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    BJP MLA slams Virat Kohli, calls him 'unpatriotic' for marrying Anushka Sharma outside country

    In the rich and vast political landscape of India, celebrities have often been used as cannon fodder by politicians trying to score points for their parties.

    In once such incident, Pune BJP MLA Pannalal Sakya criticised Virat Kohli and Anushka Sharma for marrying in Italy. He took offence to the choice of the country for the famous marriage, even calling Virat Kohli 'unpatriotic'.



    The BJP MLA further accused Virat Kohli and Anushka Sharma of splurging money in another country, and not India.

    "In this country, Ram, Krishna, Vikramaditya, and Yudhisthira got married. And you people might have also married in this country or would get married. But no one among us goes abroad like he has gone. He earned his money and fame in India and took all of it abroad." the MLA said.

    The crowd was seen applauding in response to the BJP MLA's controversial comments.



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    Send unpatriotic Kohli to Pakistan, he could bat at three with Azam coming in at four.

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    BJP again? Something is wrong with them. BJP folks are bunch of heartless criminals and mass murderers, India should ban this party for creating unnecessary problems.

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    What's the big deal? Destination weddings are really common.

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    Imagine if Kholi was a Muslim, probably wouldnít have allow him to come back to India. Sad to see extremists are ruling India with majority of support from Indians.

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    In india there are politician from every party especially bjp where many m.ps and other netas are 5th fail and they only bark like dogs to come in lime light. but believe me it doesnt mean an iota to most of the people .Nobody take these jaahils seriously.
    Even our peons in govt offices are more educated and have sense than these netas.And i mean this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akki View Post
    In india there are politician from every party especially bjp where many m.ps and other netas are 5th fail and they only bark like dogs to come in lime light. but believe me it doesnt mean an iota to most of the people .Nobody take these jaahils seriously.
    Even our peons in govt offices are more educated and have sense than these netas.And i mean this.
    India pride itself to be the largest democracy in the world. From what I know, elections in India are not rigged and majority always win in democracy. Which translate people support them if they are kept getting elected.

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    Fringe noname politician. One among over 4000 MLAs, and has been publicly chided by the official BJP spokesperson for this comment. Unbecoming of a BJP politician, who are expected to display refined grace, manner and humility in public conduct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by www787 View Post
    India pride itself to be the largest democracy in the world. From what I know, elections in India are not rigged and majority always win in democracy. Which translate people support them if they are kept getting elected.
    That's the irony. There is always the second side as well. we have the most number of jaahils as well. its getting lesser with the passage of time. but its still more than enough to elect these sort of cartoons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    What's the big deal? Destination weddings are really common.
    BJP should instead concentrate on highlighting foreign celebrity couples who choose India as their destination wedding. Better for patriots to promote their own nation rather than chide their celebrities for doing what most Indians would do given half a chance - go abroad.


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    Bjp has brought fringe elements into the mainstream. Indians must do something about it in the next elections but unfortunately a large majority of them have modi tinted glasses in front of their eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Bjp has brought fringe elements into the mainstream. Indians must do something about it in the next elections but unfortunately a large majority of them have modi tinted glasses in front of their eyes.
    This is false. Every party had its share of fringe elements. Even the so called secular ones starting from congress.

    This MLA does not represent BJP's views and his view has been publicly ridiculed by the delhi spokesperson of BJP and my close friend Tejinder Bagga. It is just the anti BJP media which is using this as propaganda, because that is all they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    This is false. Every party had its share of fringe elements. Even the so called secular ones starting from congress.

    This MLA does not represent BJP's views and his view has been publicly ridiculed by the delhi spokesperson of BJP and my close friend Tejinder Bagga. It is just the anti BJP media which is using this as propaganda, because that is all they can do.
    I agree every party has such people. But dont you think such statements are coming far too often from the BJP's side compared to other parties?

    And lets be honest here, most of the Indian media is influenced by BJP itself so its hard to digest that they would run a campaign against BJP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    I agree every party has such people. But dont you think such statements are coming far too often from the BJP's side compared to other parties?

    And lets be honest here, most of the Indian media is influenced by BJP itself so its hard to digest that they would run a campaign against BJP.
    Not the Lutyen's media, which only highlights and gives space to idiotic opinions by low level BJP politicians and hides similar or worse statements from their preferred parties. When they should be raising real issues to corner.

    Few months ago kerala's (so called literate state) minister called a world bank official the N word. No media hightlight.

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    Haha we got plenty of such people just learn to live with it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by www787 View Post
    India pride itself to be the largest democracy in the world. From what I know, elections in India are not rigged and majority always win in democracy. Which translate people support them if they are kept getting elected.
    People don’t vote for comments such as these.. People vote for ideologies, caste, religion, perception of a leader or his party, then some vote for cash/alcohol, then there are organisations who have 500+ members whose leaders sell those 500+ votes to a political party for favours etc etc etc..

    In our democracy people chose the lesser of two evils for them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Haha we got plenty of such people just learn to live with it..
    I think this is sensible. Whether it is BJP or Congress making nationalistic and patriotic statements, it's only for the benefit of the people, and at the end of the day that is the job of a politician.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    I agree every party has such people. But dont you think such statements are coming far too often from the BJP's side compared to other parties?

