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    National T20 Cup 2017 squads and schedule announced

    LAHORE- August 10, 2017: The Player Selection Ceremony for the National T-20 Cup 2017 was held at a local hotel today. The eight participating teams Karachi Whites, Lahore Whites, Lahore Blues, Islamabad, FATA, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, and Faisalabad selected their teams from a list of over 150 players from all over the country.

    All participating teams were picked by their respective regional head, selector, captain and coach. Haroon Rasheed, Director Cricket Operations, PCB while addressing the ceremony expressed his pleasure at the organization of the tournament and hoped that the event will provide a platform for youngsters to showcase their talent.

    The eight-team tournament will commence from August 25, 2017 in two phases, where the first round matches would be played in Multan till August 31, 2017. The second and final stage of the tournament would start on September 4, 2017 in Faisalabad and conclude on September 10, 2017.

    A total number of 31 matches including the final will be played, where each team will play seven matches. The top four teams among the eight teams will compete in the semi-final on September 9, 2017 at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad, whereas the final will take place at the same venue on September 10, 2017.


    FAISALABAD

    Pre-allocated Premium batsmen Premium bowlers Free picks Emerging
    Misbah-ul-Haq © Sohaib Maqsood Mohammad Sami Sahibzada Farhan Asad Raza
    Saeed Ajmal Imran Butt Taj Wali Yasir Shah
    Asif Ali Khurram Shehzad Ali Waqas
    Faheem Ashraf Imran Khalid
    Ali Shan


    FATA

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    Usman Shinwari © Mukhtar Ahmed Bilawal Bhatti Usama Mir Shaheen Shah
    Rehan Afridi Naved Malik Sameen Gul Hammad Azam
    Asif Afridi Awais Zia Mohammad Naeem
    Khushdil Shah Nabi Gul
    Irfan Rasheed


    ISLAMABAD

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    Imad Wasim © Nauman Anwar Rahat Ali Shoaib Malik Arsal Sheikh
    Hasan Ali Adil Amin Umar Gul Rohail Nazir
    Zohaib Ahmed Shan Masood Ali Sarfraz
    Sarmad Bhatti Shehzad Azam
    Faizan Riaz


    KARACHI WHITES

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    Sarfaraz Ahmed © Khurram Manzoor Mir Hamza Haris Sohail Ibrar Ahmed
    Asad Shafiq Shahid Yousaf Tabish Khan Zulfiqar Babar
    Anwar Ali Akbar-ur-Rehman Danish Aziz
    Rumman Raees Azam Hussain
    Jahid Ali


    LAHORE BLUES

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    Mohammad Hafeez © Imam-ul-Haq Khalid Usman Mohammad Amir Ghulam Mudassar
    Babar Azam Tayyab Tahir Atif Jabbar Junaid Khan
    Ahmed Shehzad Abid Ali Agha Salman
    Hussain Talat Saad Nasim
    Adnan Akmal


    LAHORE WHITES

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    Salman Butt © Sami Aslam Ehsan Adil Aamer Yamin Hassan Khan
    Wahab Riaz Asif Ali Mohammad Irfan (FATA) Bilal Asif
    Kamran Akmal Asif Zakir Amad Butt
    Umar Akmal Raza Ali Dar
    Azhar Ali


    PESHAWAR

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    Mohammad Rizwan © Rifatullah Waqas Maqsood Fakhar Zaman Saif Badar
    Zohaib Khan Musadiq Ahmed Mohammad Imran Sohail Khan
    Israrullah Naved Yasin Kashif Bhatti
    Imran Khan Jr. Imran Khan
    Usman Qadir


    RAWALPINDI

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    Umar Amin © Fawad Alam Mohammad Irfan jr Iftikhar Ahmed Umair Masood
    Sohail Tanvir Zain Abbas Mohammad Abbas Mohammad Asghar
    Shadab Khan Ahsan Ali Rameez Aziz
    Mohammad Nawaz Nasir Nawaz
    Adnan Ghaus


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    Is this going to be televised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataullah View Post
    Is this going to be televised?
    I think PTV Sports will broadcast this.

