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    Kagiso Rabada vs Hasan Ali vs Jasprit Bumrah

    All three are right arm bowlers, and are of similar age(early twenties).

    Rabada averages 26 @ 5.05

    Did well in bilaterals, but flopped big time at the CT.

    Ranked 4.





    Hassan averages 20.2 @ 5.15.

    Did reasonably well in the bilaterals, but CT has been his breakthrough tournament. Unstoppable since then.

    Ranked 1.





    Bumrah averages 20.85 @ 4.81.

    Did well in the bilaterals, and also at the CT(apart from finals).

    Ranked 6.




    In next two years, who will be the leading pacer? Who will set the world on fire?

    Batsmen win you the games, while bowlers win you tournaments.

    Can Rabada win the first title for SA in 2019? (WC 19 is their best bet, after that all seniors would retire)

    Or Would Hassan rewrite the history once again?

    Or will it be Bumrah to revenge the No ball bowled at the CT final?

    Lots of cricket to be played, let's see who overtakes whom.

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    Bumrah snd Bhuvaneshwar will be the new bowling sensations

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    Quote Originally Posted by another drop catch View Post
    Bumrah snd Bhuvaneshwar will be the new bowling sensations
    Bhuvi lol.

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    Hasan>Rabada>Bumrah
    All three of them are very different and useful.With Hasan you get accuracy,pace,varitions and well basically he is a captains go to bowler. Rabada is a serious talent but he is been struggling to find the form and thus not taking wickets.Bumrah is the kind of pacer Ind were looking for a long time,he is fantastic at bowling the Yorkers and deceiving the batsman.He has increased his pace too so he has a bright future for sure.The only thing I would like to see from Bumrah is to take wickets with the new ball.He has the tendency to concede runs in his first spell and then come back stronger at the death and take wickets

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    hasan ali because he is a genuine match winner

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    Rabada will out bowl both of them.

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    In ODIs Ali>KG>JB.

    In tests it's a no contest. KG is the most promising young quick in the world.

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    LOL at anybody who thinks Bumrah is better than Hasan


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    Quote Originally Posted by bujhee kom View Post
    In ODIs Ali>KG>JB.

    In tests it's a no contest. KG is the most promising young quick in the world.
    Mustafiz is better than them all


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    Rabada will outbowl both of them over the career.

    Rabada is a serious talent and best pacer going around after Starc.

    Hasan Ali is an attacking bowler while Bumrah is a defensive bowler. Hasan has priority to take wickets, Bumrah's priority to keep runs down. An attacking wicket taking bowler anyday over a defensive bowler.

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    Tough between Rabada and Hassan, personally i think Rabada will outclass others.

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    Hasan will win Pak a world cup while Kagiso will end up as a statistcally better bowler like Amla is


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    I know Rabadas stats lately have been good but his action is lacking rhythm and his seam position has been inconsistent.

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    Holding v Marshall will be a great battle for years to come given they stay healthy. Marshall needs to start opening though.


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    Kagiso is better in tests whereas hasan is obviously better in odis and no need to mention that ugly action bumrah he is nowhere near near them.

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    The comparison will become more valid if and when Hassan starts bowling with the new ball on a regular basis. In the middle overs he is the best in the world.

    Rabada I think will have the most illustrious career overall i.e in Tests plus ODIs. Hassan has yet to prove himself in Tests whereas Rabada has some amazing performances in the format.

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    Bumrah is a very good ODI bowler but Hassan in his short has been simply phenomenal making any talks of a comparison ridiculous. Hassan has performed overseas against strong oppositions and has been the stand out performer in an ICC tournament. If Hassan's performance ever goes down from the current level the comparison will start to hold more merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    Mustafiz is better than them all
    Your words, not mine.

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    Rabada may performed poorly in CT but he has proved his worth in Test ODI and T20

    Hasaan good in ODI and T20 yet to prove himself in Tests

    Bumrah ( i dont recall if he has made his test debut or kholi will give him a chance) probably best death bowler going around.Hope I m wrong but bowlers with his kind of action are prone to injury and lifespan of a Indian bowler is limited.


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    Is OP Indian by any chance?

    He says Hasan Ali "did reasonably well in the bilaterals" before the CT.

    Here are the facts- top wicket taker in ODIs every time:

    Series v SL: 14 wkts
    ICC CT: 13 wkts
    Series vs WI: 6 wkts
    Series v Aus: 12 wkts
    Series v Eng: 8 wkts

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    ODI: Hasan>Rabada>Bumrah

    Tests: Rabada>Hasan>Bumrah

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    Rabada and Hasan Ali are well ahead of Bumrah. Don't put Bumrah in the same discussion at them.

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    Bumrah is easily inferior to the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    ODI: Hasan>Rabada>Bumrah

    Tests: Rabada>Hasan>Bumrah
    I think everyone can agree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I think everyone can agree with this.
    Sensible fans like you will agree, some people won't though.


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    Lol a true Bumrah. It's gonna be close between Rabada and Hassan in Tests. In ODIs it's Hassan


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    Cummins is thrice the bowler Bumrah is.

