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    Greatest home bully in test cricket history. Very entertaining though

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    Yes he will be a all time great, in fact he already is.

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    With away average of nearly 35 , he is not a test ATG yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeetu View Post
    With away average of nearly 35 , he is not a test ATG yet.
    Can you do a comparison between Rohit and Warner in all three formats?

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    Defo better than Viru as all format opener

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    Na More of a home track bully for me

    Very good player but not a great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Can you do a comparison between Rohit and Warner in all three formats?
    In Tests
    Player Stats Mat Runs Ave SR 100 50
    Rohit overall 43 3047 46.87 55.47 8 14
    Warner overall 88 7500 48.7 72.1 24 32
    Rohit away 24 1313 31.26 46.28 1 8
    Warner away 39 2521 33.17 67.96 5 17
    Rohit home 18 1670 79.52 66.61 7 6
    Warner home 47 4740 64.05 74.19 18 14
    Rohit neutral 1 64 32 42.95 0 0
    Warner neutral 2 239 59.75 78.61 1 1
    Rohit in Australia 7 408 31.38 47.66 0 3
    Warner in Australia 47 4740 64.05 74.19 18 14
    Rohit in Bangladesh 1 6 6 66.66 0 0
    Warner in Bangladesh 2 251 62.75 63.22 2 0
    Rohit in England 6 466 42.36 42.21 1 2
    Warner in England 13 651 26.04 67.04 0 7
    Rohit in India 18 1670 79.52 66.61 7 6
    Warner in India 8 388 24.25 55.74 0 3
    Rohit in New Zealand 2 122 40.66 43.72 0 1
    Warner in New Zealand 2 39 13 62.9 0 0
    Rohit in South Africa 4 123 15.37 42.12 0 0
    Warner in South Africa 6 760 63.33 80.67 3 4
    Rohit in Sri Lanka 3 202 33.66 55.49 0 2
    Warner in Sri Lanka 3 163 27.16 88.58 0 1
    Warner in U.A.E. 2 239 59.75 78.61 1 1
    Rohit in West Indies 2 50 25 60.97 0 0
    Warner in West Indies 5 269 26.9 58.86 0 2

    In ODI's
    Player Stats Mat Runs Ave SR 100 50
    Rohit overall 227 9205 48.96 88.9 29 43
    Warner overall 128 5455 45.45 95.53 18 23
    Rohit away 104 3310 38.48 81.14 10 15
    Warner away 50 1836 39.91 94.1 5 10
    Rohit home 68 3618 61.32 99.2 11 15
    Warner home 58 2616 46.71 100.26 9 10
    Rohit neutral 55 2277 52.95 86.64 8 13
    Warner neutral 20 1003 55.72 87.21 4 3
    Rohit Champions Trophy 10 481 53.44 82.5 1 4
    Warner Champions Trophy 4 88 29.33 83.01 0 0
    Rohit World Cup 17 978 65.2 95.97 6 3
    Warner World Cup 18 992 62 98.12 4 3

    In T20's
    Player Stats Span Mat Runs Ave SR 100 50
    Rohit overall 2007-2021 119 3197 33.3 140.28 4 26
    Warner overall 2009-2021 88 2554 32.74 140.48 1 21
    Rohit away 2007-2020 42 1001 29.44 134.36 1 10
    Warner away 2009-2020 32 897 28.93 139.71 0 8
    Rohit home 2007-2021 43 1178 30.2 147.25 3 6
    Warner home 2009-2019 23 767 45.11 148.35 1 5
    Rohit neutral 2007-2021 34 1018 44.26 138.69 0 10
    Warner neutral 2009-2021 33 890 29.66 135.05 0 8
    Rohit World Cup 2007-2021 33 847 38.5 131.52 0 8
    Warner World Cup 2009-2021 30 762 27.21 135.1 0 6


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Defo better than Viru as all format opener
    Sehwag was a massive underperformer in LOI. Has a good strike rate but mediocre average. In fact, he was mostly rubbish in ODIs before 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Defo better than Viru as all format opener
    I would viru over Warner

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    He is as good as English openers now.

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    Nope. I'd say his game is more suited to flat tracks , and most times in England he's struggled and refused to come out of Broads back pocket.

