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    Time for Bangladesh to open their hearts and let their Muslim brothers in from Myanmar

    We did the same for Afghanistan and Bangladeshi Muslims need to step up also.

    I understand that their are domestic political issues but these are fellow Muslims - if they cannot intervene militarily, then help in raising the issue at the top level.


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    They can't because the current BD government is supported by the extremist party of India. They are a puppet state.
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    B.D have accepted a certain amount of refugees but they themselves are a struggling poor country. They cant keep accepting Rohingyas in their thousands once any violence breaks out.

    Bangladesh also isnt a theykeydar of Muslims it isnt an ideological state in that sense. Ideally Rohingya issue should be spread out between all of the neighbours in the region so one country is over extended with refugees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adil_94 View Post
    B.D have accepted a certain amount of refugees but they themselves are a struggling poor country. They cant keep accepting Rohingyas in their thousands once any violence breaks out.

    Bangladesh also isnt a theykeydar of Muslims it isnt an ideological state in that sense. Ideally Rohingya issue should be spread out between all of the neighbours in the region so one country is over extended with refugees.
    No then ask countries like Gulf States to help with the financial aspect

    But pls dont be heartless and turn them away.

    What's the point of all this Eid Qurbani when you cannot make a personal sacrifice for your fellow Muslim bros?


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    Why should they? Just because they are Muslim? Pakistan have paid the consequences for taking on Afghan refugees.

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    @MenInG we all know Gulf mentality if its non Arabs they dont give a damn what is happening to them. Gulf nations havent said uff to India over Kashmir despite strong ties with Pakistan.

    asking Gulf nations for help will fall.on deaf ears. They just view south asians as slaves to do their labour work for them.

    Best thing to do is to pressure Burmese govt which is a backed by Beijing. Pakistan could raise the issue with China but we all know what Chinas response would be.

    Bangladesh needs financial support to set up safe zones there to hold the refugees temporarily and then send them back once the trouble dies down. But no rich Muslim country will give them that support.

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    Bangladesh will never help them, it take guts and a massive heart to do what Pakistanis did in the 1980s. Sab kay bas ki baat nahe hoti !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adil_94 View Post
    @MenInG we all know Gulf mentality if its non Arabs they dont give a damn what is happening to them. Gulf nations havent said uff to India over Kashmir despite strong ties with Pakistan.

    asking Gulf nations for help will fall.on deaf ears. They just view south asians as slaves to do their labour work for them.

    Best thing to do is to pressure Burmese govt which is a backed by Beijing. Pakistan could raise the issue with China but we all know what Chinas response would be.

    Bangladesh needs financial support to set up safe zones there to hold the refugees temporarily and then send them back once the trouble dies down. But no rich Muslim country will give them that support.
    so they let their brothers die across a borderline?

    How about opening borders and then saying to Muslim World help? Do you think people will not help?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma_ View Post
    They can't because the current BD government is supported by the extremist party of India. They are a puppet state.
    What is the point of dragging India here?Stop insulting Bangladesh,they are a proud sovereign nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    What is the point of dragging India here?Stop insulting Bangladesh,they are a proud sovereign nation.

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    Half of Bengal lies in India, when the Rohingyas originally settled in Burma many generations ago they would have been Indians as there was no such country called Bangladesh. So in reality, Bangladesh is no more obliged to take in these refugees than India.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    so they let their brothers die across a borderline?

    How about opening borders and then saying to Muslim World help? Do you think people will not help?
    That would be nice but the gulf have a very vile mentality towards everyone who is not an arab, Pakistani's should never put them on a pedestal. The gulf are the equivalent of Iblees himself and they don't have a heart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    That would be nice but the gulf have a very vile mentality towards everyone who is not an arab, Pakistani's should never put them on a pedestal. The gulf are the equivalent of Iblees himself and they don't have a heart.
    bro we are committing a big sin by assuming that Arabs are not helping muslims around the world. Lets not fall in that trap. The Arabs I know have big hearts but they need to be sure that their aid is going to the right place. Just like all of us would be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    That would be nice but the gulf have a very vile mentality towards everyone who is not an arab, Pakistani's should never put them on a pedestal. The gulf are the equivalent of Iblees himself and they don't have a heart.
    The Gulf countries are individual nation states same as Pakistan. All of these countries have borders and strict immigration control. Unless they are claiming to represent Muslims worldwide, I think it is unfair to lay the blame at their door for refugee problems across the globe.

    The only Islamic state I can think of which didn't have strict rules for entry for Muslims across the globe was Iraq under ISIS control. Perhaps we could arrange for transport for the Rohingyas to territory controlled by them, but I think it is dwindling very fast so probably not realistic.


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    Bangladesh has accepted quite a few Rohingya refugees over the years and the refugees have been known to get involved in criminal activities in Bangladesh.

    Regardless, the situation in Myanmar is becoming increasingly desperate now and there is possible genocide going on and the world especially Bangladesh cannot just keep turning a blind eye to the situation. Together with being more accommodative with borders, Bangladesh should explore military options as well. Myanmar army even violated Bangladeshi airspace a few days ago.

    Ironically, Bangladesh and Myanmar almost went to war in 2008 when it came to offshore oil reserves in the Bay of Bengal but Bangladesh is now just standing by when people in their tens of thousands are being slaughtered. That sums up the cold, heartless woman that Hasina is.

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    The gulf states would probably enslave the refugees, so probably not a good idea handing them over to the arab, they also risk being radicalised. And what is there to blame the likes of saudi anyway besides funding extremism around the globe


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    The gulf states would probably enslave the refugees, so probably not a good idea handing them over to the arab, they also risk being radicalised. And what is there to blame the likes of saudi anyway besides funding extremism around the globe
    once again generalization

    Gulf states are not the neighbours of Burma.