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    Also,isn't Amir supposed to be playing County cricket at the time this T20 Cup will be held?

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    Fakhar is part of Peshawar's squad so I assume he is available. It's a joke he isn't one of the captains- he did a brilliant job in PC.

    Why is Hafeez one of the captains? Absolutely ridiculous. Mark this post- he is going to play the youngsters out of position because he feels threatened by them. Feel sorry for Talat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Also,isn't Amir supposed to be playing County cricket at the time this T20 Cup will be held?
    Someone tweeted amir wont play

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    Will be extremely silly to call back Zaman and Amir from their county stint for this rubbish tournament.

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    Apparently there is only one Karachi team in this tournament because one side from Karachi was relegated from the first class season. Can't understand the logic of relegating a team from a tournament based on its performance in a completely different format. And I for sure don't like the look of this Karachi side. As a Karachi supporter I believe KCCA needs to boycott this farcical tournament. I believe PCB is playing the game of petty politics.

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    I like the selection of Arsal Sheikh. Think he has the potential of becoming the Murlitharan of Pakistan. Definitely better then Saqlain Mushtaq.

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    There should've been 2 teams from Islamabad and at least 3 teams from Lahore and Rawalpindi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataullah View Post
    Someone tweeted amir wont play
    In that case, I assume Fakhar also won't play?

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    lol no Zafar Gohar

    Draft System ko


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    lol no Zafar Gohar

    Draft System ko
    Is he better than Zulfi?

    I think we all know the answer is no.


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    Very excited to see SHahyan shah afridi is picked by fata lets see how he performs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    lol no Zafar Gohar

    Draft System ko
    may be he is injured

    if not this is just ridiculous

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    I love Sarfraz but he's as pathetic as the others when it comes to picking his buddies/seniors for these domestic tourneys.


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    Sahibzada Farhan?

    Edit: In FSD, Hope Misbah leaves out his love for TTFs
    Last edited by Hamza_; 10th August 2017 at 17:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    Sahibzada Farhan?
    Faisalabad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Faisalabad.
    Quick as ever mate

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    Islamabad team is awful with Shan Masood, Rahat Ali, Umar Gul and Arsal Sheikh. Also why's Jahid Ali, Salman Butt and Azhar Ali been picked for T20s ?

    Anyway, these are the players whose performances I'll track because of the roles we need to fill in the LOI teams. We need another hard hitting opener to partner Fakhar Zaman, seam bowling ARs and off-spinners. I'd also seek more pace bowling depth.

    Faisalabad - Sahibzada Farhan and Fahim Ashraf.

    FATA - Mukhtar Ahmed and Awais Zia as we need an aggressive partner for Fakhar Zaman in T20s now we lost Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif. Usama Mir is also worth watching but Mickey/Sarfraz won't disturb a settled bowling unit after CT win.

    Islamabad - Nauman Anwar though he seems to have gone off the boil recently.

    Karachi Whites - Nobody of interest, though I guess you'd want to see how Haris Sohail is playing after his long layoff. Maybe Danish Aziz ?

    Lahore Blues - Hussain Talat, Agha Salman and Ghulam Mudassar.

    Lahore Whites - Aamer Yamin and Amad Butt.

    Peshawar - Nobody of interest but Saif Badar if he gets a game.

    Rawalpindi - Ahsan Ali, Mohammad Irfan jr, Mohammad Asghar and Umair Masood (let's see if he's any good as we need wicketkeeping depth).

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    Where are the defending Champions, Karachi Blues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Where are the defending Champions, Karachi Blues?
    just curious

    which karachi player are you excited in national t20 this year ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    In that case, I assume Fakhar also won't play?
    Yes no fakhar also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Where are the defending Champions, Karachi Blues?
    The top 8 First Class teams will play the national One Day and T20 Cups. Karachi Blues isn't among the top 8 First Class teams.