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    Anyone who's not Indian will say Hasan and Rabada are both comfortably better than no-ball.


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    Hasan Ali is better than both of them and will end up as the best pacer from Pakistan after Wasim and Waqar

    UNLESS he gets injured etc

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    Hasan Ali at the moment but Rabada has been brilliant for SA.

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    Hasan is a super star.

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    Rabada much better than both.Bumrah is average bowler.Hasan ali a better version of bumrah.

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    Rabada will have a long career like Ntini. I just love the way he bowls. Not sure about the other 2.

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    Lol slipping Bumrah in a comparison between two absolute beast fast bowlers

    Rabada will probably have better test stats while Hassan will take the lead in ODIs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Lol slipping Bumrah in a comparison between two absolute beast fast bowlers

    Rabada will probably have better test stats while Hassan will take the lead in ODIs....
    You mean the bowler who gave 100 runs in 9 overs in a match on a bouncier pitch?

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    @jnaveen1980

    Murali got smashed for 99 in 10 overs, Your point is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    You mean the bowler who gave 100 runs in 9 overs in a match on a bouncier pitch?
    No, what I meant was that both Rabada and Hasan are better than a bloke who lost his marbles at the biggest stage, choked by bowling a decisive no ball and has an action uglier than Paul Adams.....

    You wanna continue playing this game?? (And ohh BTW, Hasan has better stats - if you were just in case wondering )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    No, what I meant was that both Rabada and Hasan are better than a bloke who lost his marbles at the biggest stage, choked by bowling a decisive no ball and has an action uglier than Paul Adams.....

    You wanna continue playing this game?? (And ohh BTW, Hasan has better stats - if you were just in case wondering )
    Sample for all of them is way too small. They all had good streak in their own way. Basically in terms of pure ability variety Rabada looks well above the rest. Shami couple of years back was bowling like a dream with reversing the ball at will. He bowled better than any of these 3. Injuries ruined his career. But in terms of ability, variety Rabada looks well above the two.

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    Some hilarious posts regarding Bumrah by the usual suspects, exhibiting their ignorance and bias as usual.

    Rabada and Bumrah are both elite and at the same level. Hasan is levels below them. Just an okay bowler who had a great purple patch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Lol slipping Bumrah in a comparison between two absolute beast fast bowlers

    Rabada will probably have better test stats while Hassan will take the lead in ODIs....
    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Anyone who's not Indian will say Hasan and Rabada are both comfortably better than no-ball.
    Time for humble pies.

    Rabada>bumrah>hassan.

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    Lol at a few posts above about "beast" Hassan Ali and average Bumrah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Time for humble pies.

    Rabada>bumrah>hassan.
    Bumrah is better than Rabada in ODIs, though Rabada is probably the better test bowler currently.

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    On Current form

    In test Rabada

    In odis Jasprit-Bumrah

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    I will again bump this thread on 23rd October

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    Bumrah has worked hard since then and become much better and respected, hopefully the posters will reconsider their position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Lol slipping Bumrah in a comparison between two absolute beast fast bowlers

    Rabada will probably have better test stats while Hassan will take the lead in ODIs....
    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Anyone who's not Indian will say Hasan and Rabada are both comfortably better than no-ball.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Cummins is thrice the bowler Bumrah is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Bumrah is better than Rabada in ODIs, though Rabada is probably the better test bowler currently.
    Yup, bumrah is the better odi bowler.

    He has the ability to give a good competition to rabada in tests also, lets see how he performs in the subcontinent.

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    Hasan ali from last

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    LOL at anybody who thinks Bumrah is better than Hasan
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I think everyone can agree with this.
    I'd be right in thinking you *still* agree with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Sensible fans like you will agree, some people won't though.
    Only the hyper patriotic bhartiya fans would disagree. Ignore them.

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    What's the point of quoting old posts?

    This thread was started a few months after the CT final and Hasan was doing very well at the time.

    Ask anyone now and they'll agree that Rabada and Bumrah are way ahead at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Anyone who's not Indian will say Hasan and Rabada are both comfortably better than no-ball.
    No need to take Indians seriously, they are too biased and hype mediocre players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    What's the point of quoting old posts?

    This thread was started a few months after the CT final and Hasan was doing very well at the time.

    Ask anyone now and they'll agree that Rabada and Bumrah are way ahead at this point.
    Why not? It was a bit of fun back then, it's still fun now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    What's the point of quoting old posts?

    This thread was started a few months after the CT final and Hasan was doing very well at the time.

    Ask anyone now and they'll agree that Rabada and Bumrah are way ahead at this point.
    it is funny that after couple of bad series Hasan ali still edges bumrah in odis with most wicket overall .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    Why not? It was a bit of fun back then, it's still fun now.
    All three bowlers have a long career ahead of them. They'll have their ups and downs.