    Also no need to bring India in this

    They are not a Muslim country and profess to be brothers of Muslims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Half of Bengal lies in India, when the Rohingyas originally settled in Burma many generations ago they would have been Indians as there was no such country called Bangladesh. So in reality, Bangladesh is no more obliged to take in these refugees than India.
    Not even half of bengal lies in India.They would have been british indians.Post partition the homeland of muslim bengalis is BD as per terms of the partition.


    Neither BD nor India are oblidged to take these refugees.If i am not wrong BD govt considers them a security risk and shared the same intel with India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    once again generalization

    Gulf states are not the neighbours of Burma.

    Also no need to bring India in this

    They are not a Muslim country and profess to be brothers of Muslims.
    Constitutionally even BD is not a islamic country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Not even half of bengal lies in India.They would have been british indians.Post partition the homeland of muslim bengalis is BD as per terms of the partition.


    Neither BD nor India are oblidged to take these refugees.If i am not wrong BD govt considers them a security risk and shared the same intel with India.
    Bangladesh is the homeland for Muslims who were born in Bangladesh, that doesn't include Rohingyas who were born in Burma pre-partition. It's a ludicrous suggestion, otherwise Bangladesh would be obliged to accept people of Bengali heritage from all over the globe like Britain and India.

    If you believe the Rohingyas are a security risk then you probably agree that it is better that they are left to be slaughtered by the Burmese security forces, and indeed that would be understandable if they did indeed pose a security risk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    once again generalization

    Gulf states are not the neighbours of Burma.

    Also no need to bring India in this

    They are not a Muslim country and profess to be brothers of Muslims.
    I've not bought in India this is nothing to do with them and no one is asking charity from the gulf either but don't agree with how they're painted as some good samaritans when history suggests otherwise but no doubt there are some arabs which are good people


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    Rohingyas ethnically and culturally and linguistically are bengalis

    What this Bangladesh government has done is completely heartless and immoral and they will suffer the wrath of
    God for claiming to be Muslims and then being such cowards with rohingyas

    What these rohingya brothers and sisters have suffered is simply horrifying this is pure genocide

    If anyone can help with charities aid agencies in Burma please do help and donate .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Bangladesh is the homeland for Muslims who were born in Bangladesh, that doesn't include Rohingyas who were born in Burma pre-partition. It's a ludicrous suggestion, otherwise Bangladesh would be obliged to accept people of Bengali heritage from all over the globe like Britain and India.

    If you believe the Rohingyas are a security risk then you probably agree that it is better that they are left to be slaughtered by the Burmese security forces, and indeed that would be understandable if they did indeed pose a security risk.
    The partition was based on the theory that muslims of the SC needed a separate country so if anyone has any obligation to accept these refugees then it is the the muslim country that was created out of the partition.

    Though logically speaking no country is obligated to take in Rohingyas except Myanmar.

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    @MenInG you are living in an idealistic world. This Muslim world that everyone goes on about the grief is only outpoured for certain cases like Palestinians and Syrians. that get the worldwide attention or support of the "ummah".

    5h
    the richest Muslim majority countries i.e the Gulf states will not help Rohingyas at all or give Bangladesh aid to help them. The Gulf is renowned for its racist attitudes to South Asians n generally all non arab non whites. and has no real desire to involve itself in non arab issues.

    Bangladesh can only take so much refugees being such a densely populated 3rd world country itself. The fact Rohingyas are Muslims is neither here nor there. All of Burmas neighbours should be pressurising them to stop the persecution so a refugee crisis doesnt arise in the first place.

    China can pressurise the Burmese govt to stop but China itself persecutes certain groups and it doesnt care. Pakistan wont jepoardise its position

    And Erdogan wont put his money where his mouth is and send flotilla aid ships to Burma. Rohingyas arent Gazans .

    Bangladesh never professes to be the brothers or protectors of Muslims.

    Pakistan is the only nation created in the name of Islam and Muslims but it wont fallout with China over Uyghurs never mind Rohingyas.

    There is a hierarchy of sympathy in the Muslim world Arab victims are at the top then comes everyone else.

    Rohingyas Uyghurs Nigerians are at the bottom of the pile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    The partition was based on the theory that muslims of the SC needed a separate country so if anyone has any obligation to accept these refugees then it is the the muslim country that was created out of the partition.

    Though logically speaking no country is obligated to take in Rohingyas except Myanmar.
    As I keep saying, the Rohingyas were settled in Burma long before the partition, so I don't understand why you keep using that to push your view that Bangladesh should be obliged to take the refugees rather than India. Something you yourself agree has no logic in the next sentence. Make your mind up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adil_94 View Post
    @MenInG you are living in an idealistic world. This Muslim world that everyone goes on about the grief is only outpoured for certain cases like Palestinians and Syrians. that get the worldwide attention or support of the "ummah".

    5h
    the richest Muslim majority countries i.e the Gulf states will not help Rohingyas at all or give Bangladesh aid to help them. The Gulf is renowned for its racist attitudes to South Asians n generally all non arab non whites. and has no real desire to involve itself in non arab issues.

    Bangladesh can only take so much refugees being such a densely populated 3rd world country itself. The fact Rohingyas are Muslims is neither here nor there. All of Burmas neighbours should be pressurising them to stop the persecution so a refugee crisis doesnt arise in the first place.

    China can pressurise the Burmese govt to stop but China itself persecutes certain groups and it doesnt care. Pakistan wont jepoardise its position

    And Erdogan wont put his money where his mouth is and send flotilla aid ships to Burma. Rohingyas arent Gazans .

    Bangladesh never professes to be the brothers or protectors of Muslims.

    Pakistan is the only nation created in the name of Islam and Muslims but it wont fallout with China over Uyghurs never mind Rohingyas.

    There is a hierarchy of sympathy in the Muslim world Arab victims are at the top then comes everyone else.

