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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    That aside 280 should have been defended since the ball is spinning.

    Kudos to NZ though for playing them better than most had expected.
    Slow spin. You can call easily rock back and play.

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    Chahal is overrated.

    Bring Jadeja back

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    Lost for words.

    Bowling is toothless, and the less said about the batting, the better.

    Top 3 is fine.

    Then comes

    4.Karthik(Buddha trying for a comeback)

    5.Dhoni(His career is over, should have acted in DHONI film, rather than wasting a spot)

    6.Jadhav (AKMAL of India)



    We can easily change from no. 4-6,but our selectors, doing a worse job.

    4.Rahul
    5.Pandey
    6.Pant+

    It's already costed us the CT. We might even end up missing on the WC.

    Four years, since we won a cup.

    Pakistan has become India, bravely handing out caps to youngsters: Hassan, Shadab, Rymman, Fakhar, Imam, Ashraf, Khan(that left arm seamer who debuted last match) and building bench strength.

    We are still stuck with Karthik, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadhav, who knows even Raina and Yuvi might make a comeback. At least satisfied that AshWIN(Loses many games than WINning) is dropped
    Last edited by Kohli, The King of Chase; 22nd October 2017 at 16:46.

  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLORY OF '92 View Post
    Chahal is overrated.

    Bring Jadeja back
    Actually he bowled well for the first 8 overs. Batsmen had few close shaves. They won't toss him out after one match.

  5. #245
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    Latham teaching Kohli how to chase away from home.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Who are saying 60 runs short now. Actually many didn’t expect NZL to compete and chase any total that was set giving their past history on playing spin. They didn’t expect NZL to get out of the spin web from kuldeep and chahal. And now shocked at what they see an exhibition of batting against spin from foreign batsmen especially Latham. What a master stroke to have him in the middle order.
    Almost every one in India switched off the TV after scoring 280 with late flourish in Wankhede,always a worrying sign. Even I watched only 3-5 overs max. only a dismal batting team will lose chasing 280 here. Turn is there but it is slow turn which ensures risk free runs, anyways our batting has been disastrous last 2 years and we should have lost 2 Odis against Aus but for the brilliant bowling.Time to rethink and drop Dhoni etc for good.

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    Will Taylor go for his 100 and spoil Latham?

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    A race to centuries here..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Latham teaching Kohli how to chase away from home.
    Kohli the chaser was finished in 2015 itself,time to move on

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    Bumrah bowling too many length balls.

    What happened to his yorkers ?

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    Too early to call. But Latham will have a fantastic career like Williamson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lehen View Post
    Kohli the chaser was finished in 2015 itself,time to move on
    Wait till he plays Sri Lanka on 50m grounds. He will chase 450.


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    I hope both get their hundred - that would be icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Wait till he plays Sri Lanka on 50m grounds. He will chase 450.


    Good one.

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    This is one of those ground where you can chase 240 in 20 overs lol. 280 in 50 overs is pathetic score.

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    What a knock! Well done Latham!


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    LMAO Indian trundlers exposed

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    Congrats 4th one day 100. He will win man of the match. Latham. Much better than his dad.

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    Dot ball coming up now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Dot ball coming up now?
    Yeah!


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    Come on Taylor, a six please, get your ton and finish the game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    LMAO Indian trundlers exposed
    They have bowled very well recently. Though I agree. Your bowlers would not have lost after this score. But there is a lot of room in between being as good as Pakistan and being trundlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohli, The King of Chase View Post
    Lost for words.

    Bowling is toothless, and the less said about the batting, the better.

    Top 3 is fine.

    Then comes

    4.Karthik(Buddha trying for a comeback)

    5.Dhoni(His career is over, should have acted in DHONI film, rather than wasting a spot)

    6.Jadhav (AKMAL of India)



    We can easily change from no. 4-6,but our selectors, doing a worse job.

    4.Rahul
    5.Pandey
    6.Pant+

    It's already costed us the CT. We might even end up missing on the WC.

    Four years, since we won a cup.

    Pakistan has become India, bravely handing out caps to youngsters: Hassan, Shadab, Rymman, Fakhar, Imam, Ashraf, Khan(that left arm seamer who debuted last match) and building bench strength.

    We are still stuck with Karthik, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadhav, who knows even Raina and Yuvi might make a comeback. At least satisfied that AshWIN(Loses many games than WINning) is dropped
    Some valid points made..

    Aussies struggled due to their inability to play spin and as India was winning, that actually did hide the weakness of the Indian middle order.