    Rabada is just ridiculous, almost 300 international wickets in just around 4 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    it is funny that after couple of bad series Hasan ali still edges bumrah in odis with most wicket overall .
    No, Bumrah has 1 more wicket than Hasan Ali in his ODI career.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    No, Bumrah has 1 more wicket than Hasan Ali in his ODI career.
    yup my bad

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    I just want to see good bowlers, both fast bowlers and spinners, in international cricket. Of course I'd prefer my team to develop the best of such bowlers

    But seriously, I don't mind which nation they come from. All I want to see is good bowlers. After watching the legendary bowlers of the 90's, I was sick to death watching the next generation of fast bowlers that came after them. I'm glad that bowling standards have improved since then.

    I have kept a lot of hope on Hasan Ali after I watched him in the last CT. My eyes lit up watching him in that tournament. All I want is him to keep developing further. I'll never wish for a bowler to go astray just because he belongs to a rival team.


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    Bumrah is the best bowler in world Cricket, Rabada is struggling for rhythm and isn't bowling well. Hasan is decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Yup, bumrah is the better odi bowler.

    He has the ability to give a good competition to rabada in tests also, lets see how he performs in the subcontinent.
    Bumrah is a special bowler. I will admit I may have been wrong on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Bumrah is the best bowler in world Cricket, Rabada is struggling for rhythm and isn't bowling well. Hasan is decent.
    No. Bumrah is not the best. Top ten yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    No. Bumrah is not the best. Top ten yes.
    I'd say probably top 5 at the moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    No. Bumrah is not the best. Top ten yes.
    Then who is the best on current form (in tests and ODIs)? Bumrah averaged 21 in tests in 2018, touring SA, England, and Australia. And 16 in ODIs despite being rested for some of the matches.

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    I don't think that Rabada is that great of a LOI bowler. Boult, Starc and Bumrah are all better than him in LOI.

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    All round, all format bumrah has been the best Bowler.
    Up front he can contain and at the death overs batsmen Struggle to hit him

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    1. Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels reconciling and burying their differences.

    2. An Indian fast bowler among the best fast bowlers of his time.

    3. India having one of the best bowling unit at any time.

    Agar yeh 3 cheez ho sakta hain, anything is possible. Ask us Indian fans how frustrated we have been with our fast bowlers since the 90's till until a few years ago. We'll be able to give you guys a proper definition of the word frustration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Then who is the best on current form (in tests and ODIs)? Bumrah averaged 21 in tests in 2018, touring SA, England, and Australia. And 16 in ODIs despite being rested for some of the matches.
    In Tests it's Rabada. He's no.1 for a reason.In odis, Hasan ali and Bumrah have very similar stats. Hasan ali is just going through a bad phase. But currently, Bumrahbis performing better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    No. Bumrah is not the best. Top ten yes.
    From what I see, he is head and shoulders above the others. The guy is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalin View Post
    Lol at a few posts above about "beast" Hassan Ali and average Bumrah.
    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Time for humble pies.

    Rabada>bumrah>hassan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Some hilarious posts regarding Bumrah by the usual suspects, exhibiting their ignorance and bias as usual.

    Rabada and Bumrah are both elite and at the same level. Hasan is levels below them. Just an okay bowler who had a great purple patch.
    Ever heard of the saying "Times change"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Ever heard of the saying "Times change"?
    Calling Hasan better than Bumrah was not an issue. He was going through a serious purple patch and it is understandable if some got carried away.

    However, mocking Bumrah and calling him mediocre was uncalled for. His ability as a fast bowler was very clear by the time this thread was made.

    People were still intoxicated by the no ball in the final.

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    Finally, the comment i was waiting for in this thread.

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    1) Rabada
    2) Bumrah






















    3) Hasan

    Easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    I'd be right in thinking you *still* agree with it?
    Yeah I agreed with that post in 2017. Wake up. It's Feb 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Bumrah is a special bowler. I will admit I may have been wrong on him.

    Special? Yes.

    But Rabada is still more special.

    Hassan Ali has had a bad year. But I will stick with my opinion that Hassan Ali is still a very good bowler and over a full career he will not finish far behind Bumrah. Though Rabada will hopefully finish an ATG. I don’t think either Bumrah or Rabada are ATG material yet. They might prove me wrong, but we cannot call them ATG material after 1 year of test cricket (and on and off for Hassan Ali).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    Special? Yes.

    But Rabada is still more special.

    Hassan Ali has had a bad year. But I will stick with my opinion that Hassan Ali is still a very good bowler and over a full career he will not finish far behind Bumrah. Though Rabada will hopefully finish an ATG. I don’t think either Bumrah or Rabada are ATG material yet. They might prove me wrong, but we cannot call them ATG material after 1 year of test cricket (and on and off for Hassan Ali).
    Lol when did i say Rabada isn't better ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahul1 View Post
    1) Rabada
    2) Bumrah






















    3) Hasan

    Easy.
    Just after one bad year?? Smh

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    I would prefer Rabada in tests, Bumrah in ODIs and Hasan ali in T20s

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    Bumrah is catching up fast in tests. However Rabada has been very disappointing in ODIs. His ranking flatters him really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Bumrah is catching up fast in tests. However Rabada has been very disappointing in ODIs. His ranking flatters him really.
    Yup Despite having had a chance to do well on helpful bouncy wickets. Interestingly against Asian sides his ODI records are not that stellar except Bangladesh.


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