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    Quote Originally Posted by todfod 11 View Post
    Imad should not accept captaincy with this pathetic team of Islamabad. He will lose and people will make calls on his captaincy skills then.
    He should see that he has been made the scapegoat here.
    What are you talking about? They have got one hell of a bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Yasir Jan, Sameen Gul, Hasan Mohsin
    Yasir Jan and Hasan Mohsin are not there in any of the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketerB94 View Post
    Yasir Jan and Hasan Mohsin are not there in any of the squad.
    yes, I am aware , but they are still young talents whose progress should be monitored when they do get a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Ban is counted from the time of suspension which I guess happened in February 2017 and his ban is of 6 months effective if he doesnt involve in any other issue during that time. If he does involve in something than the ban is of 1 year.
    Irfan was banned in April.... played whole PSL.


    SIR DONALD BRADMAN ------SORRY, BUT NO ONE LIKE HIM

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Yes, he must be good because he scored 104, 133 and 57 against Australia under 16s and wasn't bad in T20s either against them. I don't normally get excited about 15 year olds but I am keeping an eye on this kid, also a keeper
    Thanks for the info- will keep an eye out for Nazir.

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    Last edited by Abdullah719; 12th August 2017 at 16:49.

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    Every team has got at least 3 players to watch out for.

    Faisalabad:
    Faheem Ashraf, Sahibzada Farhan, Asad Raza.

    FATA:
    Khushdil Shah, Shaheen Shah, Sameen Gul, Nabi Gul.

    Islamabad:
    Nauman Anwar, Adil Amin, Rohail Nazir.

    Karachi Whites:
    Mir Hamza, Haris Sohail, Danish Aziz.

    Lahore Blues:
    Hussain Talat, Imam ul Haq, Tayyab Tahir, Agha Salman, Ghulam Mudassar.

    Lahore Whites:
    Sami Aslam, Muhammad Irfan, Aamir Yamin, Amad Butt, Hassan Khan.

    Peshawar:
    Mohammad Rizwan, Saif Badar, Usman Qadir.

    Rawalpindi:
    Umar Amin, Mohammad Nawaz, Zain Abbas, Ahsan Ali, Umair Masood.

    All these players are on the brink of making their international or PSL debut and the selectors and PSL franchises will be watching these players closely.
    Team wise, I think Peshawar is the least exciting team among all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    Ridiculous that Gohar wasn't selected. From being a flight away of making his Test debut, the poor guy can't even make it into a single team for a domestic tournament.
    See Kashmiri fan's post- Gohar has tweeted he is injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmiri_Pak_fan View Post
    Where is Kamran Ghulam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketerB94 View Post
    Where is Kamran Ghulam?
    laapattah for last few months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Thats the good thing about draft system as players are not picked as they played a lot of first class cricket and have astonishing averages but rather on their international potential. Captain, coach and other ppl part if these teams managements pick players on the basis of how they rate players as they have seen them play and have played against them.

    To be honest eye for talent is what gives you players like Shadab and Hassan Ali which would have struggled to make international squads on stats alone.

    Still share some names if possible.
    I might have over looked few names, but probably was expecting the names of Saud Shakil, Zeeshan Malik, Saad Ali, Rafique (U19 Captain), Muzammil, Raja Hasan, Gohar, Ehtesham, Amer Bashir ... not necessarily I have seen them all, but these are the players being invested in last couple of years.

    Also, from recent U19 regional cup (I searched that for another post), we can see couple of players - Ruhail Nazir & Afridi; but I was expecting few more names as well, notably Taha Khan, Ashir Quarishi - not necessarily they are good for sure, but I see few names in this list, which hardly make sense on stats or age.

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    Ruhail Nazir has to be an exceptional talent, because he is WK. Unless he has bunked 4/5 years, he is a certain prospect as Sarfraz's understudy. Also, the age gap is perfect - in 4/5 years time should be ready to challenge Sarfu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Care to explain this?
    Which part? The part where I say Karachi disappointed me again, which they did by not selecting their top under19 performers in their senior side. Don't want to comment on Lahore because of my obvious bias, aka akmals, butt and co., so don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Peshawar have some good players but some not so good players. Will discuss Peshawar later. I like the look of Faisalabad and Rawalpindi because their squads are well rounded with a decent blend of youth and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Care to explain this?
    FATA don't have a single decent batsman. That's why I believe they are atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I chuckled at the "Will Reach Goals" part... dude give up already.. you are 35 years old for Christ's sake. It's just not gonna happen.
    35 or not - he was never good to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Fakhar is part of Peshawar's squad so I assume he is available. It's a joke he isn't one of the captains- he did a brilliant job in PC.

