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  1. #161
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    Bhubaneswar batting is saving India lot more than jadhav batting

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    Surendra says : "After 200 games, Kohli has 8888 runs at an average of 55.55"
    from cricbuzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    You were still the runners up of the CT so maybe that no.1 ranking has merit
    Not going by that. Because i think we were lucky not face one of OZ/NZ/ENG and were beaten by a rejuvenated Pakistan. And it's not just that. The team is simply lacking quality in batting.


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    Pakistan would beat India right now in a 5 match odi series

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    .slow Dhoni, inconsistent jadhav, KARTHIK weak middle order
    I think Rahul should replace one of the openers too and our catching is frankly really bad these days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Pakistan would beat India right now in a 5 match odi series
    Certainly so with the team we are currently playing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Pakistan would beat India right now in a 5 match odi series
    No way.Your batting is much weaker and filled with tuk-tuks.

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    Finally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Not going by that. Because i think we were lucky not face one of OZ/NZ/ENG and were beaten by a rejuvenated Pakistan. And it's not just that. The team is simply lacking quality in batting.
    Dhawan can still smash a few at the top and is class in ICC tournaments, Kohli is generally comes to the party and down the order there's Pandya. Jadhav seems like a decent talent as well, they all just need support and a long rope because consistency will come with more experience as well. The batting is not as strong as past teams because this is a new gen but overall the ODI team is in good health because there are guys who can bat, bowl and field


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Pakistan would beat India right now in a 5 match odi series
    Pak can beat India 3-2 if they play a 5 match series right now.

    Our batting is pretty weak after the top 3. Way too many passengers in the team.

    Dhoni, jadhav will never make it to my team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Pakistan would beat India right now in a 5 match odi series
    5 match series would be pretty boring
    make it 11 match series
    India will win by 11-0 margin
    you know what I meant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Lol what a rubbish team this is. Honestly, us being the No.1 ODI team is a bit of a joke.
    ITs like we fix one aspect, but the other breaks down.

    Our bowling is finally looking formidable and we seem to have 1 decent AR, but now our batting looks weak.

    Only Kohli and to an extent the openers look solid. Dhoni, Jhadhav and KArthik are just And its not like we have an empty bench strength. There are at least 2-3 decent MO batsmen who should be given a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by another drop catch View Post
    5 match series would be pretty boring
    make it 11 match series
    India will win by 11-0 margin
    you know what I meant
    make it 100-0 india will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    ITs like we fix one aspect, but the other breaks down.

    Our bowling is finally looking formidable and we seem to have 1 decent AR, but now our batting looks weak.
    uy to me is average
    Only Kohli and to an extent the openers look solid. Dhoni, Jhadhav and KArthik are just And its not like we have an empty bench strength. There are at least 2-3 decent MO batsmen who should be given a chance.
    ur bowling still need a lot of work..this bunehwar guy is average,inida need another good left arm pacer to support bumra.

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    Kuldeep is still posing problems. Now he got the prize wicket. He bowled way too slow. He reached for it without any confidence.

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    That looked awfully close. But good decision not to go for review.

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    K Williamson vs India in ODIs:
    Home - 71, 77, 65, 60 & 88 (361 runs @72.20)
    Away - 0, 13, 25, 29, 21, 3, 118, 22, 41, 27 & 6 (305 runs @27.72)
    weakest of fab 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Pak can beat India 3-2 if they play a 5 match series right now.

    Our batting is pretty weak after the top 3. Way too many passengers in the team.

    Dhoni, jadhav will never make it to my team.
    Who would replace Dhoni in your team? Don't say Pant who couldn't even score against NZ A Team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    ITs like we fix one aspect, but the other breaks down.

    Our bowling is finally looking formidable and we seem to have 1 decent AR, but now our batting looks weak.

    Only Kohli and to an extent the openers look solid. Dhoni, Jhadhav and KArthik are just And its not like we have an empty bench strength. There are at least 2-3 decent MO batsmen who should be given a chance.
    Replace Dhoni, jadhav with karthik and Rahul. Problem solved.

    If Pant improves, he can replace karthik.