    And lets be honest here, most of the Indian media is influenced by BJP itself so its hard to digest that they would run a campaign against BJP.
    BJP is playing a very dangerous game let’s hope it never backfires..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I think this is sensible. Whether it is BJP or Congress making nationalistic and patriotic statements, it's only for the benefit of the people, and at the end of the day that is the job of a politician.


    No it’s not for benefit of the people however you can’t do anything about it and more you read such stuff he more frustrating it becomes so best to laugh at such non sense and move on with your life..

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    Lol. Lmao
    Comedy at its best. Seems to me a mental midget whose head is filled with patriotism


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    If they’d married in India the wedding would have x100 media attention than it already had.A couple of reporters might have been standing outside the house of the caterers’ grandmother.

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    Prime Minister Narendra Modi Attends Virat Kohli, Anushka Sharma's Wedding Reception

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi attended cricketer Virat Kohli and actor Anushka Sharma's wedding reception party in New Delhi on Thursday. Kohli and Anushka had extended the invitation to PM Modi earlier on Wednesday. The wedding reception took place at the Taj Palace Hotel in the capital. The couple had tied the knot in Tuscany, Italy on December 11 in a private wedding ceremony attended by their family and close friends. The couple fondly called 'Virushka', posed for a photo session outside the venue. Virat Kohli was seen sporting a sherwani while Anushka wore a striking red and gold sari.

    There is another reception scheduled for December 26 in Mumbai, a day ahead of the Indian team's departure for South Africa.

    After their brief honeymoon, somewhere in Europe, Virat and Anuskha landed in the capital for their wedding reception. The couple will travel to South Africa where Virat will start preparing for upcoming series and Anushka will spend New Year's Eve with him and return in first week of January to begin next schedule of a film with Shah Rukh Khan in Mumbai, the spokesperson had said. Talking about Anushka's future assignments, the spokesperson went on to add, "She will also start prepping for Sui Dhaaga as the shooting for the same starts in February 2018 with Varun Dhawan. Anushka will also be busy with the marketing and promotions of Pari which is releasing on 9th February." Kohli will join the India squad for the South Africa series beginning January 5.

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    Modi attends Kohli's reception. When the BJP head itself has no issue, who is this Panna Lal?


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    Have realized that only south Asia don't have dimwit elected leaders ,Trump is a Prez of a country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Have realized that only south Asia don't have dimwit elected leaders ,Trump is a Prez of a country.
    This is yet another media hit job to malign BJP. Using the comments of a noname insignificant politician to defame the entire party. It is like maligning PTI and Imran Khan based on the dimwit leaders like khawaja asif.

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    Well Shining India has the largest number of people trying to escape from it, you can't blame Kohli and Sharma to try to get away from it for their big day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    This is yet another media hit job to malign BJP. Using the comments of a noname insignificant politician to defame the entire party. It is like maligning PTI and Imran Khan based on the dimwit leaders like khawaja asif.
    Khawaja Asif is a Noora

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    This is yet another media hit job to malign BJP. Using the comments of a noname insignificant politician to defame the entire party. It is like maligning PTI and Imran Khan based on the dimwit leaders like khawaja asif.


    What has media got to do with it? This guy is part of BJP he made stupid comments.. Whether it’s his views or the party’s views doesn’t matter fact is BJP give tickets to such idiots so they will get criticism..

    And BJP is no saint party it has few good leaders at top level however the ground level is full of gooons.. Same goons who were Earlier part of SP, BSP in UP are now part of BJP.. Long story short all parties are the same full with idiots, public still votes for them and get what they deserve cycle will continue..

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    What has media got to do with it? This guy is part of BJP he made stupid comments.. Whether itís his views or the partyís views doesnít matter fact is BJP give tickets to such idiots so they will get criticism..

    And BJP is no saint party it has few good leaders at top level however the ground level is full of gooons.. Same goons who were Earlier part of SP, BSP in UP are now part of BJP.. Long story short all parties are the same full with idiots, public still votes for them and get what they deserve cycle will continue..
    So before giving tickets BJP should interview the politicians what they think about destination weddings abroad? How is this politician a goon, does he have criminal cases against him?

    The media has got everything to do with it. It only highlighted that this MLA (who even knows about MLAs) from BJP said such and such, but it did not say the response from BJP's spokesperson. It does not highlight the worse comments from leaders from many other parties (hint kerala). Instead of highlighting real issues, the leech media tries to sensationalize every trivial matter and gives space to idiotic comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    So before giving tickets BJP should interview the politicians what they think about destination weddings abroad? How is this politician a goon, does he have criminal cases against him?

    The media has got everything to do with it. It only highlighted that this MLA (who even knows about MLAs) from BJP said such and such, but it did not say the response from BJP's spokesperson. It does not highlight the worse comments from leaders from many other parties (hint kerala). Instead of highlighting real issues, the leech media tries to sensationalize every trivial matter and gives space to idiotic comments.

    Two wrongs shouldn’t make a right, media should highlight the issues. They don’t doesn’t mean highlighting this is wrong..

    Ideally yes there should be an interview and thorough background check for every candidate who any political party gives ticket to at a decent.. It’s not about destination weddings but the mindset of a person can be easily known talking to him about a topic for few minutes.. Interview would help in that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Two wrongs shouldn’t make a right, media should highlight the issues. They don’t doesn’t mean highlighting this is wrong..