    Why is Hafeez one of the captains? Absolutely ridiculous. Mark this post- he is going to play the youngsters out of position because he feels threatened by them. Feel sorry for Talat.
    Well salman butt is one of the captains.

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    Can't Misbah stop playing. Hail MYK in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I might have over looked few names, but probably was expecting the names of Saud Shakil, Zeeshan Malik, Saad Ali, Rafique (U19 Captain), Muzammil, Raja Hasan, Gohar, Ehtesham, Amer Bashir ... not necessarily I have seen them all, but these are the players being invested in last couple of years.

    Also, from recent U19 regional cup (I searched that for another post), we can see couple of players - Ruhail Nazir & Afridi; but I was expecting few more names as well, notably Taha Khan, Ashir Quarishi - not necessarily they are good for sure, but I see few names in this list, which hardly make sense on stats or age.
    Forget abt missed out players. See if The young players selected in the this cup will get a chance. I can already see that Sami Asiam, imam ul HAQ, Umar masood will warm the bench for the entire tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Well salman butt is one of the captains.
    I have already given my thoughts on that: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...98#post9394498

    My criticism of Hafeez being selected as captain is for cricketing reasons which is why I explained my reasoning, whereas the reasons for my opposition to Butt's captaincy should be obvious. What I actually want to say about Butt being chosen to captain one of the sides is not repeatable so I will refrain from saying anything else about Butt being chosen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Forget abt missed out players. See if The young players selected in the this cup will get a chance. I can already see that Sami Asiam, imam ul HAQ, Umar masood will warm the bench for the entire tournament
    Umair Masood is the only keeper in his squad I think so he will be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    FATA don't have a single decent batsman. That's why I believe they are atrocious.
    That’s grossly unfair especially when you consider the fact that they are the only team to overwhelmingly select young players. As I have said previously, FATA have the best squad in terms of (i) young talent and (ii) t20 specialists.

    You mentioned how their batting is “atrocious.” Naved Malik, Mukhtar Ahmed and Awias Zia are specialists in the shorter format and are decent selections- especially given Pakistan’s need for aggressive batsmen. It will be interesting to see what kind of form they are in.

    In addition, Khushdil Shah and Nabi Gul are two young up and coming batsmen. Shah is part of Zalmi’s squad and did pretty well in the recent Ramadan t20 cup from memory.

    Nabi Gul has a very small sample size but he played for Zalmi in the emirates t20 cup against Durham and came out on top as can be seen here: http://cricketbadger.com/2017/03/emi...rham-in-dubai/

    Especially when you look at the other squads, not sure how you can say FATA’s squad is atrocious. I for one hope they do well in the tournament so the other teams get the message that if they keep selecting TTFs they will lose out.

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    Everyone needs to calm down we won't see any of the young and talented players as all Pak players in foreign leagues shall be returning and except one or maybe two captain might play a youngster to avoid competition for national team

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    Didn't notice early - the choice of Captains is even vulgar show.

    Don't know what's could be the logic of appointing Misbah, Butt, MoHa, Shinwari, Amin, Rizwan - if they are to use this tournament as a breeding ground. May be, up to Amin I can understand, but Rizwan, Shinwari .. really; least said about the other 3 is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Forget abt missed out players. See if The young players selected in the this cup will get a chance. I can already see that Sami Asiam, imam ul HAQ, Umar masood will warm the bench for the entire tournament
    Open drafts are the worst thing for younger players or selecting players. This draft idea in Cricket isn't new - long back, every year BCCI used to arrange Challenger trophy between IND Red, Green & Blue or such, where National selectors used to pick top 36 players in 3 teams, leaving out few like Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble, Zak .... to rest. But, that teams were selected by National selectors, with specific players picked for specific role/spot and teams were instructed to try particular strategy. BCB still arranges such triangular before start of cricket season.

