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    Sohaib Maqsood 'injured' for NZ T20Is but fit enough to play One Day Cup?

    Sohaib Maqsood was declared unfit by selectors for NZ T20I series but today he is not only playing but bowling as well in one-day Departmental Cup.

    However, Sohaib Maqsood himself has confirmed that he is suffering from a bad back and only playing to help UBL win the Departmental One-Day Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood was declared unfit by selectors for NZ T20I series but today he is not only playing but bowling as well in one-day Departmental Cup.

    However, Sohaib Maqsood himself has confirmed that he is suffering from a bad back and only playing to help UBL win the Departmental One-Day Cup.
    Thats ok but he should focus on his fitness pak need a player like him in the middle.

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    'Injured' maqsood cruising towards a 100


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    'Injured' maqsood cruising towards a 100
    Nearing 100 with 100 sr..And he's injured..Lol...

    And also bowled today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    'Injured' maqsood cruising towards a 100
    That hypocrite inzi is lying..he looks fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    That hypocrite inzi is lying..he looks fit.
    I guess Maqsood himself is also lying when he says he has a back injury. With all due respect to domestic cricket, international cricket requires athletes to be in peak fitness levels when they are going to face the likes of Southee, Boult and Ferguson on their home turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    I guess Maqsood himself is also lying when he says he has a back injury. With all due respect to domestic cricket, international cricket requires athletes to be in peak fitness levels when they are going to face the likes of Southee, Boult and Ferguson on their home turf.
    OK.He has hismself to blame then.but we have seen inzi double standards previously so it would have been no surprise.

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    Seems like his confidence is back. Back in PSL, he was looking so out of form and confidence.
    He is at his best when he is on attack, don't know why he tried to play slowly during his run with international team.

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    fitness seems good so what the heck is he doing in Pakistan?


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    OK what the hell happened here?

    Either the back injury is serious enough for him to be unavailable for the NZ T20Is, in which case there is no way he should have been playing today.

    Or the injury is a mild one which is why he was able to play today, meaning he should have been able to recover fully in time for the T20Is.

    Or... there is no injury? Don't want to go down this route but I've suffered back issues myself and even standard activity is not easy, let alone bowling 2 overs, fielding for 50 overs and then batting and making 89 off 94 balls! He was playing pull shots and what not with such ease!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    OK what the hell happened here?

    Either the back injury is serious enough for him to be unavailable for the NZ T20Is, in which case there is no way he should have been playing today.

    Or the injury is a mild one which is why he was able to play today, meaning he should have been able to recover fully in time for the T20Is.

    Or... there is no injury? Don't want to go down this route but I've suffered back issues myself and even standard activity is not easy, let alone bowling 2 overs, fielding for 50 overs and then batting and making 89 off 94 balls! He was playing pull shots and what not with such ease!!!
    But he acnt play t20..lolz..Inzi we know what are u trying to do.

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    Same Inzamam cleared Umar Akmal for the Champions Trophy before he failed the fitness test in England.

    Maqsood may not be 100% at the moment, but can’t be any less unfit than what Umar was prior to the Champions Trophy. However, Inzamam still selected him.

    The hypocrisy and double-standards of this man are sickening.

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    and note the strike rate - it wasnt as if he played out the overs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Same Inzamam cleared Umar Akmal for the Champions Trophy before he failed the fitness test in England.

    Maqsood may not be 100% at the moment, but can’t be any less unfit than what Umar was prior to the Champions Trophy. However, Inzamam still selected him.

    The hypocrisy and double-standards of this man are sickening.
    cant agree more.

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    Some saying on social media that he was massaging his own back whilst batting - if so, doubly unprofessional on everyone's behalf


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    Maqsood na indirectly is banday ko b niqaab kya ha.Everyone should know now that double standard and corruption of this loyal person cant be ignored.

