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    North Korea nuclear threat: Mattis warns of 'massive military response' [Update post #22]

    US President Donald Trump says North Korea "will be met with fire and fury" if it threatens the US.

    His comments came after a Washington Post report, citing US intelligence officials, said Pyongyang had produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit inside its missiles.

    This would mean the North is developing nuclear weapons capable of striking the US at a much faster rate than expected.

    The UN recently approved further economic sanctions against the country.

    The Security Council unanimously agreed to ban North Korean exports and limit investments, prompting fury from North Korea and a vow to make the "US pay a price".

    The heated rhetoric between the two leaders intensified after Pyongyang tested two intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) in July, claiming it now had the ability to hit the US.

    Mr Trump told reporters on Tuesday: "North Korea best not make any more threats to the US. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen."

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    He shouldve said fire and blood. Wouldve been cooler


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    I want a big catastrophic event to happen. Like super-volcanoes or a nuclear war.

    World seems too boring these days.

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    The man seems to have been smoking mushrooms, you should expect him to blow one or two out sooner or later.

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    No kidding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post



    No kidding.
    The Irony


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    Lol there is a Trump tweet contradicting himself for every occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I want a big catastrophic event to happen. Like super-volcanoes or a nuclear war.

    World seems too boring these days.
    Are you crazy? Highly irresponsible statement and stupid statement.

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    North Korea has not attacked anyone. America as always trying to be the world policeman by telling others what they can not do. One rule for them and their allies and another for the rest.


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    Lol North Korea would get hit with something it doesn't know about/wouldn't know about. Interesting days ahead.

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    ‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says

    Texas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump’s evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to “take out” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    “When it comes to how we should deal with evildoers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said. “In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.”

    Jeffress said in a phone interview that he was prompted to make the statement after Trump said that if North Korea’s threats to the United States continue, Pyongyang will be “met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”

    The biblical passage Romans 13 gives the government authority to deal with evildoers, Jeffress said. “That gives the government … the authority to do whatever, whether it’s assassination, capital punishment or evil punishment to quell the actions of evildoers like Kim Jong Un,” he said.

    He said that many pacifist Christians will cite Romans 12, which says, “Do not repay evil for evil,” but Jeffress says that the passage is referring to Christians, not to the government.

    “A Christian writer asked me, ‘Don’t you want the president to embody the Sermon on the Mount?’ ” he said, referring to Jesus’s sermon. “I said absolutely not.”

    In his sermon on the morning of Trump’s inauguration in January, Jeffress, senior pastor of First Baptist Dallas, compared Trump to the story of the biblical leader Nehemiah, who helped rebuild the city of Jerusalem.

    The first step of rebuilding the nation, Jeffress said, was the building of a wall around Jerusalem to protect its citizens. “You see, God is not against building walls,” Jeffress said in his sermon at St. John’s Episcopal Church in Washington.

    Jeffress is no stranger to controversy. He has said in the past that former president Barack Obama paved the way for the Antichrist and drew wide attention for calling Mormonism a cult during the 2012 Republican primaries. Jeffress knows his comments on North Korea could be considered controversial, even among fellow evangelicals. His megachurch in Dallas is a prominent Southern Baptist church, one where evangelist Billy Graham had membership for many years. In 2016, the church reported an average weekly attendance of about 3,700.

    “Some Christians, perhaps younger Christians, have to think this through,” Jeffress said. “It’s antithetical to some of the mushy rhetoric you hear from some circles today. Frankly, it’s because they are not well taught in the scriptures.”

    Over the past two years, Jeffress said, Trump has been “very measured, very thoughtful in every response.”

    “People instinctively know that this president is not going to draw an imaginary red line and walk around it like President Obama did,” he said.

    Attitudes about North Korea among evangelicals are unclear, he said.

    “I think many evangelicals, like most Americans, really don’t pay attention to global affairs,” Jeffress said. “I believe we’re all going to be forced to soon if North Korea isn’t dealt with decisively.”

    Jeffress is unusual for an evangelical pastor because most pastors do not speak about specific foreign policy issues from the pulpit, except sometimes about Israel, said Amy Black, a political-science professor at Wheaton College, an evangelical institution in Illinois.