    One thing that could have made a difference here is reverse swing, Bhuvi and Bumrah are both reasonably ok at death overs but are not that good at reversing the ball. Atleast one of Yadav or Shami should play the next match, I would prefer Shami so that he can provide the breakthroughs in the middle overs with reverse swing.

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    Taylor stupid lol why did he run.

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    Come on Taylor - now or never to get the ton.

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    The situation reminds me of this brain-teaser


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohli, The King of Chase View Post
    Lost for words.

    Bowling is toothless, and the less said about the batting, the better.

    Top 3 is fine.

    Then comes

    4.Karthik(Buddha trying for a comeback)

    5.Dhoni(His career is over, should have acted in DHONI film, rather than wasting a spot)

    6.Jadhav (AKMAL of India)



    We can easily change from no. 4-6,but our selectors, doing a worse job.

    4.Rahul
    5.Pandey
    6.Pant+

    It's already costed us the CT. We might even end up missing on the WC.

    Four years, since we won a cup.

    Pakistan has become India, bravely handing out caps to youngsters: Hassan, Shadab, Rymman, Fakhar, Imam, Ashraf, Khan(that left arm seamer who debuted last match) and building bench strength.

    We are still stuck with Karthik, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadhav, who knows even Raina and Yuvi might make a comeback. At least satisfied that AshWIN(Loses many games than WINning) is dropped
    Bowling is fine, anything less than 330 odd is never defendable under lights in Wankhede.
    Batting is at par with Sri Lanka IMO

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    Now he has to hit six or else gone.

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    He can take 2 and a four

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    That's a no ball.

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    Taylor just messed up the chance of getting his 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Taylor just messed up the chance of getting his 100.
    He can still get it


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    Taylor just slog it.

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    Bhuvi and Bumrah both need to learn taking wickets in the middle overs. Against teams which play spinners not as bad as Australia should be targeted with pacers who can revwrse the ball in the middle overs.

    India just had one plan and that was to choke the batsmen with spin, there should have been a plan B which could have been possible with ideally Shami or even with Yadav. I have never seen Bhivi making any impact in the middle overs. One of the reasons of his high bowling average is that he is mostly effective with the new ball with few exceptions like one in every 10 matches where he creates impact in the middle to death overs.

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    Taylor out.

    Kumar gets a cheap wicket.

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    What an anti climax Nice innings. One of my favorite player Taylor. They should get this over with.

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    only 1 maiden(Boult) in 99 overs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Bhuvi and Bumrah both need to learn taking wickets in the middle overs. Against teams which play spinners not as bad as Australia should be targeted with pacers who can revwrse the ball in the middle overs.

    India just had one plan and that was to choke the batsmen with spin, there should have been a plan B which could have been possible with ideally Shami or even with Yadav. I have never seen Bhivi making any impact in the middle overs. One of the reasons of his high bowling average is that he is mostly effective with the new ball with few exceptions like one in every 10 matches where he creates impact in the middle to death overs.
    Arey dear, no team can defend less than 330 here in Wankhede under lights except for garbage batting. Use some logic. COme and visit the pitch once.
    Kohli took a great decision to test his batsmen by chosing the bat first.It is what can be called abold experiment.However the batting was so poor,there was no coming back.The pitch was so slow that one could hit the ball on second attempt after missing the turn. This forum should have users having enough cricketing logic and knowledge to assess defeats/wins... Kohli's batsmen let him down again. His own inning was one of his worst ever

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    Good game to lose for India

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    India should have chosen to chase. Anyway they need some competition at home. They keep winning everything.

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    Only good thing in this match from Indian POV is he experimented batting first and batting got exposed 250-260 are regularly chased here and the wicket was again a belter here and Kiwis could easily chase 280 odd which is highest chasing second here in the ground, Latham looks a serious talent

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    Well deserved loss.

    What else do you expect when carrying 3 passengers at 4,5 and 6.

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    What a comprehensive win this for Kiwis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    India should have chosen to chase. Anyway they need some competition at home. They keep winning everything.

    It was an experiment and the right thing to do to test his batters and they failed. ust like World T20 Semis

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    Quote Originally Posted by lehen View Post
    Arey dear, no team can defend less than 330 here in Wankhede under lights except for garbage batting. Use some logic. COme and visit the pitch once.
    Kohli took a great decision to test his batsmen by chosing the bat first.It is what can be called abold experiment.However the batting was so poor,there was no coming back.The pitch was so slow that one could hit the ball on second attempt after missing the turn. This forum should have users having enough cricketing logic and knowledge to assess defeats/wins... Kohli's batsmen let him down again. His own inning was one of his worst ever
    Bhuvi's bowling average manifests that he doesnt take a lot of wickets.