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    These kiwi players can't play spin to save their lives and LOL at the car driving in-between two lanes
    Last edited by UN talkz; 22nd October 2017 at 15:09.


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    ur bowling still need a lot of work..this bunehwar guy is average,inida need another good left arm pacer to support bumra.
    It might not be a great bowling line up, but it is good enough to win a significant number of games. If our batting can get improve by bringing in the players lie Pant and Shreyas, we will become a formidable team.

    In fact, as a 5 man bowling line-up, it would be up there with the top line ups, pretty close to Pakistan, Australia and SA due to the variety we posses with our spinners. As for Bhuvi, he is doing his job. He is not a second coming of Akram, but makes the Indian attack an overall very strong unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Replace Dhoni, jadhav with karthik and Rahul. Problem solved.

    If Pant improves, he can replace karthik.
    Lets try with giving Pandey and Rahul a long run to start with in place of Jhadhav and Karthik

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    Dropping dhoni ,lol.You think you can win a wc with youngsta beauties alone?You need experience down the order in pressure matches.But kedar yadav needs to go.
    I will judge kuldeep and chahal based on their odi performances overseas,but looks very promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    It might not be a great bowling line up, but it is good enough to win a significant number of games. If our batting can get improve by bringing in the players lie Pant and Shreyas, we will become a formidable team.

    In fact, as a 5 man bowling line-up, it would be up there with the top line ups, pretty close to Pakistan, Australia and SA due to the variety we posses with our spinners. As for Bhuvi, he is doing his job. He is not a second coming of Akram, but makes the Indian attack an overall very strong unit.
    agreed but a top team should go from strenght to strength. and for that more variety is needed .like a left arm pacer with bumrah,this will be perfect and good bench strenghth in term of pace battery.dhoni.karthik and rehane should be dropped if india want to go to 2019 wc with a strong team..another left arm pacer and this bowling line up is one of the best in the world.impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austerlitz View Post
    Dropping dhoni ,lol.You think you can win a wc with youngsta beauties alone?You need experience down the order in pressure matches.But kedar yadav needs to go.
    I will judge kuldeep and chahal based on their odi performances overseas,but looks very promising.
    You are not going to win we when your no. 5 comes in and scores a 30 at 50 s/r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    You are not going to win we when your no. 5 comes in and scores a 30 at 50 s/r.
    Thats not going to happen every match.Without dhoni we have no experienced finisher.Too much pressure on Kohli.

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    Karthik is a fantastic fielder. Being a keeper helps.

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    india on the top.smelling a collapse and kiwis will be bundled under 200.

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    karthik takes a blinder to remove dangerous guptill

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    Quote Originally Posted by austerlitz View Post
    Thats not going to happen every match.Without dhoni we have no experienced finisher.Too much pressure on Kohli.
    Dhoni is an exceptional finisher? Is this 2011 or 2017?

    Dhoni has not finished anything in a long life no time. Even if he is there, he relies on other lower order and tailenders to score.

    Dhoni is a no.8 kind of batsman now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    You are not going to win we when your no. 5 comes in and scores a 30 at 50 s/r.
    who do you think would be able to replace Dhoni as a WK and score more than 50 S/R on this Pitch where even Kohli struggled initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    who do you think would be able to replace Dhoni as a WK and score more than 50 S/R on this Pitch where even Kohli struggled initially.
    Not just this pitch. Dhoni struggles every where irrespective of the pitch conditions.

    I would try out a Samson or Karthik and give them a long run of about 10 od's to see how they perform. They cannot be worse than Dhoni.

    If any, if someone like a Samson or Pant click, we will find a keeper for a decade to come.

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    Kiwis do not have much depth in there batting line up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Not just this pitch. Dhoni struggles every where irrespective of the pitch conditions.

    I would try out a Samson or Karthik and give them a long run of about 10 od's to see how they perform. They cannot be worse than Dhoni.

    If any, if someone like a Samson or Pant click, we will find a keeper for a decade to come.
    Dhoni is likely to be retained till next WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Not just this pitch. Dhoni struggles every where irrespective of the pitch conditions.

    I would try out a Samson or Karthik and give them a long run of about 10 od's to see how they perform. They cannot be worse than Dhoni.