    Theologians and church leaders have debated the interpretation of Romans 13 for millennia, Black said. Most mainstream interpretations of the passage, she said, would suggest that God works through governmental leaders, but ultimate authority comes from God. Debate broke out among Christians in Germany during World War II over how to interpret this passage; some Christians believed they should follow the government while others set up a resistance movement.

    “If anything, Romans 13 creates a conundrum, because it could be interpreted that Kim Jong Un has authority to govern,” she said.

    Jeffress last met with Trump in July when a group of pastors laid hands on the president in the Oval Office. He said now that health care is off the table, evangelicals are hoping for tax reform, though he didn’t have any specifics in mind.

    The access Jeffress has to the White House, Black said, may explain why many evangelicals have been so attracted to Trump.

    “Some of the approval of Trump is less about the specific person and even specific policy, but it’s about someone who is listening to us,” she said. “Jeffress is a piece of that story of having access.”

    Black says that Jeffress represents an “old guard” of evangelicals, closely aligned to leaders like popular radio personality and psychologist James Dobson and Pat Robertson, who founded the Christian Broadcasting Network. Many evangelicals now look to leadership from pastors like Rick Warren in California or Tim Keller in New York City, though Warren and Keller do not speak about politics very often.

    “We’re in a weird vacuum; we’re past the Jim Dobson and Pat Robertson era, but it’s not 100 percent clear who will fill their place,” Black said.

    Jeffress, who was an early supporter of Trump, has said that after sharing Wendy’s cheeseburgers in Iowa, he believed Trump would be the next president and that it would be because God placed him there. In July, his church choir and orchestra performed a song called “Make America Great Again” at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in D.C., where Trump was in attendance.

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    Seriously?


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    Glad things are calming down. The world did not need another war, especially between these 2. Would have been way more damaging.
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    https://www.dawn.com/news/1355567/no...confirms-japan

    Japan confirmed that North Korea conducted a nuclear test on Sunday, registering a formal protest with Pyongyang after a major explosion at the isolated nation's main test site.

    “The government confirms that North Korea conducted a nuclear test after examining information from the weather agency and other information,” Japanese foreign minister Taro Kono told reporters.

    He said the government registered a protest with the North Korean embassy in Beijing prior to the confirmation, calling any test “extremely unforgivable”.

    Earlier, South Korea's military had expressed suspicion that North Korea had conducted its sixth nuclear test, after it detected a "strong earthquake."

    The strong tremor was felt hours after Pyongyang claimed that its leader has inspected a hydrogen bomb meant for a new intercontinental ballistic missile.

    South Korea's weather agency and the Joint Chief of Staff said an artificial 5.6 magnitude quake occurred at 12:29 pm local time, in Kilju, northern Hamgyong Province.

    The US Geological Survey called the first quake an explosion with a magnitude 6.3.

    Shortly after, Yonhap news agency said a second quake was detected with a magnitude 4.6 but South Korea's weather agency denied another quake occurred.

    There was no word from the military in Seoul about the possible second quake.

    North Korea conducted its fifth test last year in September. In confirmed, the latest test would mark yet another big step forward in North Korean attempts to obtain a nuclear-armed missile capable of reaching deep into the US mainland.

    The US State Department had no immediate reaction. South Korea's presidential office said it will hold a National Security Council meeting chaired by President Moon Jae-in.

    North Korea conducted two nuclear tests last year and has since maintained a torrid pace in weapons tests, including flight-testing developmental intercontinental ballistic missiles and flying a powerful mid-range missile over Japan.

    Earlier Sunday, photos released by the North Korean government showed Kim talking with his lieutenants as he observed a silver, peanut-shaped device that was apparently the purported thermonuclear weapon destined for an ICBM.

    What appeared to be the nose cone of a missile could also be seen near the alleged bomb in one picture, which could not be independently verified and which was taken without outside journalists present. Another photo showed a diagram on the wall behind Kim of a bomb mounted inside a cone.