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    If Maqsood had been selected there would not have been a place to select Inzi's favourite Ahmed Shehzad... hence Maqsood was 'injured'


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Some saying on social media that he was massaging his own back whilst batting - if so, doubly unprofessional on everyone's behalf
    Maybe he is just doing it to tease Inzy


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    Maqsood has done a major harm to his chances of representing PAK in future.

    What I understand is that he might have little back spasm, which was a day or 2 issue; but Ul Haq took the chance of using it and dropped him - then announced it as the reason. I am sure Maqsood had deliberately took a risk & played yesterday - and he bowled, batted at usual 4, to expose the scam.

    This won’t be taken well by the Imandar Admi - extremely vindictive person, he’ll settle the score at some point.

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    Injured.

    Plays a "50" over game in "TWO DAYS". Scores 80+ at 90+ sr.
    Bowls well.

    But cannot play a "20" over game, in "TWO WEEKS".

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    From the look of it, there is no back injury at all. The injury was just another lie made up by Inzimam, and Maqsood obviously would never repudiate Inzimam in public. Because you know what happens to the people going against PCB. It would have been end of his career.

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    He should have been on the plane to NZ.He would have completely recovered by then.

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    If the players says I am not fit then you can only go by his word. Inzi not at fault but scrutiny should be on the player.

    Maybe he ducked a tough tour intentionally? Just a thought.

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    Our domestic scene is such that half fit players are pileing on the runs ,,kami akmal is another example the guy is a run machine 🤨🤨 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    OK what the hell happened here?

    Either the back injury is serious enough for him to be unavailable for the NZ T20Is, in which case there is no way he should have been playing today.

    Or the injury is a mild one which is why he was able to play today, meaning he should have been able to recover fully in time for the T20Is.

    Or... there is no injury? Don't want to go down this route but I've suffered back issues myself and even standard activity is not easy, let alone bowling 2 overs, fielding for 50 overs and then batting and making 89 off 94 balls! He was playing pull shots and what not with such ease!!!
    The revolutionary continues to baffle Pakistan fans. At the stage he's becoming comical in his selections. Maqsood should have been selected.

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    if they say he was not fit, he probably wasnt. the innings does not change my mind. they have objective methods of measuring fitness.
    let the faux debate of gym fitness vs. match fitness and useless example of ranatunga, commence

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEddardStark View Post
    From the look of it, there is no back injury at all. The injury was just another lie made up by Inzimam, and Maqsood obviously would never repudiate Inzimam in public. Because you know what happens to the people going against PCB. It would have been end of his career.
    Not if you are an akmal. Umar akmal went after foreign coach in media and bash him but still a darling and playing.

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    I saw Maqsood at the 2015 WC and on our last New Zealand limited overs tour and he looked awful. He struggled against the short ball and barely scored an innings of note.

    To those who watch domestic cricket regularly, has he improved his game and worked on his flaws ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
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    Aren't the T20s more than 10 days away?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Aren't the T20s more than 10 days away?
    First T20I against NZ scheduled for 22nd Jan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    First T20I against NZ scheduled for 22nd Jan.
    Daylight robbery


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    Damage control effort by Maqsood - might have read my post😜.

    You think with a pain in spinal disk, guy played a full 100 overs match, batted for 89, bowled off spinners and fielded almost entire 50 overs on 1st day of his 10 day recovery period?

    That guy is striving for a little window to get back in PAK team - he’ll inform national selector his unavailability for a T20 series 10-12 days later....... then play on the request of his club team management very next day!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Damage control effort by Maqsood - might have read my post��.

    You think with a pain in spinal disk, guy played a full 100 overs match, batted for 89, bowled off spinners and fielded almost entire 50 overs on 1st day of his 10 day recovery period?

    That guy is striving for a little window to get back in PAK team - he’ll inform national selector his unavailability for a T20 series 10-12 days later....... then play on the request of his club team management very next day!!!!!
    lets take it at face value. there are enough conspiracy theorists in pakistan, already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    I saw Maqsood at the 2015 WC and on our last New Zealand limited overs tour and he looked awful. He struggled against the short ball and barely scored an innings of note.