    Selecting teams for a T20 competition based on First Class performance. PCB Zindabad


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    Hope Rawalpindi and Faisalabad play the final! FATA is atrocious, baring Shaheen Shah Afridi. Karachi, as always, disappointed me with their selection. Peshawar, I guess is a mix bag of a team. Don't want to comment on any of Lahore squads!

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    where is Hasan Mohsin as emerging player...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovaisrafiq View Post
    where is Hasan Mohsin as emerging player...
    hes mediocre. was rubbish in recent tournaments.

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    Lahore Blues look like a solid team if Amir plays.


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    Arsal Sheikh

    And PCB wanted to root out nepotism through draft system.

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    can't really say which team i like but definitely sure about which team i despise.


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    Tournament filled with uncles .. Is sai behtr to Faisal bank tha atleast we used to have Sialkot and Pink teams full of youngsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    can't really say which team i like but definitely sure about which team i despise.
    Lhr Whites lol?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Lhr Whites lol?
    butt u aren't supposed to say this openly man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    butt u aren't supposed to say this openly man.
    Karachi has quite a few TTFs as well: Anu, Technique, Zulfi Cobra, Khurram, Akbar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Karachi has quite a few TTFs as well: Anu, Technique, Zulfi Cobra, Khurram, Akbar
    it's the akmal and butt overload that annoys me. on the happy front, somewhere in the world, a person who posts by the name hawkeye on pp will be having a day to rejoice and praise the universe.

    redemption has come home early. happy for him i think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    it's the akmal and butt overload that annoys me. on the happy front, somewhere in the world, a person who posts by the name hawkeye on pp will be having a day to rejoice and praise the universe.

    redemption has come home early. happy for him i think.
    Gotta give it to Hawkeye though. His support for the Akmal clan remains endless regardless of how many fitness and performance tests they fail each year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Gotta give it to Hawkeye though. His support for the Akmal clan remains endless regardless of how many fitness and performance tests they fail each year.
    and his day has come now so his patience has been rewarded.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    and his day has come now so his patience has been rewarded.
    Only till September 9 though because he'll be left disappointed yet again (he's probably used to it by now) when his mafia fail to reach the semis rby


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    Where is the much talked boy, shaheen afridi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamgeer View Post
    Where is the much talked boy, shaheen afridi?
    FATA.

    His name is Shaheen Shah Afridi (i.e. Shaheen Shah).


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    Below are the names I will be following- obviously I have excluded players who are already established in PCT. The ones in bold are the ones I will be keeping a particularly close eye on (typically promising young batsmen, all-rounders and/or t20 specialists):

    Faisalabad:

    Sahibzada Farhan
    • Faheem Ashraf
    • Asif Ali (assuming this is the one who plays for IU in PSL, as Lahore Whites have also selected an Asif Ali)

    As IU captain, Misbah has done well in giving youngsters game time (Shadab, Talat, Raees, Amad Butt and even Asif Ali) so hopefully he does the same here. Particularly looking forward to Farhan and Ashraf- they should benefit from Misbah’s experience.

    FATA:

    • Shaheen Shah Afridi
    • Khushdil Shah
    • Naved Malik

    • Mukhtar Ahmed (had an average tournament last year but PCT could do with some aggression)
    • Usama Mir
    • Usman Shinwari
    Sameen Gul (need more r/h pace bowlers)
    • Awais Zia (same as Mukhtar)
    • Nabi Gul (assuming it’s the one that is signed up with Zalmi)

    Excluding internationals, this is probably the best squad in terms of (i) young talent and (ii) t20 specialists. I haven’t seen Shinwari captain before but he has a decent squad to work with. Will be following this squad closely.

    I’m interested to see how Asif Afridi performs- haven’t seen him play but he has some decent stats. Anyone have any info on him?

    ISLAMABAD:

    • Nauman Anwar (had a very poor tournament last year but hopefully he rediscovers some form)
    • Sarmad Bhatti

    By far the worst squad from a young talent POV- some very poor selections- Masood, Rahat, Gul, Sheikh etc. The international players (Hassan Ali, Shoaib and Imad) are good/excellent t20 players so they will probably cover up how bad this squad is, but for me this is the worst squad from a young talent POV.