    Aside from the factuality of the North's claim, the language in its statement seems a strong signal that Pyongyang will soon conduct its sixth nuclear weapon test, which is crucial if North Korean scientists are to fulfil the national goal of an arsenal of viable nuclear ICBMs that can reach the US mainland.

    There's speculation that such a test could come on or around the Sept. 9 anniversary of North Korea's national founding, something it did last year.

    As part of the North's weapons work, Kim was said by his propaganda mavens to have made a visit to the Nuclear Weapons Institute and inspected a “homemade” H-bomb with “super explosive power” that “is adjustable from tens (of) kiloton to hundreds (of) kiloton.”

    North Korea in July conducted its first ever ICBM tests, part of a stunning jump in progress for the country's nuclear and missile program since Kim rose to power following his father's death in late 2011.

    The North followed its two tests of Hwasong-14 ICBMs, which, when perfected, could target large parts of the United States, by threatening to launch a salvo of its Hwasong-12 intermediate range missiles toward the US Pacific island territory of Guam in August.

    It flew a Hwasong-12 over northern Japan last week, the first such overflight by a missile capable of carrying nukes, in a launch Kim described as a “meaningful prelude” to containing Guam, the home of major US military facilities, and more ballistic missile tests targeting the Pacific.

    Vipin Narang, an MIT professor specialising in nuclear strategy, said it's important to note that North Korea was only showing a mock-up of a two-stage thermonuclear device, or H-bomb.

    “We won't know what they have until they test it, and even then there may be a great deal of uncertainty depending on the yield and seismic signature and any isotopes we can detect after a test,” he said.

    To back up its claims to nuclear mastery, such tests are vital. The first of its two atomic tests last year involved what Pyongyang claimed was a sophisticated hydrogen bomb; the second it said was its most powerful atomic detonation ever.

    It is almost impossible to independently confirm North Korean statements about its highly secret weapons program. South Korean government officials said the estimated explosive yield of last year's first test was much smaller than what even a failed hydrogen bomb detonation would produce.

    There was speculation that North Korea might have detonated a boosted fission bomb, a weapon considered halfway between an atomic bomb and an H-bomb.

    It is clear, however, that each new missile and nuclear test gives the North invaluable information that allows big jumps in capability.

    A key question is how far North Korea has gotten in efforts to consistently shrink down nuclear warheads so they can fit on long-range missiles.

    “Though we cannot verify the claim, (North Korea) wants us to believe that it can launch a thermonuclear strike now, if it is attacked. Importantly, (North Korea) will also want to test this warhead, probably at a larger yield, to demonstrate this capability,” said Adam Mount, a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress.

    North Korea is thought to have a growing arsenal of nuclear bombs and has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range missile to eventually carry smaller versions of those bombs.

    South Korea's main spy agency has previously asserted that it does not think Pyongyang currently has the ability to develop miniaturised nuclear weapons that can be mounted on long-range ballistic missiles. Some experts, however, think the North may have mastered this technology.

    The White House said that President Donald Trump spoke with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan regarding “ongoing efforts to maximise pressure on North Korea.”

    The statement did not say whether the conversation came before or after the North's latest claim.

    A long line of US presidents has failed to check North Korea's persistent pursuit of missiles and nuclear weapons. Six-nation negotiations on dismantling North Korea's nuclear program in exchange for aid fell apart in early 2009.

    The North said in its statement Sunday that its H-bomb “is a multi-functional thermonuclear nuke with great destructive power which can be detonated even at high altitudes for super-powerful EMP (electromagnetic pulse) attack according to strategic goals.”

    Kim, according to the statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency, claimed that “all components of the H-bomb were homemade ... thus enabling the country to produce powerful nuclear weapons as many as it wants.”

    In what could be read as a veiled warning of more nuclear tests, Kim underlined the need for scientists to “dynamically conduct the campaign for successfully concluding the final-stage research and development for perfecting the state nuclear force” and “set forth tasks to be fulfilled in the research into nukes.”

    The two Koreas have shared the world's most heavily fortified border since their war in the early 1950s ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty.

    About 28,500 American troops are deployed in South Korea as deterrence against North Korea.