    To those who watch domestic cricket regularly, has he improved his game and worked on his flaws ?
    I saw a few innings. plenty of cross-bat stuff. cant say for sure: but this is the system that produced sharjeel and fakhar as well. Maybe his PSL form could tell us something, but I did not really follow that.

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    Full respect to Maqsood for playing with a terrible spinal injury. Trust me i know how debilitating it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    I saw a few innings. plenty of cross-bat stuff. cant say for sure: but this is the system that produced sharjeel and fakhar as well. Maybe his PSL form could tell us something, but I did not really follow that.
    His PSL 'form', if you can call it that:

    Sohaib Maqsood c McCullum b Yasir Shah 0 (4)
    Sohaib Maqsood not out 30 (24)
    Sohaib Maqsood c and b Mohammad Sami 0 (3)
    Sohaib Maqsood c Pollard b Usman Shinwari 5 (5)
    Sohaib Maqsood did not bat
    Sohaib Maqsood c Asad Shafiq b Mahmudullah 0 (2)

    However, this was 11 months ago. Hopefully he does (a lot) better in PSL 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    His PSL 'form', if you can call it that:

    Sohaib Maqsood c McCullum b Yasir Shah 0 (4)
    Sohaib Maqsood not out 30 (24)
    Sohaib Maqsood c and b Mohammad Sami 0 (3)
    Sohaib Maqsood c Pollard b Usman Shinwari 5 (5)
    Sohaib Maqsood did not bat
    Sohaib Maqsood c Asad Shafiq b Mahmudullah 0 (2)

    However, this was 11 months ago. Hopefully he does (a lot) better in PSL 3.
    thats not very encouraging. in general i am wary of domestic cricketers whose go to shot is the pull. prefer guys who play the off-side.

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    Hopefully he does have a good PSL 3

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    Among 3/4 games on Saturday night, I am watching the Final as well - miracle does happen, Maqsood is playing the Final with an I5 disk pain .........

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    Have to agree with MMHS.

    I've seen numerous athletes (NFL, NHL, NBA) deal with this issue and they're usually out for 4-6 weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    Have to agree with MMHS.

    I've seen numerous athletes (NFL, NHL, NBA) deal with this issue and they're usually out for 4-6 weeks.
    Miracle - Maqs is fielding at short extra cover - arguably the 2nd most busy spot after WK ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Among 3/4 games on Saturday night, I am watching the Final as well - miracle does happen, Maqsood is playing the Final with an I5 disk pain .........
    Being a doctro i know.impossible to playe even t10 match.....ridiculous stuff by inzi.

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    Back injury is a serious issue and its difficult to play even with pain killers. He has become the man of the crisis for UBL, helping them chase targets by playing good brand of cricket.

    He scored a staggering 310 in 6 matches with an average of 51.7.

    Even if he had scored more than Kamran Akmal, it is now clear Inzamam would not have selected him as his batting position is no.3-no.5.
    Chief selector has continued to shield the middle order players for most of his tenure now by not selecting any alternatives in the squad. Team management has no one to replace Malik, Hafeez and Azam with.

    Harris Sohail might also be nearing a record of not playing any cricket but staying in the squad for most of his career as most of the batting options selected are removed from the squad if not selected in any matches.

    I am sure Inzamam will continue to block any hopefuls and lobby for Salman Butt, Akmals and Shehzads selection in the team.

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    Sohaib Maqsood is another useless player just like Akmal brothers.

    Shaan Masood - the highest Runs Scorer of National One Day Cup, scored 3 centuries, 4 half-centuries, in just 9 innings with the average of 158+

    It's just a prove that how PCB destroys talent, by selecting them in the wrong format. He wasn't a test player, just like Azhar Ali is a brilliant test player but not a ODI or T20 player.

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    Maqsood should have been selected. He's fit enough to play in these games so he should be fine for T20s. More proof of the revolutionary showing favouritism to his loyal group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamstead_joy View Post
    Back injury is a serious issue and its difficult to play even with pain killers. He has become the man of the crisis for UBL, helping them chase targets by playing good brand of cricket.