    KARACHI WHITES:

    Danish Aziz
    Mir Hamza
    • Haris Sohail (I know he was in the CT squad, but he hasn’t played recently and I want to see his form)

    Whilst I am looking very much looking forward to the trio of Sarfaraz, Raees and Sohail some of Karachi’s selections are poor, such as Zulfi and Manzoor. There are better options out there.

    LAHORE BLUES

    Hussain Talat
    Agha Salman (heard a lot about him so let’s see how he does)
    • Imam-ul-Haq
    • Ghulam Mudassar (still young but he looks a real talent)

    Feel sorry for Agha Salman and Talat- Hafeez will probably play them out of position on purpose. Feel particularly bad for Salman as he is in direct competition with Hafeez for a space in PCT. Only positive is that Mudassar (and probably Jabbar) are likely to get an extended run because Amir and Junaid are unlikely to play. Let’s see what they can do.

    LAHORE WHITES

    Aamer Yamin
    Amad Butt- (seems to have regressed, hopefully the NCA camp has done him some good)
    • Hassan Khan
    • Mohammad Irfan (FATA)

    The less said about the pre-allocated picks the better (the captain in particular). Seam bowling all-rounder duo of Yamin and Butt and spin duo of Khan and Irfan should be good.

    PESHAWAR

    Saif Badar
    • Naved Yasin

    If Rifatullah plays ahead of Badar, I give up. Badar will hopefully get some game time as Zaman won’t be available and Peshawar’s batting looks a little weak.

    RAWALPINDI

    Umair Masood
    • Ahsan Ali
    • Zain Abbas

    Two promising prospects. Ahsan played some good innings in last year’s tournament- was impressed by his strike rotation and his timing. Needs to be more consistent though- had some problems against left arm pace, hopefully he has gone away and worked on this.

    Out of all the squads, Rawalpindi are the only ones to select an up-and-coming wicketkeeper in Masood- well done.

    It’s also worth noting the spin trio of Shadab, Asghar and Nawaz- will be interesting to see if all three play. Iftikhar Ahmed is a poor choice, but on the whole a decent squad.
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    Pretty good selections overall

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    So many undeserving players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    So many undeserving players.
    No Ahmed Bashir. But that's okay because Rahat Ali is playing.

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    All at one ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    All at one ground
    Two: Multan and Faisalabad. But yes I take your wider point.

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    Weather forecasts for Multan and Faisalabad don't look too good. It's gonna be extremely hot.


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    Hope Lahore whites get smashed


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    Where is the senior Mohammad Irfan?
    Isnt his ban over?

    And also couldnt fin Raza Hassan as well? Now that his ban is over i guess.

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    Unbelievably poor squads, and if I consider Amir & Fakhar'll be out from these 120, it's difficult to believe that these are among top 120 cricketers of PAK!!! From my head, I can see at least half a dozen missing names; which could be due to injury but there are few names beyond any logic.

    I think, draft system is effective, only if it's applied properly. Open drafts are worst idea for younger players, under PCB like set up. In US Team Sports, they do use draft, but that's different than this. In NBA or MLB, every franchise has a settled team - during June Draft (NBA), teams pick one or two rookey, based on their team needs (& availability of free agents), therefore certainly top 50-60 young players are integrated every year into NBA into already an established squad. By chance, if someone misses out, he has couple of more chances in next 1/2 years - at the same time, Bryant was fast tracked at 18, before competing high school.

    But, PCB is using draft for selecting squad from scratch every year, and then selectors are picking their known faces - that's disaster. And they are planning to implement it in FC as well, which I think is a brain child of Haroon Rashid . May be, in T20, or at stress may be in List A, draft system can work, because those two formats are played with best combination, rather than best XI - but never in this way. Even in List A, draft should be limited to tournaments with at most 3/4 teams, which basically to club top 50 known faces for a short tournament as selection tool before a major tournament.