    Ideally yes there should be an interview and thorough background check for every candidate who any political party gives ticket to at a decent.. It’s not about destination weddings but the mindset of a person can be easily known talking to him about a topic for few minutes.. Interview would help in that..
    It IS wrong when you ignore or highlight something based on the identity or ideology of who is saying it. That is propaganda. Just a while ago you were saying media has got nothing to do with it? Lutyens media is not here to report facts. They are here to shape public opinion to serve their self interests. Worse than some pannalal who took offence with someone marrying abroad. With so many pressing issues, the media and the sheeple ( the secular indians who start lactating outrage over every statement) are busy wasting their time on such things which don't deserve any attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    It IS wrong when you ignore or highlight something based on the identity or ideology of who is saying it. That is propaganda. Just a while ago you were saying media has got nothing to do with it? Lutyens media is not here to report facts. They are here to shape public opinion to serve their self interests. Worse than some pannalal who took offence with someone marrying abroad. With so many pressing issues, the media and the sheeple ( the secular indians who start lactating outrage over every statement) are busy wasting their time on such things which don't deserve any attention.
    Media hasn’t got nothing to do with it means if the guy didn’t give ek this stupid statement no media house would have reported it.. since he gave the statement and he is an elected member it got reported.. Totally his fault..

    Secondly this guy uses BJP to garner support get votes, people vote on basis of political parties as well and not just individuals and political parties use MLA’s for their support (money in party fund too).. So you can’t run away from it.. Everytime someone makes a hate speech or a stupid comment like this political party spokesperson comes up and say “it’s his/her individual opinion” ..

    You have no clue about media majority of media right now is Pro-BJP.. You think BJP doesn’t use media for its own gain? Every party is the same you have no clue how politics in India work.. He politician-media-mafia-businessmen-celebrity nexus has been going on since ages and will continue to go on whether it’s bjp congress or any party in power this is reality..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    Lol only BJP leaders can come up with ideas like these. I really feel bad for BJP bhakhts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    Hahaha he got voted by majority voters from his constituency. Imagine that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    This dude has such a punchable face.

    Kohli should punch him for distracting his woman like that.

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    I was wondering how Patal Lok didnít have an issue lol with these dimwits.

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    Surely someone like Kohli-Sharma could easily have had a more spectacular wedding ceremony in India hosted in a stadium like environment, 5000 guests, 100 dances, musical performances, exotic dishes and treats.

    Maybe they wanted to keep it low key outside the country and wanted their privacy. Even Deepika and Ranveer Singh did the same.

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    Ofcourse people wont post the entire news here as it will be counter productive to their narrative.

    Pataal Lok used pictures lf Nand Kishore Gujjar and showed him to be involved with criminals and dacoits in a pic in the series. Ofcourse he will complain againist them.


    Bollywood actor-turned-producer Anushka Sharma is facing fresh trouble over her web series 'Paatal Lok'.

    Uttar Pradesh BJP MLA Nand Kishore Gurjar has filed a complaint against Anushka Sharma for using his photo in the show without his permission.

    The image in question was taken in March, 2018 and is a real image featuring not just Gurjar but also UP Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath.

    It was clicked at the inauguration of a six-lane elevated highway project in Ghaziabad. Yogi Adityanath had even tweeted the images.

    A morphed version of the image was used in 'Paatal Lok' in which the image of the fictional and dirty politician Balkrishna Bajpayee has superimposed on that of Adityanath. The faces of the remaining persons in the photo such as Gurjar were left unedited.



    In his complaint against Anushka Sharma, Gurjar has sought that the web series shows Gurjar in a bad light and promotes communal disharmony. He has asked for the National Security Act to be invoked against Anushka Sharma and a ban on the show.

    The MLA has said in his complaint that the show is trying to malign the image of the BJP and is also 'anti-India'.

    Anushka Sharma's 'Paatal Lok' is already facing legal trouble with the Gorkha community for allegedly hurting Nepali sentiments.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Surely someone like Kohli-Sharma could easily have had a more spectacular wedding ceremony in India hosted in a stadium like environment, 5000 guests, 100 dances, musical performances, exotic dishes and treats.

    Maybe they wanted to keep it low key outside the country and wanted their privacy. Even Deepika and Ranveer Singh did the same.
    To be fair, holding a wedding in one of Europe's most attractive countries would be a dream for most Indians. 99% of them couldn't afford it, but if you are one of India's biggest celebrities, then that gives you the opportunity others would only dream about.

    Getting married in a third world country will have it's charms no doubt, but in Italy they won't need to build walls to hide the slums for those all important wedding shots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    To be fair, holding a wedding in one of Europe's most attractive countries would be a dream for most Indians. 99% of them couldn't afford it, but if you are one of India's biggest celebrities, then that gives you the opportunity others would only dream about.

    Getting married in a third world country will have it's charms no doubt, but in Italy they won't need to build walls to hide the slums for those all important wedding shots.
    Some of the worlds richest persons have had their weddings in India. Ofcourse you may be ignorant about such venues as it will be impossible for you to get to visit India.

    Also you may not be aware how a celebrity like Kohli will find his wedding to be kept private in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Lol only BJP leaders can come up with ideas like these. I really feel bad for BJP bhakhts.
    Sanghis are as dumb as their bhakts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Hahaha he got voted by majority voters from his constituency. Imagine that.
    UP is called Ulta Pradesh for a reason. Even just after demonetization, they elected these bigots by giving them more than 80% of UP assembly seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Some of the worlds richest persons have had their weddings in India. Ofcourse you may be ignorant about such venues as it will be impossible for you to get to visit India.