    If any, if someone like a Samson or Pant click, we will find a keeper for a decade to come.
    He is playing from memory these days. Not a reliable player anymore. Probably on his last legs with flashes of brilliance while chasing smaller totals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Not just this pitch. Dhoni struggles every where irrespective of the pitch conditions.

    I would try out a Samson or Karthik and give them a long run of about 10 od's to see how they perform. They cannot be worse than Dhoni.

    If any, if someone like a Samson or Pant click, we will find a keeper for a decade to come.
    Dhoni saved our backside against SL in the recent ODIs and showed what a seasoned pro can do in a tough chase. Samson can't even score in Domestics and Pant bats like a deer in front of headlights against A team lallus. And their keeping is nowhere near Dhoni. Sure, they gonna do better than Dhoni. The only guy i can think of is Kartik but he also needs to do lot to prove that he is worthy.

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    Latham is a class batsman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Latham is a class batsman.
    only when he is in good form

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Karthik is a fantastic fielder. Being a keeper helps.
    Not always though

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    These two are fighting out well. Though I am still sensing a collapse.

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    If NZ play out the spinners then they will win.

    The ball is turning but they played them well so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Dhoni saved our backside against SL in the recent ODIs and showed what a seasoned pro can do in a tough chase. Samson can't even score in Domestics and Pant bats like a deer in front of headlights against A team lallus. And their keeping is nowhere near Dhoni. Sure, they gonna do better than Dhoni. The only guy i can think of is Kartik but he also needs to do lot to prove that he is worthy.
    Which match was it? When did he save us?

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    kedar jadhav should bowl

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    The way NZ are batting, it shows India are short by about 30 runs. This is such a small ground. A push can get you a boundary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    These kiwi players can't play spin to save their lives and LOL at the car driving in-between two lanes
    Bit too early.

    They've clearly planned for it. But even otherwise even when wickets were falling, they were scoring quickly enough at the start of the partnership.

    They hve decided to avoid the Aussie error of just blocking till the run rate pressure goes up or they get out, and then next guy decides to block more because situation is bad etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    The way NZ are batting, it shows India are short by about 30 runs. This is such a small ground. A push can get you a boundary.
    Even if it gets close at the end, the tailenders slogging will be effective on the small ground. If there's dew even for last 10 overs it can be bad for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Which match was it? When did he save us?
    The Second ODi to be specific when Dhananjaya ran through our top order.

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    Well played Latham!


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    Is Ryder completely finished or?


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    NZ better not mess it up from here.

    They just need to carry on playing like this - rotate strike with the odd boundary.

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    Nz need to pick up the pace a bit.

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    Looks like victory is near for NZ. Just need to keep their heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    Even if it gets close at the end, the tailenders slogging will be effective on the small ground. If there's dew even for last 10 overs it can be bad for us.
    So why is this a small ground? They could easily have pushed the boundary some metres back. This is not T20 so should have bigger boundaries.

    Rohit Sharma would have been out twice against Southee if they had boundaries pulled back two metres.


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    looks like kohlis century in vain


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    The Second ODi to be specific when Dhananjaya ran through our top order.
    Right, the one where BK of all the people dominated the partnership and outsocred Dhoni on his way to 50.

    Thanks for the laughs. Dhoni concentrated on being not out while letting BK dominate the bowlers

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    Dhoni' pathetic innngs coming back to bite us in the back.

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    india is payimg the price of playing dhoni and karthik.

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    Tom Latham looks a completely different batsman now from what we saw in the past. Very much impressed. His game against spin looked flawless and in complete control of his shots.
    Last edited by ask_analyse_act; 22nd October 2017 at 16:18.

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    This same NZ we thrash every time. India have been poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Dhoni' pathetic innngs coming back to bite us in the back.
    That aside 280 should have been defended since the ball is spinning.

    Kudos to NZ though for playing them better than most had expected.

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    As I have said many times, India lack strike pace bowlers with new ball and in middle overs..
    Also Kohli just goes with pre match plan.. If things doesnt go according to plan, he is sort of clueless.

    One of Bhuveshnar or Bumrah has to make way for a strike pace bowler...