    I understand PCB's problem - since there are probably 16 regions and may be 134 Corporate teams, from Habib Bank to Omar Associates, God knows better .... therefore they can't fix teams & players - if they do with 8 teams, over 50% top players will miss out, for being part of a weaker team; so, it has to be some sort of draft. BUT, it MUST have to be a closed draft, otherwise any such tournament will become whose who ......

    The idea of a closed draft is that, National selectors/coaching staffs will select 120 players - approximately cascading 8 teams of 15 players, with similar 8 players clubbed into one strata/round. Teams at draft will pick one player from each set, based of their draft pick - after 15 rounds, more or less 8 teams should be similar in strength and cascading the National team. Thus, Ul Haq (National selectors) has the control of the payers he wants to be part of the tournament, while Mickey/Sarfraz (Coach/Captain) can easily identify a particular type of player for a particular role from the tournament. For example - in one group could be 8 all-rounders, so probably 1st 4 picks will be Shadab, Imad, Fahim & Yamin; but next 4 also will be like Hammad, Nasim, Aga Salman & Bilal Asif - so that all 8 knows their role & probably'll bat at 6/7. At current structure, it's actually counter productive - just look at one team, Amir, JK, Mudassar in same team, means 3 left arm pacers, then that Imran Khalid guy is a SLAO & icing on the cake is both Nasim & Aga 'll be fighting for one spot while Zulfi Baba will fight with Azam for that one spinner's spot - ideally, both should be is same round, so that they are picked by different teams.

    Regarding, missing of one Karachi team actually indicates immaturity & shallowness at long term planning level. I understand, it's a 2 edged knife - they dropped last years' champion for Taufique Umar case (dropping the best Test opener for ODI failure, that too for MoHa....), but what else they could have done? THERE is no follow up T20 tournament, neither Division 2 - so, either they have to drop teams based on FC standings or have to play those 8 teams every year (can drop bottom 2, but which teams & based on what 2 teams will replace them -
    there is no Division 2 or Patrons cup for T20).

    This is something I explained in my post on Domestic cricket - either PCB has to fix 8 teams covering whole PAK (separate from FC region, may be based on 8 (or 10) top Cities - Karachi, Lahore, F'bad, R'pindi, I'bad, Multan, Queta, Peshawar (S'kot & Hydrabad as well in case of 10 teams) and through closed draft top 120-150 players picked every year. Here, teams are fixed, only players change every year, but no such dispute that defending T20 Champs misses out qualification because of 4 day results

    Or the 2nd option is to split the tournament into 2 divisions of 8 each, with all 16 Regions participating - 3 relegated/promoted every year. And, this one can be with or without draft, because this time whole PAK is covered by 16 already established set up - regions should manage their squad for every year, may be under instructions for Ul Haq. Though, the players' base is increasing to 240 here, which should reduce the quality, but I tend to favor the 16 team model, because more than individual skills, T20 is based on combination and PAK actually has enough talent for 240 T20 players (but not more than 150 for FC cricket), but this system includes 2 divisions (so, finishing in top 5 or 3 is critical, more than finishing runners up in current system - in Europe, teams are more focused to finish in a Champion's League spot or outside relegation zone more than winning domestic Cup). Besides, this system creates a year long continuity under same management - that City based draft is a constant change every year, which isn't helpful grooming younger players.


    @DRsohail - that thread is probably closed, where you tagged me.


    @mak36 - bro, it's just the starting, unless PSL puts a cap on number of years as Emerging, you'll see the likes of Arshal Sheikhs making the squad every time till 23, then fake certificate to become 19 again ............. trust me, I didn't write that essay just to down play PSL.

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    Islamabad team is just to make numbers.. it will shocking if they win even a single game.. pathetic is a very small word..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Where is the senior Mohammad Irfan?
    Isnt his ban over?