    Also you may not be aware how a celebrity like Kohli will find his wedding to be kept private in India.
    When you say some of the world's richest persons, do you in fact mean some of the world's richest Indians?

    Why would I want to get a visa to India? Indians shoot their glamour movies in London, you don't see British film makers going to Mumbai unless the movie is about poverty or drugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    When you say some of the world's richest persons, do you in fact mean some of the world's richest Indians?

    Why would I want to get a visa to India? Indians shoot their glamour movies in London, you don't see British film makers going to Mumbai unless the movie is about poverty or drugs.
    True, I also see the stereotype of the Pakistani terrorist or even the British ones who are always shown as scheming against the nation etc etc. I am surprised British Pakistanis don't protest against this. May be since they are told watching movies or listening to music is haraam in some areas of Britain that could be the case. As someone who has a lot of cool Pakistani friends, I find that offensive too.

    Anyway coming back to the topic, didn't Katy Perry one of the biggest pop stars and Russell Brand the British comedian have their destination wedding in India. May be you don't reach pop culture news and only a certain type of "current affairs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    True, I also see the stereotype of the Pakistani terrorist or even the British ones who are always shown as scheming against the nation etc etc. I am surprised British Pakistanis don't protest against this. May be since they are told watching movies or listening to music is haraam in some areas of Britain that could be the case. As someone who has a lot of cool Pakistani friends, I find that offensive too.

    Anyway coming back to the topic, didn't Katy Perry one of the biggest pop stars and Russell Brand the British comedian have their destination wedding in India. May be you don't reach pop culture news and only a certain type of "current affairs"
    Russell Brand is a wacky left wing socialist, if he went to India for a wedding it would probably be to appear the opposite of glamorous. Wouldn't surprise me if the wedding was a very simple affair conducted on a beach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    When you say some of the world's richest persons, do you in fact mean some of the world's richest Indians?

    Why would I want to get a visa to India? Indians shoot their glamour movies in London, you don't see British film makers going to Mumbai unless the movie is about poverty or drugs.
    I am talking about people like Katy Perry, Liz Hurley, Salman Rushdie etc.

    You wont get a visa to India hence you wont be seeing any of these venues.

    If anyone wants to make a movie based in London, it will be shot in London, not Mumbai or Newyork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    To be fair, holding a wedding in one of Europe's most attractive countries would be a dream for most Indians. 99% of them couldn't afford it, but if you are one of India's biggest celebrities, then that gives you the opportunity others would only dream about.

    Getting married in a third world country will have it's charms no doubt, but in Italy they won't need to build walls to hide the slums for those all important wedding shots.
    I see you take this "Third world country" dig often when you cant debate with facts. I mean you are a Pakistani yourself just happen to live in Britain. But for a random white person there you are still a brown guy from same third world country. Genetics bro...cant hide it.

    Though its quiet obvious that 99% of Indians cant afford a luxury wedding in Europe. But I dont think Asians living in Southall, Upton Park, Ilford, East Ham etc can either. Look I have travelled extensively in Britain and most European countries. I have seen the living condition of Desis there.

    Britain ruled and looted subcontinent for 400 years. So obviously it will take bit longer to eradicate all 3rd world problems. But hey atleast we live here with our head held high. Unlike 3rd generation Asian brits who were brought to Britain as labours to fix their country post WWII. Sorry to say you staying in Britain dont impress us at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    I am talking about people like Katy Perry, Liz Hurley, Salman Rushdie etc.

    You wont get a visa to India hence you wont be seeing any of these venues.

    If anyone wants to make a movie based in London, it will be shot in London, not Mumbai or Newyork.
    Liz Hurley and Salman Rushdie hahahaha thatís your worlds richest person list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Liz Hurley and Salman Rushdie hahahaha thatís your worlds richest person list
    Take a few seconds to enjoy your counter. Now since we got that away, the context of the last few posts are that celebrities and rich folk do exotic destination weddings all the time.

    Be it Virushka or Katy-Brand etc or an obscure industrialist from some small town of India.

    For people from SC Europe is exotic and Indian sc has this mystique for westerners.

    Everyone acknowledges what the politician said is dumb but the guy was taking digs at India where it was totally unrelated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Take a few seconds to enjoy your counter. Now since we got that away, the context of the last few posts are that celebrities and rich folk do exotic destination weddings all the time.

    Be it Virushka or Katy-Brand etc or an obscure industrialist from some small town of India.

    For people from SC Europe is exotic and Indian sc has this mystique for westerners.

    Everyone acknowledges what the politician said is dumb but the guy was taking digs at India where it was totally unrelated.
    Did I say Indian weddings are not dream destinations? Iím laughing at the worldís richest comment.

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    @Rajdeep I'm afraid your post is replete with nonsensical generalisations that has no bearing in reality. Did you speak to every indigenous white person to arrive at that silly, spurious notion that white people are overwhelmingly racist or bigoted. Most white people I know - friends, family, neighbours, colleagues and associates - are open minded, liberal, outward looking folk and nothing like you erroneously describe.