    But, in this model of PCB, apart from nepotism during draft, younger players will be marginalized on field as well. Just take one team - ideally Lahore Blues line-up should be

    Imam/Shehzad at 1/2, Babar at 3, Aga at 4, Talat at 5 and Nasim or MoHa at 6 - I can write now that Hafeez is going to bat as opener, which'll put Talat out of squad or position. Imam is Inzi's nephew - MoHa won't change his spot, neither drop him; he is good at this - he'll open with Imam (If it was List A, MoHa would have batted at 3/4, but 20 overs it too short to risk), Shehzad at 3, Babar at 4 and rest are to slog for few balls ......

    I would have suggested that, Talat should fake injury and sit out, rather than batting at 7 for 5 balls - invariably he'll fail and that'll be used against him when it matters.
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    Is Rohail Nazir the sole wk in Islamabad squad??? In this case he is a sure starter. Or Nauman too keeps wickets ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    Everyone needs to calm down we won't see any of the young and talented players as all Pak players in foreign leagues shall be returning and except one or maybe two captain might play a youngster to avoid competition for national team
    One emerging player is must I guess. So we are gonna see atleast 1 young player playing in every match for all the teams. So no threat from the seniors here. Emerging player rule is the best one to give opportunity to youngsters, did the trick in PSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    Irfan was banned in April.... played whole PSL.
    Thanks for the correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    That’s grossly unfair especially when you consider the fact that they are the only team to overwhelmingly select young players. As I have said previously, FATA have the best squad in terms of (i) young talent and (ii) t20 specialists.

    You mentioned how their batting is “atrocious.” Naved Malik, Mukhtar Ahmed and Awias Zia are specialists in the shorter format and are decent selections- especially given Pakistan’s need for aggressive batsmen. It will be interesting to see what kind of form they are in.

    In addition, Khushdil Shah and Nabi Gul are two young up and coming batsmen. Shah is part of Zalmi’s squad and did pretty well in the recent Ramadan t20 cup from memory.

    Nabi Gul has a very small sample size but he played for Zalmi in the emirates t20 cup against Durham and came out on top as can be seen here: http://cricketbadger.com/2017/03/emi...rham-in-dubai/

    Especially when you look at the other squads, not sure how you can say FATA’s squad is atrocious. I for one hope they do well in the tournament so the other teams get the message that if they keep selecting TTFs they will lose out.
    I don't buy the argument of T20 specialist. Calling a player a t20 specialist, for me, means either the player is incapable of playing a long innings or he doesn't have the technique to do so. I prefer the later argument for my reasoning.
    Moving on to Khushdil Shah, I believe that traditionally the left handers are classy to watch but in Khushdil Shah I don't see any class and in all honesty I don't believe he has the potential to represent Pakistan.
    As far as Nabi Gul is concerned I haven't seen him play and until and unless I see him play with my own eyes I can't get my hopes up.
    But if you believe that players like Mukhtar Ahmed, Khushdil Shah, Naveed Malik, Awais Zia and Nabi Gul can represent Pakistan in future then good luck.
    The only selection I like from this FATA team is the selection of Shaheen Shah Afridi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    I don't by the argument of t20 specialist. Calling a player a t20 specialist, for me, means either the player is incapable of playing a long inning or he doesn't have the technique to do so. I prefer the later argument for my reasoning.
    Moving on to Khushdil shah, I believe that traditionally the left handers are classy to watch but in Khushdil shah I don't see any class and in all honesty I don't believe he had the potential to represent Pakistan.
    As far as Nabi Gul is concerned I haven't seen him play and until and unless I see him play with my own eyes I can't get my hopes up.
    But if you believe that players like Mukhtar Ahmed, Khushdil Shah, Naveed Malik, Awais Zia and Nabi Gul can represent Pakistan in future then good luck.
    The only selection I like from this FATA team is the selection of Shaheen Shah Afridi.
    I think you are reading too much into the term t20 specialist. All I meant was that they are players suited to playing T20 which in turn means their selection for a T20 tournament is sensible (I would have thought that was obvious). I would much rather see such players selected in the tournament (even if they fail) than the likes of Shan Masood, Asif Zakir and Azhar Ali, Khurram Shehzad etc. That is particularly true when one considers Pakistan's need for aggressive batsmen.