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    One of the greatest home track bully. Averages below 30 in 5 countries I think. How on earth is that an atg.
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    92* for DC vs SRH tonight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    92* for DC vs SRH tonight.
    Delhi Capitals (DC) opener David Warner scored a sublime half-century against SunRisers Hyderabad (SRH) to create a massive T20 batting record. Warner, who was tied at 88 fifties in T20 cricket with Chris Gayle before the match, scored his 89th in 34 balls against a dangerous SRH bowling line-up. The list consists of batting superstars like Virat Kohli at the third spot with 77 fifties followed by Aaron Finch who has 70 half-centuries to his name in the T20 format. Current Team India captain Rohit Sharma also features in the list at the fifth spot with 69 fifties against his name.


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    Warner may finish as an Aussie great by the time he retires. However, he is probably not an ATG-material.


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    Warner's shot of the tournament in IPL



    Delhi Capitals opening batter David Warner reserved his best for his former team SunRisers Hyderabad as he played an unbeaten knock of 92 to help the Rishabh Pant-led side post 207/3 in 20 overs. The side was then able to defend the total, registering a win by 21 runs to move to the fifth spot in the IPL points table. During the course of his innings, Warner played an innovative shot while changing the grip of his bat and becoming a right-handed batter. The shot is now being hailed as "shot of the tournament" by many on Twitter.

    Warner played the shot in the penultimate over of Delhi's innings of the bowling off Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

    On the first ball of the 19th over, Warner reversed his stance and seemed to be setting himself for a ramp shot. However, Bhuvneshwar bowled it wide and the batter got into a tangle but he somehow managed to get his bat down in time and the ball raced for a boundary towards the third man region.

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    Unlucky but for David Warner as he is out st Dickwella b de Silva 99(112)


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    Best all format batsman after Kohli and ABD.

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    Star Australian cricketer David Warner, who was handed a lifetime ban from leadership roles in the wake of a ball-tampering incident that took place in Cape Town against South Africa in 2018, is likely to be allowed to don the captaincy hat once again. Cricket Australia is planning to lift the ban on the opening batter, who has made a sensational return to international cricket after serving a year-long ban from competitive cricket.

    The 35-year-old was barred from captaincy for life after it was discovered that he plotted the scheme to use sandpaper to change the state of the ball against the Proteas in 2018.

    During that incident, the then skipper, Steve Smith, vice-captain Warner, and opening batter Cameron Bancroft were all given suspensions by CA after pleading guilty to ball-tampering. Bancroft received a nine-month suspension, while Warner and Smith received a 12-month ban each from all international and Australian domestic cricket. Smithís sentence also included an additional 12-month leadership ban.

    But after the completion of their punishments, the star duo of Warner and Smith made sensational comebacks. While Warner scored over 600 runs in the ICC World Cup 2019, Smith was the sideís best batter in the Ashes series that followed.

    As per recent developments, it is being reported that the leadership ban on Warner might come to an end soon, thereby making him eligible for the captaincy role in the team.

    According to News Corp Australia journalist Ben Horne, CA may reconsider the leadership suspension enforced on the former national vice-captain. It is learnt that the main cause of this is the likelihood of losing him to a cash-rich, competing T20 league. Warnerís potential interest in a captaincy position among Big Bash League teams suggests that CA will rethink its decision to reinstate Warnerís eligibility for such positions.

    Even though Warner was not permitted to captain any team in Australia, he did captain Sunrisers Hyderabad in the Indian Premier League until the middle of last season after returning in the 2019 edition of the cash-rich league.

    The left-hander is one of the best all-format batters in Australian cricket history. He was an integral part of the Aaron Finch-led side that won the 2021 edition of the ICC Menís T20 World Cup. The 35-year-old bagged the Player of the Tournament award in the United Arab Emirates.

    https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/...ticle-92450094


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Best all format batsman after Kohli and ABD.
    Sadly not an ATG in any format (or even close). Idk if he can make the All time Australia ODi team either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Sadly not an ATG in any format (or even close). Idk if he can make the All time Australia ODi team either
    Proberly can make all time Australia xi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Sadly not an ATG in any format (or even close). Idk if he can make the All time Australia ODi team either
    His contenders would be Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden. Gilchrist as no.1 pick. In T20, he can be ATG.
    Last edited by Ab Fan; 29th June 2022 at 12:27.

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    With an away test average of 34 and 6 100s from 44 matches is far from ATG stuff.

    In ODIs he has been one of the best in the last decade but, then again would be tough to be part of the All time XI of most.

    Not a straightforward ATG in any format but, in LOIs at least there can be chance of a debate for some. A top player without a doubt but, ATG is a height which is touched by a rare few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    His contenders would be Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden. Gilchrist as no.1 pick. In T20, he can be ATG.
    Yeah he's surely an ATG in T20, no question.