    You comment that you've travelled extensively around Britain but then list three localities in one small London borough, which is one of the most deprived in the UK. If that is the breadth of your experience, I'm afraid it speaks volumes about the socioeconomic situation of the people you were either visiting or associating with.

    Coincidentally, Newham as well as neighbouring borough Tower Hamlets, has historically been the first place for large migrating communities to head to - Hugenots, Irish, Jews, Pakistanis and more recently Bangladeshis. Within a generation, after bettering their personal situation, many families move out to the outskirts near the green belt as well as beyond. Conversely, did you get to visit Harrow, Chiswick or Wimbledon? Plenty of affluent South Asians reside there with all the trappings of a wealthy lifestyle.

    People of South Asia descent who arrived here from the 1950s through to the 1980s weren't brought here by anybody but came of their own volition. Moreover, they were not classified as economic migrants in context or status but were exercising a right bestowed upon them as citizens of the Commonwealth; to wit, the same right to settle in the UK as any white person had, who happened to be living in an overseas territory. The majority came here to build better lives for their families and plenty have thrived and have been very successful.

    There are a small vocal minority who make a lot of noise criticising immigration and it's effects but the vast majority of the English appreciate and acknowledge the contribution made by those who arrived post WW2 to help rebuild the nation. Indeed, the current situation is highlighting their contribution in a very positive way, considering the disproportionate number of the BAME community who work in out NHS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    To be fair, holding a wedding in one of Europe's most attractive countries would be a dream for most Indians. 99% of them couldn't afford it, but if you are one of India's biggest celebrities, then that gives you the opportunity others would only dream about.

    Getting married in a third world country will have it's charms no doubt, but in Italy they won't need to build walls to hide the slums for those all important wedding shots.
    This is just me but i would personally prefer to get married in my home country in that Pakistani environment. In the west, i find the expenses are way too much, it cost my dad $100,000 Canadian for my sister's wedding functions in Canada and the US. Hosting these functions in Pakistan would cost probably 20% of that plus you can get a lot more done, definitely have a better and wider menu and be able to invite more people.

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    What's happening with indians know a date and their OTT nationalism kinda cringy tbh

    Always thaught they were these Bollywood elite bozos ready to turn Mumbai into LA for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superflex View Post
    @Rajdeep

    You comment that you've travelled extensively around Britain but then list three localities in one small London borough, which is one of the most deprived in the UK. If that is the breadth of your experience, I'm afraid it speaks volumes about the socioeconomic situation of the people you were either visiting or associating with.

    Superflex name suits your comment you are basically kindly saying hey man you associate with broke people you don't know stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superflex View Post
    @Rajdeep I'm afraid your post is replete with nonsensical generalisations that has no bearing in reality. Did you speak to every indigenous white person to arrive at that silly, spurious notion that white people are overwhelmingly racist or bigoted. Most white people I know - friends, family, neighbours, colleagues and associates - are open minded, liberal, outward looking folk and nothing like you erroneously describe.

    You comment that you've travelled extensively around Britain but then list three localities in one small London borough, which is one of the most deprived in the UK. If that is the breadth of your experience, I'm afraid it speaks volumes about the socioeconomic situation of the people you were either visiting or associating with.

    Coincidentally, Newham as well as neighbouring borough Tower Hamlets, has historically been the first place for large migrating communities to head to - Hugenots, Irish, Jews, Pakistanis and more recently Bangladeshis. Within a generation, after bettering their personal situation, many families move out to the outskirts near the green belt as well as beyond. Conversely, did you get to visit Harrow, Chiswick or Wimbledon? Plenty of affluent South Asians reside there with all the trappings of a wealthy lifestyle.

    People of South Asia descent who arrived here from the 1950s through to the 1980s weren't brought here by anybody but came of their own volition. Moreover, they were not classified as economic migrants in context or status but were exercising a right bestowed upon them as citizens of the Commonwealth; to wit, the same right to settle in the UK as any white person had, who happened to be living in an overseas territory. The majority came here to build better lives for their families and plenty have thrived and have been very successful.

    There are a small vocal minority who make a lot of noise criticising immigration and it's effects but the vast majority of the English appreciate and acknowledge the contribution made by those who arrived post WW2 to help rebuild the nation. Indeed, the current situation is highlighting their contribution in a very positive way, considering the disproportionate number of the BAME community who work in out NHS.
    I respect your viewpoint but you seemed to be upset with a generalization when the post Rajdeep was responding to was condescending and generalization in itself.

    When you hear generalizations that all Hindus are killing Muslims for eating beef or all Muslims are blowing up buildings, then by the same account white people especially White Europeans and especially British whites having prejudice also belongs to the same category.

    You canít pick and chose what you have an issue with.

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    @Local.Dada My friend, I'm afraid I must respectfully disagree. You're incorrectly framing this in a rigid binary way which never bodes well for the facts or for those of us who don't really have a dog in the fight.

    Moreover, that if one side engages in spurious correlation and unsubstantiated generalisations, this then is the green light for the opposing side to do the same, is utter folly, reductive and has no basis in logic. Indeed, this action is the preserve of the troll, the unintelligent and those lacking knowledge. If you're convinced of your argument and have a reasonable grasp of the facts, why choose to employ assertions that can be refuted with little to no effort. One insignificant, momentary triumph against an inerudite adversary lacking articulation, is not really a victory. If you're introspective, deep down you will have the realisation that it was achieved on a foundation of lies.