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    The more the Americans threaten North Korea, more and more tests are carried out. Kim holds all the cards here.


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    US is being bullied on every frontier now


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    North Korea nuclear threat: Mattis warns of 'massive military response'

    Pentagon chief James Mattis says any threat to the US or its allies by North Korea will be met with a "massive military response".

    His comments came after a national security briefing with President Donald Trump about the secretive communist state's latest nuclear test.

    Pyongyang says it has successfully trialled a hydrogen bomb that could be loaded on to a long-range missile.

    The move has drawn international condemnation.

    North Korea has defied UN sanctions and international pressure by developing nuclear weapons and test missiles that could potentially reach the US.

    But speaking to reporters outside the White House, Defence Secretary Mattis said the US had the ability to defend itself and its allies South Korea and Japan, adding that its commitments were "ironclad".

    "Any threat to the United States or its territories - including Guam - or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming."

    The UN Security Council is to hold an emergency meeting on Monday to discuss an international response, according to the US mission.

    Meanwhile, President Trump has warned that America may stop trading with any country that does business with the North.

    What has happened?

    The first suggestion that this was to be a far from normal Sunday in the region came when seismologists' equipment started picking up readings of an earth tremor in the area where North Korea has conducted nuclear tests before.

    The US Geological Survey put the tremor at 6.3 magnitude.

    Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Kono said there was no doubt this was North Korea's sixth nuclear test, calling it "unforgivable".

    Then North Korean state media confirmed this was no earthquake.

    It claimed the country had conducted its sixth and most powerful nuclear test, detonating a hydrogen bomb that could be loaded onto a long-range missile.

    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was pictured with what state media said was a new type of hydrogen bomb.

    Hydrogen bombs are many times more powerful than an atomic bomb. They use fusion - the merging of atoms - to unleash huge amounts of energy, whereas atomic bombs use nuclear fission, or the splitting of atoms.

    Analysts say the North's claims should be treated with caution, but that its nuclear capability is clearly advancing.

    Officials in China, where the blast was felt as a tremor, said they were carrying out emergency radiation testing along the border with North Korea.

    What has the reaction been?

    Denouncing the test as "hostile" and "dangerous", President Trump described the North as a "rogue nation" which had become a "great threat and embarrassment" to China - Pyongyang's main ally.

    He also said South Korea's "talk of appeasement" was not working and that the secretive communist state "only understands one thing".

    "The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea," Mr Trump later said in a tweet. North Korea relies on China for about 90% of its foreign trade.

    South Korean President Moon Jae-in called for the "strongest possible" response, including new UN Security Council sanctions to "completely isolate" the country.

    China, meanwhile, also expressed "strong condemnation" and said the state "had ignored the international community's widespread opposition".

    Russia urged all sides involved to hold talks, saying this was the only way to resolve the Korean peninsula's problems.

    UK Prime Minister Theresa May said the "reckless" new test represented an "unacceptable further threat to the international community". She called on world leaders to come together to stop North Korea's "destabilising actions".

    What does the test tell us?

    South Korean officials said the latest test took place in Kilju County, where the North's Punggye-ri nuclear test site is situated. The "artificial quake" was 9.8 times more powerful than the tremor from the North's fifth test in September 2016, the state weather agency said.

    Although experts urged caution, this does appear to be the biggest and most successful nuclear test by North Korea to date - and the messaging is clear. North Korea wants to demonstrate it knows what makes a credible nuclear warhead.

    North Korea's nuclear tests

    Nuclear weapons expert Catherine Dill told the BBC it was not yet clear exactly what nuclear weapon design was tested.

    "But based on the seismic signature, the yield of this test definitely is an order of magnitude higher than the yields of the previous tests."

    Current information did not definitively indicate that a thermonuclear weapon had been tested "but it appears to be a likely possibility at this point", she said

    What can be done?

    By Jonathan Marcus, BBC defence and diplomatic correspondent

    North Korea's sixth nuclear test - probably its largest so far - sends out one clear political signal.

    Despite the bluster and threats from the Trump administration in Washington and near-universal condemnation from around the world, Pyongyang is not going to halt or constrain its nuclear activities.

