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  1. #1
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    How good is Joe Root, the ODI player?

    Joe Root's LOI stats are nothing but ecstatic so far.With a luxurious average of 51.71 and handy strike rate of 86.85

    Root becomes the 3rd fastest to 4000 ODI runs which is only slower than Amla and Richards

    Averages are not everything,but they say a lot about consistency, and at the highest level that comes only with the right temperament and technique

    Root lacks some flair of great odi player but he exudes confidence ,control,and a sense of calm makes him a valuable player in shorter format

    Part of an aggressive batting line-up Root's composure provides much needed stability for England's ODI team.

    He is a very good against lateral movement,a busy player of spin and can slog fairly well too

    I think he is the linchpin that holds england's batting side together so thus he getting the right recognition he deserves ?

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    Averages 71 in last 3 years at sr of 93
    Avg in succesful chases is 89 3rd best of all time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Averages 71 in last 3 years at sr of 93
    Avg in succesful chases is 89 3rd best of all time
    Played 2 gun knocks in SA last year

    scored hundreds in centurion and johannesburg against Abbott,Rabada,Tahir and Morkel
    Last edited by Protea Fan; 19th January 2018 at 16:16.

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    A more pleasing and attractive version of Amla. His forte is his consistency.

    However, till now he has failed to win a single match against a top quality opponent on his own. He has been excellent in supporting roles however.

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    Joe root may not be the greatest test batsman but he is amazing in odis

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    Even in t20s he is brilliant . Hasnt got a proper run in t20s but scored 83 in 230 run chase and 54 in wc final. Doesnt look the guy who can score at a fast pace but he rotates yhe syrike excellently. He has ran most ones and twos since 2013.

  7. #7
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    No he’s rubbish. He can’t convert fifties. Look at that 91 not out!

  8. #8
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    Root is the backbone of England batting line up. He is only behind Kohli, AB, and Rohit in ODIs

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    Great player. Better than Steven Smith.

  10. #10
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    Best ENG batsman in the post WW2 era.

  11. #11
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    One of the reasons why England are such a formidable ODI side. I think he might be right behind Kohli as one of the best ODI bats in this era.


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    We could do with a player like that in the ODI team.

  13. #13
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    High quality player in ODIs.

  14. #14
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    One dimensional and limits his team's potential.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    Class player. Perfect for England. Has guys around him to do the heavy lifting. Like babar will be for us inshaAllah


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    One dimensional and limits his team's potential.
    Take him out of the team and you will get to know his importance

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    Top class, all condition player who complements the rest of the line up perfectly and has a good knack of guiding chases against quality bowling attacks. These are the types of players that win you World Cups (think Smith in 2015). Can't simply have an XI of shot players.

    The Paul Scholes, Andrea Pirlo of this gun English batting line up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Take him out of the team and you will get to know his importance
    Go ahead. The game's 50 overs and they bat extremely deep. It won't make a difference.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    Quality batsman. A better ODI player than test player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Quality batsman. A better ODI player than test player.
    Yeah he is has better temprament in odi and his conversion rate is very good also 25 -10😕 along with 2 not out 90s and one 93

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    He is a lot like Hashim Amla but has shown that he can turn up when the pressure is high. Doesn't bat explosively but goes at a good rate. He epitomizes what a modern day anchor is supposed to be; keep going at a SR of around 80 with good strike rotation and allow the aggressive batsmen around you to bat at 90+ SR. A superior version of Williamson if you will.

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    He quality batsman. I really enjoy watching him bat.

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    Arguably the best ODI batsman ever from England, currently a top 5 in the world (alongside Kohli, Amla, AB and Kane).

    In terms of watching him, he is compact, knows his game very well, knows how to score and when to score and much like Kohli and Kane, he is a very good accumulator but is a bit worse at getting those boundaries. However, he happens to be part of the best current batting line up, so does not often have to score big or hit many boundaries. He may end his career, if he played ODIs until retirement, as the first Englishman to 10000 ODI runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Go ahead. The game's 50 overs and they bat extremely deep. It won't make a difference.
    Whom would you replace him with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Whom would you replace him with?
    Another explosive player. Probably Billings. I don't have too much knowledge of your domestic players. With the lineup you guys have, there's no need to slow down and build an innings. Just keep murdering the opposition.


