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    The complicated relationship of Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis

    In spite of forming one of the most potent bowling partnerships ever the relationship between wasim and waqar has been a rocky one

    Imo waqar has always had a complex because of wasim

    Wasim is everything Waqar aspired to be and he has always suffered because he didn't manage to emerge out of his shadow

    It all started with the 92 world cup where Wasim became a legend and Waqar was out injured.

    That was where Wasim stole Waqar's thunder who was the best bowler in the world from 89-92 and the world cup was supposed to be his tournament.

    Waqar had another opportunity to have his moment in the 96 world cup but he got destroyed by jadeja while Wasim cleverly avoided that match

    The humiliation that Waqar faced because of that and the criticism that he was subject to did a lot of damage to his career.

    While Wasim lead to pakistan to a world cup final in 99, Waqar lead the team to a disastrous tournament only 4 years later.

    Wasim retired as a bigger legend of Pakistan and Waqar probably feels that if it wasn't for him his stock would have been far higher.

    After retirement Wasim was able to secure mega money coaching gigs with the most marketable IPL franchise (kolkata) while the only thing Waqar got in 10 years of ipl was one brief stint with Sunrisers Hyderabad

    As a result Waqar kept himself available for the pakistan coaching job and both his tenures ended in misery.

    In spite of coaching pakistan for years he was not considered good enough by any PSL franchise while Wasim immediately got a deal with Islamabad United and now has moved to Multan where he has once again left Waqar in his dust

    How do you see the relationship between these two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo23 View Post
    in spite of forming one of the most potent bowling partnerships ever the relationship between wasim and waqar has been a rocky one

    imo waqar has always had a complex because of wasim

    wasim is everything waqar aspired to be and he has always suffered because he didn't manage to emerge out of his shadow

    it all started with the 92 world cup where wasim became a legend and waqar was out injured

    that was where wasim stole waqar's thunder who was the best bowler in the world from 89-92 and the world cup was supposed to be his tournament

    waqar had another opportunity to have his moment in the 96 world cup but he got destroyed by jadeja while wasim cleverly avoided that match

    the humiliation that waqar faced because of that and the criticism that he was subject to did a lot of damage to his career

    while wasim lead to pakistan to a world cup final in 99,waqar lead the team to a disastrous tournament only 4 years later

    wasim retired as a bigger legend of pakistan and waqar probably feels that if it wasn't for him his stock would have been far higher

    after retirement wasim was able to secure mega money coaching gigs with the most marketable ipl franchise (kolkata) while the only thing waqar got in 10 years of ipl was one brief stint with sunrisers hyderabad

    as a result waqar kept himself available for the pakistan coaching job and both his tenures ended in misery

    in spite of coaching pakistan for years he was not considered good enough by any psl franchise while wasim immediately got a deal with islamabad united and now has moved to multan where he has once again left waqar in his dust

    how do you see the relationship between these two?


    Their relationship is a lot more complex than that. Yes, they ate each otherís brains out during their playing time, but it was a love-hate relationship. They were constantly at each otherís throats, but it didnít stop Wasim from praising Waqar and admiring him as his comrade in his 1998 Autobiography. Similarly, despite all that adversity, they still had some ďgood-timeĒ off the pitch (hint: West Indies bust 94).

    Post retirement(s), they have been much more amicable and respectful of each other. They have appeared on shows together, reflected upon their pasts in many interview and did come to the realization that they were both somewhat childish in their actions.

    This most recent quote has been taken out of context. Waqar was lamenting, but in no way is motivated by jealousy. And it isnít as big a deal as people are making it to be with sound-bites.

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    As magnificent as the 2 Ws were for Pakistan cricket, they were also very destructive. The constant factionalism and infighting throughout the 90s meant that team failed to achieve its full potential.

    They both plotted against each other's captaincy. Waqar led the players revolt against Wasim in 1994 that saw him replaced with Salim Malik, after Javed Miandad and Moin Khan had been controversially left out of the squad for a series vs New Zealand.

    The worst of the infighting was around the 2002-03 period, culminating in the awful World Cup campaign where they were barely on speaking terms. Either you were in Wasim's camp or Waqar's. It was clear some of the players weren't playing for Waqar.

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    Pakistan team has always had the potentual to be the best team in the world, if it could rid itslef of the childish immature behaviour, and lie by the words there is no "I" in team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misia View Post
    Pakistan team has always had the potentual to be the best team in the world, if it could rid itslef of the childish immature behaviour, and lie by the words there is no "I" in team
    Yes, there is no I in team, but there is me.


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    they were also very destructive. The constant factionalism and infighting throughout the 90s meant that team failed to achieve its full potential.

    They both plotted against each other's captaincy. Waqar led the players revolt against Wasim in 1994 that saw him replaced with Salim Malik, after Javed Miandad and Moin Khan had been controversially left out of the squad for a series vs New Zealand.

    The worst of the infighting was around the 2002-03 period, culminating in the awful World Cup campaign where they were barely on speaking terms. Either you were in Wasim's camp or Waqar's. It was clear some of the players weren't playing for Waqar.
    Good post though you have written only a part of damage they have done.
    Imo these two should stay away from our youngsters along with other 90s and early 2000s 'legends'.

    Pakistan is a cricket crazy nation we will find our way and hopefully able players too who put the team first.

    If I have a choice to pick an exceptional talent with 9.5/10 marks but behavior issues and on other side a not great player with 7/10 marks but a selfless die heart attitude and work ethic for Pakistan cricket team I know who I will pick in my team.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Waqar isnt the only person with which wasim had feuds. He had feuds with miandad, saleem malik and later aamer sohail, rashid latif as well. Kudos to wasim, he has a charming persona these days and is very humble to endear to us all.

    But in his playing days he was clearly the most narcissistic player of the team then. Do read the dawn cricket articles after 1996 WC as well as 2003 WC to get the complete picture about him. It is that same attitude that was then passed on to the afridis, maliks, and now akmal, shehzad which holds no respect for team cohesion and results.

    This is the reason the 90's team under-achieved. We remember them fondly because they were super successful in sharjah and would beat india regularly which would make us forget how horrendous they werein other tournaments. Zaleel hi krwaya tha is so called great team ne hume har jaga siwaye england aur new zealand k. We had 14 match losing streak in the 1990's against SA at one point. I used to call Allan donald pakistan's executioner because of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    As magnificent as the 2 Ws were for Pakistan cricket, they were also very destructive. The constant factionalism and infighting throughout the 90s meant that team failed to achieve its full potential.

    They both plotted against each other's captaincy. Waqar led the players revolt against Wasim in 1994 that saw him replaced with Salim Malik, after Javed Miandad and Moin Khan had been controversially left out of the squad for a series vs New Zealand.

    The worst of the infighting was around the 2002-03 period, culminating in the awful World Cup campaign where they were barely on speaking terms. Either you were in Wasim's camp or Waqar's. It was clear some of the players weren't playing for Waqar.
    More than that its a great tragedy that they only played together 50% (or so) of the Tests in which their career overlapped


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