    Worryingly, it also suggests that this is a programme that is progressing on all fronts at a faster rate than many had expected. So far all efforts to pressure North Korea - sanctions, isolation and military threats - have all failed to move Pyongyang.

    Could more be done? Certainly, but the harshest economic pressure would potentially cripple the regime and push it towards catastrophe - something China is unwilling to countenance.

    Containment and deterrence will now come to the fore as the world adjusts its policy from seeking to roll-back Pyongyang's weapons programme to living with a nuclear-armed North Korea.

    Will China clamp down?

    By Robin Brant, BBC News, Shanghai

    North Korea's sixth nuclear weapons test is an utter rejection of all that its only ally has called for.

    Beijing's response was predictable - condemnation, urging an end to provocation and dialogue. But it also spoke of urging North Korea to "face up to the firm will" of the international community to see denuclearisation on the Korean peninsula.

    There is no sign, though, that China is willing yet to see that "firm will" go beyond UN sanctions, which recently clamped down on seafood and iron ore exports, in addition to the coal and minerals that are already banned from crossing the border.

    It is noteworthy also that this test took place just as the Chinese president was about to welcome a handful of world leaders to the two-day showpiece Brics summit on China's east coast.

    Even the state-controlled media will find it hard to ignore the fact that their man has been upstaged - embarrassed too - by its almost universally ostracised ally and neighbour.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41140621


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    Options:

    * The U.S. does nothing
    > North Korea continues to develop and improve it's capabilities to launch long range range missiles, including eventually with nuclear warheads capable of reaching U.S. territory

    * The U.S. increases sanctions on North Korea and pressures China to do the same
    > the N. Korean economy goes further downhill
    > Kim Jong-un has a tantrum and does something stupid like firing off a missile at S. Korea, Japan, or U.S.
    > War!

    * The USA launches surgical strikes and/or launches full scale attack on North Korea
    > War!

    If war occurs, even if the USA manages to take out all N. Korean ballistic missiles and nukes before they can be launched, N. Korea's conventional artillery and rocket launchers will wreak havoc on parts of Seoul and other South Korean towns and cities close to the border before the US and S. Korean Air Force's could take them all out.
    Meaning tens of thousands dead in South Korea.

    Plus, it means USA/S. Korea invading N. Korea to take out Kim Jong-un's regime, aka Iraq and Saddam Hussain. Would China allow the USA/S. Korea to do that and have USA forces at it's land borders on a long term or permanent basis?

    Trump's got a problem on his hands. How will he cope and react?


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    Poor Indians were expecting a Pak-USA fight. That has bitten the dust now after South Korea and even Russia's recent actions. I don't think China will remain silent if North Korea was attacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Options:

    * The U.S. does nothing
    > North Korea continues to develop and improve it's capabilities to launch long range range missiles, including eventually with nuclear warheads capable of reaching U.S. territory

    * The U.S. increases sanctions on North Korea and pressures China to do the same
    > the N. Korean economy goes further downhill
    > Kim Jong-un has a tantrum and does something stupid like firing off a missile at S. Korea, Japan, or U.S.
    > War!

    * The USA launches surgical strikes and/or launches full scale attack on North Korea
    > War!

    If war occurs, even if the USA manages to take out all N. Korean ballistic missiles and nukes before they can be launched, N. Korea's conventional artillery and rocket launchers will wreak havoc on parts of Seoul and other South Korean towns and cities close to the border before the US and S. Korean Air Force's could take them all out.
    Meaning tens of thousands dead in South Korea.

    Plus, it means USA/S. Korea invading N. Korea to take out Kim Jong-un's regime, aka Iraq and Saddam Hussain. Would China allow the USA/S. Korea to do that and have USA forces at it's land borders on a long term or permanent basis?

    Trump's got a problem on his hands. How will he cope and react?
    Option 1.