    This is where your misunderstanding comes in. I am not saying FATA's players will necessarily succeed/represent Pakistan. Rather I am saying that at least FATA had the right idea when they chose their squad- ie selecting (i) young talent and/or (ii) players suited to the t20 format. Both of these factors mean at least FATA tried to meet the needs of the Pakistan national team rather than selecting TTFs and/or players not suited to T20. In my view, rating the squads is a comparative exercise. When you look at the other squads, FATA is the best in terms of giving youngsters an opportunity which is what everyone wants to see. In other words, FATA's squad is the best of a bad bunch. I would agree that FATA's stronger suit looks to be their bowling but (i) that is the nature of the draft and (ii) that doesn't make their batting atrocious. If you are saying their squad selection is "atrocious" how would you describe the other squads?

    By the way, the two teams you want to see in the final are Rawalpindi and Faisalabad. As I have earlier, both have made some good batting selections (Farhan, Ashraf, Asif Ali, Umair Masood, Ahsan Ali and Zain Abbas) but their squads also include the likes of Khurram Shehzad, Iftikhar Ahmed, and Rameez Aziz. But that doesn't make their squads "atrocious." By the same token it's wrong to describe FATA's squad as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    I think you are reading too much into the term t20 specialist. All I meant was that they are players suited to playing T20 which in turn means their selection for a T20 tournament is sensible (I would have thought that was obvious). I would much rather see such players selected in the tournament (even if they fail) than the likes of Shan Masood, Asif Zakir and Azhar Ali, Khurram Shehzad etc. That is particularly true when one considers Pakistan's need for aggressive batsmen.

    This is where your misunderstanding comes in. I am not saying FATA's players will necessarily succeed/represent Pakistan. Rather I am saying that at least FATA had the right idea when they chose their squad- ie selecting (i) young talent and/or (ii) players suited to the t20 format. Both of these factors mean at least FATA tried to meet the needs of the Pakistan national team rather than selecting TTFs and/or players not suited to T20. In my view, rating the squads is a comparative exercise. When you look at the other squads, FATA is the best in terms of giving youngsters an opportunity which is what everyone wants to see. In other words, FATA's squad is the best of a bad bunch. I would agree that FATA's stronger suit looks to be their bowling but (i) that is the nature of the draft and (ii) that doesn't make their batting atrocious. If you are saying their squad selection is "atrocious" how would you describe the other squads?

    By the way, the two teams you want to see in the final are Rawalpindi and Faisalabad. As I have earlier, both have made some good batting selections (Farhan, Ashraf, Asif Ali, Umair Masood, Ahsan Ali and Zain Abbas) but their squads also include the likes of Khurram Shehzad, Iftikhar Ahmed, and Rameez Aziz. But that doesn't make their squads "atrocious." By the same token it's wrong to describe FATA's squad as such.
    OK, I take my words back. Nothing can make me happier than to see this FATA squad proving me wrong.

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    Lahore Blues .......... what a team.


    The debt we owe to play of imagination is incalculable - Carl Gustav Jung

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    OK, I take my words back. Nothing can make me happier than to see this FATA squad proving me wrong.
    I respect that. Here's hoping.

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    Looking forward to see Haris playing with Sarfraz.
    Haris has to come in test team as soon as possible. Hope this helps.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Sarfraz has a liking for Zulfi Baba. Zulfi is also a member of Sarfraz's Quetta squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    lol no Zafar Gohar

    Draft System ko
    Agree!

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    Why there are two teams from Lahore and only 1 from Karachi? what is the criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hailian View Post
    Agree!
    He's injured. Wasn't aware of his injury when I posted.


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    Why there is no Sialkot team? They didnt qualify ?

    They have always been the most exciting team along with Pindi full of youth suitable for t20s.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Why there is no Sialkot team? They didnt qualify ?

    They have always been the most exciting team along with Pindi full of youth suitable for t20s.
    I'll be interested to hear your views on FATA's squad. My thoughts are above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hailian View Post
    Why there are two teams from Lahore and only 1 from Karachi? what is the criteria?
    See here: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...tournament-Why


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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    I'll be interested to hear your views on FATA's squad. My thoughts are above.
    Unfortunately I dont know much about the Fata players like Khushdil, Rehan Afridi, Asif Afridi etc but good to see they have some exciting youngsters like Shaheen, Usama Mir, Sameen etc.

    Like you I watch these tournaments to see mostly upcoming youngsters to see the potential or the players I back and see their improvement/weaknesses in game. Thats why despite being from Islamabad my favorite teams are always Sialkot and Pindi as they had most youngsters or Karachi if Sarfraz was captain not Afridi or Khalid Lateef.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Unfortunately I dont know much about the Fata players like Khushdil, Rehan Afridi, Asif Afridi etc but good to see they have some exciting youngsters like Shaheen, Usama Mir, Sameen etc.