    And also couldnt fin Raza Hassan as well? Now that his ban is over i guess.
    Mohammad Irfan's ban is not over. He was banned in late March for a year or a minimum of six months if he was to help in the investigations of PSL spot fixing scandal. Either way, it hasn't been 6 months yet let alone a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    I like the selection of Arsal Sheikh. Think he has the potential of becoming the Murlitharan of Pakistan. Definitely better then Saqlain Mushtaq.
    Sheikh saab, is that you?


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    Im glad the captaincy is with amin and not with sohail tanvir


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    Why Misbah is still playing ? , oh forgot , he is the future of Pakistan team , makes sense.

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    PCB claiming on the Facebook page that players playing in CPL and English domestic cricket will be called back for this competition.

    If that is the case, IMO that will be a ridiculous decision.

    You cannot just pull a T20 comp out your backside, announce the squads and fixtures 2 weeks before the start date then expect the players to give up on valuable experience around the world to pull out of their contracts and come along to deal with your unorganised garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Sheikh saab, is that you?
    I was being sarcastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by todfod 11 View Post
    Islamabad team is just to make numbers.. it will shocking if they win even a single game.. pathetic is a very small word..
    They will be competing with Karachi, outdoing each other, in how pathetic they are!

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    Why is misbah still playing, isn't he occuping place of a youngster

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    Who is skippering Lahore Whites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Who is skippering Lahore Whites?
    A former Pakistan captain.


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    I have played street cricket with Faizan Riaz of Islamabad. Good to see him selected for a televised tournament. Fluent batsman. Used to bowl like Murali but called for chucking.

    Hard to understand the continuous disregard of Shahid Ilyas one of Islamabad's best batsman and former u-19 player.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    PCB claiming on the Facebook page that players playing in CPL and English domestic cricket will be called back for this competition.

    If that is the case, IMO that will be a ridiculous decision.

    You cannot just pull a T20 comp out your backside, announce the squads and fixtures 2 weeks before the start date then expect the players to give up on valuable experience around the world to pull out of their contracts and come along to deal with your unorganised garbage
    share link pls or share pcb official facebook page.

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    Poor guy missed out on well-deserved selection for this tournament.


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    Ridiculous that Gohar wasn't selected. From being a flight away of making his Test debut, the poor guy can't even make it into a single team for a domestic tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    A former Pakistan captain.
    I find this decision absolutely appalling.
    An ex captain and a convicted fixer finds himself as captain of a domestic team.
    Beyond belief and this is precisely why I refuse to support Sethi and his cronies..
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 11th August 2017 at 18:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmiri_Pak_fan View Post
    share link pls or share pcb official facebook page.
    Officially announced now

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...tional-T20-Cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post



    Poor guy missed out on well-deserved selection for this tournament.
    I chuckled at the "Will Reach Goals" part... dude give up already.. you are 35 years old for Christ's sake. It's just not gonna happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I chuckled at the "Will Reach Goals" part... dude give up already.. you are 35 years old for Christ's sake. It's just not gonna happen.
    He often mentions Misbah and Younis when people bring up the age argument. Kami does the same.

    The likes of Faisal plan to continue for another decade, I'm sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I chuckled at the "Will Reach Goals" part... dude give up already.. you are 35 years old for Christ's sake. It's just not gonna happen.
    Hes blocked me because i left a negative comment☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    He often mentions Misbah and Younis when people bring up the age argument. Kami does the same.

    The likes of Faisal plan to continue for another decade, I'm sure.
    Poor fellow - great Mamu cost what could have been a fantastic career, instead of pushing him through back doors, Mamu should have availed him 3 years contract at Sussex or Glamargoan - by 2006-07, this guy should have been PAK's replacement of Ul Haq & I am serous here - no Pom batsmen ever mastered Warne with the confidence than this man did as a kid, while he was fantastic with his back-foot drives and cuts either side of point and his footwork against spinners was better than anyone debuting for Poms in this millennium apart from KP.

    Mamu himself was the toughest character & hardest worker, sadly his nephew was born with a great privilege - nephew of one of the ATG batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    LAHORE- August 10, 2017: The Player Selection Ceremony for the National T-20 Cup 2017 was held at a local hotel today. The eight participating teams Karachi Whites, Lahore Whites, Lahore Blues, Islamabad, FATA, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, and Faisalabad selected their teams from a list of over 150 players from all over the country.