    I was born and bred in the UK; it is my home and I've never felt like an outsider, regardless of the occasional negative murmurings concerning migrants. I know some feel the opposite but personally I feel it's a mindset thing and I refuse to allow bigots and racists to dictate to me how I should feel about the country I was born and raised in. I am a product of my environment and nothing and nobody can change that fact, even though some try to delegitimize my experience, as Rajdeep did. Also, Rajdeep's post contained many glaringly incorrect generalisations about the country I call my home; that was my only concern and the reason for my interjection. Conversely speaking, I have an interest in the affairs of the Indian Subcontinent as my parents hail from there but I prefer not to boil everything down to nationalistic/religious lines. However that doesn't preclude the possibility I might make it personal. (wink)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    I am talking about people like Katy Perry, Liz Hurley, Salman Rushdie etc.

    You wont get a visa to India hence you wont be seeing any of these venues.

    If anyone wants to make a movie based in London, it will be shot in London, not Mumbai or Newyork.
    Liz Hurley got married to an Indian, and Salman Rushdie also got married to an Indian. Both women dumped their Indian partners as well incidentally.

    I am in England, why would I want a visa to India? Do you see many Brits stampeding for Indian visas?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    I see you take this "Third world country" dig often when you cant debate with facts. I mean you are a Pakistani yourself just happen to live in Britain. But for a random white person there you are still a brown guy from same third world country. Genetics bro...cant hide it.

    Though its quiet obvious that 99% of Indians cant afford a luxury wedding in Europe. But I dont think Asians living in Southall, Upton Park, Ilford, East Ham etc can either. Look I have travelled extensively in Britain and most European countries. I have seen the living condition of Desis there.

    Britain ruled and looted subcontinent for 400 years. So obviously it will take bit longer to eradicate all 3rd world problems. But hey atleast we live here with our head held high. Unlike 3rd generation Asian brits who were brought to Britain as labours to fix their country post WWII. Sorry to say you staying in Britain dont impress us at all.
    Why would I want to hide my genetics? Do you think Imran Khan needs to hide his? This is only telling of your own inferiority complex, something which was always hard for me to figure having grown up with many Indians in the UK.

    I am sure there are many poor desis in the UK, but you see if you had ever stepped outside of Southall or Wembley, you might have noticed there are many poor white people as well. But the poor people here live relatively well, and also benefit from good sanitation and infrastructure.

    That is why I don't differentiate on skin colour. When I talk about India being a third world country, that's not a dig, it's just a reality compared to Britain. Nothing to do with genetics, simply about wealth and standards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    This is just me but i would personally prefer to get married in my home country in that Pakistani environment. In the west, i find the expenses are way too much, it cost my dad $100,000 Canadian for my sister's wedding functions in Canada and the US. Hosting these functions in Pakistan would cost probably 20% of that plus you can get a lot more done, definitely have a better and wider menu and be able to invite more people.
    No doubt you could get the wedding done a lot cheaper in Pakistan or India, but if you have a lot of friends or family in the UK, you would basically be excluding them from the event, unless you expect them to fly over on their own expense. I suppose if your main family is still resident in Pakistan/India, then it would make more sense to do it there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Take a few seconds to enjoy your counter. Now since we got that away, the context of the last few posts are that celebrities and rich folk do exotic destination weddings all the time.

    Be it Virushka or Katy-Brand etc or an obscure industrialist from some small town of India.

    For people from SC Europe is exotic and Indian sc has this mystique for westerners.

    Everyone acknowledges what the politician said is dumb but the guy was taking digs at India where it was totally unrelated.
    You should explain this to your jaahil BJP neta. 90% of them have a habit of giving statements like these. This is nothing new for rest of us. And bro I love your patriotism towards India. It's always good to see people who ditch their own country for money and better lifestyle acting patriotic from outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Why would I want to hide my genetics? Do you think Imran Khan needs to hide his? This is only telling of your own inferiority complex, something which was always hard for me to figure having grown up with many Indians in the UK.

    I am sure there are many poor desis in the UK, but you see if you had ever stepped outside of Southall or Wembley, you might have noticed there are many poor white people as well. But the poor people here live relatively well, and also benefit from good sanitation and infrastructure.

    That is why I don't differentiate on skin colour. When I talk about India being a third world country, that's not a dig, it's just a reality compared to Britain. Nothing to do with genetics, simply about wealth and standards.
    Firstly good that you take pride in country. That is actually pretty heartwarming to see under the context if you know what I mean and hope there are more true nationalists first like yourself and that would do your community a whole lot of good. I truly mean it.

    Now you being a British national as a 2nd gen or 3rd gen is just circumstantial. It wasn't your skill or talent that made them seek you out. That would apply to your previous gen. So, not sure why you have to make a dig at the less fortunate? Clearly, none of the Indians here are underprivileged, so you are just taking digs at the real unfortunate people everytime you think you are dissing India and guess what flash news, poverty exists in 99% of the world.