    He scored a staggering 310 in 6 matches with an average of 51.7.

    Even if he had scored more than Kamran Akmal, it is now clear Inzamam would not have selected him as his batting position is no.3-no.5.
    Chief selector has continued to shield the middle order players for most of his tenure now by not selecting any alternatives in the squad. Team management has no one to replace Malik, Hafeez and Azam with.

    Harris Sohail might also be nearing a record of not playing any cricket but staying in the squad for most of his career as most of the batting options selected are removed from the squad if not selected in any matches.

    I am sure Inzamam will continue to block any hopefuls and lobby for Salman Butt, Akmals and Shehzads selection in the team.
    I just salute for such a brilliant opinion. I have noticed that there is a lobby who advocates selection of Asif, Salman Butt, Ahmed Shahzad, Akmal brothers, Hafeez, Malik, Wahab Riaz, Sohail Tanvir, Umar Amin etc etc. But they give stupid excuses when it comes about the selection of the guys who are actually performing in the premiere domestic tournaments, whether its QA Trophy, Departmental One Day Cup, National T20 etc etc.

    I hope they won't select players for Tests and ODIs from the T20 based PSL.

    If you remember the politics of particular lobby which is even present within PCB, they deliberately selected Khuram Manzoor & Fawad Alam for T20 formats, so they have the excuse later on that these players are selected but didn't perform.

    See England, Jason Roy was dropped from Tests, so he can concentrate fully on Limited overs format. Morgan & Butler also doesn't plays Tests. But they are one of the best Limited overs players.

    We lost 2011 & 2015 World Cups, just because we considered seniority and experience rather than talent and performance.

    PCB needs to choose right players for the right format.

    Sarfaraz needs to shuffle and re-arrange the batting positions of the current ODI team. He is playing with the wrong combination. Except 2-3 so-called senior players, our team is fine and good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Maqsood should have been selected. He's fit enough to play in these games so he should be fine for T20s. More proof of the revolutionary showing favouritism to his loyal group.
    Sohaib Maqsood is another useless player just like Akmal brothers.

    Shaan Masood - the highest Runs Scorer of National One Day Cup, scored 3 centuries, 4 half-centuries, in just 9 innings with the average of 158+

    Asad Shafiq - Third highest Runs Scorer of National One Day Cup, scored 2 centuries, 3 half-centuries, in just 7 innings with the average of 78+

    It's just a prove that how PCB destroys talent, by selecting them in the wrong format. He wasn't a test player, just like Azhar Ali is a brilliant test player but not a ODI or T20 player.
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    Highest Runs Scorers of National One Day Cup :

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ype=tournament


    My opinion is that Azhar Ali should play the remaining 2 matches of the series. So we can have justification to drop him from ODIs, I still believe that Opening pair of Azhar & Fakhar has worked brilliantly in the CT 2017, and needs to be continue.

    But if Azhar Ali fails even in the remaining 2 ODIs against NZ, he must be dropped as a punishment, because failing in 5 continuous matches are fair enough to drop a player.

    Those who performs should remain in the team, and those who don't, should be thrown out. SIMPLE FORMULA

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood is another useless player just like Akmal brothers.

    Shaan Masood - the highest Runs Scorer of National One Day Cup, scored 3 centuries, 4 half-centuries, in just 9 innings with the average of 158+

    Asad Shafiq - Third highest Runs Scorer of National One Day Cup, scored 2 centuries, 3 half-centuries, in just 7 innings with the average of 78+

    It's just a prove that how PCB destroys talent, by selecting them in the wrong format. He wasn't a test player, just like Azhar Ali is a brilliant test player but not a ODI or T20 player.

    He's performing at domestic level. He is a power hitter something which we don't have . It's better to try him than stick with Azhar and Hafeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He's performing at domestic level. He is a power hitter something which we don't have . It's better to try him than stick with Azhar and Hafeez.
    What this so-called "power hitter" did in 2015 World Cup ? .. how many centuries he made so far in international ?