    All participating teams were picked by their respective regional head, selector, captain and coach. Haroon Rasheed, Director Cricket Operations, PCB while addressing the ceremony expressed his pleasure at the organization of the tournament and hoped that the event will provide a platform for youngsters to showcase their talent.

    The eight-team tournament will commence from August 25, 2017 in two phases, where the first round matches would be played in Multan till August 31, 2017. The second and final stage of the tournament would start on September 4, 2017 in Faisalabad and conclude on September 10, 2017.

    A total number of 31 matches including the final will be played, where each team will play seven matches. The top four teams among the eight teams will compete in the semi-final on September 9, 2017 at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad, whereas the final will take place at the same venue on September 10, 2017.


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    KARACHI WHITES

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    Rohail Nazir, picked at 15(touching 16). Must be one hell of a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    Hope Rawalpindi and Faisalabad play the final! FATA is atrocious, baring Shaheen Shah Afridi. Karachi, as always, disappointed me with their selection. Peshawar, I guess is a mix bag of a team. Don't want to comment on any of Lahore squads!
    Care to explain this?

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    Imad should not accept captaincy with this pathetic team of Islamabad. He will lose and people will make calls on his captaincy skills then.
    He should see that he has been made the scapegoat here.
    Last edited by hadi123; 12th August 2017 at 09:25.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    I like the selection of Arsal Sheikh. Think he has the potential of becoming the Murlitharan of Pakistan. Definitely better then Saqlain Mushtaq.
    Whaaattttt????

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Mohammad Irfan's ban is not over. He was banned in late March for a year or a minimum of six months if he was to help in the investigations of PSL spot fixing scandal. Either way, it hasn't been 6 months yet let alone a year
    Ban is counted from the time of suspension which I guess happened in February 2017 and his ban is of 6 months effective if he doesnt involve in any other issue during that time. If he does involve in something than the ban is of 1 year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Unbelievably poor squads, and if I consider Amir & Fakhar'll be out from these 120, it's difficult to believe that these are among top 120 cricketers of PAK!!! From my head, I can see at least half a dozen missing names; which could be due to injury but there are few names beyond any logic.

    I think, draft system is effective, only if it's applied properly. Open drafts are worst idea for younger players, under PCB like set up. In US Team Sports, they do use draft, but that's different than this. In NBA or MLB, every franchise has a settled team - during June Draft (NBA), teams pick one or two rookey, based on their team needs (& availability of free agents), therefore certainly top 50-60 young players are integrated every year into NBA into already an established squad. By chance, if someone misses out, he has couple of more chances in next 1/2 years - at the same time, Bryant was fast tracked at 18, before competing high school.

    But, PCB is using draft for selecting squad from scratch every year, and then selectors are picking their known faces - that's disaster. And they are planning to implement it in FC as well, which I think is a brain child of Haroon Rashid . May be, in T20, or at stress may be in List A, draft system can work, because those two formats are played with best combination, rather than best XI - but never in this way. Even in List A, draft should be limited to tournaments with at most 3/4 teams, which basically to club top 50 known faces for a short tournament as selection tool before a major tournament.

    I understand PCB's problem - since there are probably 16 regions and may be 134 Corporate teams, from Habib Bank to Omar Associates, God knows better .... therefore they can't fix teams & players - if they do with 8 teams, over 50% top players will miss out, for being part of a weaker team; so, it has to be some sort of draft. BUT, it MUST have to be a closed draft, otherwise any such tournament will become whose who ......