    You can take purely personal digs if you'd like or debate or even use sarcasm, no problem but your this so called "I am privileged because I am 2nd gen immigrant" comes across as not so flattering to anyone, probably including your own countrymen and other people of the Brit-Pak community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    No doubt you could get the wedding done a lot cheaper in Pakistan or India, but if you have a lot of friends or family in the UK, you would basically be excluding them from the event, unless you expect them to fly over on their own expense. I suppose if your main family is still resident in Pakistan/India, then it would make more sense to do it there.
    Actually in our situation, most of our friends, colleagues, extended family are in Pakistan. The most immediate family members however are in the US, Canada, UK including my grand mother who is 92 years old.

    The funny part is that all my chachas, phuppos, phuppa who live in the US or Canada and constantly boast about how professionally, financially successful, well off they are, complain about the hassle of going to Pakistan and how expensive it is to buy tickets and then to stay in Pakistan for 2 weeks. These people refused to attend my elder brother's wedding in 2011 for the same reason much to the annoyance of my parents. Heck my chacha who was visiting and enjoying a holiday in Peshawar in December 2019 refused to attend my Nikkah in Abbotabad in December 2019 which is just a 90 minutes drive and attend for 4-6 hours under the pretext that he was visiting Peshawar and his childhood friends after 20 years and he could not adjust his plans even though my dad informed his 4 months in advance to keep schedule open.

    I thank god i found a spouse in Pakistan and even though all these immediate relatives have been lobbying to have the wedding functions in the US, Canada which is ludicrous because the girl and her family is from Pakistan, everyone knows its a ludicrous suggestion and that this time they will have to get their behinds to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Firstly good that you take pride in country. That is actually pretty heartwarming to see under the context if you know what I mean and hope there are more true nationalists first like yourself and that would do your community a whole lot of good. I truly mean it.

    Now you being a British national as a 2nd gen or 3rd gen is just circumstantial. It wasn't your skill or talent that made them seek you out. That would apply to your previous gen. So, not sure why you have to make a dig at the less fortunate? Clearly, none of the Indians here are underprivileged, so you are just taking digs at the real unfortunate people everytime you think you are dissing India and guess what flash news, poverty exists in 99% of the world.

    You can take purely personal digs if you'd like or debate or even use sarcasm, no problem but your this so called "I am privileged because I am 2nd gen immigrant" comes across as not so flattering to anyone, probably including your own countrymen and other people of the Brit-Pak community.
    Why is my being a Brit any more circumstantial than a white Brit? Or a Jewish Brit? Do you ever hear Indians saying this about white Americans or Australians, or Canadians? Just reeks of more inferiority complex I'm afraid.

    Please understand, it is not 'having a dig' at unfortunate people to point out third world countries are not as attractive destinations for weddings as some European destinations. It's just a fact, not a judgement. Try looking at immigration figures from east to west if you don't accept it. If anything it should be an aspiration for eastern countries to emulate the standards of western ones. That is what would really alleviate poverty in the third world rather than telling people not to talk about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Why is my being a Brit any more circumstantial than a white Brit? Or a Jewish Brit? Do you ever hear Indians saying this about white Americans or Australians, or Canadians? Just reeks of more inferiority complex I'm afraid.

    The white in white Brit is silent. Call that white privilege. In your case, your britishness is described by a hyphen. Brit-Pak. Which side of the hyphen you lie more describes your degree of britishness. Britishness is not a passport document. In my opinion, your britishness is more than the average brit-pak as you show more love for Britain than Pakistan, and also above the average daily mail reader but can see a huge jump if you become well read in British literature. Doubt that you have even read tale of two cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Why is my being a Brit any more circumstantial than a white Brit? Or a Jewish Brit? Do you ever hear Indians saying this about white Americans or Australians, or Canadians? Just reeks of more inferiority complex I'm afraid.

    Please understand, it is not 'having a dig' at unfortunate people to point out third world countries are not as attractive destinations for weddings as some European destinations. It's just a fact, not a judgement. Try looking at immigration figures from east to west if you don't accept it. If anything it should be an aspiration for eastern countries to emulate the standards of western ones. That is what would really alleviate poverty in the third world rather than telling people not to talk about it.
    Firstly yes, poverty exists in India, who denies that?

    However yes, India is an exotic travel destination for the westerners. In fact Indian tourism is a pretty significant money spinner. Can the Indian government do better to promote? absolutely however forget the mainstream monuments and exotic resorts but there is a huge spiritual tourism market too with all those yoga and meditation retreats and ashrams.

    I am surprised that despite (assumption here so apologies in advance) having basic education (not the religious kind) and clearly access to the internet, you are not aware that India is a popular and exotic destination for western tourists all these years. Unless you live in a closed bubble of course which makes total sense.

    So yes whenever you bring the underpriveleged and less fortunate you are displaying yourself if you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    The white in white Brit is silent. Call that white privilege. In your case, your britishness is described by a hyphen. Brit-Pak. Which side of the hyphen you lie more describes your degree of britishness. Britishness is not a passport document. In my opinion, your britishness is more than the average brit-pak as you show more love for Britain than Pakistan, and also above the average daily mail reader but can see a huge jump if you become well read in British literature. Doubt that you have even read tale of two cities.
    I have actually read a large amount of British literature, but not that tome in particular. But the very fact I know how to use the word tome puts me in the top percentile of Brits for Britishness.

    I have no problem accepting that British whites are a special breed. That can be construed as a plus or a minus depending on your viewpoint. Like any other race they can be the highest of the high, or the lowest of the low. Or if you are Indian perhaps always the British Raj, I don't know, cannot speak for you guys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Firstly yes, poverty exists in India, who denies that?