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    He's a great player. I wish Babar Azam could play his role but as we saw in NZ, Azam may just be a FTB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    One dimensional and limits his team's potential.
    What's so one dimensional about these stats below?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Averages 71 in last 3 years at sr of 93
    Avg in succesful chases is 89 3rd best of all time

  28. #28
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    He is like Dravid, the supporting character to main hero, and these 2nd hero's are often underrated (not in Root case). The main hero often changes but the 2nd hero remain most of the time.


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  29. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanAndGreen View Post
    Top class, all condition player who complements the rest of the line up perfectly and has a good knack of guiding chases against quality bowling attacks. These are the types of players that win you World Cups (think Smith in 2015). Can't simply have an XI of shot players.

    The Paul Scholes, Andrea Pirlo of this gun English batting line up.
    Oh nice comparison scholes was the focal point of game one of the most talented and most intelligent eng player ever at the same time versatile and highly professional too

    The same can be said to root,a talent such as root’s comes along once every two or three generations
    He has got precocious ability to play great inningses but still a long way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Another explosive player. Probably Billings. I don't have too much knowledge of your domestic players. With the lineup you guys have, there's no need to slow down and build an innings. Just keep murdering the opposition.
    What's the need of 7-8 same kind of players in a line up if everyone's batting style are similar.Sooner or latter some pitches which have demons gonna eat them all and this is where players like root adding power to the lineup

    I don't think anyone will go for a billings or same kind of player to replace a Root

    Root is actually striking almost similar to morgan which is no means slow

  31. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protea Fan View Post
    What's the need of 7-8 same kind of players in a line up if everyone's batting style are similar.Sooner or latter some pitches which have demons gonna eat them all and this is where players like root adding power to the lineup

    I don't think anyone will go for a billings or same kind of player to replace a Root

    Root is actually striking almost similar to morgan which is no means slow
    The two new balls last for 10 overs and they have Bairstow for that.

    Root doesn't have the gears Morgan does. I didn't say Root is slow, just one-dimensional.


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    All formats combined he is the 2nd best of this generation. Often is under rated in ODI's because of other explosive stars in England XI.


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    There is a gulf of difference between Smith and Root as a test batsmen. In odis, Root is better but that doesn't mean much. He is yet to build any legacy in Odis.

    Overall, all formats combined:

    Top5 batsmen post 2000s debutant are

    Sanga
    ABD
    Amla
    Kohli
    Smith

    Others arent at same level as these five.

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    Decent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Another explosive player. Probably Billings. I don't have too much knowledge of your domestic players. With the lineup you guys have, there's no need to slow down and build an innings. Just keep murdering the opposition.

    Ok. Roooooooooot brings another option with his offies though. Played a key role when Plunkett went injured.

    It’s a good batting line that Billings can’t get into

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Ok. Roooooooooot brings another option with his offies though. Played a key role when Plunkett went injured.

    It’s a good batting line that Billings can’t get into
    Samit Patel? A better bowling option and can perhaps play the anchor role too. May just even be more explosive than Root, though definitely less consistent.

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    Root is a fantastic ODI cricketer. Period. The fact that some think he is holding the team back by averaging 50+ at a strike rate of around 90 just goes to show the embarrassment of riches England have in their limited overs batting stocks.

    He is the fulcrum of the ODI batting line up, and possesses the 'in-between' gear that allows him to collect runs at a high SR without taking risk, thus allowing the big hitters in the team to play their natural game around him, propelling England to the mammoth ODI totals we have seen them achieve over the past couple of years.

    In addition to his batting, he has proven on numerous occasions that his off-spin is more than handy. Along with Buttler, he should be the first name on the England ODI teamsheet.

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    In terms of talent I rate him only behind AB.
    He's probably the only player capable of scoring runs everywhere. But he needs to start converting starts. In ODI's he is formidable. Only two or three players are capable of winning matches away from home AB, Amla, (QdK?) Root is one of them.