    Rohingyas Uyghurs Nigerians are at the bottom of the pile.
    Palestine and Syria get more attention and hence sympathy, because they get global coverage due to world conflicts which draw in America and Europe, not because they are Arab. Yemen for instance barely gets a mention, similar to Myanamar despite being Arabs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    As I keep saying, the Rohingyas were settled in Burma long before the partition, so I don't understand why you keep using that to push your view that Bangladesh should be obliged to take the refugees rather than India. Something you yourself agree has no logic in the next sentence. Make your mind up.
    As i said no one is oblidged to take in the rohingyas.Its the duty of the Burmese.

    But if anyone is morally responsible to take muslim refugees of the country its the country that was created on basis of islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    As I keep saying, the Rohingyas were settled in Burma long before the partition, so I don't understand why you keep using that to push your view that Bangladesh should be obliged to take the refugees rather than India. Something you yourself agree has no logic in the next sentence. Make your mind up.
    Maybe Britain should take them in. They created the mess. Also we see a lot of British folks here sympathising with the Rohingyas.

    Britain btw, had no qualms taking in the rich African Indians. Why is the secular British government discriminating against the Rohingyas?

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    @Adil_94 is such an underrated poster, his historical IQ is very high


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    As i said no one is oblidged to take in the rohingyas.Its the duty of the Burmese.

    But if anyone is morally responsible to take muslim refugees of the country its the country that was created on basis of islam.
    Pakistan is not the neighbour and its not easy. We have a situation where people are standing outside the door and we wont let them in. That is disgusting. Pakistan did its duty with Afghan immigrants when the time arose. Bangladesh is an Islamic country (I am not talking about labels)


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    Statement by Pak Ministry of Foreign Affairs

    Reaction to reports of deaths of Rohingya Muslims

    (2017-09-03) Pakistan is deeply concerned over reports of growing number of deaths and forced displacement of Rohingya Muslims. Such reports, if confirmed, are a source of serious concern and anguish.

    Pakistan urges authorities in Myanmar to investigate reports of massacre, hold those involved accountable and take necessary measures to protect the rights of Rohingya Muslims.

    In line with its consistent position on protecting the rights of Muslim minorities worldwide, Pakistan will work with the international community in particular the OIC to express solidarity with the Rohingya Muslims and to work towards safeguarding their rights.


    http://www.mofa.gov.pk/pr-details.php?mm=NTMxNw,,


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    @Cpt.Rishwat that too Yemen gets less attention as it is a Sunni Arab power that is killing Shia Houthis in Yemen. The sectarianised nature of the conflict its being portrayed as a way to stop Iranian proxies gaining a foothold on the borders of Saudi it has quelled a lot of the outrage that would have been the case if it was America or Israel doing that type of bombing.

    Amongst a lot of expat or 2nd and 3rd gen Brit Pakistanis Palestine and Syria gets a lot more traction than say Kashmir.

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    Neither India nor BD are signatories to the UN convention on refugees so we can refoule refugees as we please. Whether that's morally right or not is a different question altogether. The greater question is why are the Burmese not giving them citizenship and equal rights. Surely that is the bigger question. And when signatories like the US and Australia have blatantly violated the UN convention why should Bangladesh do any better? I feel sorry for the rohingyas but the staunch reality is that nobody really cares about them. Anyway it's delusional to even assume that Muslims would help because they are co-religionists. Rohingyas are constantly persecuted even in Malaysia - a so called Islamic country.


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    @MenInG Bangladesh is a Muslim majority state its not an Islamic country its constitution is secular. its under no extra obligation to take rohingyas simply because they share the same faith as them. Pakistan is sending a lot of the Afghans back now after the constant namak ****** it has got from them despite provoding refuge in a time of need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Pakistan is not the neighbour and its not easy. We have a situation where people are standing outside the door and we wont let them in. That is disgusting. Pakistan did its duty with Afghan immigrants when the time arose. Bangladesh is an Islamic country (I am not talking about labels)
    BD is not a islamic country they proudly say they are a muslim majority non islamic country.

    Question is who can afford to take these people?Almost none can in the SC due to population and financial reasons.BD also considers them a security risk and shared the same with India.The burmese also shared the same opinion.

    The Burmese are responsible for Rohingyas.The UNSC statement againist Burma was blocked by china and russia.

    http://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/neighbour/1229378
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    As i said no one is oblidged to take in the rohingyas.Its the duty of the Burmese.

    But if anyone is morally responsible to take muslim refugees of the country its the country that was created on basis of islam.
    Stop talking **. Pakistan was created because Muslims were treated as 2nd class and wanted their rights. Jinnah was hardly Islamic himself.

    So no it's not Pakistans job to take these refugees who are being treated despicably in Burma - they should seek the nearest refugee which should be Bangladesh. If Bangladesh are deporting them then a Big shame on their government because these desperate people have nowhere to go.

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    Not all Rohingya are Muslim, there's a Hindu minority that is also being ethnically cleansed by Burmese forces.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hnic-cleansing

    In a Hindu village a mile north-west of Kutupalong, Hindu Rohingya from Rakhine are sheltering having also fled there through the mountains. The Observer counted about 200 people, mostly women, children and the elderly, crammed into a wooden barn.

    “We fled because we heard the fighting and we heard that Hindus elsewhere had been killed,” a woman with three children said.

    Azad said: “The problem is that nobody can show any convincing solution. The international community is limited to criticism. The Rohingya have no friends in Myanmar.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    @Adil_94 is such an underrated poster, his historical IQ is very high
    Adil_94, Yossarin, Yasir, Mamoon, Cricketjoshila are pretty awesome in pretty much every topic you can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    As i said no one is oblidged to take in the rohingyas.Its the duty of the Burmese.