    Like you I watch these tournaments to see mostly upcoming youngsters to see the potential or the players I back and see their improvement/weaknesses in game. Thats why despite being from Islamabad my favorite teams are always Sialkot and Pindi as they had most youngsters or Karachi if Sarfraz was captain not Afridi or Khalid Lateef.
    I too don't know much about the two Afridis, but yes the other names you have mentioned are good selections- will be keeping a close eye on them.

    Yes, exactly. In my view, such tournaments are a testing ground for bigger things (ie fulfilling the needs of the national team). Whichever team(s) assist in that endeavour (by selecting young talent and/or players suited to the shorter format) I will support.

    Pindi have chosen a decent squad- will follow Ahsan Ali and Umair Masood closely. That said, i'm not all that taken by their "free" picks.

    In terms of young talent, I can't say I am that impressed by Karachi's squad this year (barring Danish Aziz and Mir Hamza). However, I am of course excited to see Sarfaraz, Rumman and Sohail team up.

    ps. The less said about Islamabad's "emerging" player the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    ps. The less said about Islamabad's "emerging" player the better.
    Zohaib Ahmed (Sheikh's nephew) is Islamabad's default captain in the absence of Imad. Ab bnda kia kahay..

    Few of the best players of Islamabad never make it to Islamabad team in domestic tournaments due to unknown reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Zohaib Ahmed (Sheikh's nephew) is Islamabad's default captain in the absence of Imad. Ab bnda kia kahay..

    Few of the best players of Islamabad never make it to Islamabad team in domestic tournaments due to unknown reasons.
    Wow- nepotism runs deep.

    As for your second point, I think we both know the reason why (case in point ^).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Zohaib Ahmed (Sheikh's nephew) is Islamabad's default captain in the absence of Imad. Ab bnda kia kahay..

    Few of the best players of Islamabad never make it to Islamabad team in domestic tournaments due to unknown reasons.
    Surprisingly, his record isn't bad.

    Batting average of 20.79 (100+ SR) and a bowling average of 23.12

    Now, only those who have seen him can give context to those numbers and his leadership skills.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    Surprisingly, his record isn't bad.

    Batting average of 20.79 (100+ SR) and a bowling average of 23.12

    Now, only those who have seen him can give context to those numbers and his leadership skills.
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan...er/222848.html
    Bro you are talking about this guy?
    He is the definition of phateechar player. He is the default captain of Islamabad in all formats since Imad has become a permanent member of National team. Have seen him too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    Surprisingly, his record isn't bad.

    Batting average of 20.79 (100+ SR) and a bowling average of 23.12

    Now, only those who have seen him can give context to those numbers and his leadership skills.
    SR of 104 with that average and a bowling economy of almost 8 with less than a wicket per match. Pretty mediocre stats for T20s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    Surprisingly, his record isn't bad.

    Batting average of 20.79 (100+ SR) and a bowling average of 23.12

    Now, only those who have seen him can give context to those numbers and his leadership skills.
    I haven't seen him ever, but from stats I can tell few things. Apart from T20, which you can say border line acceptable, his other stats are atrocious for a player playing so many matches. In 80 FC matches, he has 161 wickets at 30/47 & 3.88 stats - means this guy uses his every opportunity as Captain to bowl at tails (91 balls/FC matches, so about 10 overs/innings). This is from a player who bats with an average around 20.

    His list A batting average is higher than FC (23), but at horrible SR of 68 - this is worse than MoHa in his first 50 ODI. SR & average tells that this guy as Captain bats much higher than he should be (47 innings in 59 matches, means he bats roughly at 5 or 6, not lower) and then bats utmost selfishly, hence SR of 68.

    His List A bowling stats are shambolic - 33 wickets in 59 matches at 52+ average & 6+ economy - BUT, killer number is <1800 balls in 59 matches - that's <5 overs/match - means this guy makes the team as genuine all-rounder and then keeps bowling few overs to his preferred batsmen - still average of 52. That 5 overs/match for a player of 23/68 batting stats, means basically this guy is counter productive for his team at even domestic level - occupying one batting & bowling spot and he is not good at either; then they are justifying his inclusion by making him captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan...er/222848.html
    Bro you are talking about this guy?
    He is the definition of phateechar player. He is the default captain of Islamabad in all formats since Imad has become a permanent member of National team. Have seen him too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    SR of 104 with that average and a bowling economy of almost 8 with less than a wicket per match. Pretty mediocre stats for T20s.
    Yeah the more you dissect his stats, the worse it gets.