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    A world class player and seems like ODIs is his strongest format. He will need to maintain this gun form if England are to get into the latter stages of next year’s World Cup.

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    From the players scored over 2000 away runs Joe root's averages close to 60 which is only second to ABD

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    Hashim Amla's second coming.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

  42. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Hashim Amla's second coming.
    He's not going to succumb under pressure

    Played some great knocks in T20 knockouts so can replicate it to WC's

    Matter of time afterall

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    Great stats, but not really convinced he's as good as his average suggests. Haven't seen any noteworthy innings from him really

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    People won't remember a noteworthy innings from a batsman that they dont like. They won't put out the stats or facts. Instead they would resort to the ultimate "evasive argument" ; soft runs. As if those runs were given on a platter by the opponent. Same case with Williamson .

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    One of the best of this generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    People won't remember a noteworthy innings from a batsman that they dont like. They won't put out the stats or facts. Instead they would resort to the ultimate "evasive argument" ; soft runs. As if those runs were given on a platter by the opponent. Same case with Williamson .
    Agree.Some people think that If you haven't performed in World cup knockout then all of your international runs are soft.

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    He has completely lost it. Can't even score in shorter formats anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    He has completely lost it. Can't even score in shorter formats anymore.
    Looks horribly out of form. Can't even score a 50. Needs to be dropped for a while maybe? Seems he needs some time figuring out what's wrong with him.

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    the way he got out today makes me think that he is extremely low on confidence. He better bat at no#4 and overcome the pressure or else he 'll have 2 more horrible games along with the tests.

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    The manner of his dismissals has been disappointing.

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    He's really out of form, loss of confidence and its taking its toll on him. He needs to probably take a break.

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    He was depressed because it's not coming home.


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    Babar is better.

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    Very good player. Just goes with his work and doesn't show off.

    Not a guy to play memorable knocks everytime but always consistent.

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    Out of form right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Babar is better.
    You just cant get baber out of your head.
    All of fab4 is better than baber. Baber is just a glorified minnow basher.
    For a comparison see root and baber perfomance in last nz tour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    You just cant get baber out of your head.
    All of fab4 is better than baber. Baber is just a glorified minnow basher.
    For a comparison see root and baber perfomance in last nz tour
    Would you care comparing the performances for us?

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    Great player who is going through a rough patch. Nothing to worry about, he will be back.

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    Good player in a super flat pitch and nothing bowlers.

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    Good odi player but out of form.

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    England’s best batsman against good bowling. This lineup will be too fragile without him.

    Him returning to form is crucial for England.

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    Decent one. Nothing exceptional. He can't accelerate like virat can, like today he scored century but couldn't able to accelerate not much useful of innings for team he played

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    Played a better inning but could have improved his strike rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dauntless View Post
    Decent one. Nothing exceptional. He can't accelerate like virat can, like today he scored century but couldn't able to accelerate not much useful of innings for team he played
    It was more than useful Without him holding thinga together they wouldnt have got more than 250

    People forget he strike rate is 87 so he is no slouch

    You underestimate how much a glue is needed in any team for others to bat around to post consistent big totals

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    Man I feel old now... a relic if I feel an ODI strike rate of less than hundred is ok. I felt that yesterday with Imam and today with root. I thought thy both played excellent innings but seems most of you guys here disagree..

    I guess the game has changed a lot now

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    He's basically England's Babar Azam. Just England have too many aggressive players around him that makes him look less good than he actually is.

    The weakest batsman (After Moeen) in the line up is probably Morgan but he's captain. And even then Morgan's not bad.

    He's still England's best player against good bowling, and is worth his place in the side.

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    Well played Root. Solid performance, good start to get into the grove of the series.

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    Finally back to form & much needed 100 to regain his confidence.

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    Looks like an excellent innings in the context of this ongoing match.

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    Played an outatanding innings on a dry pitch. He played at a very good sr. Those saying of kohli. Kohli on a similar pitch scored run a ball 160. Joe played at almost the same sr. Moreover he knew about Eng strong lower order so he had to take less risks and play through the innings. His best odi 100 in my view

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