    But if anyone is morally responsible to take muslim refugees of the country its the country that was created on basis of islam.
    But you yourself are insisting that Bangladesh is a proudly secular state, so where is the moral responsibility to take refugees simply because they are Muslims? You need to choose one stance and then stick to that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GBK_Fan View Post
    Maybe Britain should take them in. They created the mess. Also we see a lot of British folks here sympathising with the Rohingyas.

    Britain btw, had no qualms taking in the rich African Indians. Why is the secular British government discriminating against the Rohingyas?
    Britain is on a different continent 6000 miles away, the public here probably wouldn't even know there's a place called Myanamar. What a strange idea. Is this sort of logic common amongst Indians?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adil_94 View Post
    @Cpt.Rishwat that too Yemen gets less attention as it is a Sunni Arab power that is killing Shia Houthis in Yemen. The sectarianised nature of the conflict its being portrayed as a way to stop Iranian proxies gaining a foothold on the borders of Saudi it has quelled a lot of the outrage that would have been the case if it was America or Israel doing that type of bombing.

    Amongst a lot of expat or 2nd and 3rd gen Brit Pakistanis Palestine and Syria gets a lot more traction than say Kashmir.
    That again is because Kshmir isn't a world issue, it's an issue between two countries on the subcontinent so obviously gets less attention than globalised conflicts which drag in America and Europe. No one would care about Afghanistan either but for the same reason, the Anglo-American forces have been drawn into the conflict which has made it a worldwide issue. If they were involved in Kashmir, you can bet it would be a massive issue for Brits, whatever their heritage.


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    Not to detail the thread but anyone claiming that the arabs should help and they should get involved and help because they are Muslim is laughable at best. Having worked in Bahrain and Saudi a while back illl tell you that the arabs treat south asians as second class slaves regardless of them being Muslim, Hindu or Christian. They collectively look down on Bangladeshis, Indians and Pakistani as a whole. They are treated as laborers and the less said about the women from south Asian continent who come to work in middleeast as maids, nannies and servants the better... Do a few google searches or YouTube searches and you'll know what I mean...The only rhetoric they care about is destroying Israel and helping Palestine..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    We did the same for Afghanistan and Bangladeshi Muslims need to step up also.

    I understand that their are domestic political issues but these are fellow Muslims - if they cannot intervene militarily, then help in raising the issue at the top level.
    Firstly , Islam without Khilafat and power is no Islam at all. You cannot practice Islam without power.

    ( Here I must add that in Islam there is No force , people are free to practice there religions , but administrations will be under Islamic shariah . The Non - Muslims will pay jizia , and they will be protected more than Muslims. There places of worship will be protected more than Mosques , and in case of war , they cannot be forced to fight for Islamic state. Prophet Muhammad SAW himself said that if under Islamic shariah a NON - Muslim is treated badly or with injustice , then I myself will be witness for him on that day
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    The problem today is that all these rulers of so called Muslim states have become puppets , and no longer see Muslims as a Ummah . They will pay heavily for there decisions on the day of judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Stop talking **. Pakistan was created because Muslims were treated as 2nd class and wanted their rights. Jinnah was hardly Islamic himself.

    So no it's not Pakistans job to take these refugees who are being treated despicably in Burma - they should seek the nearest refugee which should be Bangladesh. If Bangladesh are deporting them then a Big shame on their government because these desperate people have nowhere to go.
    Why is it Bangladesh's responsibility?On what basis?

    When in british india were muslim treated as second class?The entire non white community was treated as second class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Britain is on a different continent 6000 miles away, the public here probably wouldn't even know there's a place called Myanamar. What a strange idea. Is this sort of logic common amongst Indians?
    I am sure the refugees will find a way. You have Pakistani refugees in Germany, cashing in on the Syrian refugee exodus. I am sure the persecuted Rohingyas have it in them to reach the warm embrace of their UK brothers

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    Where are the demonstrations & marches to the Burmese embassy in London organised by British Muslims and Asians? If it was Palestinians we would see thousands on the streets descend to the Israeli embassy.

    At least in Moscow there is some action:
    https://www.rt.com/news/401869-mosco...ar-solidarity/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBK_Fan View Post
    I am sure the refugees will find a way. You have Pakistani refugees in Germany, cashing in on the Syrian refugee exodus. I am sure the persecuted Rohingyas have it in them to reach the warm embrace of their UK brothers
    You can be as sure as you like, but the reality is starkly different. There are no Rohingyas reaching Britain, they are either being slaughtered in Burma or turned back at the borders of neighbouring countries. So your mocking of their plight just comes across as religious bigotry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan View Post
    Where are the demonstrations & marches to the Burmese embassy in London organised by British Muslims and Asians? If it was Palestinians we would see thousands on the streets descend to the Israeli embassy.

    At least in Moscow there is some action:
    https://www.rt.com/news/401869-mosco...ar-solidarity/
    Perhaps in Russia the Muslims have more of a sense of Islamic brotherhood. British Muslims are clearly more secular and we should probably join hands with our Asian brothers to demonstrate on behalf of the Rohingya. But as it's not widely reported or commented on among British Asians, perhaps it's not getting attention through ignorance. Sadly the vast majority of desis don't visit sites like this so will be blissfully unaware.


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    World isn't an ideal place I assume these guys are being persecuted because of religious differences? Shameful really one can only hope god gives sense to people in power to realise humanity trumps all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    You can be as sure as you like, but the reality is starkly different. There are no Rohingyas reaching Britain, they are either being slaughtered in Burma or turned back at the borders of neighbouring countries. So your mocking of their plight just comes across as religious bigotry.
    Ohh so you don't like other posters making facetious posts? I was just following your lead. The world needs to find a solution to the crisis. Insisting India or Bangladesh to open their borders won't stop the Burmese army. And as multiple people have pointed out we have too many of our own to feed, to care about a million more

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    I agree with @MenInG's point, but now is not the time for this.