    He must be relying on those base stats in T20 cricket. Otherwise, utter rubbish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I haven't seen him ever, but from stats I can tell few things. Apart from T20, which you can say border line acceptable, his other stats are atrocious for a player playing so many matches. In 80 FC matches, he has 161 wickets at 30/47 & 3.88 stats - means this guy uses his every opportunity as Captain to bowl at tails (91 balls/FC matches, so about 10 overs/innings). This is from a player who bats with an average around 20.

    His list A batting average is higher than FC (23), but at horrible SR of 68 - this is worse than MoHa in his first 50 ODI. SR & average tells that this guy as Captain bats much higher than he should be (47 innings in 59 matches, means he bats roughly at 5 or 6, not lower) and then bats utmost selfishly, hence SR of 68.

    His List A bowling stats are shambolic - 33 wickets in 59 matches at 52+ average & 6+ economy - BUT, killer number is <1800 balls in 59 matches - that's <5 overs/match - means this guy makes the team as genuine all-rounder and then keeps bowling few overs to his preferred batsmen - still average of 52. That 5 overs/match for a player of 23/68 batting stats, means basically this guy is counter productive for his team at even domestic level - occupying one batting & bowling spot and he is not good at either; then they are justifying his inclusion by making him captain.


    Absolutely.

    I felt embarassed for him with the other two formats.

    Heck, you look at his T20 batting and realize he can't even hit sixes. Only 6 sixes in 36 T20 innings!

    Must be one of the greatest leaders of all time to justify a spot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Basically this guy is counter productive for his team at even domestic level - occupying one batting & bowling spot and he is not good at either; then they are justifying his inclusion by making him captain.
    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    Yeah the more you dissect his stats, the worse it gets.

    He must be relying on those base stats in T20 cricket. Otherwise, utter rubbish.
    He's Shakeel Shaikh's nephew.

    We don't need any more justification.
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 16th August 2017 at 03:44.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post


    Absolutely.

    I felt embarassed for him with the other two formats.

    Heck, you look at his T20 batting and realize he can't even hit sixes. Only 6 sixes in 36 T20 innings!

    Must be one of the greatest leaders of all time to justify a spot.

    He is not alone actually. Because of his famous uncle, he gets a bit bashing here in PP, but half of the players of PCB domestic don't deserve to play in top level. They are holding their spot, delaying younger players by 4/5 years - and this cycle continues; these deprived youngsters'll do the same when they reach 35, hence PAK domestics is easily the oldest by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Thanks, got my answer there. to people who are also curious like me, teams are selected base on their FC season ranking.

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    very disaapointed to see imran khalid and saeed Ajmal etc but no kamran ghulam and many youngsters @MMHS....this draft system is rediculous...
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    They are denying chances to an exceptional batting talent Saud Shakeel. Don't remember him being picked in any of the recent tournaments.

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    how does butt manage to get selected but Asif can't?
    i guess butt got really good connections


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Has Pindi asked the fog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Why thank you.

    What amazing sources you must have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Why thank you.

    What amazing sources you must have.
    I private message him all the info


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    Will this be televised?


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    Any news on timings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Why thank you.

    What amazing sources you must have.
    I have the best sources.

    Thanks for the help.


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    Cannot see this picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra_Cover View Post
    Cannot see this picture.
    You can see the fixtures here directly. http://www.pcb.com.pk/national-t20-c...ment/1115.html


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    the good thing is that Misbah will be playing BPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    I have the best sources.

    Thanks for the help.
    I was just pulling your leg.

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    So some of the top performers from the QeA like Saad Ali and Raza Hasan wont be playing this tournament because the squads were picked ages ago. They should re-pick the teams.

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    Fixture changed, but squad remains same?

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    Who are the captains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Who are the captains?
    has been given in the squad.i think misbah will be missing it due to BPL.

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    legendry PCB one of the top hitter in domestics and a top performer with the bat in qEA trophy Kamran Ghulam is not there,..and where is samin Gul.

