hm, I think it's a tad unfair since this is his first outing in England for tests. Obviously not the finished article but he's been decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandiasza View Post
    I honestly expected more.
    Maybe he's not ready to carry the attack yet. There shouldn't be too much pressure placed on him, and his fellow bowlers must make sure they do their part for the success of the bowling attack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad10 View Post
    Rabada has bowled some real peaches in this series. Outrageous young talent.
    He hasn't quite got his line right this tour, hasn't made the batsmen play enough. Some of his deliveries has been too easy to leave.

    But given its his first series in England bowling with the Dukes we can give him some leeway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    He hasn't quite got his line right this tour, hasn't made the batsmen play enough. Some of his deliveries has been too easy to leave.

    But given its his first series in England bowling with the Dukes we can give him some leeway.
    It should be a good learning experience for him. He's still developing as a bowler and has all the tools to become an ATG.


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    Even day probably, because SAF has the new ball and fresh bowlers tomorrow morning. If they can get Poms out below 300, they should back themselves this time to put a lead after 1st innings.

    I think, Poms will be the unhappier team tonight because of their top 6 dismissals reading 46, 17, 29, 52, 18, 58 - these are wasted starts, scores that suggests wicket & batting condition is quite good, but batsmen failed to capitalize on starts. Oval was a bit different, because that 353 was built on 2 outstanding innings of 88 & 112, but not the case here. I believe SAF will bat much better here this time, but they need to put Kok at 5, if not 6. He can do similar impact with tail, like Gilchrist against tired attack but he is too aggressive to bat at 4.

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    I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

    In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haz95 View Post
    I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

    In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.
    the reason why he is rated so highly is not because of the volume of runs but because he is a wonderful pressure player. always shows up when the team is under pressure and rescues them.

    if anything he is underrated. doesn't score any "soft runs" (pakpassion favorite word)...

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    England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

    Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

    SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

    Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

    SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.
    I agree with all points. It all really depends if SA can bowl England out for under 300. Tomorrow's day will be interesting since SA have to put up a score to make a test outta this.

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    Lol, Rabada gets Stokes again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

    Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

    SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.
    What's the name of the ginger behind the wicket? He's pretty damn good.


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    Masterclass of shepherding a tailender from Bairstow so far.

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    What an innings by Johhny.. Taking singles on the last ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haz95 View Post
    I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

    In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.
    Hardly. Time and again Bairstow has scored innings in pressure situations. He and Moeen Ali batted us out of the game at Edgbaston last year and was England's best batsman when we beat them at The Oval.

    He's one of the better players of spin in this England team too as evident by his performances in Asia last year when his team was collapsing regularly.

    His problem is conversion - 16 fifties but only 3 hundreds. Maybe its a result of him batting down the order at 6 and 7 when he should be given a run at 5 as there's not a lot of quality middle-order batsmen in county cricket and the alternatives like Malan, Ballance, Vince have failed time and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post

    His problem is conversion - 16 fifties but only 3 hundreds. Maybe its a result of him batting down the order at 6 and 7 when he should be given a run at 5 as there's not a lot of quality middle-order batsmen in county cricket and the alternatives like Malan, Ballance, Vince have failed time and again.
    Think England should play him at 5. And make Buttler keeper who i think is good enough at no 7 as a keeper batsman. Johhny then can score big runs. He is a potential 47-48 avg batsman which is good considering he plays most of his matches in England .


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Bairstow given lbw on 99

    reviewed


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    What's impact "umpires call"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by On_the_up View Post
    What's impact "umpires call"?
    If any part of the ball is in line, which it looked like a fraction of a millimetre was there unfortunately.

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    I think this is a par score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    If any part of the ball is in line, which it looked like a fraction of a millimetre was there unfortunately.
    o.k thanks for that.


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    Been ages since Broad bowled his magic spells.

    Must be due one soon.

    Lovely clip off the legs by "beer"


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    SA have two batters who concern me - one is out for a duck.

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    Questions for SA:

    What no will QDK come in?

    Will Faf be able to leave "the leave"


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    Quote Originally Posted by On_the_up View Post
    Questions for SA:

    What no will QDK come in?

    Will Faf be able to leave "the leave"
    He should ideally be batting at number 5 or 6

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    Amla is becoming the bunny of TRJ, 3 dismissals out of 3

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    Amla gone ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Amla is becoming the bunny of TRJ, 3 dismissals out of 3
    Amla is on decline , I doubt he will get to 9000 Test runs

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    TRL does it again, gets big fish Amla.

    Bavuma in at 4.

    Is Faf pakistani?


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    Bavuma starts with a boundary

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    Faf hiding down the order.

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    SA need a really big partnership here

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    I honestly don't see us winning this one. It would require a minor miracle.

    Pity, it would have been a great story.

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    SA will need couple of big innings here to come back in this game.

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    Partnership developing but still long way to go.

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    SA will be hoping De Kock clicks today facing an older ball. It might be their only hope of winning this match.


    Frank Skinner: Pakistan looked better than this when they were trying to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    Faf hiding down the order.
    Bavuma is one of their better batsmen against lateral movement. Has a solid technique but has conversion issues. Makes good starts but often doesn't cash in and make the big hundreds.

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    Moeen on, can he make it 4 in 4?

    No


    Frank Skinner: Pakistan looked better than this when they were trying to lose.

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    Moeen Ali on now.

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    36 runs partnership so far

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    SA need to smack Moeen for some runs here.

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    Mooen strikes !!!

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    Ali Bomaye !


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Oh Bavuma why would you leave a delivery that straight ?

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    And another ! 2 wickets in 3 balls.

    Anderson dismisses Faf as well. He's had a poor series with the bat.

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    Could've been another wicket, tough chance for Jennings.

    And another near miss

    Ball went quick and Stokes couldn't cling on. de Kock shouldn't have been cutting that one.

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    Keep chipping away boys, make it 3-1.

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    Twenty wickets in the series for Beard for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Twenty wickets in the series for Beard for the first time.
    South Africa struggling versus him big time.

    Having brought Saqlain on as spin bowling coach, England are now reaping the rewards.

    SA 171/7.

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