    Maybe in 10 years if things are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBK_Fan View Post
    Ohh so you don't like other posters making facetious posts? I was just following your lead. The world needs to find a solution to the crisis. Insisting India or Bangladesh to open their borders won't stop the Burmese army. And as multiple people have pointed out we have too many of our own to feed, to care about a million more
    I have no idea what you are talking about, which of my posts was facetious? All I see is a human tragedy unfolding and people using it to score points or indulge in religious bigotry. As someone has already pointed out, the victims aren't only Muslims so it's in poor taste anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I agree with @MenInG's point, but now is not the time for this.

    Maybe in 10 years if things are better.
    Doesn't look like there will be any Rohingya left in 10 years, at this rate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    What is the point of dragging India here?Stop insulting Bangladesh,they are a proud sovereign nation.

    @Executioner
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    At one point there were almost a million Rohinga living illegally in BD, and still now there is a significant number of Rohingas living in BD. It's not about foreign policy dictated by any country, rather protecting own interest. Also, people talking bold here about Afghan refuge crisis should study a bit better on the US foreign policy of Carter/Regan during cold war and how Zia Ul Haq suddenly became a reliable US "partner" against communism - big heart indeed.

    One of many such available

    http://www.unhcr.org/research/workin...-practice.html

    Rohinga issue is a global humanitarian crisis, like several in Africa. It can't be solved by one country just because we share the common border.

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    Rohinga issue needs a soultion, otherwise these hapless people will be extinct from global map in couple of decades. Last data I can recall is that in 1980, number of Rohinga was 3.5-3.8 mn, now it's around 1.8-1.9mn, after 4 decades.

    There is one more thread in this topic which can be merged here. I had a post on this in that thread which I am copying

    For last 10-12 years, over a quarter million Rohinga's are living illegally in Bangladesh - at one point, it went much higher, but Govt. has been strict on this in last few months. I do understand their sufferings & feel for them, but BD is by far the most dense country in world. If you take out City based states like Singapore, Hong Kong, Monaco, our density is around 1200/sqKM, next is South Korea at around 450 & next probably India at 350+ .... that's more than twice of the 2nd country. The economy is growing fast, still it's one of the poorest country in world & we simply can't accommodate 2mn Rogingas without expanding the border. Besides, these hapless people are deprived of any human skill development for generations - they are basically illiterate human being without any technical skills apart from traditional fishing/sailing & agriculture, therefore they can't be consumed even as factory workers or transportation labor.

    I see, two realistic solution is this - one won't be accepted by Bangladeshis, the other by Myanmar. We can arrange a peaceful migration of Rohinga people with our tribal people (The Chakmas & other tribes, mostly Buddhists), like it happened in 1947 or 1965 in Punjab & Bengal (BUT, must has to be much more peaceful). I don't see BD Govt. or our tribal people accepting that - because, over last 40 years, we have done lot to integrate the tribal people in the system - there are 4 MPs, 2 Ministers & at least 6 Secretary level bureaucrats, several SP or above level Police officers, District judges, Civil Servants, Doctors & Engineers from Chakma, Mog, Murong & other tribes (The President of Ivy Business School, University of Western Ontario is a Bangladeshi Chakma); there is around 3% quota for tribal people in almost every Govt. establishments (that's on top of whoever makes it on merit) .... these people won't go to Myanmar at any cost (neither BD Govt. 'll allow it's skilled people to leave with their assets).

    2nd solution is - a considerate annexation of part of Rakhaine state with Bangladesh - it's around 36,000 Sq KM, with 3.5mn population, roughly half Rohinga, so, may be 18,000sqkm annexation is logical, but UN can intervene in this regard for a justifiable share. However, Rohinga's hardly own any land or asset in Myanmar, therefore, they won't spare a single squire KM in this regard, rather they'll keep doing what they have been doing for ages - ethnic cleansing of Rohinga Muslims.

    I honestly want to do something for these poor people, who are suffering hell in this world (I in fact donate regularly in the Rohinga fund - one such effort arranged by a committee to support these people), but I don't know what's the solution.

    Read more at http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...10JFPFLFsei.99

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    Respect to the Bangladeshi police who have ignored government orders and allowed people to cross the border.

    Buddhist extremists are now beheading children, while the world watches on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    World isn't an ideal place I assume these guys are being persecuted because of religious differences? Shameful really one can only hope god gives sense to people in power to realise humanity trumps all..
    From what I've read it seems like ethnic jealousy that's been built up over generations. Burmese Government don't even use the term Rohingya, they're illegal Bengali migrants from the British era to them.

    However apparently there were Bengali settlements in Rakhine state (called Arakan then) as early as the 15th Century before the colonial era. Their language is Rohingyan hence the name, which is similar to Bengali, and they're mainly Muslims but there is a Hindu minority too. The Bengal Sultanate ruled Arakan for years. Infact there were some Bengali Muslims in the administrations of the Arakanese Buddhist kings after winning independence from the Sultanate.

    There was large scale migration under British rule from British India, especially Bengal, to all over Burma but it was Rakhine that had the largest migrant population where they worked on the fertile land and other jobs. The native Rakhine Buddhists resented this, complaining they were receiving all the economic opportunities. They feared being reduced to a minority in the state.

    During WW2, the British armed the Rohingyas to act as buffers against Japanese invasion, whilst the Rakhine Buddhists were pro-Japanese. During WW2, communal riots erupted between Rohingyas and Rakhines. This caused an exodus of Rohingyas from Rakhine, plus many Indians and their families who came during the colonial era left after Burmese independence from Britain in 1948. Some Rohingyas who fled the violence during WW2 later returned - and THEY were deemed illegals by the Burmese !

    Burma has 135 ethnic groups, the biggest are the Bamar. They share the same religion as the Rakhine but they are DIFFERENT ethnic groups. The Rakhine Buddhists complain they're victims of British colonialism, Rohingya Muslims AND the ethnic Burmese who dominate central Govt. Some have wanted autonomy and independence from Burma.