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    Lahore–November 9, 2017: The Cool & Cool T-20 Cup 2017-18 will commence from November 11, 2017 to November 26, 2017 in Rawalpindi. Eight teams namely Karachi Region Whites, Faisalabad Region, Lahore Region Whites, Lahore Region Blues, Peshawar Region, FATA Region, Rawalpindi Region and Islamabad Region will participate in the tournament. Each team will play seven matches in the tournament with four top teams will qualify for the semi-finals. The first match will start at 12pm and second match will start at 4pm daily.


    Prize Money


    Category Amount
    - Winner Rs. 2,000,000/-

    - Runners Up Rs. 1,000,000/-

    - Man of the Match (Final) Rs. 50,000/-

    - Best Batsman of the Tournament Rs. 50,000/-

    - Best Bowler of the Tournament Rs. 50,000/-

    - Best Outstanding Cricketer/All Rounder
    of the Tournament Rs. 50,000/-

    - MOM for each match except Final Rs. 25,000/-

    - Most sixes, Most fours, Most wickets

    Most catches, Rs. 25,000/- each for

    Semi Finals and Final Rs. 300,000/-

    - Each Sixer Rs. 1,000/-


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    each six is good but prize money is too less for this tournament.

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    That's pathetic prize money by the PCB.

    They should have learned their lesson by now if you pay the players enough no one would have to go down the path of fixing. This is the priemer domestic T20 cup. I think the winning team should get at least 1 crore (especially when EACH player got that amount for winning the CT)! WTH is 2 million rupees=~20,000 USD. 15 member squad with coaches and other staff, that doesn't even equate to $1000 per person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmkextreme_1 View Post
    That's pathetic prize money by the PCB.

    They should have learned their lesson by now if you pay the players enough no one would have to go down the path of fixing. This is the priemer domestic T20 cup. I think the winning team should get at least 1 crore (especially when EACH player got that amount for winning the CT)! WTH is 2 million rupees=~20,000 USD. 15 member squad with coaches and other staff, that doesn't even equate to $1000 per person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmkextreme_1 View Post
    That's pathetic prize money by the PCB.

    They should have learned their lesson by now if you pay the players enough no one would have to go down the path of fixing. This is the priemer domestic T20 cup. I think the winning team should get at least 1 crore (especially when EACH player got that amount for winning the CT)! WTH is 2 million rupees=~20,000 USD. 15 member squad with coaches and other staff, that doesn't even equate to $1000 per person.
    Price money is perfect, actually price money hardly goes to players. What is important is match fee & guarantee money, revenue share, sponsorship share, gate money share etc - together all goes as a one time contract fee for tournament. Total price money is probably around 3.5mn - mak it 10 times - 3.5 crore, still the amount won't be distributed to every player.

    Calculate it other way -

    8 teams, 120 players - in 4 Category for the tournament contract - A, B, C, D> 30 each, with a tournament fee (that's for participating, regardless of match play) say 400K, 300K, 200K, 100K, that's

    = 120 X (30 (400000+ 300000+ 200000 + 100000) = 30,000,000

    Total 31 matches (28 + 2 + 1), 22 playing 8 on reserve.

    Match fee say 10K/match for starters, 5K for bench. Double it for SF, quadruple in Final. For MoM 25K, 50K & 100K

    = 28 X (22 X 10000 + 8 X 5000) = 7,280,000
    + 2 X (22 X 20000 + 8 X 10000) = 1,040,000
    + 1 X (22 X 40000 + 8 X 20000) = 1,040,000

    MoM = 28 X 25000 + 2 X 50000 + 1 X 100000 = 900,000


    Total = 30.00mn + 7.28mn + 1.04mn + 1.04mn + 0.90mn = 40.26mn (char crore, do lac, shaat hazzar ..)

    after that, put 1 Rupee coin for the price money of the Final, still players will give 200%. There are several Brands who'll be happy to sponsor that <$0.40mn US, if it's marketed properly.

    These price monies are bluffs, to fool people - someone is sucking the all the creams between the bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    legendry PCB one of the top hitter in domestics and a top performer with the bat in qEA trophy Kamran Ghulam is not there,..and where is samin Gul.
    Some of the players in the squads won't be available. Misbah was supposed to captain a side but he's at BPL. Shaheen Shah is away at U19 duty. Some players like Shinwari injured. I assume teams will pick up replacements.


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    Are the matches televised and if so... where?

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    Lahore whites has to be the most uninspiring team ever, followed by Karachi whites who just played Asad Shafiq as an opener in a t20.

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