    Dear we don't need power hitters, we need players who can rotate strike on regular basis and play long innings, we need players who can score centuries, we need players who has the habit to stay on the crease.

    Having Fahim Shadab & Hasan are good enough to have power hitters down the order.

    Instead of Hafeez, select mature player like Asad Shafiq to bat No.5, he is a player who can stay on the wicket, who can rotate strikes on regular basis. Just what Williamson & Taylor was doing. If you take 2 singles, 1 double and put the bad ball for the boundary, it can easily give you 7 runs without any "power hitting".

    We need to come out of the myth of power hitting and the myth of seniority. We need batsmen who scores big and stays long at the crease with continuous strike rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He's performing at domestic level. He is a power hitter something which we don't have . It's better to try him than stick with Azhar and Hafeez.
    After the result of Departmental One Cup & Pakistan's failure in NZ tour. Our team for next ODI series, should be like :

    01 - Fakhar Zaman
    02 - Shan Masood (if Azhar fails in the remaining 2 ODIs against NZ)
    03 - Sarfraz Ahmed
    04 - Babar Azam
    05 - Asad Shafiq
    06 - Haris / Sohaib (if Malik fails in the remaining 2 ODIs against NZ)
    07 - Fahim Arshraf (can also utilize him at No.3 if the target is 250+)
    08 - Shadab Khan
    09 - Hasan Ali
    10 - Muhammad Amir
    11 - Junaid Khan (Rumman will be backup)

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    What this so-called "power hitter" did in 2015 World Cup ? .. how many centuries he made so far in international ?

    Dear we don't need power hitters, we need players who can rotate strike on regular basis and play long innings, we need players who can score centuries, we need players who has the habit to stay on the crease.

    Having Fahim Shadab & Hasan are good enough to have power hitters down the order.

    Instead of Hafeez, select mature player like Asad Shafiq to bat No.5, he is a player who can stay on the wicket, who can rotate strikes on regular basis. Just what Williamson & Taylor was doing. If you take 2 singles, 1 double and put the bad ball for the boundary, it can easily give you 7 runs without any "power hitting".

    We need to come out of the myth of power hitting and the myth of seniority. We need batsmen who scores big and stays long at the crease with continuous strike rotation.

    Yes, Shafiq can certainly score big on consistent basis at good strike rate which is quite evident from his mighty average of 24 and SR of 67 after 60 matches. Worst batsman to have played 50+ matches for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddgenius View Post
    Yes, Shafiq can certainly score big on consistent basis at good strike rate which is quite evident from his mighty average of 24 and SR of 67 after 60 matches. Worst batsman to have played 50+ matches for Pakistan.
    Thats why he was fairly dropped from ODI team and being selecterd for Tests only. But now he is the 3rd highest Runs Scorer in Departmental One Day Cup, with 2 centuries and 3 half-centuries in just 7 matches. This brilliant performance & failure of pathetic Hafeez & Malik, makes him eligible enough to be recalled for ODIs.

    However, if Asad fails again, then yes and why not he should be dropped and try another one for No.5 position.

    Furthermore, If Asad is bad, then lets try another one like Fawad Alam, Saad Ali, or anyone else who can rotate strike on regular basis, without playing too many dot balls like Misbah Hafeez & Malik. Lolz
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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Thats why he was fairly dropped from ODI team and being selecterd for Tests only. But now he is the 3rd highest Runs Scorer in Departmental One Day Cup, with 2 centuries and 3 half-centuries in just 7 matches. This brilliant performance & failure of pathetic Hafeez & Malik, makes him eligible enough to be recalled for ODIs.

    However, if Asad fails again, then yes and why not he should be dropped and try another one for No.5 position.

    Furthermore, If Asad is bad, then lets try another one like Fawad Alam, Saad Ali, or anyone else who can rotate strike on regular basis, without playing too many dot balls like Misbah Hafeez & Malik. Lolz
    Yes, let's replace one TTF with another TTF. Haris Sohail and Sohaib Maqsood should be the ones coming into the team in place of Hafeez and Malik.