    The Burmese governments, especially the military who took over in 1962, have used xenophobia and anti-Rohingya card to quell the Rakhine grievances and to pander to extreme Buddhist nationalist constituency.

    Hope that explains it. Another sad story of divide and rule politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Respect to the Bangladeshi police who have ignored government orders and allowed people to cross the border.

    Buddhist extremists are now beheading children, while the world watches on.
    There are several NGOs working to save the Rohingas. Lots of Zakat money is given to these organizations to serve these hapless people. Even at Toronto, we collected a handsome amount & sent to Cox's Bazar to buy eid gifts (sadly just food & medicine) for Rohingas.

    BD people, Govt. & Army are all supportive to these people. Myanmar can't get away with this ethnic cleansing & accommodating Rohinga isn't the solution - unless we start to protect the National boundary, it'll become a common practice for the Myanmar security force - First Muslims, then Hindus & later few Christians that live around BD & Indian border. BD People, Govt. & Army stand on this is that, we'll keep raising voice so that Global community is forced to cast their eyes on Rohinga issues, but we'll keep supporting these people to survive silently. BD-Myanmar border is just about few hundred KMs, most part is deep forest, extremely difficult terrain to trans-pass, it's entirely protected now with advanced human surveillance RADAR system, while now couple of submarines support the Coast Guard along Myanmar coast line - if BD forces wished, not even a single rat could cross BD border from other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    There are several NGOs working to save the Rohingas. Lots of Zakat money is given to these organizations to serve these hapless people. Even at Toronto, we collected a handsome amount & sent to Cox's Bazar to buy eid gifts (sadly just food & medicine) for Rohingas.

    BD people, Govt. & Army are all supportive to these people. Myanmar can't get away with this ethnic cleansing & accommodating Rohinga isn't the solution - unless we start to protect the National boundary, it'll become a common practice for the Myanmar security force - First Muslims, then Hindus & later few Christians that live around BD & Indian border. BD People, Govt. & Army stand on this is that, we'll keep raising voice so that Global community is forced to cast their eyes on Rohinga issues, but we'll keep supporting these people to survive silently. BD-Myanmar border is just about few hundred KMs, most part is deep forest, extremely difficult terrain to trans-pass, it's entirely protected now with advanced human surveillance RADAR system, while now couple of submarines support the Coast Guard along Myanmar coast line - if BD forces wished, not even a single rat could cross BD border from other side.
    Great to read. It's a shame Bangladesh gets a tough time when it has been doing much for these people.

    Do you know if the Bangladeshi government is putting pressure on the Myanmar government to put a stop to the violence?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    From what I've read it seems like ethnic jealousy that's been built up over generations. Burmese Government don't even use the term Rohingya, they're illegal Bengali migrants from the British era to them.

    However apparently there were Bengali settlements in Rakhine state (called Arakan then) as early as the 15th Century before the colonial era. Their language is Rohingyan hence the name, which is similar to Bengali, and they're mainly Muslims but there is a Hindu minority too. The Bengal Sultanate ruled Arakan for years. Infact there were some Bengali Muslims in the administrations of the Arakanese Buddhist kings after winning independence from the Sultanate.

    There was large scale migration under British rule from British India, especially Bengal, to all over Burma but it was Rakhine that had the largest migrant population where they worked on the fertile land and other jobs. The native Rakhine Buddhists resented this, complaining they were receiving all the economic opportunities. They feared being reduced to a minority in the state.

    During WW2, the British armed the Rohingyas to act as buffers against Japanese invasion, whilst the Rakhine Buddhists were pro-Japanese. During WW2, communal riots erupted between Rohingyas and Rakhines. This caused an exodus of Rohingyas from Rakhine, plus many Indians and their families who came during the colonial era left after Burmese independence from Britain in 1948. Some Rohingyas who fled the violence during WW2 later returned - and THEY were deemed illegals by the Burmese !

    Burma has 135 ethnic groups, the biggest are the Bamar. They share the same religion as the Rakhine but they are DIFFERENT ethnic groups. The Rakhine Buddhists complain they're victims of British colonialism, Rohingya Muslims AND the ethnic Burmese who dominate central Govt. Some have wanted autonomy and independence from Burma.

    The Burmese governments, especially the military who took over in 1962, have used xenophobia and anti-Rohingya card to quell the Rakhine grievances and to pander to extreme Buddhist nationalist constituency.

    Hope that explains it. Another sad story of divide and rule politics.

    Thanks for the detailed clarification.. It's pretty sad really, sometimes visiting the TP section on PP and reading all the hatred in the world makes you depressed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    From what I've read it seems like ethnic jealousy that's been built up over generations. Burmese Government don't even use the term Rohingya, they're illegal Bengali migrants from the British era to them.

    However apparently there were Bengali settlements in Rakhine state (called Arakan then) as early as the 15th Century before the colonial era. Their language is Rohingyan hence the name, which is similar to Bengali, and they're mainly Muslims but there is a Hindu minority too. The Bengal Sultanate ruled Arakan for years. Infact there were some Bengali Muslims in the administrations of the Arakanese Buddhist kings after winning independence from the Sultanate.

    There was large scale migration under British rule from British India, especially Bengal, to all over Burma but it was Rakhine that had the largest migrant population where they worked on the fertile land and other jobs. The native Rakhine Buddhists resented this, complaining they were receiving all the economic opportunities. They feared being reduced to a minority in the state.

    During WW2, the British armed the Rohingyas to act as buffers against Japanese invasion, whilst the Rakhine Buddhists were pro-Japanese. During WW2, communal riots erupted between Rohingyas and Rakhines. This caused an exodus of Rohingyas from Rakhine, plus many Indians and their families who came during the colonial era left after Burmese independence from Britain in 1948. Some Rohingyas who fled the violence during WW2 later returned - and THEY were deemed illegals by the Burmese !