    However yes, India is an exotic travel destination for the westerners. In fact Indian tourism is a pretty significant money spinner. Can the Indian government do better to promote? absolutely however forget the mainstream monuments and exotic resorts but there is a huge spiritual tourism market too with all those yoga and meditation retreats and ashrams.

    I am surprised that despite (assumption here so apologies in advance) having basic education (not the religious kind) and clearly access to the internet, you are not aware that India is a popular and exotic destination for western tourists all these years. Unless you live in a closed bubble of course which makes total sense.

    So yes whenever you bring the underpriveleged and less fortunate you are displaying yourself if you know what I mean.
    I see. So by that token, every time you talk about uber religious and backward British Pakistanis, this is in fact a reflection on yourself? I think you may have a valid point here. Always wondered why Indian keyboard warriors spent so much time talking about Pakistan and Islam when they could be talking about literature, sports, great wonders of the world and such. You are a big BJP advocate yes?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I have actually read a large amount of British literature, but not that tome in particular. But the very fact I know how to use the word tome puts me in the top percentile of Brits for Britishness.

    I have no problem accepting that British whites are a special breed. That can be construed as a plus or a minus depending on your viewpoint. Like any other race they can be the highest of the high, or the lowest of the low. Or if you are Indian perhaps always the British Raj, I don't know, cannot speak for you guys.
    The British Raj indeed was the best thing to happen in india's entire history. If only India had remained as an autonomous region as part of the British commonwealth, we would have seen a different India.

    The problem with Brit Paks is that they use the britishness as an adjective to the pakistani noun, a mere decorator to their main pakistani identity. Should have been Pak Brits instead, but they have the right to choose which identity they feel closer to. Credit to the white Brits ( and not Brit Whites) who have accommodated all kinds of alien communities, even those who don't put Britain First.

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    The British Raj indeed was the best thing to happen in india's entire history. If only India had remained as an autonomous region as part of the British commonwealth, we would have seen a different India.

    The problem with Brit Paks is that they use the britishness as an adjective to the pakistani noun, a mere decorator to their main pakistani identity. Should have been Pak Brits instead, but they have the right to choose which identity they feel closer to. Credit to the white Brits ( and not Brit Whites) who have accommodated all kinds of alien communities, even those who don't put Britain First.
    Every first world nation today has either accepted alien communities to drive their growth, or have become conquering aliens abroad themselves. I can't think of any modern nation which has managed to isolate and preserve racial segregation successfully.

    But perhaps we are getting off the topic somewhat, maybe we need a new thread to discuss these issues. There must be a fair few on British Pakistanis or multiculturalism which would suit that debate better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I see. So by that token, every time you talk about uber religious and backward British Pakistanis, this is in fact a reflection on yourself? I think you may have a valid point here. Always wondered why Indian keyboard warriors spent so much time talking about Pakistan and Islam when they could be talking about literature, sports, great wonders of the world and such. You are a big BJP advocate yes?
    Have you thought that whenever those topics that your are so invested in like Sports, literature and great wonders are brought up you are the first guy to bring up toilets, slums and poverty? Case in point the thread you yourself opened about Indiaís contribution to the world.

    There is a lot of material on that thread that can help enrich your knowledge but even there you kept going back to your go to phrases

    Pick any post of mine where I have generalized unprovoked or tried to provoke involuntary ? Also read my posts where there is no conflict involved. I see my self as non-confrontational. However since you seem to be triggered by digs on Brit-Pakistanis I would like to apologize to the community on this forum because obviously some of those guys done fit the generalization and I have no problem being the bigger man to apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Have you thought that whenever those topics that your are so invested in like Sports, literature and great wonders are brought up you are the first guy to bring up toilets, slums and poverty? Case in point the thread you yourself opened about India’s contribution to the world.

    There is a lot of material on that thread that can help enrich your knowledge but even there you kept going back to your go to phrases

    Pick any post of mine where I have generalized unprovoked or tried to provoke involuntary ? Also read my posts where there is no conflict involved. I see my self as non-confrontational. However since you seem to be triggered by digs on Brit-Pakistanis I would like to apologize to the community on this forum because obviously some of those guys done fit the generalization and I have no problem being the bigger man to apologize.
    The thread about Indian contribution to the world was intended as a chance to highlight exactly that...the nation's contribution to the world. By all means bump the thread and quote me if you feel I was only talking about slums, toilets etc. I think you will find I was encouraging more positive contributions from Indian members themselves. let's try not to discuss every topic under the sun in one thread.


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    @Local.Dada I think most would agree, your value is derived from from your function in society amongst other things and not what generation you hail from.

    The scores if not hundreds of white folk lining the streets to applaud and acknowledge the doctor in the video below aren't concerned with which generation this poor man was from. His effort, dedication and untimely demise in the line of his work is what's being celebrated. Conversely, his race/religion is both relevant and simultaneously irrelevant. His race was highlighted as the BAME community is disproportionately represented in the mortality figures (including the healthcare profession) but is of no consequence ultimately as we're suffering this plight together as one nation regardless of ethnicity.

    (Skip to 1.05 for the actual footage)

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dCWa5vDEWts

    PS I appreciate you're joshing with the other responder and may be employing generalisations you ordinarily would abstain from.


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