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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Thats why he was fairly dropped from ODI team and being selecterd for Tests only. But now he is the 3rd highest Runs Scorer in Departmental One Day Cup, with 2 centuries and 3 half-centuries in just 7 matches. This brilliant performance & failure of pathetic Hafeez & Malik, makes him eligible enough to be recalled for ODIs.

    However, if Asad fails again, then yes and why not he should be dropped and try another one for No.5 position.

    Furthermore, If Asad is bad, then lets try another one like Fawad Alam, Saad Ali, or anyone else who can rotate strike on regular basis, without playing too many dot balls like Misbah Hafeez & Malik. Lolz
    Sohaib Maqsood and Kamran Akmal have scored at similar average and a much better strike rate so they deserve a go ahead of Shafiq, no?
    Now, you'd say they are tried and tested but Shafiq isn't who has played thrice the number of ODI's than Maqsood.

    Also, i find it quite funny that all the players you're advocating for are from Karachi. Shafiq, Fawad, Saad Ali and Khurram Manzoor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddgenius View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood and Kamran Akmal have scored at similar average and a much better strike rate so they deserve a go ahead of Shafiq, no?
    Now, you'd say they are tried and tested but Shafiq isn't who has played thrice the number of ODI's than Maqsood.

    Also, i find it quite funny that all the players you're advocating for are from Karachi. Shafiq, Fawad, Saad Ali and Khurram Manzoor.
    Brother check again.

    How many total runs and centuries Sohaib Maqsood has scored as compared to Shan Masood and Asad Shafiq ?

    Kamran Akmal played nearly 10 years for Pakistan but was a failed experience. So as Umar Akmal. Now he should remain out of team doesn't matter how well he plays. He deserves that. He cost us several times in loosing the important matches. Any other team should have dropped him way back in 2007-08.

    SAAD ALI - Most Runs Scorer in Quaid e Azam Trophy 2017-18

    SHAAN MASOOD - Most Runs Scorer in Departmental One Day Cup 2017-18

    Performance speaks themselves. Select them or stay with pathetic team of Akmal brothers, Ahmed Shahzad, Malik & Hafeez.

    See how badly Salman & Akmal brothers performed in today's final. Still you defend them ? ... Funny to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Yes, let's replace one TTF with another TTF. Haris Sohail and Sohaib Maqsood should be the ones coming into the team in place of Hafeez and Malik.
    No Haris Sohail.

    Bring Asad at No.5 but if he fails, drop him as well and bring another one.

    Sohaib Maqsood at No.6 . While Sarfraz & Babar should bat at upper numbers like No.3 or No. 4 or vice versa.


    Who ever fails, drop him. Who ever score runs, continue with them. SIMPLE as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddgenius View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood and Kamran Akmal have scored at similar average and a much better strike rate so they deserve a go ahead of Shafiq, no?
    Now, you'd say they are tried and tested but Shafiq isn't who has played thrice the number of ODI's than Maqsood.

    Also, i find it quite funny that all the players you're advocating for are from Karachi. Shafiq, Fawad, Saad Ali and Khurram Manzoor.
    Brother think as a Pakistani, think as a cricket lover. Not being any one else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    After the result of Departmental One Cup & Pakistan's failure in NZ tour. Our team for next ODI series, should be like :

    01 - Fakhar Zaman
    02 - Shan Masood (if Azhar fails in the remaining 2 ODIs against NZ)
    03 - Sarfraz Ahmed
    04 - Babar Azam
    05 - Asad Shafiq
    06 - Haris / Sohaib (if Malik fails in the remaining 2 ODIs against NZ)
    07 - Fahim Arshraf (can also utilize him at No.3 if the target is 250+)
    08 - Shadab Khan
    09 - Hasan Ali
    10 - Muhammad Amir
    11 - Junaid Khan (Rumman will be backup)
    Fascinating XI, almost frightening with Shan & Sarfraz in top 3. I have just one concern - Asad at 5. Don't you think that picking a player based on his scores batting at top 3 (opener), and then play him at 5 could be a bit risky? Haris also at 6 ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Fascinating XI, almost frightening with Shan & Sarfraz in top 3. I have just one concern - Asad at 5. Don't you think that picking a player based on his scores batting at top 3 (opener), and then play him at 5 could be a bit risky? Haris also at 6 ........