    Burma has 135 ethnic groups, the biggest are the Bamar. They share the same religion as the Rakhine but they are DIFFERENT ethnic groups. The Rakhine Buddhists complain they're victims of British colonialism, Rohingya Muslims AND the ethnic Burmese who dominate central Govt. Some have wanted autonomy and independence from Burma.

    The Burmese governments, especially the military who took over in 1962, have used xenophobia and anti-Rohingya card to quell the Rakhine grievances and to pander to extreme Buddhist nationalist constituency.

    Hope that explains it. Another sad story of divide and rule politics.
    That explains it, the Empire strikes back! Sadly the British & their evil doctrine will continue to pollute South Asia for centuries, no idea why they're given a free pass by many?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Perhaps in Russia the Muslims have more of a sense of Islamic brotherhood. British Muslims are clearly more secular and we should probably join hands with our Asian brothers to demonstrate on behalf of the Rohingya. But as it's not widely reported or commented on among British Asians, perhaps it's not getting attention through ignorance. Sadly the vast majority of desis don't visit sites like this so will be blissfully unaware.
    So why are British Muslims at the forefront of pointless Save Gaza rallies?

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    If I'm not mistaken Burma has decent relations with China, I guess Pakistan could use a diplomatic approach through China since they also share good relations in regards to putting pressure on Burma.

    Going by the reports there seems to be officially 500k Rohinhya refugees residing in BD, not accounting for the unofficial numbers and they all seem to be living in slums. We are talking about an equally poor country itself with a population density crisis with thousands of more refugees coming in everyday, not to mention in threat of being underwater in a few decades.

    Its easy to criticize they are not taking enough, but where does it stop? We're effectively making it alright for Rohingyas to be continually persecuted by the Burmese because hey, BD will take them in at least (until they reach the tipping point). Maybe its time for the global community to get together and do something about it instead of letting one country take the brunt of the refugee crisis with no solution to look ahead to.

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    I don't think Bangladesh has the will to take in so many people. Unlike Pak who has historical relations with the Afghans the Bangladeshis do not feel that way towards the suffering Rohingya. It is laughable whenever any Muslim plays the "brothers" card. Tell the Syrian, Palestinian Yemeni or Iraqi people that.


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    Rohingyas are essentially Bengalis. Yet gutless and heartless attitudes of Bangladesh is just astounding.... They could atleast lead the diplomatic drive for condemnation of Burma but it seems they have no appetite to do so... shocking!

    Few years ago I saw the interview of Bangladeshi High Commissioner in Uk, I was left speechless by the heartless and dismissive tone with regards to Rohingyas.

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    It's quite clear that Pakistan , as the leading islamic nation in that region , should take the lead on this issue , also given the circumstances in which the country was created.
    Bangladesh has a secular constitution and has no ideological obligations.


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    Definitely even if they let them settle temporarily. Their needs to be a military intervention or at least some consequences for non compliance with UN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomaskutty View Post
    It's quite clear that Pakistan , as the leading islamic nation in that region , should take the lead on this issue , also given the circumstances in which the country was created.
    Bangladesh has a secular constitution and has no ideological obligations.
    Rohingyas are Bengalis. Secular constitution doesn't perclude you from helping others especially if they are ethnically the same as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomaskutty View Post
    It's quite clear that Pakistan , as the leading islamic nation in that region , should take the lead on this issue , also given the circumstances in which the country was created.
    Bangladesh has a secular constitution and has no ideological obligations.
    Secular doesn't mean what you think it means. Hint: The whole human rights thing. But if this is what secularism represents I hope it gets replaced soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Rohingyas are Bengalis. Secular constitution doesn't perclude you from helping others especially if they are ethnically the same as you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saeed View Post
    Secular doesn't mean what you think it means. Hint: The whole human rights thing. But if this is what secularism represents I hope it gets replaced soon.

    The OP clearly mentions helping the rohingyas as a collective religious obligation. Please read the title.


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    That Bengali concept is just a goal post shift - it started with Muslims, but that actually pulls other Muslim countries as well in the mix including Pakistan, hence this distraction.

    Absolute rubbish idea - there is nothing call Bengali nationalism. There are over 300mn Bengali speaking people in world divided in several states, predominantly in Bangladesh & Indian sate of West Bengal. But, Bengali speaking population has spread out all over the world, and we do share lots of commonalities apart from language - rituals, festivals - that doesn't mean we belong to some same state. Common language or ethnicity is totally different from the National boundary.

    Bangladesh as a state is a multicultural & multi racial constitution, which identifies every religion, every sect & every race equally. But, obviously, being almost 90% Muslim majority country, it's much closer to Islamic States & Islamic rituals - at the same time, it's the only Muslim dominant state in world without a common boundary with another Muslim dominant country. We follow the Islamic rituals as part of the religion, but the society celebrates the Bengali culture. Our national identity isn't Bangali/Bengali, never was - it's Bangladeshi and the constitution identifies the non Muslims, the non Bengali speaking Beharis & Traibal people equally with the same like me as a native Bangladeshi & till previous 8th generation as Muslim (but, my Grandfather's title/surname suggests, sometimes probably even before Nawab Siraj's reign, my ancestors were Hindu).

    The idea of integrating Rohingas as ethnically Bengali isn't logical - in that regard over 1 million Beharis living in Bangladesh as Bangladeshi should have to leave for India or Pakistan & over 3.5mn tribal Buddhists should move to Myanmar or Srilanka. That concept of Nationality based on religion or ethnicity is a failed concept - who knows that better than us in South Asia?