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    He is a gold level Australian great. One of the world's first and Australia's till date only 3-format batting great.

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    Warner is an ATG in my book. Puts the opposition on backfoot so fast they don't know what hit them.

    The only blot is he struggles in certain conditions. Still his significant strengths outweigh that.

    It's not all about numbers.

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    Hmm depends how much you value ODI cricket.

    in ODI, recency bias and inflated modern scores make him seem a shoe in... but should he be? He's an excellent opener. There'd be plenty in Oz who would have Hayden or M Waugh opening their ODI team though (alongside Gilchrist). You could make a strong case for any of those three. It's hard to be an ATG in a strong nation when you aren't an automatic pick in your best formats.

    Test record- well he's a home track bully by and large. Nothing wrong with that, most players are and only rare exceptions. Sehwag was a similar home track bully, also fun to watch in action.

    T20? Who cares really.
    He is notable for being the first Aussie cricketer launched out of club cricket/T20 teams & into longer format stardom by that pathway. But no one in Oz is really paying attention to T20 records.

    He's won WC in 2 formats. Very good home Test player. Probably deserves to be in the ATG conversation but has the misfortune of playing in an era when ODI has declined in importance/public awareness & being great at a tournament no one in Oz really follows (I hear he's very good at IPL).

    Problem comes if you have to ask if he's better than Hayden or M Waugh, across all conditions the answer is probably not. And he doesn't get near the best Test teams.

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    3 years back I was not so sure, but today I would say definitely an Australian Great and when he finishes up we will see if he is knocking on the door of ATG status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongun View Post
    Hmm depends how much you value ODI cricket.

    in ODI, recency bias and inflated modern scores make him seem a shoe in... but should he be? He's an excellent opener. There'd be plenty in Oz who would have Hayden or M Waugh opening their ODI team though (alongside Gilchrist). You could make a strong case for any of those three. It's hard to be an ATG in a strong nation when you aren't an automatic pick in your best formats.

    Test record- well he's a home track bully by and large. Nothing wrong with that, most players are and only rare exceptions. Sehwag was a similar home track bully, also fun to watch in action.

    T20? Who cares really.
    He is notable for being the first Aussie cricketer launched out of club cricket/T20 teams & into longer format stardom by that pathway. But no one in Oz is really paying attention to T20 records.

    He's won WC in 2 formats. Very good home Test player. Probably deserves to be in the ATG conversation but has the misfortune of playing in an era when ODI has declined in importance/public awareness & being great at a tournament no one in Oz really follows (I hear he's very good at IPL).

    Problem comes if you have to ask if he's better than Hayden or M Waugh, across all conditions the answer is probably not. And he doesn't get near the best Test teams.
    If you adjust stats for the era, Warner might not even be better than Hayden in ODIs. Hayden had amazing stats for his time

    Hayden in ODIs

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    Runs - 6133
    Avg - 43.80
    SR - 78.96
    100s - 10
    50s - 36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    If you adjust stats for the era, Warner might not even be better than Hayden in ODIs. Hayden had amazing stats for his time

    Hayden in ODIs

    Mat - 161
    Runs - 6133
    Avg - 43.80
    SR - 78.96
    100s - 10
    50s - 36
    That is what I am trying to suggest- that Warner , on a closer look, is not even so far ahead of Hayden or M Waugh that he automatically makes even the ATG Oz ODI team (and he is nowhere near the ATG test teams).

    Scores & run rates have risen 20% or more. Boundaries have shrunk, bats have grown etc.

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    For me Hayden was a better player than Warner in both Test and odi formats.

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    Nah, a htb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    If you adjust stats for the era, Warner might not even be better than Hayden in ODIs. Hayden had amazing stats for his time

    Hayden in ODIs

    Mat - 161
    Runs - 6133
    Avg - 43.80
    SR - 78.96
    100s - 10
    50s - 36
    Be careful with Hayden, minnow bashed hard in ODI's. Even the NZ teams he punished had the worst bowling attacks the country has had since the 70's. SA, Eng and SL probably had the 3 best attacks during his ODI career (which was primarily in the 2000's)

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    Warner out for 5 in the 2nd Test vs SL - not scored 100 for a while now...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Warner out for 5 in the 2nd Test vs SL - not scored 100 for a while now...
    He will be back.

    Possibly as soon as the second innings.

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