    I am not debating that total was defendable or not, I am just saying that the pacers india have cant take the game away from opposition in the middle overs. If spinners cant take wickets then India is going to struggle in the middle overs and that is what happened today.

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    I hope at least today Boult gets the MoM today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lehen View Post
    It was an experiment and the right thing to do to test his batters and they failed. ust like World T20 Semis
    Then its a pretty poor strategy to do experiments in the start of the three match ODI series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lehen View Post
    It was an experiment and the right thing to do to test his batters and they failed. ust like World T20 Semis
    I know even before the season started Kohli mentioned he didn't mind losing few matches to do experiment.

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    Good India need a wake-up call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I hope at least today Boult gets the MoM today.
    They will probably give it to Latham. Scoring a ton against two good spinners isn’t easy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Then its a pretty poor strategy to do experiments in the start of the three match ODI series.
    He has been clear about experiment with batting order, toss decision, squad selection from the beginning of this season. They managed to get away until now. Finally they have run into a good side. Pretty sure he will field first if he wins the toss again. ONly ** about this experimentation is not resting Dhoni in place of some other keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Bhuvi's bowling average manifests that he doesnt take a lot of wickets.

    I am not debating that total was defendable or not, I am just saying that the pacers india have cant take the game away from opposition in the middle overs. If spinners cant take wickets then India is going to struggle in the middle overs and that is what happened today.
    The world has not seen a pacer who takes wickets regularly in middle overs , not in last 10 years, sample size less than 100 ODIs should not be used as Shami and Yadav have also tasted success in middle overs earlier and it is not something that can be counted as anything less than 100 games is too small a sample size.

    India has lots of batting talent and hence they are expected to bat out the opponents,all consistent great teams in ODIs in last 15 years have BATTED out opponents.

    India is like playing with 3 decent batsmen,so this is bound to happen every now and then,Happened in CT twice ( Sri Lanka and Pak) the against Aus in Bengaluru and also 2 more occasions in the same series and now here.

    Before that too we have lost numerous ODIs because of batting alone since WC 2015.This is not something to be worried about regarding talent pool but nepotism (direct-indirect)which is existing in Indian selection panel which gives us lot of passengers in batting

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    Don't want to take any credit away from NZ. They completely outplayed India. Amazing risk free partnership. Well deserved win.

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    India doesn't have the class of Hasan Ali to take wickets any stage of the match

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    They will probably give it to Latham. Scoring a ton against two good spinners isn’t easy.
    Not at Wankade, under light in late October. Besides, without Boult Kiwis would have been chasing 350 today. Under lights, <300 is never par at either of the 3 Mumbai venues. There are 2 hundreds and a 95 in same match, where after 10-1-35-4, next best figure is 3/73 and those 4 are Sharma, Dhawan, MSD & Pandeya ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadee View Post
    India doesn't have the class of Hasan Ali to take wickets any stage of the match
    This is what has been hurting Pakistan cricket. hyping players after 40-50 Odis only .
    The guy has got success but don't make him like God of Fast bowling, Best medium pacer ever born and things like that, let him play 100 Odis first, will be unfair on the guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Not at Wankade, under light in late October. Besides, without Boult Kiwis would have been chasing 350 today. Under lights, <300 is never par at either of the 3 Mumbai venues. There are 2 hundreds and a 95 in same match, where after 10-1-35-4, next best figure is 3/73 and those 4 are Sharma, Dhawan, MSD & Pandeya ............
    You got your wish


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Good India need a wake-up call.
    Who would you blame, the bowlers or the batsmen? Because I've been noticing question marks in both facets of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    Who would you blame, the bowlers or the batsmen? Because I've been noticing question marks in both facets of the game.
    280 is a good score to defend. So bowlers must take the blame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Not at Wankade, under light in late October. Besides, without Boult Kiwis would have been chasing 350 today. Under lights, <300 is never par at either of the 3 Mumbai venues. There are 2 hundreds and a 95 in same match, where after 10-1-35-4, next best figure is 3/73 and those 4 are Sharma, Dhawan, MSD & Pandeya ............
    Latham got man of the match. Boult player of the match so they have two different awards.


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    India is an overrated ODI team. We will be exposed once we set our foot outside subcontinent. Lol at fans who thought Jadhav is the next big thing.