    I mentioned Shan just because Azhar Ali has failed so far in NZ. Other wise Azhar Ali is my always first choice. Mentioned in the bracket also. :-)

    If Azhar scores runs in the remaining 2 ODIs, then he should continue and I wish so. his combination with Fakhar has proven in CT as well. but since his comeback after injury, he seems out of touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    I mentioned Shan just because Azhar Ali has failed so far in NZ. Other wise Azhar Ali is my always first choice. Mentioned in the bracket also. :-)

    If Azhar scores runs in the remaining 2 ODIs, then he should continue and I wish so. his combination with Fakhar has proven in CT as well. but since his comeback after injury, he seems out of touch.
    You think, "in touch", Azhar Ali is more frightening?

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    This is frankly bizarre.

    Something not right here.

    The guy is allegedly injured yet putting his career at stake to play in these matches, yet he's allegedly not fit for international cricket.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    You think, "in touch", Azhar Ali is more frightening?
    his elevn can even beat our historical strong line up and he places shafiq for number 5 while he scored runs as an opener and want talat to score century in domestic while he bats st 7 .Azhar is his first option.mujhay bcha lo bhai .

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    What this so-called "power hitter" did in 2015 World Cup ? .. how many centuries he made so far in international ?

    Dear we don't need power hitters, we need players who can rotate strike on regular basis and play long innings, we need players who can score centuries, we need players who has the habit to stay on the crease.

    Having Fahim Shadab & Hasan are good enough to have power hitters down the order.

    Instead of Hafeez, select mature player like Asad Shafiq to bat No.5, he is a player who can stay on the wicket, who can rotate strikes on regular basis. Just what Williamson & Taylor was doing. If you take 2 singles, 1 double and put the bad ball for the boundary, it can easily give you 7 runs without any "power hitting".

    We need to come out of the myth of power hitting and the myth of seniority. We need batsmen who scores big and stays long at the crease with continuous strike rotation.


    What can he do at 6 or 7? That isn't his position. He's not a finisher. He's a top order player who can clear the boundaries with ease.

    Asad Shafiq isn't an ODI player. What did he do in his 60 odd apprenaces lol? You won't pick Maqsood because of a few bad games but you would pick Shafiq after years of failure.

    Not even gonna comment on your future 11. I don't think you have been following LO cricket in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    What can he do at 6 or 7? That isn't his position. He's not a finisher. He's a top order player who can clear the boundaries with ease.

    Asad Shafiq isn't an ODI player. What did he do in his 60 odd apprenaces lol? You won't pick Maqsood because of a few bad games but you would pick Shafiq after years of failure.

    Not even gonna comment on your future 11. I don't think you have been following LO cricket in 2018.
    I'm following domestic & International cricket since early 90s.

    Secondly, its fine with Asad Shafiq not to be picked for ODIs.

    Brother thats the point,

    those who clear boundaries should at No.6, No.7, No.8

    those who rotate strikes, stays at the crease, play long innings, should bat at No.3, No.4 and No.5

    If you are 6 lover then keep selecting players from PSL and T10 type league and then get your team out at 74 or 150.

    Tell me what Sohaib did in 2015 World Cup, he played almost the whole tournament, tell me single match he won for us ?

    Tell me any single match other than 2015 World Cup (except B grade teams like Srilanka WI Zimbabwe Bang)

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    Why waste so much time on a guy who just a glorified tailender!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    I'm following domestic & International cricket since early 90s.

    Secondly, its fine with Asad Shafiq not to be picked for ODIs.