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    Where is Jhadhav? The golden arm thrower

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    india is payimg the price of playing dhoni and karthik.
    60 runs short of a par score thanks to the duo

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    Latham has played the spinners extremely well.


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    Latham you beauty, what a shot!


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    Indian and NZ commentators were saying this was a good score half way stage but now people saying 60 runs short.

    There is no dew either so good score it was but spinners haven't bowled well enough on a wicket assisting them.

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    Latham reminds me of Gooch days. Entire chase was done with sweep shots with remarkable accuracy. Rock solid batting by Taylor/Latham. This is an absolutely terrific batting surface under lights. 280 is such a sorry *** total on any of the Mumbai ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Indian and NZ commentators were saying this was a good score half way stage but now people saying 60 runs short.

    There is no dew either so good score it was but spinners haven't bowled well enough on a wicket assisting them.
    Mumbai even Bangladesh can chase. Good batting surface. They kind banked on NZ collapsing against spin without putting up a fight. But Latham is a fine player of spin atleast on a decent batting wicket.

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    Kuldeep needs to pitch it up


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Indian and NZ commentators were saying this was a good score half way stage but now people saying 60 runs short.

    There is no dew either so good score it was but spinners haven't bowled well enough on a wicket assisting them.
    It was a good score, Kiwis bowled well and remember Kohli was dropped on 29, en easy catch, and went on to make a ton.

    Latham and Tayloe has batted extremely well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    It was a good score, Kiwis bowled well and remember Kohli was dropped on 29, en easy catch, and went on to make a ton.

    Latham and Tayloe has batted extremely well.
    Exactly it was a good score plus the ball spinning for Indian spinners.

    Fact is NZ have betted very well and spinners haven't taken the wickets they should have.

    Can't blame Dhoni for this defeat.

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    Latham/Taylor played risk free cricket. They didn't have to play chancy cricket. Just sensible batting. Placing the ball in gaps rotating the strike. India will hope to chase in the remaining matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    So why is this a small ground? They could easily have pushed the boundary some metres back. This is not T20 so should have bigger boundaries.

    Rohit Sharma would have been out twice against Southee if they had boundaries pulled back two metres.
    They actually have steel fencing behind which spectators are sitting. There actually is not enough room to push boundaries back even if they wanted to.

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    Beauty Latham!


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    Congrats NZ. Well deserved win. Wake up call for India. They have to find a way to negotiate the left handers. He effectively nullified both the wrist spinners.

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    Who are saying 60 runs short now. Actually many didn’t expect NZL to compete and chase any total that was set giving their past history on playing spin. They didn’t expect NZL to get out of the spin web from kuldeep and chahal. And now shocked at what they see an exhibition of batting against spin from foreign batsmen especially Latham. What a master stroke to have him in the middle order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    Exactly it was a good score plus the ball spinning for Indian spinners.

    Fact is NZ have batted very well and spinners haven't taken the wickets they should have.

    Can't blame Dhoni for this defeat.
    There has been Dew not as much as was feared, I am sure Kohli opted to bat first as an experiment ,however Kiwis have batted beautifully and 340 is a par score here in Wankhede, Dhoni and Kartik will produce more such losses, just wait n watch. But for Bhivi, we would have been 80 short. The only way Dhoni can be dropped is if we lose 7-10 on the trot. Have been a great servant for Indian cricket but enough is enough

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    31 from 31 easy win for NZ, barring the mother of all chokes.

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    Latham is a fantastic find for them. Scored a 100 in the tour game, Now another 50 here handling spinners with ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lehen View Post
    There has been Dew not as much as was feared, I am sure Kohli opted to bat first as an experiment ,however Kiwis have batted beautifully and 340 is a par score here in Wankhede, Dhoni and Kartik will produce more such losses, just wait n watch. But for Bhivi, we would have been 80 short. The only way Dhoni can be dropped is if we lose 7-10 on the trot. Have been a great servant for Indian cricket but enough is enough
    Yup Wankeded is a belter of a wicket. Still remember Raina's 25 ball 87 runs here in the IPL semi. Cannot believe Dhoni had a strike rate of 59 on this ground.

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