    Although NK has been developing and testing icbm's and nuclear material for many years now, they arent stupid enough to attack first. Not sure what your view is but I personally dont believe they would do anything unless China is ok with it. China is already not happy with the US putting their military hardware near their borders, the last thing it would want is US troops in North Korea which also shares a border with Russia. China should broker a peace treaty between NK, SK and Japan without the yanks being involved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Poor Indians were expecting a Pak-USA fight. That has bitten the dust now after South Korea and even Russia's recent actions. I don't think China will remain silent if South Korea was attacked.
    Pakistan (since the development of nuclear bomb) are in untouchable club.

    Indian warmongers should be sentenced to 10 push ups. Thoda josh thanda ho jayega (This should calm their nerves)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Options:

    * The U.S. does nothing
    > North Korea continues to develop and improve it's capabilities to launch long range range missiles, including eventually with nuclear warheads capable of reaching U.S. territory

    * The U.S. increases sanctions on North Korea and pressures China to do the same
    > the N. Korean economy goes further downhill
    > Kim Jong-un has a tantrum and does something stupid like firing off a missile at S. Korea, Japan, or U.S.
    > War!

    * The USA launches surgical strikes and/or launches full scale attack on North Korea
    > War!

    If war occurs, even if the USA manages to take out all N. Korean ballistic missiles and nukes before they can be launched, N. Korea's conventional artillery and rocket launchers will wreak havoc on parts of Seoul and other South Korean towns and cities close to the border before the US and S. Korean Air Force's could take them all out.
    Meaning tens of thousands dead in South Korea.

    Plus, it means USA/S. Korea invading N. Korea to take out Kim Jong-un's regime, aka Iraq and Saddam Hussain. Would China allow the USA/S. Korea to do that and have USA forces at it's land borders on a long term or permanent basis?

    Trump's got a problem on his hands. How will he cope and react?
    Man it is disturbing when there's WWIII looming and you got psychos like Kim and Trump ruling

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    China is root of all problems in today's world.. Their lapdog North Korea is now misfiring under their instructions, I don't think the Chinese realize; America can turn entire North Korea to Ashes and China will have to sit and watch with the ability to do nothing...


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    Forget nuclear weapons, the conventional weapons that North Korea possesses would cause massive casualties in Seoul, South Korea alone in any military confrontation.

    The sanctions are not being properly implemented, North Korea still manages to do business in places like Malaysia in order to fund its regime.

    The Agreed Framework in the 90s was a big opportunity missed to settle this issue once and for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post
    China is root of all problems in today's world.. Their lapdog North Korea is now misfiring under their instructions, I don't think the Chinese realize; America can turn entire North Korea to Ashes and China will have to sit and watch with the ability to do nothing...
    Not for the first time!

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    Indians appear to have a massive problem with the Chinese. I'm sensing that there's an element of racism and superiority complex involved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Forget nuclear weapons, the conventional weapons that North Korea possesses would cause massive casualties in Seoul, South Korea alone in any military confrontation.

    The sanctions are not being properly implemented, North Korea still manages to do business in places like Malaysia in order to fund its regime.

    The Agreed Framework in the 90s was a big opportunity missed to settle this issue once and for all.
    Instead of sanctions which aren't working and never will why doesn't the 'International community' bring in North Korea into the real world by offering them trade for peace?

    If Nato can go around destroying countries, surely North Korea have the right to develop it's weapons for self defence?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Indians appear to have a massive problem with the Chinese. I'm sensing that there's an element of racism and superiority complex involved.
    You've obviously been living under a rock, conveniently deflecting but not surprising at all.
    Still far from the top

    With respect to the research and development of both military and commercial rocket launch services, India lags behind China, the US and Russia, said experts.
    www.globaltimes.cn/content/1033799.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Indians appear to have a massive problem with the Chinese. I'm sensing that there's an element of racism and superiority complex involved.
    You can add defeat in earlier wars and Chinese never backing down as they didn't recently when Indian troops withdrew from the territory they infiltrated.


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    Lil Kim has Chinese blessings. He will push the limits knowing that nobody wants nuclear war. So he will continue to troll and fire (misfire) missiles like its Diwali on to Japan and South Korea.

    China creating dangerous proxies to troll its rivals is nothing new.

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    Get ready for another warning from the usa,un,eu,etc.

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