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    Great game enjoyed it, didn't expect this fluke win from the kiwis though
    Last edited by UN talkz; 22nd October 2017 at 17:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    India is an overrated ODI team. We will be exposed once we set our foot outside subcontinent. Lol at fans who thought Jadhav is the next big thing.
    How? They would have blanked Australia but for some experimentation. Blanked SL in SL. Reached CT final. What about other teams then.All teams lose once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Latham got man of the match. Boult player of the match so they have two different awards.
    What is this? Basically they are accommodating 2 sponsors and none is ready to accept "Best batsman" or "Best bowler" - so this joke. This game is getting rotten every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    How? They would have blanked Australia but for some experimentation. Blanked SL in SL. Reached CT final. What about other teams then.All teams lose once in a while.
    We will see once India tours South Africa. Yet to win an ODI series there let alone test series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    What is this? Basically they are accommodating 2 sponsors and none is ready to accept "Best batsman" or "Best bowler" - so this joke. This game is getting rotten every day.
    Looks like Bollywood Filmfare Awards.

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    Na ishq mein na pyaar mein

    Jo maza India ki haar mein



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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Na ishq mein na pyaar mein

    Jo maza India ki haar mein


    Bhai mat bhool tomorrow u have an ODI against Lanka.

    To be honest we deserved this after selecting buddhas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Indian team depends on Kohli. Hacks like Rohit, Dhawan and Jadhav are not going to win us matches in away conditions. Don't know when will we get rid of Dinesh Karthik.
    Dhawan is good. He's done well almost everywhere and is a great pressure player. Rohit is a hack through and through and India must have a better opening option. Who don't they try Rahul in place of Rohit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Indian team depends on Kohli. Hacks like Rohit, Dhawan and Jadhav are not going to win us matches in away conditions. Don't know when will we get rid of Dinesh Karthik.
    Dhawan has been your best batsman in ICC 50 over tournaments for the last 4 years now since the 2013 CT victory. India's only major issue is the first 10 overs because Rohit plays very sedately or he is vulnerable against quality pacers like as we saw him today against Boult.

    Lokesh Rahul going by his exceptional t20 perfromances brings more firepower, Kohli needs him to replace his friend "no-hit".

    I have no idea who wanted Karthik in the XI, if it is Kohli then he clearly has no vision for developing the team. Manish Pandey is clearly the better batsman out of the 2.

    India has a good hitter in Pandya at the end and I think they should move Dhoni down to 8 for the higher scoring games as he takes time to get going but an asset in setting + chasing low to mid range scores.

    I still think at full strength India has the best batting line up in all formats of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Na ishq mein na pyaar mein

    Jo maza India ki haar mein


    lol don't spread so much hatred
    ,it is scary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion__ View Post
    The situation reminds me of this brain-teaser

    Batsman X hits a 4 so he is on 98* with 3 needed off 2 balls.

    Batsman X hits to the outfield and runs 3 - however he ran the third run short so only 2 runs awarded and the strike changes.

    Batsman X reaches 100* with 2 needed off 1 ball. Batsman Y is on strike.

    Batsman Y hits a 6!!!

    Batsman Y is also on a 100*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Looks like Bollywood Filmfare Awards.
    Can we also hand Kohli The Mizz Participation Trophy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    India is an overrated ODI team. We will be exposed once we set our foot outside subcontinent. Lol at fans who thought Jadhav is the next big thing.
    Nobody in India thinks Jadhav is the next big thing except our very own Selectors and Team management. Even a school kid knows that Jadhav is mediocre at his best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    Nobody in India thinks Jadhav is the next big thing except our very own Selectors and Team management. Even a school kid knows that Jadhav is mediocre at his best.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    India is an overrated ODI team. We will be exposed once we set our foot outside subcontinent. Lol at fans who thought Jadhav is the next big thing.
    LOL
    A player who averages 43 plus with strike rate of 108 is being bashed after one bad game.Some cricket fans are so impatient that if they were selectors then team would have changed upside down in every series.

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    Unfortunately Jadhav's unusual techniques and appearence cause people to think he's mediocre even when's he actually very effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    LOL
    A player who averages 43 plus with strike rate of 108 is being bashed after one bad game.Some cricket fans are so impatient that if they were selectors then team would have changed upside down in every series.
    We have had better and seen better batsman in Indian history than Jadhav hence the disappointment.

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    India has not started tour yet, no 1 in Odi, no 1 in test and what not will be tested in coming months...best team in the world and Asia need to answer some serious question in next 18 months, I hope fans and Indian media are ready for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    We have had better and seen better batsman in Indian history than Jadhav hence the disappointment.
    Now Jadhav should play till South Africa series it's do-or-die for him if he goes out then he can never make a comeback in team
    Also Kohli should give bowling to Jadhav regularly
    He performed well for last 8 years in domestic circuit let him reap what he has sown

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    So many ODI series, they just segway meaninglessly from one to the next.

    Six months from now you'd be struggling to remember the result of this game.

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