    World has to come out of this concept - Rohingas are Burmese, because they are born & brought up there. A country is formed by the people living there, bounded by the nationalist feelings & governed by the constitution of the country. People migrates from country to country, but once a Country is formed, in Burma's case 4th January, 1948; people living there for generations are it's citizen - just like Urdu speaking Beharis of Bangladesh are Bangladeshi. It's an alarming thought process to identify Nationality based on Religion or Ethnicity - it divides the people. I can give a classic example - Pakistan; 99% Muslim dominant country, but posters here probably can tell better how it's uniting the nation; for me, an outsider, I was astonished with some the posts in Karachi Population thread.

    The solution of Rohinga people is a quick fix - but for intervention of one Nation. Just like Donald Trump can bark all day long, but as long as China is there, he won't do anything to Kim Jong-un; same for Rohinga issue. As long as China is backing Myanmar - Bangladesh, India, Saudi Arab or even USA won't make any noise on this issue. Otherwise, supporting 1.8/1.9 mn population isn't a big deal & Myanmar itself can be forced to measure their acts, by it's neighboring countries only; no UN required.

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    My bigger concern is that the intent to help fellow Muslims is not being demonstrated by the Govt of Bangladesh which ultimately represents people of that country.

    The actual logistics can be discussed but the niyat is important and we arent seeing that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeed View Post

    JazakALLAH Khair to this gentleman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    My bigger concern is that the intent to help fellow Muslims is not being demonstrated by the Govt of Bangladesh which ultimately represents people of that country.

    The actual logistics can be discussed but the niyat is important and we arent seeing that.
    It is not about they are muslims and muslim countries shud help them.... even if a JEW faces such atrocities... i will be willing to help him bcz my religion teaches me that... ... It is abt humanity, and that rarely exists in today's world. When Non muslim countries can accept these refugees why can't muslim countries accept them...
    our state JAMMU AND KASHMIR has 4 lakh Rohingya refugees... 90% have no problem with them and many people have lend a helping hand to them irrespective of what their religion is.. but the fact is recently there shelters were burned by some ****** right wing communals and The Homeless were Homeless again
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    Guys dont get personal with each other.

    I am allowing above posts as they raise points but cut out the "you are this or that" nonsense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Rohingyas are essentially Bengalis. Yet gutless and heartless attitudes of Bangladesh is just astounding.... They could atleast lead the diplomatic drive for condemnation of Burma but it seems they have no appetite to do so... shocking!

    Few years ago I saw the interview of Bangladeshi High Commissioner in Uk, I was left speechless by the heartless and dismissive tone with regards to Rohingyas.
    Are there any economic benefits to be had in helping these Rohingyas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    So why are British Muslims at the forefront of pointless Save Gaza rallies?
    I assume because of the destruction of Gaza and displacement of the people there. I don't really follow these rallies so no idea what is on the agenda for these groups that hold demonstrations against this or that govt. The Rohingya tragedy is virtually unheard of in the UK, there's a lack of interest in the story in print or on TV. Similar to Kashmir as I already said in an earlier post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    From what I've read it seems like ethnic jealousy that's been built up over generations. Burmese Government don't even use the term Rohingya, they're illegal Bengali migrants from the British era to them.

    However apparently there were Bengali settlements in Rakhine state (called Arakan then) as early as the 15th Century before the colonial era. Their language is Rohingyan hence the name, which is similar to Bengali, and they're mainly Muslims but there is a Hindu minority too. The Bengal Sultanate ruled Arakan for years. Infact there were some Bengali Muslims in the administrations of the Arakanese Buddhist kings after winning independence from the Sultanate.

    There was large scale migration under British rule from British India, especially Bengal, to all over Burma but it was Rakhine that had the largest migrant population where they worked on the fertile land and other jobs. The native Rakhine Buddhists resented this, complaining they were receiving all the economic opportunities. They feared being reduced to a minority in the state.

    During WW2, the British armed the Rohingyas to act as buffers against Japanese invasion, whilst the Rakhine Buddhists were pro-Japanese. During WW2, communal riots erupted between Rohingyas and Rakhines. This caused an exodus of Rohingyas from Rakhine, plus many Indians and their families who came during the colonial era left after Burmese independence from Britain in 1948. Some Rohingyas who fled the violence during WW2 later returned - and THEY were deemed illegals by the Burmese !

    Burma has 135 ethnic groups, the biggest are the Bamar. They share the same religion as the Rakhine but they are DIFFERENT ethnic groups. The Rakhine Buddhists complain they're victims of British colonialism, Rohingya Muslims AND the ethnic Burmese who dominate central Govt. Some have wanted autonomy and independence from Burma.

    The Burmese governments, especially the military who took over in 1962, have used xenophobia and anti-Rohingya card to quell the Rakhine grievances and to pander to extreme Buddhist nationalist constituency.

    Hope that explains it. Another sad story of divide and rule politics.
    Very enlightening post. Thanks, it hasn't really been covered much so I wasn't sure what the history of these people was.


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    Well done Malala for speaking out:
    Pakistani Nobel Peace Prize laureate Malala Yousafzai has condemned and called for an end to the violence against Myanmar's Rohingya Muslim minority that has forced tens of thousands to flee and left nearly 400 people dead in clashes.

    Malala said she is "still waiting" for her fellow Nobel Peace laureate and pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi to denounce the "shameful treatment" of the Rohingya.

    "The world is waiting and the Rohingya Muslims are waiting [for Suu Kyi to condemn the violence]," the girls' education advocate wrote in a Twitter post.

    "If their [Rohingya's] home is not Myanmar, where they have lived for generations, then where is it?" she questioned, stressing that members of the minority should be given citizenship in Myanmar.

    Malala also urged other countries, including Pakistan, to follow in Bangladesh's footsteps and give shelter to the Rohingya fleeing violence.
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1355586/st...ya-says-malala

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Are there any economic benefits to be had in helping these Rohingyas?
    Must everything be viewed through the prism of economic benefit? How about preserving life and dignity of human beings as a good enough reason?

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