    Brother thats the point,

    those who clear boundaries should at No.6, No.7, No.8

    those who rotate strikes, stays at the crease, play long innings, should bat at No.3, No.4 and No.5

    If you are 6 lover then keep selecting players from PSL and T10 type league and then get your team out at 74 or 150.

    Tell me what Sohaib did in 2015 World Cup, he played almost the whole tournament, tell me single match he won for us ?

    Tell me any single match other than 2015 World Cup (except B grade teams like Srilanka WI Zimbabwe Bang)

    Number 3,4, and 5 also need to have the ability to accelerate . . Most of the top teams have players in these positions who can hit boundaries and rotate the strike.

    He did rubbish at the 2015 WC but he is in good form now and deserves a chance. Hafeez and Azhar are out of form so it's a no brainer for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Number 3,4, and 5 also need to have the ability to accelerate . . Most of the top teams have players in these positions who can hit boundaries and rotate the strike.

    He did rubbish at the 2015 WC but he is in good form now and deserves a chance. Hafeez and Azhar are out of form so it's a no brainer for me.
    Agree with you.

    Big power hitters needs to be at lower number because team needs 10+ runs per over in last 10 overs. But its only possible when they have at least 7 wickets behind this onslaught.

    To me, We need strike rotators like Sarfraz, Babar needs to bat at upper numbers while big power hitters like Husain Talat, Sohaib Maqsood, Fahim Ashraf, needs to bat at lower numbers. No.6, 7 and 8 respectively.

    REGARDING ASAD SHAFIQ :

    Well he is obviously not my "phuppi ka larka". I'm saying what ever on the basis of recent performances in the domestic arena whether its Asad Shafiq, Saad Ali, Usman Salahuddin, Fawad Alam or Saud Shakeel.

    See Asad Shafiq scored 2 centuries, 3 half-centuries in just 7 matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop558 View Post
    Agree with you.

    Big power hitters needs to be at lower number because team needs 10+ runs per over in last 10 overs. But its only possible when they have at least 7 wickets behind this onslaught.

    To me, We need strike rotators like Sarfraz, Babar needs to bat at upper numbers while big power hitters like Husain Talat, Sohaib Maqsood, Fahim Ashraf, needs to bat at lower numbers. No.6, 7 and 8 respectively.

    REGARDING ASAD SHAFIQ :

    Well he is obviously not my "phuppi ka larka". I'm saying what ever on the basis of recent performances in the domestic arena whether its Asad Shafiq, Saad Ali, Usman Salahuddin, Fawad Alam or Saud Shakeel.

    See Asad Shafiq scored 2 centuries, 3 half-centuries in just 7 matches.
    I thin you are miscalculating this thing that lower order will score 10 per over.Gone are the days when team were going to stabalize first and then bang,we are losing because we are still with that mentality while other accelerate from start.they never let it to 10 per over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    I thin you are miscalculating this thing that lower order will score 10 per over.Gone are the days when team were going to stabalize first and then bang,we are losing because we are still with that mentality while other accelerate from start.they never let it to 10 per over.
    Stabilizing the innings doesn't matter to play tuk tuk and waste too many balls like typical pakistani style. Be it Misbah, Younis, Hafeez or Malik...

    Stabilizing the innings neither even means to start bashing and mad hitting in the middle of the innings.

    Actual meanings of stabilizing the innings means to rotate strike on regular basis without playing too many dot balls, and hit boundaries on the bad and deserving balls. Hence, if you are 180/2 after 40. Even then you can score 310+.

    Scoring 100-140 runs between last 10 runs is not a big deal in today's modern day ODI cricket.

    Aussies, Indians, England, South Africa, NZ all teams does it so often.

    Didn't you see how Williamson & Taylor played sensibly with regular strike rotation when Pak was bowling brilliantly, they saved wicket to bash in the end. They knew our Chasing strength is weak and if they got pass beyong 240, Pakistan may get all the pressure. We are historically poor chasers.

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