    The idea of a closed draft is that, National selectors/coaching staffs will select 120 players - approximately cascading 8 teams of 15 players, with similar 8 players clubbed into one strata/round. Teams at draft will pick one player from each set, based of their draft pick - after 15 rounds, more or less 8 teams should be similar in strength and cascading the National team. Thus, Ul Haq (National selectors) has the control of the payers he wants to be part of the tournament, while Mickey/Sarfraz (Coach/Captain) can easily identify a particular type of player for a particular role from the tournament. For example - in one group could be 8 all-rounders, so probably 1st 4 picks will be Shadab, Imad, Fahim & Yamin; but next 4 also will be like Hammad, Nasim, Aga Salman & Bilal Asif - so that all 8 knows their role & probably'll bat at 6/7. At current structure, it's actually counter productive - just look at one team, Amir, JK, Mudassar in same team, means 3 left arm pacers, then that Imran Khalid guy is a SLAO & icing on the cake is both Nasim & Aga 'll be fighting for one spot while Zulfi Baba will fight with Azam for that one spinner's spot - ideally, both should be is same round, so that they are picked by different teams.

    Regarding, missing of one Karachi team actually indicates immaturity & shallowness at long term planning level. I understand, it's a 2 edged knife - they dropped last years' champion for Taufique Umar case (dropping the best Test opener for ODI failure, that too for MoHa....), but what else they could have done? THERE is no follow up T20 tournament, neither Division 2 - so, either they have to drop teams based on FC standings or have to play those 8 teams every year (can drop bottom 2, but which teams & based on what 2 teams will replace them -
    there is no Division 2 or Patrons cup for T20).

    This is something I explained in my post on Domestic cricket - either PCB has to fix 8 teams covering whole PAK (separate from FC region, may be based on 8 (or 10) top Cities - Karachi, Lahore, F'bad, R'pindi, I'bad, Multan, Queta, Peshawar (S'kot & Hydrabad as well in case of 10 teams) and through closed draft top 120-150 players picked every year. Here, teams are fixed, only players change every year, but no such dispute that defending T20 Champs misses out qualification because of 4 day results

    Or the 2nd option is to split the tournament into 2 divisions of 8 each, with all 16 Regions participating - 3 relegated/promoted every year. And, this one can be with or without draft, because this time whole PAK is covered by 16 already established set up - regions should manage their squad for every year, may be under instructions for Ul Haq. Though, the players' base is increasing to 240 here, which should reduce the quality, but I tend to favor the 16 team model, because more than individual skills, T20 is based on combination and PAK actually has enough talent for 240 T20 players (but not more than 150 for FC cricket), but this system includes 2 divisions (so, finishing in top 5 or 3 is critical, more than finishing runners up in current system - in Europe, teams are more focused to finish in a Champion's League spot or outside relegation zone more than winning domestic Cup). Besides, this system creates a year long continuity under same management - that City based draft is a constant change every year, which isn't helpful grooming younger players.


    @DRsohail - that thread is probably closed, where you tagged me.


    @mak36 - bro, it's just the starting, unless PSL puts a cap on number of years as Emerging, you'll see the likes of Arshal Sheikhs making the squad every time till 23, then fake certificate to become 19 again ............. trust me, I didn't write that essay just to down play PSL.
    Thats the good thing about draft system as players are not picked as they played a lot of first class cricket and have astonishing averages but rather on their international potential. Captain, coach and other ppl part if these teams managements pick players on the basis of how they rate players as they have seen them play and have played against them.

    To be honest eye for talent is what gives you players like Shadab and Hassan Ali which would have struggled to make international squads on stats alone.

    Still share some names if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    Rohail Nazir, picked at 15(touching 16). Must be one hell of a player.
    Yes, he must be good because he scored 104, 133 and 57 against Australia under 16s and wasn't bad in T20s either against them. I don't normally get excited about 15 year olds but I am keeping an eye on this kid, also a keeper

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Yes, he must be good because he scored 104, 133 and 57 against Australia under 16s and wasn't bad in T20s either against them. I don't normally get excited about 15 year olds but I am keeping an eye on this kid, also a keeper
    as always great knowledge about pakistan cricket

    who are other to watch out from the players that are playing i know shaheen shah and mudassar

    did not know about others that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    as always great knowledge about pakistan cricket

    who are other to watch out from the players that are playing i know shaheen shah and mudassar

    did not know about others that much
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